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 [TOPIC] Garmin nuvifone: it's over (10/2010)
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wifi

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Posted - 09 sept. 2009 :  12:01:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been waiting for so long for this phone, and now I'm able to get it through my Malasian friends.
I was always under the impression that it was going to use Google's Android.
As it's using Garmin's own Linux disto, and as it's closed, I'm unfortunately going to say no to it :-(

The G60 price is in Malasia (without a provider and unlocked) is +/-350 euro
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Dewi

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Posted - 29 sept. 2009 :  01:41:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Engadget has a leaked FAQ post that indicates the G60 will launch with AT&T in the US on October 4th:
- $300 on a $30/month data plan, 2 year contract
- an extra $6/month for "premium" services (i.e. connected traffic, etc.)
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gpspassion

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Posted - 29 sept. 2009 :  02:03:24  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting, looks like a money guzzler...they are due to be launched in Europe on October 8th. I played with one recently, can't say I was really impressed, nice device for sure, but I'll stick to my iPhone and to my AIO(s) if I'm leaving for a long drive.

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Boyd

USA
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Posted - 30 sept. 2009 :  23:46:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dewi

Engadget has a leaked FAQ post that indicates the G60 will launch with AT&T in the US on October 4th


More than just a "leak" Garmin officially announced it on their website yesterday as well:

http://garmin.blogs.com/pr/2009/09/att-and-garmin-announce-a-new-mobile-navigation-era-with-nuvifone-the-navigation-phone.html?activeBranchId=newsroom

quote:
DALLAS and OLATHE, September 29, 2009 — AT&T* and Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN) today announced the Garmin nüvifone G60 will be available beginning October 4 only for AT&T customers in the U.S. in AT&T stores and online at www.wireless.att.com.


http://www8.garmin.com/nuvifone/

But it is curious - there are multiple links there to AT&T for more info. But when you go to AT&T's site, there is nothing about the Nuvifone. It is not even listed on their smartphone page. Perhaps a bunch of links will appear on October 4.

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/pda-phones-smartphones.jsp

Looks like the Nuvifone is arriving with a whimper instead of a bang.
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Jim1348

USA
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Posted - 03 oct. 2009 :  05:56:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I stopped by my local AT&T store this evening and tried the Garmin Nuvifone G60. I liked what I saw, but it does seem to be overpriced compared to other devices available. I will wait and buy one used eventually.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 03 oct. 2009 :  12:05:41  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What other devices were you comparing it to, what is their price ?

But yes, neat little device with a good browser, but the screen is quite a bit smaller than on my iPhone, I have pictures somewhere, let's see...actually the screen in itself doesn't seem to be that much smaller, but it's not flush with the case :




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gpspassion

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Posted - 05 oct. 2009 :  10:58:11  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nuvifone unboxing video here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igkr0bT7Cew

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gpspassion

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Posted - 05 oct. 2009 :  22:11:26  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
PC Magazine didn't like it : http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353744,00.asp : 2/5 !

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Jim1348

USA
518 Posts

Posted - 06 oct. 2009 :  02:12:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It actually looks like Garmin Mobile XT may be more feature rich as far as GPS functionality goes. For example, it doesn't look like the Nuvifone will do multiple destination routing.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 07 oct. 2009 :  01:44:20  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not the most user-friendly feature so I wouldn't be surprised if it had been nixed.

An even worse review for the G60 than PC Magazine's : http://gizmodo.com/5374720/garmin-nuvifone-g60-gps-phone-review-do-not-buy

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daveo

USA
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Posted - 07 oct. 2009 :  18:24:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am sorry they launched this with ATT. With iPhone's guzzling the bandwidth on the 3G network, I would have hoped they would have launched with T-Mobile. To be honest, I do want my next smartphone to have a GPS so I can find things using search engines linked to location, but not as my navigation device, although it would have been nice when I forgot the exact location of the parking lot I left my care in while in downtown Chicago (I did remember the hotel next to the lot).

Nuvi 680 with MSNdirect -- Nuvi 350 & GTM 11
Nuvi 755t with MSN
Nuvi 1690
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Jim1348

USA
518 Posts

Posted - 07 oct. 2009 :  22:04:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will probably get one eventually, after it has been out for a while. I would probably buy it used and then get it unlocked and insert my T-Mobile SIM card. It will be interesting to see how well it works with T-Mobile.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 07 oct. 2009 :  22:45:19  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@daveo - yes, that's pretty much how I use my iPhone, GPS for LBS (position in Google Maps, picture geocoding, live tracking for relatives when I'm on the road, etc...) and for guidance only if I've forgotten one of my AIOs (happened to me once!).

As I wrote in the news item on the portal http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/news.asp?id=69 when the nuvifone was announced the iPhone had no GPS and no 3G and no Appstore (or barely), how things have changed!

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blane

USA
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Posted - 08 oct. 2009 :  19:57:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
David Pogue, the Technology writer of the New York Times, gave it a terrible review in the October 8, 2009 paper.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/08/technology/personaltech/08pogue.html?_r=1&ref=business

Edited by - blane on 08 oct. 2009 20:03:30
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gpspassion

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Posted - 08 oct. 2009 :  20:17:44  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes it seems like Garmin are paying a steep price for being 21 months late, after spending quite a bit of time with the nuvifone today at the official European launch I'm beginning to think it's not quite fair. That review is certainly well written, but frankly the "if it had had its debut in 1999" comment is totally uncalled for, had the nuvifone been available in 01/2008 when the the iPhone had no GPS, no 3G and no Appstore, everyone would have been all over it.

My Specific comments :

1. The screen : yes, not capacitive, but for a GPS a matte finish is better and I tried it next to my iPhone and frankly it reacts almost just as well.

2. Yes, it's not a very clever Smartphone, and Garmin don't call it a Smartphone by the way, how big of a problem is that? My iPhone's email client annoys me so much, I read and reply to email using http://mail2web.com/pda/ - the nuvifone will do that too.

3. Web browsing : yes you can't double-tap to zoom, ok so you have to click on +/- and then scroll, I can live with that, especially since it renders www.GpsPasSion.com very well ;-)

4. Price : yes, it's expensive and the extra monthly subscription is a bummer, the optional $25 car charger is a huge mistake (courtesy of AT&T is seems as it's bundled in Europe where it's sold as a standalone device for now).

5. The NYTimes review very justly talks about the stellar integration of GPS navigation. On all existing Smartphones it's an afterthought, especially on the iPhone, where the apps are expensive, have no connected services, and you need to buy a powered mount.

-> I wrote just above that I only consider using my iPhone as GPS guide as a backup, but if I owned a nuvifone I don't think I would have a problem using it as my main GPS.

-> To me the biggest problem is battery life, as on all smartphones. I need a phone I can rely on at all times, not a Smartphone that dies after two hours of (take your pick) 3G/WiFi/GPS. This is unacceptable to me and not very far from a "fraud", so I have an iPhone for "play" and an HTC Touch Dual as an advanced phone. Can't see the nuvifone replacing it with its 1200mAh battery that won't do any better than my iPhone if I walk around London and use it as a guide. The nuvi 255 did the job last year and when the batteries ran out, I could still call my wife and meet up.

@Jim1348 - I checked and the multiple destination routing is indeed available (one of the last icons in "where to") and also offer stop optimization.

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