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 [TOPIC] ALK CoPilot Live Premium for Android
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dahauss

USA
107 Posts

Posted - 04 août 2011 :  15:25:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The latest version of NAVIGON is nice but its missong things like a nice detailed MAP with POI display, POI alerts etc.

as far as the audio on copilot being cut off, I have the same issue when using bluetooth AND I am told that they are working with someone to fix this issue..

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igalan

Spain
358 Posts

Posted - 04 août 2011 :  16:32:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice to hear, but it shouldn't be too difficult to get right at first try; I have no issue with this when using Navigon or Google Navigation.

Navigon is missing too many features on Android. I first used Navigon on a PocketPC, quite a few years ago. Today's Navigon has even less features, although I recognize that routing is a bit more flexible, at least it usually will give you two to three different choices. I've heard that the iOS version of Navigon is much better, but no way I'm going to carry my iPad (which is the only iOS device that I have) for GPS Navigation; anyway it's not the 3G version, so no GPS on board and no way to connect to a Blutooth GPS.

BTW a new version of CoPilot Premium was released a couple of days ago, but I haven't had time to try it.

Samsung Galaxy SIII | TomTom Carminat
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dahauss

USA
107 Posts

Posted - 04 août 2011 :  16:47:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you played with the LATEST RELEASE of NAVIGON? I too said it was missing a LOT of features UNTIL I got the updated version about a month or so ago....

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jeffcarp94

USA
117 Posts

Posted - 04 août 2011 :  16:53:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CoPilot doesn't use Navteq maps. They use their own. That is the biggest problem with their product. Their maps are terrible. Spend some time reading customer comments in the Android Market and Apple App Store and it is a broken record: "bad maps." It really is too bad that they do this. I've always said that I think their UI is one of the best around. But their maps are just ridiculous.

Nav experience: Garmin SP III, SP 2710, SP 2730, Garmin i5, Garmin c330, Garmin 760, Garmin 885T, Dash Navigation, TeleNav for Sprint, TomTom 740 Live, CoPilot Live v8, Navigon for Android, Navigon for iPad, Google Navigation, Waze, Garmin Nuvi 3490LMT, Garmin 3590LMT, TomTom for Android, Rand McNally 7725LM
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dahauss

USA
107 Posts

Posted - 04 août 2011 :  16:57:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually in my area, the maps from copilot are pretty good.... what dont you like about them? take a look at the navigon map... it might be OK from the standpoint of what map company it uses but when you try to look at the map while driving, you cant see anything.. very low detail. I know that wasnt what you were referring to but I thought I would throw that out too..

If someone would take the best features of navigon, copilot, waze and google navigation and put it into one GREAT program, it would be awesome.. Im not a programmer that can program android or IOS apps, but I could help get this project going with others if we wanted to create a great app... not sure how though...
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jeffcarp94

USA
117 Posts

Posted - 04 août 2011 :  17:13:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The problems that I have with the maps, when compared to competitors, is the lack of inclusion of recent (i.e., last 2 - 3 years) construction and just plain errors that shouldn't be there. I understand that they have the MapSure program and promise to add stuff. But I just am not going to spend much time fixing ALK's maps. If I spend any time fixing maps, which I do, it will be Google Map Maker, where I know there are millions of other people doing the same thing. I see no real point in contributing to fixing maps of a rather small player like ALK when I know there are few other people doing it also.

I used CoPilot v8 on a trip from Iowa to Florida last summer. I have an app on my phone that allows me to record the lat/lon of map errors and writes that lat/lon to a text file. It also opens the microphone on my phone for 15 seconds and allows me to record an explanation of the error. From Iowa to Florida I encountered 19 map errors in CoPilot v8. These were not little side streets. These were highway and even freeway errors. Bad errors like wrong interstate directions (saying to go the correct way, but calling it northbound when it is southbound, etc.) On the trip back, I used Garmin. I had 2 errors - and they were do to a recent freeway mile marker update.

The other problem that I had with CoPilot is what I observed to be its inability to differentiate between a highway in a rural and urban setting. I like to drive rural highways because we often travel in an RV. I have my preferences and speed settings set as I like them. But CoPilot will throw me straight through an urban highway that is technically only a highway in name only. In reality, it is a major city street complete with stoplights and traffic. It doesn't know the difference between that and an lonely highway in the middle of the country.

Nav experience: Garmin SP III, SP 2710, SP 2730, Garmin i5, Garmin c330, Garmin 760, Garmin 885T, Dash Navigation, TeleNav for Sprint, TomTom 740 Live, CoPilot Live v8, Navigon for Android, Navigon for iPad, Google Navigation, Waze, Garmin Nuvi 3490LMT, Garmin 3590LMT, TomTom for Android, Rand McNally 7725LM
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igalan

Spain
358 Posts

Posted - 04 août 2011 :  17:22:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have Navigon 3.6.2 (Iberia), which is the latest available on the Android Market. But I haven't used it much, so maybe you're right and Navigon has finally brought it to feature parity. This summer I shall have some time to test it properly. What I didn't like is that favorites are stored o a non user accessible are, so when I moved form a Nexus One to my current device, my favorites where stuck in the old device (I don't want to root or change the ROM in order to do something that should be standard).

About CoPilot, I am pretty sure it's got Navteq maps. They are virtually the same as the one Navigon has. That is for Spain, Portugal and Andorra (why they never mention Andorra?). On Europe Navteq maps are reasonably good, and don't make the mistake of having roads that are planned but not yet built, unlike Teleatlas does.

Samsung Galaxy SIII | TomTom Carminat
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gpspassion

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Posted - 08 sept. 2011 :  18:23:16  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, ALK use Navteq maps in Europe and their own maps in the USA, that's been a sore point with US users since...2001, guess they won't be changing that now. On the plus side it lets them sell the USA app significantly cheaper.

Drove 7,005 miles coast to coast this summer mostly relying on my Garmin nuvi 3790T and Google Maps Navigation. At first I did try running CoPilot too but I gave up as I ran into several map errors, many missing speed limits and plain wrong ETA (like GMN). You can modify the speeds by type of road and I was able to get a decent ETA but these tweaks didn't work the next day unfortunately.

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Jim1348

USA
518 Posts

Posted - 28 déc. 2011 :  08:28:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I finally bought a Motorola Defy phone recently and I also downloaded CoPilot onto it. I will be reading through the previous posts here. Feel free to pass along any suggestions in the meantime.
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Yuma

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 29 déc. 2011 :  02:09:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm new to the Android arena, having just got an Android Tablet (Asus Transformer TF-101) two weeks ago.
I downloaded CoPilot Live Standard and the maps seem OK for my local area, no worse then Garmin. (And for less then $3.00)
I do not use turn by turn or speed limit stuff (I have my eyes for that )
And the fact that I do not need to be on the net makes it all the better.

Yuma,

In Arizona, U.S.A.
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HankB

USA
53 Posts

Posted - 05 juin 2012 :  14:54:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm evaluating copilot live v9 on my Droid X at the moment (the free version.) I see that it has the capacity to save routes if I upgrade to the paid version. Does anyone know if the paid version also supports the import of routes from a file? For example could it import a route saved from Google Maps (saved as .KML and converted to GPX or similar?) There is a post on this page that mentions this but provides insufficient detail for me to evaluate.

thanks,
hank
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