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gpspassion
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 Posted - 22 sept. 2008 : 17:56:56
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| Many nüvi models have now been receiving "non-downgradable" updates with version jumps (v4xx for the 7xx, v6xx for the 3xx, v5xx for the 2xx), and I'm sensing that his has something to do with the implementation of the "first fix date" of the nüMaps guarantee. As a consequence, this is probably good news for people who haven't registered their nüvi yet and who be entitled to new maps as their "first fix date" will have to be "later" than the software update... |
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popej
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Posted - 22 sept. 2008 : 18:02:57
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And destroying Bluetooth is a penality for being to smart? ;-)
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gpspassion
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Posted - 22 sept. 2008 : 18:09:45
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| Sorry I'm not seeing how bluetooth comes into play here? Are you saying you can downgrade and lose Bluetooth? Doesn't sound like a good idea for the average user and best left to the topics dedicated to these updates ;-) |
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popej
Poland
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Posted - 22 sept. 2008 : 18:43:52
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You have quite a long thread about it, see post by poppap and here explanation from Garmin, post by Pling73.
[ED - Direct links inserted] |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 22 sept. 2008 : 18:53:56
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| Right, like I said let's use these topics to discuss specific models, Garmin clearly don't want the average user to be able to go back to a previous version as had always been possible, my guess is that it's nüMaps related, not that it really matters at the end of the day ;-) |
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gatorguy
USA
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Posted - 22 sept. 2008 : 21:24:29
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| Altho it could also be traffic related. |
Garmin 1695 / 760 / 255 / Navigon for Android / Navigon 8100T / Garmin Dakota 10 / Geomate |
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jotne
Norway
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Posted - 23 sept. 2008 : 19:56:12
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@gpspassion - See what Garmin do write in the latest post to me.
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"Firstly I would like to mention that we have ALWAYS recorded first fix date and we can view this on all of the Nüvi series, this is not a new feature. You should be aware that information written on forums is not always accurate and a lot of the time is derived from people assumptions or from rumours.
Getting back to the issue,I have explained to you the reasons for not being able to back date.
There may be possibility to revert again in the future, but not to below 4.10 and not until we have correct working versions. All software that is updated is to resolve issues with previous versions and to create or increase compatibility with other Nüvi features, it makes no sense to have software available that has had previous issues or does not support the units features.
Also we have added new features that do not work on older versions of
software, such as support for bluetooth, if you were to be able to back date you would no longer be able to use bluetooth on your unit for example, and then we would have people calling to complain about that.
We do appreciate all our customers feedback, and I can completely
understand why you are frustrated about this situation. However all I am asking is for you to be patient while we correct the errors to fix the problems you are having with your GPS so that you do not have the problems again." |
Previously owned : GPS "eTrex Yellow" "GPSmap 76S" "GPSMap 60CS" "GPSMAP 60CSx" "Nüvi 660"
Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300" |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 24 sept. 2008 : 02:06:29
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| Interesting...he won't change his story, especially given his "tone" and quick dismissal of information found in forums, and at the end of the day it doesn't really matter, but I'll stick to my "theory" based on the various "coincidences" ;-) By the way you should post this in the "v4.10 update" thread. |
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hpatlik
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Posted - 29 sept. 2008 : 06:20:06
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If Garmin was smart, they would have had a warning telling users that by installing the appropiate version (v4xx for the 7xx, v6xx for the 3xx, v5xx for the 2xx) will not allow downgrading to previous versions. They should also have indicated in more detail was the upgrade included, especially if it included their NuMaps feature. Then users could decide if they want the this latest version.
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Oregonian2
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Posted - 29 sept. 2008 : 08:32:10
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| Yes, that would be a good idea. My Archos 605 wifi unit has a prominent statement about upgrades not being reversible and although not thrilled with it, there's little grumbling about not being able to do so when it was known by everyone ahead of time. |
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poppap
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Posted - 02 oct. 2008 : 11:45:20
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Regarding the version jumps on most units.
If you look closely in GarminDevice.xml you'll see that there is an additional section called "Ifix" at the bottom, it seems to be the seconds from 1 January 1990. (to convert use http://www.epochconverter.com/ just need to assume that 1988 is 2008
because epoch is seconds since 01 Jan 1970)
I've just got a replacement 760 from garmin.
My old unit arrived Garmin for RMA on 03 Sep 2008
The Ifix on the replacement unit that I received on 15 Sep 2008 is
"589490658" which translates to 05 Sep 2008 19:24:18 GMT
It kinda make sense but I'm still not sure because this date is when
the unit is still at garmin factory, Not my first fix.
Have to see more data from some other users. |
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SergZak
USA
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Posted - 02 oct. 2008 : 12:20:16
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quote:
Originally posted by poppap
"589490658" which translates to Mon, 05 Sep 2008 19:24:18 GMT
What formula are you using for this translation?
I received my new unit from Garmin on Fri Sep 26 2008 & my first fix is listed by Garmin as being Sat Sep 27 2008. My Ifix is listed as 591392195. |
nüvi 3490LMT, nüvi 3790LMT, nüvi 765T, nüvi 855, nüvi 760, nüvi 750 |
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poppap
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Posted - 02 oct. 2008 : 12:41:53
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With 591392195 it's converted to 27 Sep 2008 19:36:35 GMT
I use http://www.epochconverter.com/
just need to assume that 1988 is 2008
because epoch is seconds since 01 Jan 1970 |
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SergZak
USA
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Posted - 02 oct. 2008 : 12:56:27
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So it seems (at least in my case) that your theory is correct about the Ifix value since it coincides very closely with what Garmin list (on myGarmin account) as being my first fix.
Thanks for the link to the Epoch Converter. |
nüvi 3490LMT, nüvi 3790LMT, nüvi 765T, nüvi 855, nüvi 760, nüvi 750 |
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