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 [TOPIC] Garmin® ecoRoute™ hd via OBD II - Reviews
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semka

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Posted - 02 juin 2010 :  22:47:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Garmin ecoRoute HD is finally shipping...
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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 05 juil. 2010 :  07:01:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are a few sample screen shots taken during a ~450 mile trip I did today.

ecoRoute HD:


Expanded Speedometer:


Fuel efficiency:


I'm still figuring out both the 1690 and the ecoRoute HD, but thus far, I am favorably impressed.

continued : Can someone explain the Fuel Economy operation to me? After installing the ecoRoute HD and pairing it with the 1690 (had about 40 miles or so on a full tank of gas), I took the trip mentioned above. During that tank of gas, the Fuel Economy screen would never report my current mpg and down where the graph is located, it would just say calibrating.

Only after refueling (and entering the data in the At the Pump section) did the Fuel Economy screen began reporting current mpg. At that point I was also able to change one of the data fields on the nav screen to show instant mpg too (before that, it would only say calibrating).

I don't understand what the system is doing that it needs to have that first fuel up info before it can provide instant mpg data.

-speedy
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gpspassion

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Posted - 05 juil. 2010 :  14:00:57  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It probably just needed a full tank to start doing the math and some self-checking, likely because the remaining gas info data is not available via ODBII, at least as a standard. Garmin told us in May that they are having to stick to the standard ODBII data, they can't leverage proprietary OBDII info.

Thanks for sharing these first screenshots and feedback, any issues hooking up the actual device to your car, what car is it by the way ? Pictures of that would be great ;-)

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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 05 juil. 2010 :  19:27:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No problems hooking up the device in my 2008 Honda Ridgeline... other than the fact that the connecting cable on the ecoRoute HD is pretty short. Installation and pairing were a piece of cake.

I'll cut and paste a msg I posted over on the ridgelineownersclub.com site.

*************** insert msg ***************

I received both the Garmin nuvi 1690 and the ecoRoute HD yesterday. I installed the ecoRoute HD today and paired it to my 1690. I'll post some screen shots later.

Here is the installation. I found the OBD port mounted such that the connector is pointed straight down. The connector on the ecoRoute HD has a short cord (about 6 inches) which made the connecting wire hang down a bit lower than I wanted and restricted my ability to place the device.

I removed the on-board OBD port from the bracket and attached the ecoRoute HD up inside underneath the steering wheel using some zip ties.




Click on the picture for the full size version




When I was installing the unit, I forgot there were built-in slots for the zip ties. But everything is snug and tight and I didn't induce any rattles.

Also, there is an LED on the unit which blinks and has different colors to communicate certain information, I can see this if I look carefully at the opening where the steering wheel column enters the dash... so I don't have to wiggle underneath to look for the info. (just got lucky it worked out that way, to be honest!)

-speedy

Edited by - speedlever on 05 juil. 2010 23:50:05
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gpspassion

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Posted - 06 juil. 2010 :  20:30:45  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for sharing, I resized your pictures and linked to the original size so that the forum page wouldn't be stretched.

Looks like it wasn't too bad to install in your car but maybe it would be a different story in other cars. Does the OBD port provide power to the Ecoroute HD module or does it rely on an internal battery?

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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 06 juil. 2010 :  23:07:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is no mention of an internal battery in any of the documentation I've seen. I assume the device is powered from the OBD port.

What size images do you like posted here? I normally resize to 1024x768 assuming most folks have at least a 17 inch screen. Do you prefer smaller?


-speedy

Edited by - speedlever on 07 juil. 2010 00:41:29
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gpspassion

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Posted - 06 juil. 2010 :  23:28:43  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, 640x480 that way it works for everyone and you can link to larger pics like I did, details in * To Post a Picture or a File in a forum * linked from the section FAQ ;-)

Interesting about the battery, powering by the OBD port seems like the best option. How are you liking the info coming from the module, calibration has stuck since your first fill-up ?

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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 07 juil. 2010 :  00:42:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Snip useless info...

Edit 1: After sitting for most of the next day or so, the next time I tried to use the ecoRoute HD device I found it was not linked to the 1690 any longer. Neither was my BT phone. I had to re-establish connections to both devices for some reason. Garmin says the HD device is supposed to be auto-connecting.

I did a hard reset on my 1690 and reloaded firmware 3.50 just in case I had a problem the first time and will watch to see what happens. I do recall that the 1690 hung on the shut down screen and I worked around it with the power button. Of course it was all new to me, so who knows if I short cut the installation process or something. If I did, hopefully the reinstall will take care of it.

Just to be clear, it was no problem at all to re-setup the connection again... but the point is that it should auto-connect... or at least, that's what I would expect it to do.

Edit 2: a day or so later, the ecoRoute HD is still connecting (as is my BT phone) just fine. Sometimes when I crank up the truck, neither the phone nor the HD device show... but shortly thereafter I see the phone icon pop up and then the HD options show up. Looks like all is working as expected.

Edit 3: All connections continue as expected. I'm now starting to wonder if I was just too impatient and didn't wait for the connections to auto-connect before I started pushing buttons in Edit 1 above. But it connects so quickly now that I'm not sure.

Edit 4: After 2 weeks with the 1690 and ecoRoute HD, I am happy to report that I'm not having any issues at all... other than those induced by operator error. I accidentally turned off the maps playing around with the 1690 and was puzzled for a while as to why I had lost everything but main roads.

I also sometimes forget that I have my phone paired up to the GPS and occasionally try to make a call from the phone and wonder why I'm not hearing much. The BT volume does seem a bit low compared to the navigation volume. I probably should do the tweak to the nav voice and lower her volume a skosh.


-speedy

Edited by - speedlever on 19 juil. 2010 04:19:42
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Kris2005

USA
286 Posts

Posted - 09 juil. 2010 :  15:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ecoroute HD - I though the unit would calculate the most ecofriendly route. It seems to me it just shows data available from OBDII. Most of the data shown on the photos I can see anyway. So what is the point of this device? What am I missing?
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pilotart

USA
115 Posts

Posted - 09 juil. 2010 :  17:50:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A lot of autos don't have enough in the panel for a lot of owners who want to know more. This can replace missing 'gauges' like coolant temperature, voltage, manifold pressure and temperature, etc..Also it can display (and re-set) 'Check Engine' indicator and tell you what the problem was. It reads all of this from your autos 'Computer' or OBD III system that it is plugged into.

I have used a ScanGauge II on my MINI Cooper, that has Tach and an inaccurate speedometer, the OBD information shows (of four switchable to twenty outputs) the missing information, including accurate speed.

It also keeps track of fuel used and fuel remaining far more accurately than the BMW/MINI's on-board 'Computer' display. When you Fill the Tank, it predicts the amount used and if it is off by a tenth, allows a quick calibration to be saved for nexr calculation.


Look just above and behind my Nuvi 755 (no compatible with EcoRoute HD [ed]). See http://www.scangauge.com/ for more details and it looks like the Garmin Tool does all of the above and more, plus it is a better looking display.
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edit:- I did try and try to get the posted photo correct size and clickable for Higher Resolution Version, I can usually do that, but this time I kept getting two photos, or a lot of code in the post, now I see that it is working, so GpsPassion must have fixed it for me.

Sorry to create work and thank you for repairing it.

So, click for High Resolution and you can even read the 14.1 Volt, 0.32 GPH, 6º of Spark Advance and 0 MPH and the white buttons advance each display through all available information and there is a fifth 'more' button that opens a menu.

I'm sure Garmin has a PDF manual for EcoRoute and ScanGauge at my link will also have the manual on PDF to compare, but your display really looks nice.

Art

Garmin GNS530W TAWS&TCAD, Nüvi 755, GPS V, Apollo Precedus, Holux 230, GlobalSat BT359, WxWorx.

Edited by - pilotart on 09 juil. 2010 22:19:32
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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 09 juil. 2010 :  19:26:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I almost missed your SGII. Your Garmin stands out so much the SGII almost disappears.

I wish you had the ability to directly compare the SGII to the ecoRoute HD. I was planning to get the SGII and was waiting on Amazon.com to put it back on sale when I stumbled across the ecoRoute HD device for $130. As I was also in the market for a new GPS to replace my SP2610, the ecoRoute HD seemed a no brainer when paired to a compatible nuvi.

One big plus of the SGII is that you have a separate device and can observe the data without losing your map display. I suppose that could be a negative if you're trying to minimize clutter.

OTOH, the GPS screen display of the OBD data is pretty nice. And you still get voice nav instructions when on the gauge page. But I'm not sure if the ecoRoute HD provides as much data as the SGII does. There's never enough data. ;-)

All-in-all, I'm quite pleased with the performance and operation of the ecoRoute HD device.





-speedy
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Kris2005

USA
286 Posts

Posted - 09 juil. 2010 :  20:17:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, got it. I guess I wil lskip this asmy on-board display has most of the information I require including fuel economy, distance to empty, voltage etc.

Good to know that gadgewt like this one is available though.
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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 19 juil. 2010 :  04:31:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I took the 1690 out of my truck and put it in my wife's Pilot for a 150 mile trip the other day. I missed the ecoRoute HD device. The info on the expanded speedometer was vastly changed plus I lost my gauges and my instant mpg.

I also found the traffic warning to be a bit slow to warn about a traffic situation plus the estimated delay time was very optimistic. I don't think I ever saw anything more than a 3 minute delay posted but we had more like a 15 minute delay.

Here's a shot of the expanded speedometer with and without the ecoRoute HD:

With ecoRoute HD:


Without ecoRoute HD:


-speedy
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gpspassion

93964 Posts

Posted - 19 juil. 2010 :  17:59:04  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting thanks, I didn't realize the "normal" speedometer changed when Ecoroute HD was active too, not just a specific menu.

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Captcaper

USA
376 Posts

Posted - 20 juil. 2010 :  21:59:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got an email from Garmin tech on which gauges might show with my Ford diesel. There wasn't anything new over what I have now in my dash from Ford so I'm going to pass on this one. If I'm going to spend money I'll get a tuner that'll give me all the information with turbo,exhust gas temps,etc.and much more.

Presently owned Dezl 760LMT Montana 600 2460lmt 1490T SP2610 SP2720 GPSMAP 276C GPSMAP 60CS NorthStar 951XD in the boat since 1996.
Previous owned Garmin 48,76cs,210. Nuvi 880,1490T.
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