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 [TOPIC] HP iPaq 310, 3x0 - Reviews - 03/2009 EOL
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earnest

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Posted - 22 févr. 2009 :  13:17:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I want to update my ipaq 316. I downloaded HP iPAQ 316 Travel Companion - Russian (English) Operating System and Map Upgrade. If I replace only \OS and \Bluetooth folders without \NAV because I use other version of Igo shall I miss something with the licenses?

HP Ipaq 316
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johnb

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Posted - 09 mars 2009 :  16:16:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Although it has not been announced officially, it seems as though Naviextras (iGO) is moving towards providing support for the iPAQ 31x. There are reports of being able to buy maps, 3D packs, and speed cameras using the new Toolbox software(the HP Content Manager replacement). No software updates yet.
More information http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1319288

Edited by - johnb on 09 mars 2009 16:24:24
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Sancho1234

Hungary
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Posted - 09 mars 2009 :  16:48:44  Show Profile  Visit Sancho1234's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
NO NEED TO QUOTE A MESSAGE DIRECTLY ABOVE YOURS, MAKES THE FORUMS EASIER TO READ, THANKS ;-) GPSPASSION TEAM
I will ask the hungarian Naviextras support about this question. Ok?


HTC Touch Pro2, HTC Kaiser TyTN II, TomTom Navigator 6, Nav N Go iGO 8.0, GIS Russa, HP iPAQ 316, HP iPAQ H3970, Garmin Nüvi 205, Garmin Oregon 400t, ASUS EeePC 901 XP, Leadtek BT GPS 9537, Motorola F3

blog.sancho.hu | igo.lap.hu | garmin.lap.hu | tmc.lap.hu
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johnb

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Posted - 09 mars 2009 :  18:13:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It has already been asked - see the answer dated 4 February 2009 on iPAQ 31x thread on naviextras.com "I have heard some promising news about some HP devices, but I do not know any details yet."

I don't think there will be any more news until the software for the iPAQ 31x is available to purchase.


Edited by - johnb on 09 mars 2009 18:15:49
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Sancho1234

Hungary
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Posted - 09 mars 2009 :  20:59:30  Show Profile  Visit Sancho1234's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
NO NEED TO QUOTE A MESSAGE DIRECTLY ABOVE YOURS, MAKES THE FORUMS EASIER TO READ, THANKS ;-) GPSPASSION TEAM
http://translate.google.com/translate?client=tmpg&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsanchoblogja.blogspot.com%2F&langpair=hu|en

You can buy a map, but there is no software update.

The Naviextras Toolbox is not an official function, but not warez. HP did not. The NNG secret to help the users.


HTC Touch Pro2, HTC Kaiser TyTN II, TomTom Navigator 6, Nav N Go iGO 8.0, GIS Russa, HP iPAQ 316, HP iPAQ H3970, Garmin Nüvi 205, Garmin Oregon 400t, ASUS EeePC 901 XP, Leadtek BT GPS 9537, Motorola F3

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psycogeek

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Posted - 13 mars 2009 :  07:54:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the news about possible map updates, that is just what i wanted, updates to the original.
I am going to try and take a crack at it
Pierre gave the best ENGLISH description of what to expect, and what occurs, there.
http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1321000
i just hope it goes at least as well for me.
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johnb

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Posted - 13 mars 2009 :  09:33:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
NO NEED TO QUOTE A MESSAGE DIRECTLY ABOVE YOURS, MAKES THE FORUMS EASIER TO READ, THANKS ;-) GPSPASSION TEAM
But are you aware of the possible release of iGO v8 R3 in the near future? Hopefully it will be available for purchase for iPAQ 31x users using the Toolbox.

The potential problem is v8 R3 cannot use the maps for which are used by the current iPAQ iGO 31x v8 R1 software so it will be bundled with new maps. See also
http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1319288
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psycogeek

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Posted - 13 mars 2009 :  09:36:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and arent there also issues with eventually running out of free space available on the IPAQ 2Gig internal card too?
because with ALL usa and canada maps, its some 1.4G (minus the software there) already, then all the extra junk that is in the folder, plus my junk that i tossed in there.
I saw some maps for another software, and they were Way HUGE, no way would they fit in the original hole, without tossing something.

right now i am hoping to just get a few missing places cleaned up on the maps that i have now, so i am not obsoleted so quickly.

i HOPE if they do another upgrade, there will be the usual discount for people already sucked dry for other things :-) I think if they offer the NEXT software, it could be a little more changes and mabey kludgey to keep all the HP junk the same way it is TOO. at the least they are going to have to work for that one :-)

so far it was pretty cool, i was able to ONLY update the USA maps at a reduction (vrses canada too) and the price was less than $100, close enough for me.

the other choices i saw there at NAVnGo (or whatever) were stuffing me with some cruddy SDcard that i was condemed to, YUK, i hope that isnt the next "upgrade" because that will be a huge step backwards.

continued :
so far here is what i learned. (most has already been said)

Register at naviextras https://www.naviextras.com/shop/portal/
your just becomming a User there, like for the forum and all. e-mail confirm , and log in
the next thing in your face is the Download for the naviextras toolbox (7.5megs). it doesnt use MSes stupid installer, so that was a really clean easy install.

Run the program, which allows you to backup your original, using backup&restore. to simplify things i just copy the whole IPAQ disk myself, no use guessing what that thing is gonna do, or where i put stuff.

go to MyUpdates, and select the stuff there you want.
the First thing i did was a TEST, to insure that things would go as planned. i downloaded the Free SpeedCam update.
after a download in the upper right corner is a "instalation wizard" and you run it and it just installs the stuff.
so far i wasnt out a penny testing if this process was going to work with all aspects of my system.

knowing that worked, i then proceeded to make a purchace, there is no PAYPAL that i saw, it used credit card stuff.

after the purchace i HAD TO CLOSE THE PROGRAM, this was probably the only point of confusion.
Status is Shown in the bottom left corner , it told there that i had to restart the toolbox.

once i re-ran the program, it showed the updates available is the "My Updates" section.
after fumbling a bit around there, somehow the 2 updates i purchaced poped to the top, with a download button.
punched both download buttons , for parrellel download of the purchaced items.
3hours download on superfast cable broadband, 1.1G of data.

after download, then i run the "instalation wizard" again, and it just plopped the files on my HP showing a progress bar the whole time. mabey took 15-20min.

right after i was done using the program, i lost connection ability to my various ports, requring a restart of my BigPc. and now the HP is in a reboot loop reboot right after the nav software completly loads up. (probably some changes i had in there)
FIXED, this was because i had pulled the games Folder before the update, poor thing, got all flustered :-)

now i will backup the entire disk,just like before manually.

a check of the files, shows many states have added sizes, and a new "waters" file showed up. Ex california has an added ~300k of data

NOTES: it was indicating how large my update would be and how much space i had available, it displayed that my update is bigger than my space available (obviously) i figured it would be overwriting the old maps, so i did not worry about the size issues it displayed, but i DID move out my Games folder and other stuff that I had placed in the IPAQ partition, to insure a smooth flow, without any overruns on size. after the update i tossed my junk back in.

This version of naviextras does not support the activesync connection protocol (it tells me). I already had mine set for Mass storage, as i wasnt going to wait for activesyncs slower transfer.

more notes:
a Licence file was backed up in the folder i selected for backup (backup & restore section) so the location for backup could be important even if you dont use it for backup

did it work? YES

Edited by - psycogeek on 13 mars 2009 14:41:07
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gpspassion

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Posted - 13 mars 2009 :  11:30:25  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting and which map version did that upgrade you to?

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johnb

29 Posts

Posted - 13 mars 2009 :  12:14:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hope it works. As the iPAQ 31x isn't yet on the list of supported devices they are unlikely to give you your money back if it doesn't work.
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psycogeek

232 Posts

Posted - 13 mars 2009 :  12:20:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gpspassion

Interesting and which map version did that upgrade you to?

2008.10 teleatlas still.
(probably only 2 years old maps now :-)
I go for a drive now and see if my missing places are there.

Edited by - psycogeek on 13 mars 2009 12:23:24
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gpspassion

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Posted - 13 mars 2009 :  12:30:21  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hard to comment on their actual overall "quality" but these are the latest and greatest -> http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/news.asp?id=119

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psycogeek

232 Posts

Posted - 13 mars 2009 :  12:34:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by johnb

Hope it works. As the iPAQ 31x isn't yet on the list of supported devices they are unlikely to give you your money back if it doesn't work.

Well sombody had to try it, and because i am using the old original software, and would gladly PAY for a legally licenced update of the maps, i took one for the team :-)
thanks to your links and sancho's, i was able to get enough info to have a fair idea of my level of sucess.

Edited by - psycogeek on 13 mars 2009 19:57:19
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psycogeek

232 Posts

Posted - 13 mars 2009 :  14:40:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Worked
i checked 2 places , by driving over them, that the old maps had completely wrong, that changed 2 years ago, and they were correct this time.
then i scrolled about america a bit to insure that the rest of the maps actually exist, and as far as i can tell they are intact.

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johnb

29 Posts

Posted - 24 mars 2009 :  10:37:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Additional maps.

If you copy your map and other related data to the SD card you can install new maps on the iPAQ main memory from naviextras using the Toolbox and (since presumably the licences are still in the main memory) the software will search and use maps in the main memory and on the SD

see the post by Brent Brownfield Mar 23, 2009 23:44:51 GMT at http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1321000
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