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no clue
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 Posted - 09 sept. 2007 : 03:36:40
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what's the different between 310 and 314? And yes, looks like they are ready?
Any brave soul diggin in first? ( I haven't save enough for it yet :( ) |
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JohnCougar
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Posted - 09 sept. 2007 : 04:10:22
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| I think 314 is European model. No feature difference, I believe. |
IGO8... IS GREAT! |
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bokkie
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Posted - 09 sept. 2007 : 12:47:06
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| From my own experience of HP PDA's I'd exercise caution. I used to use the Garmin GPS10 on my HP4700. To be honest, I found that with it mounted in the car it was impossible to view screen in bright or sunny conditions, somthing my Nuvi 660 never suffers from. Unless HP have done something to boost the brightness of the screen I can't see myself looking in the HP direction ever again. Have they improved the screen brightness and contrast since then? |
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MichaelLegner
Sweden
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Posted - 09 sept. 2007 : 16:35:36
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| Well, can you really compare a several years old PDA to a new car GPS? I don't think so. The HP4700 wasn't even made for in-car use. |
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JohnCougar
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Posted - 09 sept. 2007 : 17:02:49
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| Bokkie, this is a PNA with the HIGHEST resolution of any PNA to date (800X480). That's better than DVD resolution and far better than that of the Nuvi 660 |
IGO8... IS GREAT! |
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bokkie
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Posted - 09 sept. 2007 : 23:08:45
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That may be so and that's commendable indeed but 800x480 is no good to me unless it has exceptional brightness so that it can be readily seen in bright conditions. I think the screenshot presents the device in a non-typical usage scenario.
When you say, it's a PNA does it suffer from software bloat like my HX4700 suffered from? That is, I had to drill down 3,000 menu levels to enable bluetooth, and then down 1,500 menu levels to activate it and then another 300 levels to get to the application, which incidentally, was not too good anyway. In other words, the HP PDA solution was not user friendly and too much of MS operating system got in the way of what could have been a very good application. Except of course, the lousy screen contrast the 4700 suffered from.
I'm looking at the Navigon 7100 as next personal device, but this HP one has potential if the screen contrast and ease of use at least match the ease of use and contrast I get from my 660.
MichaelLegner: I agree with you completely that the 4700 is not an in-car designed from the ground up GPS device. But is the HP PNA such a beast or at best a bastardised device using a pick-and-mix software solution? After all, HP have never had GPS in the front of their product line so I still suffer from the PDA paradigm and that's all I have to relate to. |
Edited by - bokkie on 09 sept. 2007 23:12:13 |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 09 sept. 2007 : 23:17:26
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| No, based on all available information, the iPaq 300 is in no way an "adapted" Windows Mobile PDA, it is WinCE based device in the vein of those released by Mio, Navman, Navigon, Sony, Becker, etc...they first appeared at the end of 2004 and I had written an article about them here http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=147 . Interestingly enough you'll see that ever since they came out, people have been finding ways to add back software that was present in PDAs ;-) |
Discounts and Assistance/Réductions et Assistance (Club GpsPasSion) / Où commencer? |
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SteveG14
USA
51 Posts |
Posted - 09 sept. 2007 : 23:31:07
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features I like:
large high resolution screen viewable at wide angles
volume wheel on side of case
user replaceable battery
ample internal memory
high powered processor
updated window c/e (although that could still possible crash/lock up)
noise cancellation microphone
music play--(doesnt mention mp3 though)
Comes with ac charger, case, usb cable etc--everything you need unlike some gps units from other manufacturers
HP support--1 year parts and labor---HP support is generally far superior to other computer makers so i would expect that to carry over to the gps products
large speakers--hopefully sound is clear
price is right
dislike:
will use Tele Atlas mapping
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070905/new039.html?.v=20
can't wait to see professional reviews from sites like gps magazine
features not mentioned in video which I hope it has:
multiple routing choices including shortest, fastest, mostly hways, least use of hways, toll roads yes/no choice
multiple destination optimization
route segment deletion ability
distance to destination on main map screen |
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Edited by - SteveG14 on 10 sept. 2007 00:00:10 |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 09 sept. 2007 : 23:45:20
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[OT-ON] Actually you'll probably be better off reading user (I include mysefl as a user) feedback in the forums to get the full picture even if it requires a bit of work ;-)
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I hadn't spotted the "noise cancellation microphone", wonder if that's something new or a feature other systems are not advertising, there has to be some noise cancellation going on for the current Bluetooth kits to work.
I hope the new iGO v8 interface and map rendering are more streamlined, while iGO is very impressive at first - I felt compelled to dub it "liquid navigation" when I first saw it in early 2006 - and the 3D buildings are going to reinforce that, I find it less precise when it comes to giving directions than what Garmin, Navigon and even more so TomTom offer.
Here is gallery with many screenshots of iGo v8 -> >> LINK << |
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AKM74
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gpspassion
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Posted - 10 sept. 2007 : 00:59:30
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| Actually it seems like the manual was done with the current version of iGO, i.e. iGO 2006 but it is shipping with v2008...this is going to be confusing, but it's not the first time I see this type of last minute switch ;-) |
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SteveG14
USA
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Posted - 10 sept. 2007 : 01:07:19
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I wonder why they decided on using Tele Atlas maps--probably to save $$$. That is one drawback I see compared to Garmin or Magellan.
I just bought a nuvi 350 a few days ago as a gift. I have 30 days to return it. This HP unit would have to be a major step up with things like route segment deletion, multiple route optimization, equivalent or better routing engine for me to pay $100 to move to the HP unit. Perhaps within a short time you will find it at a discount like all other gps units. But it sure looks like an innovative gps. We shall see. |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 10 sept. 2007 : 01:20:38
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I think the TeleAtlas maps come with the iGo/NavNgo software, and I agree that in the US the Navteq maps are better overall, get the full story here though.
Route planning is indeed much more advanced in the iGo software compared to Garmin, but it isn't all that usable in the current version, particularly the segment avoidance that require 3 or 4 clicks to get to. Multiple stop optimization works well though. |
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JohnCougar
172 Posts |
Posted - 10 sept. 2007 : 02:30:58
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| I paused the video on one of the navigation menus and I did see an icon for a track log. That's promising... |
IGO8... IS GREAT! |
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SteveG14
USA
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Posted - 10 sept. 2007 : 03:41:05
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quote:
Originally posted by no clue
@gpspassion;
I see~ thanks for the info. :)
Titan certainly looks sweet w/ its 40-channel GPS performance. ( only wish it isn't "mio" UI ) Now I am saving money to jump on this iPaq when it become available.
As Atlas-II performance, I was extremely surprise w/ HK 500. Last night, I took it to the same route as my previous Bravo vs SiRF on Nuvi test. HK 500 reroute me almost immediately when I missed a turn and know I was on carpool lane on multi-lane exit.
( this is not HK review, just that I am confident w/ Centrality :) )
not everyone is happy with the HK500. Lockup problems and poor route choices were among some of the complaints. Satellite pickup sounds similar to the Garmin---sometimes several minutes from a cold start.
On paper, first impression looks good for the HP. The proof will be in the final user evaluations.
For now I'm hanging on to my dependable nuvi 350. It's not perfect but has lots of plusses and has very good Garmin support and warranty. I bought the 3 year Mack warranty as it was only $17 extra. It's has lots of exclusions however so who knows if the warranty is any good.
One good thing with all the competition in gps , prices are coming down to very affordable levels. Just a couple of years ago, and prices were much much higher. Seems that electronics of all sorts are one of the few things in life that is not prone to inflation. |
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