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aljacket

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Posted - 06 sept. 2007 :  05:41:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
UPDATED 20071125 : New topics : The NAVIGON Index - Customizing the 2100

UPDATED 20071123 - Feedback from Supremo after unboxing his BF 2100 purchased at Staples this morning :

My $0.02 - I picked up the 2100 at the Staples Black Friday sale this morning ($99 + tax), included is a scratch-off card that allows you to activate the Free Lifetime traffic subscription. You get the product ID from the unit, scratch off the included card to get an activation code, go to the Navigon website and register your unit, then to the Activation website and (1) enter your product ID, (2) enter the unlock code on the back of the scratch off card. A new code is generated, enter it into the 2100 on the appropriate screen, and traffic info is now activated. Traffic data is supplied by Total Traffic Network, website advertises 68 major metropolitan areas currently supported. "Service is available for the life of the product as long as coverage exists".

Once activated, a "traffic" icon appears. Tapping it gives you a list of local areas where there may be "issues" (heavy traffic, road work, etc.) Not clear (yet) if this info is linked to the map display to warn you (there were no traffic issues in my immediate locale where I briefly tested it).

In addition to the Traffic service, a Zagat POI service is also available for $40 US. See the Navigon website for details.

Package from Staples included window suction mount, dashboard stick-on plate, CLA adapter, TMC activation card, Quick Start guide.

First (very preliminary) impressions-

(1) Screen is somewhat crowded (but usable)if you activate all the display features (speed, ETA, distance, etc.).
(2) Voice is somewhat tinny but easy audible above road noise
(3) SD card (2 Gbyte) appears to contain almost everything of interest, i.e
- 1 large .map file (1.42 Gbyte) in root with 48 CONUS states (no Alaska or Hawaii). Map file creation date is August 2007, but that could be simply the date it was loaded onto the SD card.

Note: While there is no Canada map included on the SD card, on the bottom of the unit is (stamped into the housing) "Canada 310"...

- MN6 folder with subfolders for languages, user settings, sound (looks like 3 TTS options), etc.
- POI folder (12.8 Mbyte)

I could not immediately identify a "skin" file.

I did not try various power/reset combos to see if I could get into the underlying operating system.

I only tried one route at one "setting", it seemed to be identical to my Mio's (C310x and C520).



UPDATED 20071117 : it seems the Navigon 2100, will be THE GPS deal of the 2007 Black Friday with :
- Powerful 7100 software (see dedicated topic)
- Activated Reality View option
- Activated Lifetime Traffic option

Prices so far : $150 at Radio Shack (see page 2) $99 at Staples - see this topic.




http://www.navigon.com/site/us/en/products/2100

It looks like another Navigon is coming down the pike, the NAVIGON 2100. From the Navigon Web Site:

quote:
A GPS device that makes you street smart.
View Demo Feel more confident on the road with the NAVIGON® 2100. Stylishly compact, accurate and affordable, the NAVIGON 2100 makes your world easy to navigate. It offers a brilliant 3.5" touchscreen display, intuitive menus, stunning 2D and 3D map views and clear voice guidance so you can keep your eyes on the road.

The affordable NAVIGON 2100 is built with the same design DNA of NAVIGON's award-winning 7100 and 5100 devices—and offers features that aren't available on systems at twice the price. It is among the only products in its price tier that offers spoken driving directions and street names with advanced text to speech technology, and offers NAVIGON's exclusive Reality View™ for extra 3D guidance when you need it most.

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gpspassion

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Posted - 06 sept. 2007 :  11:15:01  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good catch, looks like a "mini-7100" - I though "Reality View" was an option on that model, but not in the US apparently.

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Planet GPS

369 Posts

Posted - 06 sept. 2007 :  20:48:32  Show Profile  Visit Planet GPS's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was just going to post about this but it looks like you beat me to it The Navigon 2100 sure looks like a winner. With most of the same features that the 7100 has, like Reality View and free traffic service, and a price of under 200.00, it will make scrambled eggs out of the nuvi 350. Certainly looks like Garmins work is going to be cut out for them. This model is a very good strategic move on Navigons part, and I heard they are coming out with a 9100 early first quarter of next year too. It's amazing how with just a few models they have covered so much ground
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wallstreet123456

388 Posts

Posted - 06 sept. 2007 :  20:51:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any info on the 9100?

Edited by - wallstreet123456 on 06 sept. 2007 20:54:00
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gpspassion

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Posted - 06 sept. 2007 :  21:04:26  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No and OT in this thread anyway, let's focus on the shipping or annouced models ;-)

$200 sounds a bit low, did you get that by converting € to $ ? In Europe, RV and TMC are optional, €39 for RV if memory serves.
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Planet GPS

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Posted - 06 sept. 2007 :  22:23:59  Show Profile  Visit Planet GPS's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well the 7100 has a retail of 649 and it is selling for 499, and the 2100 has a retail of 249 so it will most likely sell for 199.00 at the most. I'll post some examples as soon as the stores get them on the shelves Even at full retail it's still a bargain.
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nadaki

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Posted - 07 sept. 2007 :  08:28:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually I bought 5100 yesterday.
What is the difference between 5100 and 2100?
Its apprearance is same with 5100 as I see it.

Do you know what is releasing date in US?
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Planet GPS

369 Posts

Posted - 07 sept. 2007 :  15:19:00  Show Profile  Visit Planet GPS's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it already is released, it's just not on the store shelves just yet...
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gpspassion

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Posted - 07 sept. 2007 :  18:33:35  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Where did you see the $249 retail price on the Navigon site ? Still sounds too good to be true with RV and TMC ;-)

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Deinonychus

USA
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Posted - 08 sept. 2007 :  05:10:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the "Features" page on the Navigon 2100 section on the official site:

"Find the fastest route to your daughter's soccer game with NAVIGON 2100's Real-Time Traffic service. This optional feature offers up-to-date traffic reports that will help you avoid congested streets and get to your destination faster and with less stress."

I am guessing that traffic will be an additional cost to the 2100.

Edited by - Deinonychus on 08 sept. 2007 05:11:40
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aer

USA
372 Posts

Posted - 08 sept. 2007 :  06:42:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Planet GPS

I was just going to post about this but it looks like you beat me to it The Navigon 2100 sure looks like a winner. With most of the same features that the 7100 has, like Reality View and free traffic service, and a price of under 200.00, it will make scrambled eggs out of the nuvi 350. Certainly looks like Garmins work is going to be cut out for them. This model is a very good strategic move on Navigons part, and I heard they are coming out with a 9100 early first quarter of next year too. It's amazing how with just a few models they have covered so much ground



Please be more careful with facts. The is a lot of rosy false information about navigon US products. Yes the pr stuff implies traffic, but if you check the shipping data the traffic is not included. it is $99 more. the zagat poi is another $40 more.

The only thing amazing about navigon at this point is how much they have alienated their customers with hidden downgrades to their products and abysmal customer support.

Navigon needs to to worry less about spinning its products and more about actual feature, performance and support.

Edited by - aer on 08 sept. 2007 06:44:10
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gpspassion

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Posted - 08 sept. 2007 :  13:46:29  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
er...let's keep it factual and civil here, please.

I'm still struggling to see the $249 price on the Navigon site and the cost of these options, can you be more specific ?

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Planet GPS

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Posted - 08 sept. 2007 :  15:45:42  Show Profile  Visit Planet GPS's Homepage  Reply with Quote
(snip) you can see the price and learn more about the 2100 by clicking here Look next to the picture, by where it says "in major retailers in October" (toward the top of the page). The 2100 seems to be geared for those that want a powerful GPS unit, but don't necessarily want to pay for extra features that they may or may not use. They can always add these features on at a later date. Quite frankly I like the fact that they don't pre-install (and charge for) every feature automatically. It allows you to customize the unit to your own needs. (snip)
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aer

USA
372 Posts

Posted - 08 sept. 2007 :  16:00:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gpspassion

er...let's keep it factual and civil here, please.

I'm still struggling to see the $249 price on the Navigon site and the cost of these options, can you be more specific ?




I agree. "PlanetGPS" claimed it has features like free traffic.

to be precise his quote was: "With most of the same features that the 7100 has, like Reality View and free traffic service, and a price of under 200.00, "

no it does not. one can find the buried extra charges if one looks. (not $249 as claimed but $249 + $99 + 39, or way way more than the street price of a 350 ($350).

If it is based on the current problematic 7100/5100 software it also does not have true Text to Speech and thereby is going to have a problem competing with the 3xx at any price point.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 08 sept. 2007 :  16:04:31  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah so now you realize there are options you have to pay for...Anyway, moving on, ok for the 249, now we need to complete the puzzle for the price of what appear to be the options, i.e. traffic and RV, now if we're confused one can only imagine how much the casual user will be, this rarely gives good results...

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aer

USA
372 Posts

Posted - 13 nov. 2007 :  22:15:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FYI,
The 2120 has been released. Principle difference seems to be that it has full North American maps and not just continental US
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