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mckenziec
Canada
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 Posted - 21 juin 2007 : 20:50:51
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NOTE TO MODERATORS: If this ends up a double post, I'm sorry. The original post was started probably on the root of forum by accident and I don't see my post anywhere, so please delete this one or my other post. Thanks!
Hey guys.
I've been trolling gpspassion.com for a couple of days now while I waited for my C220s to be delivered.
One thing that's confusing me is I thought the C220 had like 32meg flash ram on-board. (and 256meg rom, which I'll assume isn't used for maps) I checked the software "DVD" this unit comes with and was surprised to see only 3 files under /maps/ (Base, Canada and USAMAJOR) they all add up to 174 megs. They're dated 2006.10 BTW.
After all the talk about big maps, 1+ gig SD carts and what not, I'm confused. Am I missing like 100s of megs worth of POI and maps for the US and possibly Canada, or is this all of it?
I'm traveling to Seattle in July and was hoping to use this unit. Image how much it would suck to ride in on a "major" highway but can't use POIs to find a nice place to eat, or my hotel. :-)
Also, how do I switch from miles to kilometers? I haven't found a setting to do this.
Other than that, my only other complaint/concern is the interface is a bit confusing. Would replacing the skin help? Any suggestions on where to not only find said skins but a particular one to start with?
I've been playing with the interface and I think I understand where they were going with it. Its a bit frustrating if you think from a 1st timer perspective. Like theres little reason to switch between 2D/3D, or Cockpit/Map modes, but the Menu lets you select a destination, then you can "route to" it. I still would like Cockpit to auto switch when I'm routing, versus Map mode when I'm tracking but not routing.
Any other reason to unlock other than skins? I've got a hacked PSP (4 gig mem stick) and a MP3 car deck for music, games and movies. I was hoping to play with a fuel mileage app to track gas consumption.
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obarnes
USA
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Posted - 21 juin 2007 : 22:17:10
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mckenziec, you will need to install the USA_Washintgon.fbl onto an SD card from the DVD. There may be room in the flash memory for a couple too?
For skins, see my url below - Quicksilver and Ciberus are good ones but all comes down to personal preference ;-) These are MioMap 3.2 - do you have 3.2 or 3.3 on your C220? There are links to both on the website but they are not interchangeable...
For miles/kilometers go into settings | language and you should see an option for Miles/Feet, Kilometers/meters, Miles/yards...
Unlocking is good if you want to have a new interface with more icons, add MP3 or Video player or other apps and move files around between flash and SD etc. but you can also do some of this with the Miotransfer.exe hack - take a look at the forums for unlocking and customizing and see what folks have done - you can then decide if its worth it for you...
Good luck!
OB. |
 MioMap Skins & Mods [Mio C320, Mio C710, Loox N100, Wintec WBT100, Garmin eTrex Vista, Qstarz 1300, BB 8310 , GJ Skin] |
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garygid
USA
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Posted - 21 juin 2007 : 22:53:43
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The C220 should have been delivered with a 1GB SD card
that contains all of the detailed state maps.
If that SD card is missing, take the unit back.
If the SD card is there, just put it in the C220,
(probably then do a soft reset), and all the detailed
maps shopuld be there.
I would think that a "backup" of all the state maps
should be on the DVD also, but I do not have one to check.
Other 220 users, are all the maps on the DVD-ROM?
Cheers, Gary |
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mckenziec
Canada
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Posted - 22 juin 2007 : 01:54:12
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Actually that's sort of why I'm asking. I've got the C220s, which is the Canadian version of the C220. It doesn't come with an SD cart full of US maps. (at least I've deduced this by now)
I haven't been able to get access to the file system to figure out what's actually on-board.
My understanding is the flash rom isn't writable. And if it only comes with the quoted 32 megs flash, then how is the 174 megs worth of maps fitting on it? Because they're there, I search for a POI in every city in Canada and the maps seemed detailed.
I have a feeling the C220s isn't identical to the C220. It does however use CE 5 and same version maps.
I did do a search on this site for the C220s and only came up with my own post.
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garygid
USA
1322 Posts |
Posted - 22 juin 2007 : 03:36:04
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Oops, you are correct, the C220s is different, and I
missed the "s" - sorry.
I suspect that the detailed Canada map (maybe 110 MB or so)
and the major roads of the US (and world basemap) is all you
get, and all of that is on the internal flash memory, with no SD card.
The US version comes with the US maps, and no Canada map, I think.
Detailed US maps are between 900 MB and 1.8 GB depending
upon the version. More POIs in the later maps add most of the bulk.
I thought that the C220s had at least 256 MB of flash, and
probably has 32 (or possibly 64) MB of RAM.
Part of the flash is devoted to "Boot-ROM system" and the
rest is used for the WinCE, maps, and MioMap and related stuff.
If you can get to the WinCE Control Panel, you can see the
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mckenziec
Canada
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Posted - 22 juin 2007 : 04:04:44
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Right! I'm remembering my PPC days now. Its 256 meg flash, with probably 128 for the system, and 128 for non-system files and maps. That's why the whole 174 megs of maps will fit.
Oh and I finally found where to change mph to kmh. 
I haven't been able to get the file transfer hack working. The hacked Mio Transfer just seems to hang for a couple of seconds and ends up doing nothing. Any pointers?
I'm' going to try and find a better guide.
Thanks! |
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garygid
USA
1322 Posts |
Posted - 22 juin 2007 : 04:41:03
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Get the standard Mio Transfer working first.
Install Mio Transfer, run it, and then connect the
Mio unit, which must be on, and probably at the
"main screen" for the connection to work. |
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mckenziec
Canada
6 Posts |
Posted - 22 juin 2007 : 16:14:25
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So I got the 250 transfer hack working, which is great! I tried playing with an old 32 meg SD cart I had, but it doesn't seem to be any good with the device. Most likely it needs to be formatted, it would be nice if the Mio software could do the formating for from the device. (to be safe)
I sent an e-mail to Mio about the C220s and its Major US roads only maps. A bit of a raw deal if you asked me. An equal priced US versus Canada AIO GPS, but the US version comes with a 1 gig SD cart and DVD with the entire US, while the Canada GPS is Canada only for the most part. What are they gaining from this if they don't sell the other countries maps? Do they REALLY think we'll run out an buy the other device so we can navigate both? Maybe I'm just being impatient and the next map release will be made available for all. ($$$ or for free)
There doesn't seem to be any way to get any of the US maps either. From what I've read, the license.db is tied to the device. I would buy just Washington state's map and POIs, but there doesn't seem to be any way!?
Other than that, I'm quite pleased with my C220s. The tracking is pretty accurate and fast. I'm impressed with the interface's performance. Hell, I was worried performance would stink. My past experience with PDAs has shown that a 400mhz X-Scale doesn't spell guaranteed performance.
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garygid
USA
1322 Posts |
Posted - 22 juin 2007 : 17:46:39
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A small caution - As per the forum rules:
This forum is not a good place to suggest (or even appear
like you might be suggesting) that you would like to have
some information on using other "illegal" maps and licenses.
There are other forums that are more appropriate for venting
these types of frustrations.
However, good to have you with us.
And, yes, many of us suffer with this lack-of-legal-maps and
lack-of-updated-maps frustration. We hope that "soon" we will
get updated maps and POIs for the C310x.
Cheers, Gary
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mckenziec
Canada
6 Posts |
Posted - 22 juin 2007 : 19:03:42
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Oh I've read the the moderator stern warnings about illegal map talk. I was just pointing out that the maps are locked and there's no way to buy sets online. I've no clue where'd I'd even start with that.
I was using a PDA/GPS/Mapopolis combo previously and with it I could simply purchase the states or provinces I wanted maps for. I have a bad feeling I'll end up having the buy the entire US for like $180. (assuming they make it available)
So what about running iGo? I think there's a 30-day trial? Or was it some different software? In my case its the fact I'm traveling to Washington state in July that I'm looking at different possibilities, not an update to the 2006.10 maps. |
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Supremo
USA
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Posted - 22 juin 2007 : 20:02:24
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| iGO 2006 has been stated to work on the C310x, and as I recall it's in the $100 range, in any case cheaper than your stated price of $180 (assuming you already have an SD card youc an install it on). If you don't, see the SD card threads for dynamite deals on eBay - my last 4GB TopRam 150x card cost me ~$32 shipped and included a free USB SD reader. |
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davedds
USA
91 Posts |
Posted - 23 juin 2007 : 07:25:32
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| Perhaps since you just got the c220s you can return it and buy a "US" c220 from a store in the USA and have it shipped to you...I think there is a "legal" way to d/l Canada's map some where on one of mio-tech's site. I am not 100% sure but I would say I read it somewhere here and I think it was a "legal" d/l. I think also puerto rico was also there to d/l. but I may be wrong...search here or with google...I read it somewhere but dont remember. I dont and will never need Canada so I did not d/l it...Maybe an updated map for the c310x??? It may work??? It may not??? |
Mio c220 v3.2 - Smartblue 7.3 and other stuff google is your friend.... |
Edited by - davedds on 23 juin 2007 07:54:50 |
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MoonBear
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Posted - 23 juin 2007 : 17:41:36
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| The iGo 2006 Plus you can buy is a PDA software whereas C220(s) is a PND. The PDA version won't work on C220(s). You need a PND version which I don't know where to "buy". |
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machani
Canada
35 Posts |
Posted - 25 juin 2007 : 08:08:16
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mckenziec,
Did you hear back from Mio Support on your email question about US maps?
FYI, I live in the greater Vancouver area and been reading good things about the Mio C220 in Amazon and CNet (user reviews, NOT editor review), particularly about its User Interface. Unfortunately the lack of both full US map support on the C220s model is a bummer, since I too travel to Washington State regularly and definitely need detailed maps.
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CN Machani
Have Mio C520, will travel! |
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garygid
USA
1322 Posts |
Posted - 25 juin 2007 : 16:38:03
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Using "Map-Packs":
Even though MIO only supplied a Canada map on its web site
briefly (I downloaded it legally from them), and MIO does not
now offer a Canada map to the US market, the US version of the
C310x contains a license that includes using a Canada map.
All I did, with my legally-obtained Canada map, was
put it on an SD card in a "Maps" directory, insert
the SD card, soft-reset the C310x to recognize the new
SD card, and it worked.
Thus, I have an SD card "Map-Pack" for Canada.
Sadly, the MIO "50 MB" Canadian map is mostly (or entirely?)
without POIs. Hopefully MIO will make un updated Canada map,
with updated roads and with many POIs, available to us
at some reasonable price. If MIO do not, it might tempt
more folks to use illegal maps, so I hope MIO will indeed
offer "Map-Packs" of many areas.
Some skins, like the "SmartBlue 7.0" skin, show the name
and "license code" of each license being used. Look for
a "License" button added to the bottom of the About screen.
What license does your MIO unit use?
I said "each" because the MioMap program seems to support
at least two licenses. First, the "standard" license
read from the \My Flash Disk\miomap\miomap\ folder inside
the MIO (where the MioMap program itself is located).
Second, if the SD card has an iGO folder on it, MioMap
seems to notice, read, and also use the license.db file
located there!
I guess this allows MIO to sell an SD card with maps to
some XYZ area in a \Maps\ directory, and to include the
license (needed to allow use of those XYZ maps) in an
\iGO\ folder on the SD card.
Actually, this is a very nice feature, allowing one to use
maps of any specific area just by buying the proper
map-and-license ("Map-Pack") card, and no further software
is needed, and no modifications of any kind are needed
to the C310x.
Note that such a "Map-Pack" license would probably
be "locked" to the Hardware ID of the SD card, and sadly
that does not allow making a legal functioning backup
of the precious "original" data.
I would guess that this same "Map-Pack" feature
is available on many of the MIO units (at least
the ones running MioMap 3.2).
The standard C310x license is "Mio Map v3 North America"
with the code "CE-3A5H-2E87-K35K-19BM-EBC1".
This information is apparently read by MioMap from the
license file, and then just displayed by the skin.
I wonder if the license in the Canadian C310s or C220s
already allows use of maps for the US states?
Quite possibly the Canadian license is different from
the one supplied on my C310x. I do not have an "s"
version to check.
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machani
Canada
35 Posts |
Posted - 25 juin 2007 : 23:28:35
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gary,
Thanks for the very informative write up of the mio maps. From what I have read in other forums, Mio customer service has been "promising" US users that they will have downloadable Candian maps for some months now. Unfortunately, their website has no such information.
Furthermore, the new Mio C520 also comes loaded only with the US maps. This is a really bummer for Candians (most of whom live huddled close to the US border). We LOVE to go to the US for shopping, pleasure and business. And 50% of our economy depends on US business.
And for Americans living in border states with a lot of traffic to Canada like Washington St and Michigan, it must be a bummer too. I hope the geniouses at Mio figure out that they don't need a Canadian version, just a standard North American version with US and Canadian maps pre-loaded.
Cheers, |
CN Machani
Have Mio C520, will travel! |
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