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diverhank
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 Posted - 16 avr. 2004 : 02:57:46
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Update by GpsPasSion: Link to diverhank's handy undocumented features webpage
OK. I've been learning a lot from you guys. Many thanks. I have been collecting tips and tricks from y'all and I'm listing what I've got. You should recognize where these were from  . Are there more?
1. Diagnostic Screens. Hold down menu and find buttons then turn on the unit it will boot to a diagnostic screen. This screen tells you such information as software and firmware versions, unit temperature, what type data card you have in it. When on the diagnostic screen you can press page repeatedly to see a bunch of different testing screens.
2. Diagnostic Screens. Other button sequence on bootup are:
Page+Find then turn unit on = force autolocate
Page+Menu then turn unit on = clear user settings
3. Go Home. Pressing FIND button twice quickly: Option to Route HOME. HOME is a waypoint you create and named HOME.
4. Volume Control.
a. Press and hold SPEAK button, the control for volume shows up, volume at current setting.
b. Press it again, the volume is set to Maximum.
c. Press it again, the volume is set to Minimum (Mute)
d. Press it again, the volume is set to current setting (step a).
5. Define Waypoint by entering Lat/Long. Press and hold the page key until a new waypoint is created. Then tap on the location and edit it for the new lat/lon. You can only use the dd mm.mmm in WGS 84 format.
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Edited by - anthlover on 02 janv. 2005 20:43:31
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anthlover
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Posted - 16 avr. 2004 : 03:04:11
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diverhank
USA
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 01:44:59
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Relating to the other threads about inserting VIA points using Mapsource. I think this qualifies as an undocumented feature for the SP2610...
To Create Multiple Destinations. You can accomplish this by programming these destinations as VIA points using MAPSOURCE on the PC. Programming them using the 2610 does not get the arrival at VIA point announcement.
To create VIA points using MAPSOURCE. What you do is to double click on the route, click on the Via Points Tab, you will see the existing Via points. Usually just the two start and end points. If you already have the waypoints stored, click on the insert waypoint tab and insert the waypoints. If you want to search for addresses or POI, use the two buttons that has the binocular (POI has binocular and a target).
After you insert these new via points, you can arrange them in the order you want using the up /down buttons. Press calculate and it will calculate the route for you with all of the via points you program. Save the route then import it to the 2610.
When this route is executed, the 2610 will announce the arrival at each VIA point, in this case would be the multiple destinations in the order you choose. Even after you turn power off, the 2610 will resume the route after you turn it back on.
***Question for Anthlover: On the SP2620 literature, it says that it has capabilities to perform multiple destinations while the SP2610 cannot. How do you do this on the 2620?
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anthlover
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 04:15:20
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Color me confused:
That was some of what I thought was added in Beta 2.95 and later (the Vias aka "the Salesman Feature"). I Believe the new downloadable 2610/2650 manual is now virtually idendical to the 2620/2660 manual.
Of course I will look in the 2620 manual. But what am I looking for? Vias and WAAS (Ground Station correction capabilty) plus all the stuff in the various release notes of each update to the current as of April 18 04 Firmware 3.4 is all I am aware of. |
Edited by - anthlover on 19 avr. 2004 04:17:01 |
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bracky
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 04:27:22
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| You can add/edit via points with the 2610 no problem. Just press route and select add/edit via points. :D |
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anthlover
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 04:34:40
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I think driverhank is saying that when he programmed the via from the 2610 they were not announced? That would be odd...
Anyway.. Offical Verbage from 2620 manual P.34 Press and Hold Menu Key for two secs. (two view Active Route) then Select Add/Edit vias button (according to the manual you can add 48 [of course that was firmware 3.0, forgot if that # was upped in one of the firmware updates]). |
Edited by - anthlover on 19 avr. 2004 04:38:52 |
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diverhank
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 04:46:43
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quote:
Originally posted by anthlover
I think driverhank is saying that when he programmed the via from the 2610 they were not announced? That would be odd...
That's what I'm observing. I just tested it again today. If I do it using the 2610, it will guide me through the via point but no announcement like "arriving at via point...". If I do it in Mapsource and download it, it will announce. The announcement is the only difference.
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slickersled
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 05:48:31
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| It would be odd particularly since the 2620 didn't ship with Mapsource unless differences in the 2620 firmware enable it to announce VIA points. |
Edited by - slickersled on 19 avr. 2004 05:52:26 |
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anthlover
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 06:05:31
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Guess I going to have to test. As guys are aware I am Auto renter (a few times a month, mostly) more in the summer months and of course an occational vacation...
So in the mean time off to Radio Trash (anybody remember the TRS 80:)to get a $20 dollar Cigertte lighter Adapter to borrow so I can hear the Routing Sim. from the Garmin Auto Adapter.
P.S. Not to confirm the Obvious but are we all using firmware 3.4? |
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diverhank
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 06:15:05
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quote:
Originally posted by slickersled
It would be odd particularly since the 2620 didn't ship with Mapsource unless differences in the 2620 firmware enable it to announce VIA points.
That's what I'm thinking. Of course there's a chance I screwed up setting up the 2610 vias somehow. I need your help testing it out and confirm or prove me wrong  . Yes, I'm using the latest firmware 3.4
Edited: I have a suspicion that when programming in the 2610, the end point has to be a VIA point also to get the announcements. I only inserted via points in the middle of an existing route. I think Mapsource converts everything to VIA points. It's too late for me tonight to test it. I'll do it tomorrow and give a report.
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anthlover
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 06:36:05
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Nope still weird. The whole Point of Vias is that is a multi Destintation Trip, with the Goal of fully monty directions and arrival announments.
And of course the Street Pilot also has the option of finding you the shortest way to get to all your stops... |
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bracky
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 12:49:09
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I had a trs-80 and a apple ][+ hehe.
My 2610 announces my arrival at via points just fine. I created them on my 2610. I don't much care for mapsource. Seems very clunky compared to something like streets and trips 2004. |
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diverhank
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 15:54:14
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quote:
Originally posted by bracky
My 2610 announces my arrival at via points just fine. I created them on my 2610.
I'm so confused. What am I doing that's different? Can you describe what you do to set it up? I don't even use VIAs so it should not bother me but.... Thanks
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slickersled
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 18:17:33
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| I too would be interested in what I'm doing different. On several long trips, I've used VIA's and while I'm routed properly, the VIA's were not announced. Moreover, if I bypass a VIA and ignore offroute warnings, the 2610 stops rerouting back to the VIA after a while and proceeds on to the next VIA. There doesn't seem to be any voice settings to turn on or off VIA announcements in the manual either. However, if someone is getting VIA arrival announcements on the 2610 on stops programmed on the unit, then it may be something simple like saving the route with the VIA's (I don't recall if I did this) or a defective unit. |
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slickersled
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 20:42:49
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FYI: I clipped the following from the Yahoo 2610 Board. Seems like a lot of people are not getting alerts once they arrive at their VIA destinations. Bracky, are you doing anything special to get that feature working? Thanks.
> Issue #2:Using the 2610, I wanted to START and END at my home
> naturally! How the heck can you do this? When I entered start and
> end HOME I was no able to ACTIVATE the route. Apparently
> a "finished" route cannot be activated, so I was stuck with using
> one of the waypoints as and end point - not too big of a deal, but
> gosh...too bad this was tricky for the 2610. Ok, now I had to add
> the vias one by one. I wish this part was a bit easier. It was
> something like 10 clicks for EACH point added - a slight pain in
> the
> butt. Then I Auto Arranged them. That's a cool feature..BUT...it
> asked me if I'd like included the END point in the Auto Arrange
> function. I said YES. It created a route that ended WAY AWAY from
> my
> HOME. I didn't like that. Maybe that makes sense to arrange it
> like
> that, but I had wished it would have kept the END point closer to
> my
> HOME. So ok, lets try and MOVE the END POINT to a different VIA
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> waypoint) in the route. I was NOT able to figure out how do to
> this!! Anyone know how?
If all of your via points are waypoints, then don't activate a
stored route. Just start from scratch on the GPS unit. First,
create a route to your home, even if you are at your home. Hit
FIND, FIND, ENTER. Then add your waypoints just as you did. You've
now got a route with all your vias in it that ends at your home.
Now, when you do auto arrange, tell it not to change the end point.
Voila! Now you've got a route starting at home, ending at home and
hitting all your vias in the best way possible.
> Ok, all of the little "quirks" up to this point are tolerable I
> think. Or, at least I can deal with them w/o getting too upset,
> but
> what happened next was inexcusable: The next day I started on this
> route and I'm very disappointed with how the 2610 handles VIAs. In
> a
> nutshell: We kept driving to the vias and the 2610 did NOT "think"
> we ever got there and when continuing on the route would make us
> turn around (by going around the blocks - U-Turn directions are
> rare
> w/ this 2610, but more on that later...). So we needed a way to
> tell
> the unit "OK we are done w/ that VIA regardless of whether or not
> you determined we actually visited it"
I agree. Garmin needs a way for the user to tell it that we've
reached the via point. What I do is when I reach the via point, I
simply remove it from the via list and recalculate the route.
However, if you know where you are going and just keep driving
towards the next via, the unit WILL eventually figure it out. But
it isn't very user friendly.
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bracky
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Posted - 19 avr. 2004 : 22:44:45
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| Well to be honesnt I've only used the feature a few times. The times I have used it I was already navigating a route. Decided I was hungry so pressed route then add/edit via. I added in the restaurant. As I approach the via point it will say something like "In .5 miles arriving at via point on right". If I happen to go out in my car this evening I shall try it again to be certain. |
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