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chipster
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 Posted - 14 déc. 2006 : 23:27:04
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UPDATED BY GPSPASSION 20080826 : Well the verdict is in and SiRF has nearly lost its battle against Globallocate, now owned by Broadcom, they did infringe on Globallocate's patents on AGPS a judge found in his initial ruling. I must say I'm not that surprised and when I first heard the news of SiRF launching SiRFInstantFix v1 in early 2006 I was concerned they were headed for trouble...
Now it seems GPS systems using SiRF chipsets with SiRFInstantFix, presumably only SIF v1 (see [TOPIC] "Auto-AGPS" - SiRFInstantFixII - HotFix for details on SIF v2) might be banned from the US. This would include the TomTom GO products. Ironically the TomTom ONE products include Globallocate's Hammerhead v1 chipset that uses LTO, GL's version of SiRFInstantFix...
I saw this article in the news today.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8M0NQ6G0.htm
Anyone have opinons on Global Locate vs SiRF? |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 14 déc. 2006 : 23:39:08
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Hope he's not confusing TomTom and HP as the hw6515 (full review) and 6915 (full review) GPS PDAphones used a Globallocate chipset with a TomTom bundle and for a while there were quite a few problems with the GPS "losing the plot". I'm not sure whether that ever got fixed on the 6515, but in my latest comparisons the 6915 did pretty well
That would be good news for Globallocate as they hadn't had any major wins since these PDAPhones with the GL20000 and HP used SiRFstarIII for their recent rx5935 GPS PDA. I suspect that would be for the more advanced Hammerhead GPS chipset that I haven't had a chance to try yet.
PS - I've modified your title as "drop SiRF" was certainly not reflective of the article you linked ;-) |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 06 avr. 2007 : 00:39:38
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...and not this http://www.globallocate.com/PRESS/Press_Releases/PR_GL_SiRF_ITC.htm
"Global Locate Files Complaint Against SiRF in the ITC
San Jose, California – April 2, 2007 - Global Locate, Inc. will file a complaint today with the United States International Trade Commission (ITC) in Washington, D.C. against SiRF Technology, Inc. (NASDAQ: SIRF) and four of its customers: E-TEN Corporation (“E-TEN”), Pharos Science & Applications, Inc. (“Pharos”), MiTAC International Corporation (“MiTAC”), and Mio Technology Limited, USA (“Mio”). The complaint alleges that certain SiRF GPS devices and the products and of E-TEN, Pharos, MiTAC and Mio containing SiRF’s GPS devices infringe six (6) patents concerning GPS devices and methods and systems for using such devices. Global Locate patents 6,651,000 and 7,158,080 relate to Global Locate’s Long Term Orbit (LTO) technology. Global Locate patents 6,417,801, 6,937,187 and 6,704,651 relate to algorithms for achieving fast fixes using only coarse time assistance and for enhancing receiver sensitivity. Global Locate patent 6,606,346 relates to an architecture for efficient parallel correlation in a GPS receiver..."
TomTom are also using SiRF's SiRFinstantFix, see this article and it makes sense that GL are not suing TomTom, but I wonder if that doesn't weaken their case against SiRF's other customers. |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 26 août 2008 : 19:57:16
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Well the verdict is in and SiRF has nearly lost its battle against Globallocate, now owned by Broadcom, they did infringe on Globallocate's patents on AGPS a judge found in his initial ruling. I must say I'm not that surprised and when I first heard the news of SiRF launching SiRFInstantFix v1 in early 2006 I was concerned they were headed for trouble...
Now it seems GPS systems using SiRF chipsets with SiRFInstantFix, presumably only SIF v1 (see [TOPIC] "Auto-AGPS" - SiRFInstantFixII - HotFix for details on SIF v2) might be banned from the US. This would include the TomTom GO products. Ironically the TomTom ONE products include Globallocate's Hammerhead v1 chipset that uses LTO, GL's version of SiRFInstantFix...
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gatorguy
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Posted - 27 août 2008 : 00:23:00
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| Final ruling from the panel on whether they will confirm the judges recommendation coming in December (reportedly) |
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gatorguy
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Posted - 28 août 2008 : 01:26:44
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| And today, the ITC, who ironically is charged with finalizing the judge's recommendation, appealed the judge's initial ruling that sirf violated patents held by Broadcomm via Globallocate. |
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gpspassion
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paulkbiba
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Posted - 28 août 2008 : 03:34:31
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| Not necessarily. SiRF is probably appealing to overturn the ruling. The Staff could be appealing because they don't like a part of the ruling. For example the ruling could have not banned import of the units with the chips and the Staff might want that ban enforced. They would have to appeal the ruling to change any part of it they don't like. |
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gatorguy
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Posted - 28 août 2008 : 04:47:17
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| The ITC is empowered with making a final determination on the penalties as I understand it. See no need to appeal the judges ruling to lessen or increase the penalties. Judge only made a determination that sirf had violated patent laws and made a recommendation to the full panel.He can't determine the penalty. |
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paulkbiba
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Posted - 28 août 2008 : 04:59:26
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| Of course, that's just an example of why the staff might appeal. Perhaps a better one could be their disagreement on some of the judge's findings of fact. That happened to me once. |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 29 août 2008 : 00:17:58
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It looks like Mitac (Mio, Navman) is not taking any chances : "Mitac to give up SiRF GPS solutions due to patent dispute" http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20080827PD219.html
"Yen Ting Chen, Taipei; Adam Hwang, DIGITIMES [Thursday 28 August 2008]
Mitac International will stop using GPS chipset solutions provided by US-based SiRF Technology which are involved in SiRF's infringement of six GPS patents belonging to Global Locate, a wholly owned subsidiary of US-based Broadcom, beginning the fourth quarter of 2008, according to industry sources in Taiwan...Mitac uses SiRF chipsets in nearly 80% of its products, the sources indicated.
If the ITC upholds the initial judgment, an order prohibiting sales in the US is expected to come into force in February 2009 at the earliest, the sources indicated. Thus, Mitac's marketing of its own-brand GPS products in the US, the company's main market, will not be affected until then, the sources analyzed.
Although SiRF has asserted that it will offer "design around" products beginning early 2009 to minimize the impact of the dispute, Mitac has decided to quit the adoption of the SiRF solutions involved in the infringement and will seek alternative solutions in an attempt to minimize possible risks, the sources pointed out..." |
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