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Real Ragman

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Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  00:31:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, read this http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=38552
Yes you can save your POI to your SD card. (For backup only)
And yes you can easy put your csv into the mapsource.
You can even create csv files with the Mapsource.
These programs do exist.
And they are freeware.
I was offering these programs, but you like to spent to money on excel.
But you don't listen.

C320 user
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redcloud

USA
427 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  01:13:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do these bozos fall off the tree or what?
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Kris2005

USA
271 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  02:22:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Real Ragman

No, read this http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=38552
Yes you can save your POI to your SD card. (For backup only)
And yes you can easy put your csv into the mapsource.
You can even create csv files with the Mapsource.
These programs do exist.
And they are freeware.
I was offering these programs, but you like to spent to money on excel.
But you don't listen.

C320 user




To paraphrase a famous politician: PLEASE EXPLAIN

Edited by - Kris2005 on 08 oct. 2005 02:23:22
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njphilwt

USA
696 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  07:27:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by redcloud

I believe that the custom POIs are not loaded to the SD card, but to the hard drive space in the unit. I wish Garmin would change this because I would like to extract the POIs from the unit and upload those to Mapsource to see the location of these POIs.
This brings me to a question: Is the any mapping software that will upload POIs from cvs files to Mapsource? I tried GPSbabel, but it doesn't work.
This brings me to a second question: If there in no program that does the above, is there any mapping software that will do this?




If you have MapSource, I have a program that can convert a custom POI file to GPX format, which you can then load into MapSource. It will also convert the other way, and let you mark points, then create the POI file.

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Real Ragman

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Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  08:28:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by njphilwt


If you have MapSource, I have a program that can convert a custom POI file to GPX format, which you can then load into MapSource. It will also convert the other way, and let you mark points, then create the POI file.



Perfect you do understand.
I try to explain a little more.
Create custom POI with the Mapsource.
Save them in GPX.
Load in the freeware program, and save as csv file.
Your done.
No more wrong separators.
Automatich swapping Lat/Long
No more errors.
No cost.
Saving for Garmin, Tomtom, Destinator, Navman, Navio, Miomap, gps eXchange

And die other way around.
Open Csv file save as GPX file.
Load into Mapsource and your waypoint are there.

C320 user

Edited by - Real Ragman on 08 oct. 2005 08:32:14
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njphilwt

USA
696 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  14:14:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Real Ragman,

The program I am talking about it actually something I wrote myself.

But it sounds like you have one that you are either aware of or also wrote yourself. That's quite cool, and I'd be interested to take a look at it. (It may be better than my program, which is VERY basic.)

What I don't understand is that, also like you, I have mentioned the program a few times in this forum, and nobody seems too interested. The people who are working on POI's seem intent on doing it the "hard way".

But a conversion program saves HOURS of time. I can find a point on the map, create a waypoint, and save it to the CSV file in seconds (with no errors).

Maybe someone who reads this post can tell us why there's so little interest in this kind of quick conversion program.

PWT
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hcornea

Australia
599 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  16:26:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by njphilwt

Real Ragman,

The program I am talking about it actually something I wrote myself.

But it sounds like you have one that you are either aware of or also wrote yourself. That's quite cool, and I'd be interested to take a look at it. (It may be better than my program, which is VERY basic.)

What I don't understand is that, also like you, I have mentioned the program a few times in this forum, and nobody seems too interested. The people who are working on POI's seem intent on doing it the "hard way".

But a conversion program saves HOURS of time. I can find a point on the map, create a waypoint, and save it to the CSV file in seconds (with no errors).

Maybe someone who reads this post can tell us why there's so little interest in this kind of quick conversion program.

PWT




I attempted to do this with POIedit, which will (apparently) save in .GPX format.

Only problem is Mapsource (6.8) says it can't convert the POIedit created file, even though t reads .gpx files.

Does anyone understand why this would be so? I know nothing about the format(?s) of gpx files.
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njphilwt

USA
696 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  16:31:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Because MapSource is very particular about the format of the GPX file. There are several seemingly insignificant variations of the format that will cause MapSource to reject the file.

That's why I wrote my own conversion program.
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redcloud

USA
427 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  17:33:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What's the name of this program, and where is the site for the freeware version? It seems like some people are fairly nanny panny about sharing POIs and software. I took the trouble to create the entire speed trap database for Virginia, DC, and parts of Maryland and was readily willing to share (see sharing custom POIs). But with this kind of attitude, forget it.

Edited by - redcloud on 08 oct. 2005 17:35:51
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Real Ragman

11 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  17:46:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hcornea and njphilwt

Finaly someone is listning.
You are so right: a conversion program saves HOURS of time
No more errors. In just a few seconds i convert more then thousand poi.
And yes people here don't listen.
They like to do it the hard way, and if it's going wrong they blame Garmin, or the unit.
Silly, and they call themselves experts.
If you try to correct them they call you names.
I'm just trying to help pushing them to the right way.
But hey, i really know better.
99% of the errors is not the unit but the guy behind it not knowing what he's doing.
And the two of you are going into the right way!!!

hcornea
I know the problem is you have.
And i'll know the answer, it simple, but i don't want to say it here.
I don't want to read more of this name calling expert.
Mail me i'll sent you the programs and tell you how it works.
Even my 6 year old son can do it with no errors.
It's really that easy.

If 1 of you wants to tell it here how it can be done quicker, it's up to you.
I lost my interest in this forum.
Sorry.
But remember,
I did love this forum.
I have respect for the moderators of this site.
But if people don't want to listen, and going to yell, and keep doing it the hard way, my time is better spent on a other site where there is repect for other people.
I have learned a lot from people like:
natedj
dceremuga
gpspassion
diverhank
Antti
and some others i forgot......
my thanks to you all.

And never ever pay for custom POI.
You don't need to....(not even for speed traps)
Everything can be downloaded for free, if you listen to real help.

njphilwt
Respect to you, that you create your own program.
hcornea
Respect to you, for listning

Also Garmin is new on the market for custom POI.
Others are there for years.
All existing POI for other's like tomtom or navman, can be used for garmin in a simple click. But you know or you think you know it better.
That's the difference.

C320 user
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njphilwt

USA
696 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  18:27:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by redcloud

What's the name of this program, and where is the site for the freeware version? It seems like some people are fairly nanny panny about sharing POIs and software. I took the trouble to create the entire speed trap database for Virginia, DC, and parts of Maryland and was readily willing to share (see sharing custom POIs). But with this kind of attitude, forget it.



Hey Redcloud...

Your DC database sounds great. I would certainly be interested it getting a copy, if it's available aT some point.

I've been working on some POI databases myself, and have considered doing some speed trap logging, as you have.

Just to clarify, I wrote my own program, which would need a few tweaks to make usable by others. If there's interest (no pun intended), I'd be delighted to do it.

I've mentioned it a couple of times to see if this was worth doing. But I haven't had much in the way of a response, which brought up the question of how other people are creating the POI's.

Anyway... Further comments would be appreciated.

Phil

Edited by - njphilwt on 08 oct. 2005 22:16:48
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orsetto

USA
47 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  20:33:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where could I look to find lists of speedtraps and redlight cameras in my area of the USA? I might be interesting in cataloging them into a POI file and sharing with the community, but I really have no idea how to find them.

I'd imagine the answer varies from community to community. Do some communities publish the location of redlight cameras? Do people just drive around and make note of the cameras they see?
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gpspassion

93392 Posts

Posted - 08 oct. 2005 :  22:06:37  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not sure how this all started, but it's probably a good idea to keep things simple and if people want to share what their POIs or conversion programs they are most welcome to do that, there is however no point in taunting others with stuff you have and don't want to share.

Both POIs and conversion programs can be shared here http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=38618 with insructions on how to upload. As indicated over there, you can use POIedit import existing lists, save them to .asc, remove the first 3 lines and then rename to .csv and you're set !

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redcloud

USA
427 Posts

Posted - 09 oct. 2005 :  18:42:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by orsetto

Where could I look to find lists of speedtraps and redlight cameras in my area of the USA? I might be interesting in cataloging them into a POI file and sharing with the community, but I really have no idea how to find them.

I'd imagine the answer varies from community to community. Do some communities publish the location of redlight cameras? Do people just drive around and make note of the cameras they see?



Actually, since the POI loader is fairly new, these files do not exists (at least in the Garmin cvs format). I used a source called "The Speed Trap Exchange". It is an excellent source of locations of speed traps throughout the USA. Basically, I found the locations on Mapsource, input the coordinates. Its not always easy, but I was able to decipher all of the locations. Also, there is another source called "Bear Trap Guide" for interstate locations. I put all this together and created about 450 speed trap locations in Virginia. I've done Virginia, and those in other states can do the same until a very good source for speed and proximity alerts for traps and cameras is created. So basically, someone needs to take the first step. I think I've done this.
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gpspassion

93392 Posts

Posted - 09 oct. 2005 :  18:47:27  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Right, so let's all head over here http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=38618 and again POIedit is a tool you want to use here especially since it you can link it to MapQuest or Mappoint to view POIs.

So the bottom line is, no more messages about POI sharing or tools in this thread ;-) We'll just focus on POI Loader issues.

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