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 Posted - 08 juil. 2005 : 23:16:15
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Marvin-
Great job! iGkeys is a very useful addition to the software! I used it extensively on my 6 day trip to Washington DC. It made starting up and using iGuidance much more practical.
A few limitations I noticed that are not a fault of iGkeys:
1) When iGuidance is in the "Guidance" view mode, the shortcuts don't work. I keep finding that when I'm at a stop light, its a good time to zoom out and look at the overall route to check the overall route. However, at the light, iGuidance has often switched into the "guidance" view. I think its better to change the view options to manual so it won't automatically go into the Guidance view.
2) I like to run with the Route list window up. Unfortunately, it often becomes highlighted such that the main window isn't active. At that point, I have to click back into the main window before the shortcuts will work. I haven't found a way around this yet.
Suggestion:
Is it possible to do context sensitive shortcuts? I'm thinking of the following sequence: "D" (destination) followed by "R" for recent or "F" for favorites. Then, up and down arrows to pick from the list and "N" for navigate.
Thanks so much for providing this useful tool! |
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 08 juil. 2005 : 23:53:25
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Explore, thanks very much for the feedback!
1. Wow, I never knew that! I guess you can tell how I use iGuidance ;-) Guidance Screen in Display Options is set to Manual ;-) I will look at it, more less just out of curiosity, but if it doesn’t work, likely there is nothing I can do about it.
2. I'll try to drive with Route List open to see exactly what you mean, but would just hitting letter "R" do the trick? That should close the Route List. Or would Ctrl + Q help? That should (maybe) put focus on iGuidance "main" window.
3. Yes, D-key (Destination) was recently added, Recent and Favorites would be very useful indeed. It is not too difficult to add them to iGkeys. The only problem is that we are running out of easy to remember letters  For example we cannot use R, because R toggles Route List ;-) We cannot use F, because F toggle Full Screen mode ;-) Give me two good letters and I'll add both suggested features to iGkeys.
4. Up and down arrows are there. They actually are native iGuidance keyboard shortcuts (hotkeys). And I think there is really no need for a "Navigate" hotkey, because I think you can achieve the same just by hitting Enter key.
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada
P.S. Currently to access Recent (or Favorites) press D, and then ArrowUp twice (three time for Favorites). Then use arrow keys to make your selection in Recent or Favorites, and then press Enter to "Navigate". |
Edited by - Marvin Hlavac on 09 juil. 2005 12:38:25 |
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 19 juil. 2005 : 19:50:05
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Version 1.11 adds support for The Magnifier, a little utility application software which I use to magnify the little box in the bottom right corner of iGuidance, which displays ETA, distance to destination, remaining time, and speed.
If you don't use The Magnifier, there is no need to download this version of iGkeys. But if you do download it anyway, no harm will be done. You will actually gain one little feature, which I find useful: Ctrl+Q doesn't just start or restore iGuidance, it will now even minimize it. (Good for people who like to multi-task while driving ;-)
If you are interested to find out about The Magnifier, visit the iGuidance Customization Ideas thread.
If you do use The Magnifier, when you use Ctrl+Q hotkey, the following will happen:
1. iGuidance and The Magnifier will start at the same time.
2. When the Ctrl+Q hotkey is used when iGuidance already runs, it will minimize iGuidance and it will at the same time close The Magnifier.
3. When iGuidance is minimized, the Ctrl+Q hotkey will restore iGuidance and it will start The Magnifier.
(Upon starting The Magnifier the very first time via iGkeys, you will have to set up its size, position, and lock The Magnifier in the place where you wish it to be each time you start it with iGkeys.)
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
Edited by - Marvin Hlavac on 19 juil. 2005 22:50:57 |
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 27 juil. 2005 : 21:24:11
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Version 1.12 ends support for the (expensive) Magnifier, and starts support for FREE iGZoom: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28166&whichpage=6
EDIT: I was too busy the whole day today, and even though I tried to test this version 1.12 as best as I could, I could have missed something. If anyone notices any issue, any feedback will be appreciated.
v.1.12 will not affect the performance of iGkeys if you don't have iGZoom installed. So nothing will happen if you do upgrade, but upgrade is not necessary if you don't plan on using iGZoom.
iGZoom has to be installed in \Program Files\iGZoom folder in order for iGkeys to be able to see it.
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
Edited by - Marvin Hlavac on 27 juil. 2005 22:36:55 |
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mbdriver
Denmark
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Posted - 08 août 2005 : 14:16:00
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Hi all, looks like a great little util. Does it work with the European version of iGuidance?
Thanks.
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 08 août 2005 : 14:27:32
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As soon as I get my hands on iGuidance Europe (possibly this week) I will test it. I suspect it will likely work without any modification needed, but if needed I will make iGkeys Europe ;-)
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
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mbdriver
Denmark
12 Posts |
Posted - 11 août 2005 : 23:15:54
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I just received iGuidance Europe. It seems iGkeys works just fine except for Ctrl + Q as the directory is called '[Program Files]\iNav\iGuidance Europe' instead of '[Program Files]\iNav\iGuidance'.
More testing will follow.
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 12 août 2005 : 00:15:21
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Excellent, thanks for the info. I still don't have my copy, but I may do some modification tomorrow based on your info above, and post it here. Let me know if you notice something else. Tnx!
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 12 août 2005 : 12:45:08
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I just posted download link for *new & untested* iGkeys Europe on the first page of this thread. Feedback will be appreciated ;-)
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mbdriver
Denmark
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Posted - 16 août 2005 : 15:12:45
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I have used iGuidance Europe extensively for the past couple of days on my notebook. I have used iGkeys 1.12 Europe with that, and it works great! Ctrl + Q works like a charm and I have found no incompatibilities so far. Thanks Marvin!
I have one small request but I don't know if it is possible to do what I want. It is not possible to zoom in and out when in Guidance mode as discussed elsewhere in this forum. I know this is a limitation in iG rather than iGkeys. But would it be possible to make a shortcut key for toggling between Map and Guidance view? That would put the ability to zoom, when at an intersection, just one key away.
One last thing, this may be kind of lame. I noticed you added support for iGZoom in version 1.12. I use iGZoom as well, but are there any shortcuts that relate to iGZoom? I may be missing something but isn't iGZoom just a way to magnify a part of the screen?
Again, thanks for a great util! It is very useful. I don't know what I would do if I wasn't able to enter an address simply by pressing T. 
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 16 août 2005 : 16:24:11
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Okay, excellent, thanks for the feedback!
1. I will look again at the zoom-in-guidance-mode issue, but if you really want a shortcut for changing zoom levels even in guidance-mode, then it would likely need to be two different keys again (not the arrow-up and arrow-down keys). :-( I'm not sure how much need there is for this feature (since I don't use guidance-mode), but I know at least one more user was asking about this in the past.
2. Left-arrow, and right-arrow keys toggle Map-view and Guidance-mode
3. Ctrl+Q does the following (if iGZoom is in \Program Files\iGZoom folder):
- Ctrl+Q will start both iGuidance and iGZoom (if none of the two are running)
- Ctrl+Q will minimize iGuidance and close iGZoom (if both are active)
- Ctrl+Q will restore iGuidance and start iGZoom (if iGuidance is minimized, and iGZoom is noot running)
- Ctrl+Q will close iGZoom (if iGZoom is open, but iGuidance is not running)
4. If you were unable to use the "T" shortcut, I know exactly what you would do! You would just hit the "Enter" key four times ;-) Try it, it achieves the same result ;-) The "Enter" hotkey is the most useful shortcut of them all, and it is built right into iGuidance.
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mbdriver
Denmark
12 Posts |
Posted - 16 août 2005 : 16:40:41
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1. You don't need to look into 'Zoom in Guidance-mode' (not for me, anyway). Your point #2 just resolved this issue for me. :-) From another post of yours I figured it is a limitation in iGuidance. What I requested was a way to switch between Map and Guidance modes. Which brings me to nr. 2...
2. Great! I can't believe I never realized that! 
3. That makes a lot more sense to me regarding iGZoom. I will be sure to start both programs using Ctrl + Q in the future.
4. Yet another hotkey added to my expanding knowledge of iGuidance. That will surely come in handy in many situations.
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 16 août 2005 : 16:55:52
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3. Yes, please let me know if Ctrl+Q works/doesn't work as described above (When you get around setting up your iGZoom. No rush ;-)
4. I should review the list of shortcuts on the page #1 of this thread to see if there is something more missing.
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 24 août 2005 : 01:11:08
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I think there is a little bug in iGuidance Europe 2.1.2 which will likely prevent some of our shortcuts from functioning. I noticed that for some strange reason the "OK" (and also the "Cancel") buttons in the Routing Options menu don't respond to hitting ENTER key on the keyboard. And since iGKeys sends out key strokes there may not be much I can do about it. I tried it on a WinXP and also Win2000 machine with identical result. I will still play with it tomorrow.
The affected hotkeys will be:
Q - Quickest
S - Shortest
J - maJor
L - Local
i - include toll roads
X - X_clude toll roads
I only received iGuidance Europe yesterday, so I didn't have much time to play with it yet. I will try to find more time tomorrow.
I wish there were some Beta testing program in place so these obvious little issues could be avoided in the final product.
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
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Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 24 août 2005 : 14:42:22
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Here is a solution:
I had to modify iguidance.exe file located in C:\Program Files\iNav\iGuidance Europe to correct the unresponsive "OK" and "Cancel" buttons in Route Options menu. I opened iguidance.exe in ResHacker software and navigated to Dialog > 1020 > 2057. Once I was there I looked up the relevant lines and modified them as shown bellow:
Before:
CONTROL "OK", 1, BUTTON, BS_OWNERDRAW | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE, 28, 117, 40, 15
CONTROL "Cancel", 2, BUTTON, BS_OWNERDRAW | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE , 78, 117, 40, 15
After:
CONTROL "OK", 1, BUTTON, BS_OWNERDRAW | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_TABSTOP , 28, 117, 40, 15
CONTROL "Cancel", 2, BUTTON, BS_OWNERDRAW | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_TABSTOP, 78, 117, 40, 15
I realize this is not correcting the bug the proper way, but it is a good temporary solution till the programmers notice it and correct it in future releases.
More info on ResHacker software in iGuidance Customization Ideas thread.
P.S. Please, also download a revised iGkeys I just uploaded. (I didn’t bother changing version number.)
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
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