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PPCJohn
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 Posted - 02 mars 2005 : 15:45:41
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I'm using version 4.50.45.
I've just download the above version - after some problems that were only solved by removing Mapopolis from both the PDA and the PC. However it now seems to work fine with the exception that the programme unexpectedly keeps switching off & occassionally locking.
When it closes the PDA continues as normal, I go to the programme screen and re-open Mapopolis and continue as normal. The unexpected closure happens at random times and using various actions such as zooming in/out, using find, trying to change a map etc. The only semi-consistent thing is that the closure seems to happen if I've not used the programme for a while. IE I've left it running on the PDA and then returned to it to carry out an action and then it just switches off, but not everytime, not even most of the time. I'm sorry this is not much help if I can't replicate the problem, but thought I would report it anyway just in case it was more to do with a conflict between the model of PDA I'm using rather than Mapopolis itself.
The locking problem is possibly even more obscure. I can't point to any particular action I'm doing at the time it locks, but all I know is that since downloading this version of Mapopolis I am have to soft reset my PDA 2 or 3 times a day and each time I do I am using Mapopolis. Before I would only soft reset once or less a week.
John Kelly
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lamar@mapopolis.com
USA
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Posted - 03 mars 2005 : 05:15:00
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Hi, John,
We haven't had any similar reports to support. I wonder how many processes you have running on your Dell. Are you accustomed to shutting down programs in their menus, or do you usually tap the X in the upper right-hand corner?
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PPCJohn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 mars 2005 : 08:30:05
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Hi Lamar,
Thanks for the response, before I reply a small appology. I've posted a similar query in the 'Blue Hawaii' thread. I posted this one whilst at work yesterday, then the other one late last night, mainly because I'd forgotten that I had started a new thread and couldn't find my original post. So sorry about any confusion and waste of anyones time.
Now back to query. I usually keep 'Agenda Fusion' running in background, but switch off all other progs. M'lis is installed on my storage card. In the main memory with AF & M'lis running I have 6.77mb in storage & 16.60mb in program free, without AF it is 6.77mb and 18.34mb free.
I've only had the PDA a few months and have downloaded a fair number of different programs, a lot of which I seldom use. I'll unload some of them to free up the memory and carry on using M'lis. I'll let you know if I'm still getting a problem. Thanks for the advice.
I've posted some queries in another thread (Questions - Maps) to which you've made one response. I've asked subsequent comments/queries about M'lis policies which other users have responded too, with what they think is M'lis position, but a clarification from you of the issues raised would be useful.
John Kelly
Version 4.50.45
Dell Axim X30 624 MHz
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PPCJohn
United Kingdom
43 Posts |
Posted - 04 mars 2005 : 11:53:56
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Hi Lamar,
Have removed some programms and am now running with more than 21mb of free memory (which as its almost a third of the available memory really should be enough), but it still just switches off at random times (incidentally I'm not using the program with a GPS system).
You said that "We haven't had any similar reports to support.", but I notice that Gordias (Page 40 in the 'Blue Hawaii' thread says he is having similar problems and he uses a Dell Axim X5.
John Kelly
Version 4.50.45
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gordias
United Kingdom
137 Posts |
Posted - 01 avr. 2005 : 02:03:08
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Thanks for the reference John! I continued to experience spontaneous closures even after regressing so yesterday I rebuilt my Axim from scratch and reinstalled Mapopolis, only to discover accidentally that I had gone back to .45. I do have a lot more free memory than before so we'll see if it helps.
I will post here again to advise if it shuts down.
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lamar@mapopolis.com
USA
2508 Posts |
Posted - 01 avr. 2005 : 14:59:48
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Hi guys, for what it's worth, I asked the programmers yesterday what could cause the program to spontaneously shut down after it has been running for a while with no problems, and after a brief discussion, they all said, only the OS could do it. If the program was notified to shut down and then exited cleanly without an error, and particularly if it saved the settings and remembered the active folder and map, then it was acting on a system request. The question then becomes, for you Gordias and you John, what is making your Pocket PCs think that they are running so low on resources that they need to close applications.
Lamar
Merciful Father, I have squandered my days with plans of many things. This was not among them. But at this moment, I beg only to live the next few minutes well. |
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gordias
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 avr. 2005 : 17:28:44
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So no unhandled conditions any where in the code? ;-)
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lamar@mapopolis.com
USA
2508 Posts |
Posted - 02 avr. 2005 : 16:23:48
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Hi, Gordias,
Heck, no. There are numerous silent failure modes built into the program, but since they are SILENT failure modes, we don't talk about them. :-)
Lamar
"People in the United States still have a 'Tarzan' movie view of Africa. That's because in the movies all you see are jungles and animals . . . We [too] watch television and listen to the radio and go to dances and fall in love." - Miriam Makeba |
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PPCJohn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 avr. 2005 : 01:16:16
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Hi Lamar, Gordias
Just got back from short trip to Bruges hence slowness of response. I'm still having problems with unexpected shutdowns, but have kept log of what I was doing when programme closed. On each occasion I have not used the programme for sometime, but have kept it running in the background. I was attempting to either drag a map, reduce the magification or using the find feature. With the first two could it be something to do with screen redrawing?
Lamar I noticed your comments about "...particularly if it saved the settings and remembered the active folder and map...". When the programme reopened it was usually at the position where I had opened it prior to doing any changes. IE if I had reduced the amount of detail and zoomed out one level, but it then closed when I attempted to zoom out again, it would reopen as if I had not changed the level of detail or the scale. It therefore was not saving the changed settings.
I usually keep Agenda Fusion open, but even with that closed and only Mapopolis running I still get the unexpected closures. With Mapopolis and Agenda Fusion running I have 15.55 MB of memory in use and 21.27 MB free.
Can I just add that even with this problem I found the programme extremely useful in Bruges. Prior to going I had put in some restrauants and bars, from the guidebooks, as POIs. Although on most occasions we found the place we were looking for without too much trouble, there were two specfic times when we would not have found a particular, out of the way, but highly recommended restrauant and a well hidden bar (De Garres down De Garre Alley) without the aid of Mapopolis.
Incidentally Lamar I've just had Maopopolis close on me. I have just reduced the level of detail to the minimum (ie only motorways showing)and pressed the zoom out button twice, when it just closed. On reopening, the position of the map and level of detail were exactly the same as before I started to reduce the amount of detail shown. I then managed to reduce the level of detail, zoom out, drag the map to Bruges, zoom in, increase the level of detail and find the details of the bar mentioned above, all with no problems.
John Kelly
Version 4.50.45
Dell Axim X30 624 MHz
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