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gpspassion
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davidja
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 Posted - 26 nov. 2002 : 09:48:22
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I ordered the new sleeve, and received it a few weeks ago. It is definately a little faster, but not $150 faster(price difference between NAVMAN). One quirk I ran into on two occasions, was the sleeve GPS stopped working after unplugging the external antenna - almost as if it couldn't switch back properly. After many resets and reseating the cradle, the sleeve worked again. Overall the hardware isn't bad - it's the software that's painfully bad. I'm talking about little quirks that would be easy to fix, but are extremely annoying.
1: the text to speech engine sounds like it is still in the beta stage as it is very difficult to understand (especially the female voice). According to Travroute, they are no longer supporting the wav. file voice prompts.
2: the voice notification for making a turn assumes you are ready to make the turn the second you hear it. Travroute says there is no user adjustable settings here.
3: many times after returning to my car, I had to perform a warm boot of the IPAQ the get the GPS working again.
4: the ETA is only available in driver mode and only when not approaching a side street. I can't see why they can't make the ETA accessible in passenger mode.
5: the navigational routes it chooses on tried and true routes I take are different, and take me out of the way.
6: the vent mount is difficult to adjust and see while driving depending on your car design. I think the windshield mount was a superior choice.
Overall, I'm not to happy for a $349 GPS system.
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gpspassion
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Posted - 26 nov. 2002 : 10:09:12
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
My impressions are somewhat similar about the software, alhtouhg the little quirks don't prevent it from being the best long-distance routing solution IMHO.
As for the hardware, I don't think you can say it's not worth $150. The Free Navman sleeve offer was rather exceptional, and $150 for a receiver of that caliber (IIe/LP chipset, CF Slot, dc plug, antenna plug, etc...) is a real bargain IMHO.
I didn't notice that antenna problem you mention alhtough I had to use pliers to remove it safely!
1. Yes, I'm disappointed that the .wav prompts are gone. I'm not a big fan of TTS as I have yet to see a good solution using TTS. PocketMap is a bit better in this respect.
2. True the come fairly late, but I haven't missed a turn yet. The big arrows help!
3. Haven't noticed that, in fact it seemed to be the only solution I've tested that didn't require soft resets upon restart. I'll check this
4. Yes, and ETA is only available if you're far away enough (0.7+ miles?) and possibly over a certain speed. It's ok on the open road, it's not in town. I think they could remove some of the automatisms built in the software, but I know they're concerned that people will be fiddling with the settings (like I would) and possibly become dangerous to themselves and others on the road. Difficult decision.
5. That's always going to happen ;-) The beauty of CoPilot is its waypoint feature that lets you force some roads you like and still benefit from active guidance. This is crucial for long distance driving IMHO.
6. Yes, I can't fit it in either of my cars. I've asked if they knew of a way to use a succion cup. Right now I use the Navman mount and rest the vent mount to it...surprisingly enough it works!
keep the comemnts/suggestions coming!
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Razl
USA
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Posted - 26 nov. 2002 : 15:55:50
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Thank you booth for your detailed input on the software/hardware. I'm trying to decide between these two sleeves too. With the "slimmer" sleeve and its advanced chipset, do you find the free external antenna necessary in day to day use?
I'm not a fan of the windshield because I want an unobstructive view (plus I have a radar detector taking up some space) so I would be mounting it mid to lower dash. At this position, directly above the handheld/sleeve would be the hood of my car, not windshield. |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 26 nov. 2002 : 17:32:02
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It really comes down to your budget. There's little argument that the new sleeve is better than the old one on all counts (except maybe the mount) but I must say that the Free Navman offer is hard to pass on. I've been happy with the Navman but a lot of people have really trashed it like there's "no tomorrow".
You can read my thoughts on this "issue" here:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46
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gpspassion
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Posted - 26 nov. 2002 : 17:32:06
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It really comes down to your budget. There's little argument that the new sleeve is better than the old one on all counts (except maybe the mount) but I must say that the Free Navman offer is hard to pass on. I've been happy with the Navman but a lot of people have really trashed it like there's "no tomorrow".
You can read my thoughts on this "issue" here:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46
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flymhi
USA
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Posted - 27 nov. 2002 : 16:28:54
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I just ordered the new sleeve and wondered if the battery claims are true? Will the new chipset save on the battery? Also, since there is a battery in the sleeve, can the Ipaq utilize this?
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gpspassion
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Posted - 27 nov. 2002 : 18:23:46
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yes the claim is true, battery life on my 3670 has increased about 40% and is comparable to the Holux although it does even better wuth no backlight doe some reason.
The battery inside is just for backup of satellite data so it can't be used by the iPaq.
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bk1106
USA
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Posted - 27 nov. 2002 : 21:10:57
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Hi,
Thanks for working on the review. A couple of questions:
1) Is the new sleeve compatible with Smart ST?
2) If Transplant has any plans to sell the sleeve alone?
3) If yes, When? If not, Why?
4) I seem to read somewhere that the Navman sleeve bundled with Copilot 3.0 can only be used with CoPilot software. Is this true? That will limit the potential of that free sleeve.
5) Is the Navman sleeve bundled in Navman 3420 also limited to the Smart ST software?
Thanks,
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gpspassion
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Posted - 27 nov. 2002 : 21:27:57
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I took the liberty of numbering your questions to make sure I respond to all of them ;-)
1) No, SmartST only works with the Navman sleeve
2) Yes
3) Dunno ;-) You could try asking them
4) No not true, where did you read that? No incompatibilities I'm aware of
5) No, see 4)
Obviously a tough call between a free Navman sleeve and a $150 next generation sleeve. Hopefully that "free Navman" offer won't last too much longer to clarify the field ;-)
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bk1106
USA
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Posted - 27 nov. 2002 : 23:56:47
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Thanks for your clarification.
Don't worry about the wrong info in my questions. It just goes to show how confusing things can be when we try to figure out a mis-matched pair, hoping for that to come closer to what we want.
Needless to say, the new sleeve is strong but I also like the SmartST software, particularly its presentation. If I can't get the two to work together (limited by Smart ST) then I will want to know the basic quality and maturity assessments of the new sleeve with CoPilot v3.5(?). TTFF, bugs and bug like features would be high on my list. It would be particularly useful if you would contrast your assessments against the Navman sleeve. Thank you.
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sting0r
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Posted - 18 déc. 2002 : 16:23:45
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| How do you like it compared to the EMTAC Bluetooth GPS. For all of you with the old sleeve Travroute is offering a 199 upgrade price to the new sleeve and new software. I decided to buy the new sleeve figuring I can always sell it later and get the bluetooth version. |
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sting0r
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Posted - 18 déc. 2002 : 16:29:10
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| one other thing...I had a lot of problems with my old sleeve and the copilot software....I always got an error signal found send reinit or some crap. I hope this one is much better. Also how is the signal for this sleeve? I read that the bluetooth gps can work in doors and even inside your glove compartment. Is the reception that good on the new sleeve? I hope so.... |
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gpspassion
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sting0r
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Posted - 18 déc. 2002 : 17:32:52
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| I am anxiously awaiting it..... Hopefully I can read it before I got my new one tommorrow..... |
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sting0r
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Posted - 19 déc. 2002 : 14:04:50
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| Great Review....I am getting mine hopefully within the next hour and I will let you know what I think. As long as the sensativity is better then the old one I will be more then happy..... |
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