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gpspassion

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Posted - 17 juin 2003 :  01:40:41  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Updated 07/08

A brief overview of the pros and cons:
+ Superb User Interface
+ Fast routing/re-routing
- Poor map and Instruction List modes
- No Intersecting/current street info

There is also an issue with the routes calculated by TomTom Navigator.


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Just got my test version of TomTom USA!
Before a review is posted at the end of the month or early next month, feel free to ask any questions and I'll post thoughts and various links.

See how the maps are cut here:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/platform/extra_info.php?Extra_Page=31&Language=4&ID=208

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rem

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Posted - 18 juin 2003 :  04:21:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How do you feel about TomTom vs Netropa? I haven't played with TomTom at all and wondered what your initial thoughts are. Assuming that both progs have good map data, GUI's and presentation? And, most important, will there be any deals on TomTom USA thru this forum?

Edited by - rem on 18 juin 2003 04:22:07
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gpspassion

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Posted - 18 juin 2003 :  10:34:06  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Most important ;-) yes, there should be deals, I'll know for sure in a few days!

1. TomTom has a wonderfully "fluid" UI where Netropa's is a bit "delayed".
2. Map data is TeleAtlas vs NavTech, so that means more details outside dense areas, but also more inaccuracies and outdated data
3. My current concern is that on my US test routes, TomTom didn't do very well producing poor resuts compared with all other existing US solutions. Can't figure out why because routing is top notch in Europe and the TeleAtlas is also used by PMN.

Feel free to chime in with other specific questions, I'll rename that thread.


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wallstreet123456

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Posted - 18 juin 2003 :  16:44:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will you mention your problems with routing to TomTOm and see what they say?
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gpspassion

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Posted - 18 juin 2003 :  20:21:34  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I had started to describe them by email, but they directed me to their feedback form and I haven't had a chance to enter the data there yet, here it is BTW - http://www.tomtom.com/feedback/

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ZappCatt

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Posted - 19 juin 2003 :  00:38:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PPC GPS Software reviews...
There are a couple of items I would love to see added to the software reviews.

1) How are the Maps organized? a)County by County b) East/West US, c) State by State
2) Is there a choice to "make your own maps"
3) Is there any limitation on the amount of maps you can have loaded at once? Does the software support "dynamic loading of maps"
4) How do you go about creating the route/figuring out what maps you need?
For example. Mapopolis is county by county. I would like to drive from SF to LA..How the HECK would I figure out how many/which counties I would go through? What limitations would I hit 20M? etc..
5)Compare price/performance/features/value. I know that this is subjective..
For example, Mapopolis Navigator is $99..but I would also need the POI data which adds $25. TomTom Navigator is going to be $199..drastically more expensive..Routis is $99...PocketMap Navigator is $80(sorry Eli!!!). etc.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by - ZappCatt on 19 juin 2003 06:35:02
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gpspassion

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Posted - 19 juin 2003 :  01:20:39  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the suggestions ;-)
By combining
- the overview - http://www.gpspassion.com/en/software/NavOverview.htm
- the list - http://www.gpspassion.com/en/software/Nav_Comp_e.htm
- the reviews - http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=28
you should get there, but your points are well taken!

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EliFrmPocketMap

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Posted - 19 juin 2003 :  04:33:48  Show Profile  Visit EliFrmPocketMap's Homepage  Reply with Quote
PocketMap Navigator (PMN), for the record, has always been selling
at $79.95. We have the front banneron GPSpassion to prove it :-)
http://www.gpspassion.com/pics/banner/PMNBannerAd_01.gif

Taking pricing into consideration is a very good point. I am sure
the readers would like to see that in the reviews too!

Peace,
EliFrmPocketMap

PocketMap Navigator, the most advanced personal navigator on planet earth.

We are shipping PocketMap Navigator R2.11!
www.pocketmapstore.com
www.pocketmap.com

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gman

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Posted - 19 juin 2003 :  20:55:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gpspassion

Most important ;-) yes, there should be deals, I'll know for sure in a few days!

1. TomTom has a wonderfully "fluid" UI where Netropa's is a bit "delayed".
2. Map data is TeleAtlas vs NavTech, so that means more details outside dense areas, but also more inaccuracies and outdated data
3. My current concern is that on my US test routes, TomTom didn't do very well producing poor resuts compared with all other existing US solutions. Can't figure out why because routing is top notch in Europe and the TeleAtlas is also used by PMN.

Feel free to chime in with other specific questions, I'll rename that thread.

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How outdated is the TeleAtlas data?

I sure hope you can give us a full TomTom review before the end of the month, since that is when the 50% discount offer ends!
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gpspassion

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Posted - 19 juin 2003 :  22:43:53  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'll work on that, but right now I'm "hammered"...
It's hard to "date" map data as it's easy for map manufacturers to work hard on largely populated areas to please the largest number of people. That's what TeleAtlas did in France recently. Useful, but when you drive out to the country side, well..., my wife almost had a nervous breakdown after one too many unplanned dirt roads!

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rancho1

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Posted - 22 juin 2003 :  01:16:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

That's so sad that the map data and routing are poor, yet the interface and other features are nice.
Sounds like Pocket CoPilot all over again!
No one company can seem to get together a great interface without population limits or memory management problems along with good maps and routing in one package.
Looks like the best you can do is to install both Mapopolis for driving around town with accurate and up to date street directions in the city and use CoPilot Live for driving long distances without population or memory management concerns.

Edited by - rancho1 on 22 juin 2003 01:22:11
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gpspassion

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Posted - 22 juin 2003 :  09:46:11  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
1. Routing - More testing shows that you can get good routes by using the "alternative route" function, which is better than nothing, but kind of defeats the purpose of routing inthe first place...
2. Map data - I wouldn't say it's poor? It should be the same as PMN's (except MUCH more compressed probably with loss of data too) 212mb for PMN and 66mb for TomTom!
3. Yup no perfect solution, eh! TomTom could be a contender but map management is lacking for VERY long distance or if you happen to live on the "tip" of one of their pre-cut maps (like Destinator).
4. I still think that Intellinav is the best "overall" solution as you get a super UI, NavTech maps and can "build" your regions (within the current RAM usage limitaions of course). If they can fix the RAM errors caused by loading the highway grids by loading that data dynamically like they do for detailed data (and also offer "corridor" cutting like CoPilot), they've got it made ;-)

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wallstreet123456

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Posted - 23 juin 2003 :  16:20:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just ordered my TomTom software, they mentione the products have just arrived in customs at NY and will be shipped later this week.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 23 juin 2003 :  16:31:40  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
was that a special 50% deal?

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wallstreet123456

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Posted - 23 juin 2003 :  16:37:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes it was.

HEre is TomTOm response to updated maps.

Steve:

When the product ships we will also have a website established with Teleatlas
that will allow consumers to go online and enter map discrepanices directly to
them.  The maps are being constanly updated and many changes have occurred since
the initial field testing began,  While there is probably no way to ensure that
the maps will be 100% accurate, we are striving to make them as complete as we
can.  As I mentioned there will be updated maps available on a regular basis.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 23 juin 2003 :  16:48:09  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hehe...while there's nothing "incorrect" about that "map update" statement, it doesn't make any commitments either (availability, format, price, etc...);-)

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