| Versions |
  |
|
| Author |
 Topic  |
|
igurevich38
USA
758 Posts |
 Posted - 07 déc. 2004 : 20:14:52
|
Since Microsoft is not coming out with MapPoint 2005 the users of MapPoint will end up with outdated maps for a year until version 2006 comes out. But you can update the map data to the latest using S&T.
Here is the procedure on how to use the new map data that comes with Streets and Trips 2005 in MapPoint 2004.
Make sure MapPoint is not running and you have S&T 2005 installed on your PC.
1) MapPoint data files are stored in this folder:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft MapPoint\Data
There are 15 files there, including a file called USADemo.mdb which contains the demographic data that only comes with mapPoint and not S&T.
2) S&T data files are stored in this folder:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Streets and Trips\Data
There are 14 files there. All are the same as with MapPoint except USADemo.mdb is missing.
3) Copy all 14 files from C:\Program Files\Microsoft Streets and Trips\Data into C:\Program Files\Microsoft MapPoint\Data and override the existing files. PLEASE BACK THE ORIGINALS FIRST JUST IN CASE.
4) Now you should have 16 files in the C:\Program Files\Microsoft MapPoint\Data, because you have the old USADemo.mdb left and also there are now 2 Construction data files (called something like ConstructionA3042622.dat) since they all have different names based on their release date.
5) You can delete the older of these 2 Construction ... .dat files. It will get updated anyway when you automatically update your construction data from the Route menu. After you delete the old DAT file you should have 15 files again in this folder.
6) Restart MapPoint and it should load without any problems.
7) You can now uninstall S&T 2005 since you don't need it anymore.
You can do the same procedure with the EU version of MapPoint and AutoRoute 2005.
So for just about $15-25 you can purchase S&T 2005 and get completely new map data for MapPoint and for another $10 you can purchase the Advanced GPS plugin for MapPoint and have all the GPS Navigation features you ever wanted, much more than what S&T 2005 offers. |
Edited by - igurevich38 on 07 déc. 2004 20:32:59
|
|
|
Ads
|
|
|
gpspassion
84981 Posts |
|
|
Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 07 déc. 2004 : 20:29:08
|
Excellent! Thanks Igurevich38!
We should make this "sticky", at least till MapPoint 2006 comes out. In the past I did this with MP 2002 and S&T 03. It worked well. Then when S&T 04 came out a little bit ahead of MP 04, I tried it again to update MP 02 with S&T 04 data but it didn't work anymore. I'm glad to hear that it works now between MP 04 and S&T 05.
---
Regards,
Marvin Hlavac
Toronto, Canada |
 |
|
|
igurevich38
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 07 déc. 2004 : 20:29:55
|
I was trying to look for that, but I don't notice anything significant around where I live. It seems in Canada there is a lot more stuff now. Also, in downtown Boston there are a whole bunch of dashed lines going across streets, which I think are referring to the Big Dig, but I am not sure. May be someone who knows of missing streets can post and will check.
I kept both installs so I can check both. |
Edited by - igurevich38 on 07 déc. 2004 20:32:01 |
|
|
|
gpspassion
84981 Posts |
Posted - 07 déc. 2004 : 20:35:21
|
Sticky it is ;-)
To keep going on the OT, now that we have quite a few "sticky" topics, maybe we could have an index for the MS section to have one easy to find sticky ;-)
You can put links to the threads and I can format it later on.
On the maps, sounds good for Canada, did you try going back to some of your comparisons from the PMN review for instance?
___________________________________________
Discounts and Assistance/Réductions et Assistance (Club GpsPasSion)
Best "GPS" PocketPC/Choisir un PDA ou un Kit "GPS" / Où commencer? |
|
|
|
igurevich38
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 08 déc. 2004 : 06:56:29
|
| I couldn't find any area that I know in the US where I noticed a significant map update with 2005 data. I am sure I am looking in the wrong spot. However in Canada it was very easy to find. Zoom in on Alberta down to 18 km level and beyond. Now there are streets and roads, and also they fixed the bug where lakes and rivers used to disappear at high zoom levels in 2004 data. So now all of them look good. I'll post some pics later. Definitely worth upgrading the data. |
|
|
|
ve7mdt
Canada
138 Posts |
Posted - 18 déc. 2004 : 22:36:14
|
Excellent find. I was wondering about that myself, since older versions have been using this trick in the past already.
However, I'd still keep S&T2005 due to the Direction Up feature, which is not available on MapPoint 2004.
Now I wonder if one can install both in the same directory, and thus can share the directory for the large file space, it's 1GB to be duplicated! (Or use some remapping utility/command?).
If I get some time I'll try it out, but my notebook has lots of space left, so it is not urgent for me.
Another thing is that MapPoint requires W2K and above to run.
Thanks for the tip.
Garmin eTrex Venture
Rand McNally "mouse"
Clarion AutoPC GPS Odessey 2000
Magellan Springboard GPS on Visor 2MB
Haicom 303S + 401BT (manufacturer's defective, in RMA process) Bluetooth + Dell Axim X30H
Sotec 3120X, SonicBlue FrontPath 1050SE tablet
Mainly using: Routis 2004, Mapopolis, MapPoint 2004, Delorme Deluxe, AAA Map'n'Go 7, Streets & Trips 2005 |
|
|
|
Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 20 déc. 2004 : 22:35:13
|
VE7MDT - very interesting idea, if you try it let us know if it works.
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
|
|
|
bigdaddyblues
7 Posts |
Posted - 22 déc. 2004 : 22:41:53
|
I copied S&T files over to MapPoint before I checked and I found missing POIs and streets in S&T that MapPoint 2004 has.
I don't know how to insert images but if you put this address in the find box in both programs. 118 Dolphin St,Swansboro,NC
S&T has missing POIs and streets.
What caught my eye was the file size of the USA_CD file.
Mappoint 2004 is 613,838 KB
Streets & Trips 2005 is 496,699 KB.
If you enter in the find Sugars,Havelock,NC
Streets & Trips added more POIs but Cunningham Dr doesn't connect with Cunningham Blvd anymore.
You win some and you lose some.
PS, I do have my Show and Hide all checked.
bigdaddy |
|
|
|
igurevich38
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 22 déc. 2004 : 22:50:50
|
| I was wondering about the size of files also. I thought they had a better method of compression for 2005. But may be not. |
|
|
|
Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 22 déc. 2004 : 23:13:34
|
Some of the file size difference is also likely attributable to the fact that the older 2004 version includes 6.7 million miles of streets and highways while the newer version 2005 includes 5.4 (!) million miles.
Still, for users who need MP it is great to know MP is updatable with this S&T data. The missing road coverage is likely in some remote areas (please do not attack me for saying that  ) Over all map data is one year newer and we now have approximately 40% more POI's.
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
|
|
|
igurevich38
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 22 déc. 2004 : 23:38:37
|
| Really??? They took out 1.3 million miles of road? Is this also the difference bewteen S&T 2004 and S&T 2005, or only between MP 2004 & S&T 2005? Can you please post how many miles are in each version. I thought MP and S&T have exactly the same street data and the only difference is customization. Is that not true? |
|
|
|
Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 23 déc. 2004 : 00:06:04
|
You are right: MP 2004 and S&T 2004 have the same streets, highways, POI's...
But, and I read from my old cover box of S&T 04: "Featuring over 6.7 million miles of streets and highways and over 1.3 million points of interest..."
And my new S&T 05 box reads: "Featuring over 5.4 million miles of streets and highways and over 1.8 million points of interest..."
At first I couldn't believe it myself either... but shortly after S&T came out I heard users reporting missing streets... I possible explanation would be something that Gpspassion suggested some time ago: maybe Microsoft tries to go NavTeq only. If that is the case we will have to wait till NavTeq acquires missing data. (With NavTeq at least we are in good hands ;-)
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
|
|
|
igurevich38
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 23 déc. 2004 : 01:22:54
|
| If you go the Credits in the help file, it used to list Navteq, GDT, and a bunch of other companies. I am curious if any of them are suddenly missing in the 2005 version. |
|
|
|
Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 23 déc. 2004 : 02:11:37
|
On both 04 and 05 boxes I only see NavTeq and GDT. But you are right that the help file should reveal more info. The best would be to have an answer straight from MS. Rather than guessing I'll try to e-mail them if I find the time. If I receive a reply I will post here. There must be an answer to where the 1.3 million miles of streets and highways have gone.
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
|
|
|
Marvin Hlavac
Canada
6817 Posts |
Posted - 31 déc. 2004 : 00:10:42
|
I just received a phone call from MS (PR dept.) and the verdict seems to be that the 5.4 million miles of roads in the new 2005 version is a more accurate number. MS reports miles of roads that data providers report to MS, but some data sets from different data providers may contain duplicate roads, some roads might have been counted more then once and that might have accounted for most of the 1.3 million difference.
It does make sense, even though some areas seem to have worse coverage, I do see improvement in coverage in other areas. 1.3 million would be 20%, that is just too big of a number...
He said he was not aware of MS dropping a map data provider(s).
Marvin Hlavac - Toronto, Canada |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
|
|
| This page was generated in 0,5 seconds. |
 |
|
- 
del.icio.us
How to use Map data from S&T 2005 in MapPoint 2004
