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Spartiatis

Greece
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Posted - 26 avr. 2012 :  22:41:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Congratulations for your forum which I see answers a lot of questions to LOTS of its members.

I am riding a HONDA CBR 1000 '04 bike and recently bought the GPS Tracker TK103-B off of E-bay with two remotes, siren & shock sensor.

Works EXCELLENT, very accurate responds quickly BUT -unfrtunately there must always be a "BUT"- after having left the bike for 4 days, the battery was "DEAD", drained out, less than 9V...

I clutch started it took it for a long ride and measured and it was back to 12.4V.

After two days I went measured again and it was down to 11.3V...More than 1V in 2 days (!!)

Connected in a series with the negative a voltmeter switced it to Amps and measured 6mA... I know it's a lot. I removed the fuse from the GPS tracker and meter went to "0" flat, therefore allowing me to think that the problem is due to the alarm system...

My question is this: Is it normal for such a HIGH power consumption???

Has anyone faced such a problem before?

Looking forward to your replies...

~Spartiatis ( A Spartan from the 300)

Dress for the fall, not for the ride...

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RC200

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Posted - 27 avr. 2012 :  17:10:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
6mA is nothing.

TK103B is about 50mA all the time ......
You should double-check the current drawn once you are GSM attached and GPS fix.
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Spartiatis

Greece
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Posted - 27 avr. 2012 :  20:11:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RC200

6mA is nothing.

TK103B is about 50mA all the time ......
You should double-check the current drawn once you are GSM attached and GPS fix.





Hi,

I have probably confused the measurement.

The multimeter reads 0.06 when the knob on it is set at 10A....So what makes the reading be? 60 OR 6mA??? Too many 0's confuse me...




thank you...

Dress for the fall, not for the ride...
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barbudor

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Posted - 28 avr. 2012 :  21:00:07  Show Profile  Visit barbudor's Homepage  Reply with Quote
0.06A makes 60mA

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Spartiatis

Greece
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Posted - 28 avr. 2012 :  21:14:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and that is A LOT right?

the bike's battery dies out in 2-3 days....


AND the most important I forgot to mention....It doesn't reset neither with the red button nor with the SMS... probably it's a faulty item right?

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RC200

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Posted - 03 mai 2012 :  16:00:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As already mentioned above, 50m-60mA is normal current consumption for TK103B and many other trackerS.
AFAIK, TK103 family doesn't support sleep mode that would reduce the current to about 5mA in GSM mode (no GPRS !).
So, for TK103B, GSM or GPRS network attached + GPS fix = 50mA total all the time.

What's the current capacity of your bike, 6Ah ? 10Ah ? so, don't be surprised your battery is flat after few days.

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Spartiatis

Greece
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Posted - 03 mai 2012 :  23:25:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi
thank you for your reply,
It's for a CBR 1000RR 2004 bike it has a YTZ10S GEL battery and 2-3 days maximum is the amount that is enough to bring down the voltage to less than 11.5V which makes the bike IMPOSSIBLE to start....

ISNT THERE A WAY TO MAKE THE TRACKER CONSUME LESS POWER? to change something in it to make it less consuming???

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RC200

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Posted - 04 mai 2012 :  09:02:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Basically, there's no way to reduce power consumption.
There're some ways to circumvent the power consumption:
_make an additional small electronic board that switches on and off periodically the tracker (!)
_change the tracker for a 102 or 104 model

Some info I got:
[4/25/2012 10:36:18 AM] Me: Which model has sleep mode ?
[4/25/2012 10:39:40 AM] a.Winni COBAN: GPS102B and GPS104
[4/25/2012 10:40:18 AM] Me: and GPS106B ?
[4/25/2012 10:40:43 AM] a.Winni COBAN: all trackers need connect external power does not have sleep mode

Note: apparently, YTZ10S GEL is 8.6Ah, so no surprise about the draining.

Edited by - RC200 on 04 mai 2012 09:11:17
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Spartiatis

Greece
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Posted - 04 mai 2012 :  14:50:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sold it today to someone who will use it on his car...

I am going to buy the TK104 which lasts much much longer without charging, and 4mAh power consumption...

I will instal it somewhere and press only the button ON/OFF to activate/deactivate... it falls asleep after 5 minutes and drops down to 4mAh consumption. Nothing.

Put GEO-fence and get a message if bike leaves those coordinates...

I think it's a very good idea...

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Talkiet

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Posted - 24 août 2012 :  03:26:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's difficult to get accurate information in English given how quickly the models change and the availability of so many copies, so perhaps you can help with my question about sleep mode on the TK104.

Will the TK104 tracker only go into sleep mode (~4mA) when it is being powered by the internal battery? I have one sitting on my desk, being powered by a car battery and have a multimeter measuring the current. It started 30 minutes ago at about 120mA, and has steadily reduced to about 12mA. I presume this is because it is constantly charging the battery.

I would further assume then that even if the device itself goes into sleep mode, I will always have a charging load on the car battery - This will get low - maybe down to 10mA, but never down to the 4mA advertised for the sleep mode?

If this is the case I will wire the unit into the ACCessory line, rather than permanent 12V.

Regards
Neil G
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RC200

70 Posts

Posted - 24 août 2012 :  09:07:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The sleep mode should be tested this way:
remove the battery or move the switch on the the tracker not to used the battery
plug 12V external power and use amperemeter in serie
attach tracker to GSM network (GPRS when active drains more current !) and get GPS fix
enable sleep mode by sending the right command to the tracker
wait ....

4mA is unbelievable, 10mA sounds good, but having the battery in the loop jeopardizes the result, please redo.
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