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NanaimoRick

Canada
7762 Posts

Posted - 07 févr. 2012 :  18:51:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Garmin has released City Navigator North America 2012.40 today.

It appears to be a phased in update with some users seeing the availability via myMaps and others not. I couldn't see it from there or the Lifetime Update program but selecting Download from the Map Updates section of myDashboard and then picking Option 2, resulted in the new maps being downloaded to my 3790.

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danham

USA
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Posted - 07 févr. 2012 :  19:03:34  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Any word on Junction View with this update?

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alandb

483 Posts

Posted - 07 févr. 2012 :  20:37:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On 755T, JCV file for CN NA 2012.40 is D3060050A.JCV, 793,866,066 bytes. I am still downloading the update for my 855 nuvi, but am guessing I will get a smaller JCV file for that unit since it is short on internal storage ... will let you know.

Alan - nuvi's - 3597LMTHD 855 755T, Oregon 550, Lowrance Endura Sierra
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danham

USA
7448 Posts

Posted - 07 févr. 2012 :  20:43:47  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Alan -- I hope to try it with my zumo 660 later today or tomorrow.

-dan

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alandb

483 Posts

Posted - 07 févr. 2012 :  21:09:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As expected, the 2012.40 JCV file on my 855 as downloaded is D3153050A.JCV at 46,030,907 bytes. Of course I will replace it with the larger JCV file downloaded on the 755T.

Alan - nuvi's - 3597LMTHD 855 755T, Oregon 550, Lowrance Endura Sierra
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gtreal

109 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  01:31:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Garmin Weird: my 755 has been offered the update (currently installing), but not my 775. Oh, well... as long as one of them has the latest maps, the other can wait. No biggie.
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WAASup

Canada
118 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  01:37:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Downloaded 2012.40 Canada and border states. The JCV file D3153050A.JCV is 43.8M. After a quick look, doesn't seem to be any new speed limit data for Toronto GTA.
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NanaimoRick

Canada
7762 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  03:09:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Junction View file for the 3790, with split screen views in Landscape and Portrait mode is 460012KB.

I agree Waasup, there doesn't seem to be much more speed limit data for Canada. Since we are in Arizona for the winter, I'm hoping there is some updated speed data there as I've noticed a number of differences between actual speed limits and what the Nuvi is showing lately.

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lacibaci

USA
34 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  05:24:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Installed on 755T. JCV file is 757 MB.
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geobernd

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  06:10:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone have a link for the 755T .JCV file - I want to upgrade my subscription but not use the measly JCV file that comes with it...
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JimD

USA
132 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  14:00:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A 755 should get the larger file when you update the map as long as you have ~800MB of space available. You might have to take off the language files you do not use to have this much but it should be possible. Others are reporting success.

The 8x5 series do not have space due to the files they use for the voice control.

Jim
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brianna007

83 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  15:54:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I clicked check for updates on the Lifetime updater program. It installed everything perfectly. But I am a little disappointed I actually had to click check for updates myself and the program did not do it for me.
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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  16:21:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm in the process of updating my 1690 (2GB) now. I chose option 2 and d/l the mapupdater file. Upon execution of that and going through the process, I chose the red font option (full mapset) and up popped a window offering me the option to use an SD card. Never noticed this option before. So I'm currently installing it to both the computer and the device... and 60 minutes into the process and it's done.

Originally, I'd planned to put just a local mapset on my device and load the full mapset and the large JV to the SD card. It now appears that the updater is smart enough to recognize that an SD card is installed to the device. Unfortunately, the updater only loaded the small 44k JCV file and put it on my device, not the SD card. So I need to find the large JCV file... especially now that I have 1.5GB free space on the device. ;)




-speedy

Edited by - speedlever on 08 févr. 2012 16:21:37
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danham

USA
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Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  19:44:46  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My 760, with no card, only offered US & Canada and of course no JCV file. That all makes sense.

My zumo 660 however has a card and I got no options. Maybe that's because both the big JCV file and the top choice of all of NA fit with no problem?

-dan

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WAASup

Canada
118 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  20:26:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@danham, when I installed 2012.40 Canada on my 1490 there were no options. I just finished installing US & Canada to the SD card. I'm guessing that there has to be insufficient space on the device (indicated by the red text in Map Install menu) before you can use the SD card.
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danham

USA
7448 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  20:34:16  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks; makes sense.

-dan

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Puffins Nest

33 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  21:55:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Updated the maps on the 3490lmt. Took between 1 to 2 hours. I used option 2 and loaded to the device and the computer. The Junction View file was the same as Rick mentioned for the 3790 at 460012. By the way I just completed a 15,000km trip using the 3490 to Ottawa, Toronto, Washington, DC, Baltimore & Phillie and many destinations in Florida without a hitch. The traffic updates worked flawlessly. One incident took me by surprise when a fire truck passed us with sirens blaring and within a minute or two, traffic update flashed 'Fire 1.4 mi. ahead' on the screen.
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gemro311

USA
298 Posts

Posted - 08 févr. 2012 :  22:27:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just updated my "ancient" 760 ..went without a hitch..although it took almost 3 hours . Very happy to see Mapsource is still being updated. Next up is the 1450LMT

Nuvi 3597LMTHD and HTC One M8
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hpatlik

1157 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  00:25:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have cleared out all unnecessary files on my Nuvi 760 but I can only load Canada/North USA or East Canada/US. Is the full Can/US map now too large to fit into the internal memory.

HPatlik
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danham

USA
7448 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  00:53:53  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just put all of US & Canada on my 760 a few hours ago. Don't have the file size handy, but it fit.

-dan

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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  01:42:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I show the 2012.40 full mapset to be 1.58GB. The JCV file I got is the small one at 44,xxx KB. The mapset file size does not include the JCV file. My 1690 has 1.54 GB free, so the mapset is installed on my microSD card.


-speedy

Edited by - speedlever on 09 févr. 2012 01:43:26
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davidosus

Canada
68 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  03:34:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just updated my 755T. It has 1.45 GB available.

Despite that the larger junction view was not downloaded; I have D3153050A.JCV, not D3060050A.JCV.

I've tried reinstalling to no avail... I still get the smaller file.

How does the updater decide which to install?

Where may I download the larger D3060050A.JCV?

nüvi 755T: Software Version 4.50 - GPS SW Version 2.90 - City Navigator North America 2014.30

Edited by - davidosus on 09 févr. 2012 04:20:03
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kc1ih

USA
58 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  06:25:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I’m using the Lifetime Updater for Mac (running Lion 10.7.3), and it downloaded the maps for my 250 just fine. I knew I would need to use an SD card to get the whole thing installed, but the option to insert an SD card is grayed out and cannot be selected. I tried inserting the card anyway and it is still grayed out.

So I decided just to install the East to the device and then use map install to put the western states and provinces on the card as I have done in the past. But I just wanted to be able to have it automatically install the complete thing to the device + card so I could just start it and go to sleep.

So, anyone have any idea why the selection to insert an SD card was grayed out, and what I can do to prevent this in the future?

Thanks for your help.

Larry

Larry
Lake Wobegone, NH
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kc1ih

USA
58 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  06:48:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now I’m stuck. After installing 2012.40 East on my 250, I went to use Mapinstall to put the rest on the card. Only problem, the dropdown in Mapinstall only showed maps available thru 2012.3. I have the lifetime updater set to download maps to both the device and the computer, but it appears it is not doing so. Arggggh!

Larry
Lake Wobegone, NH
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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  10:53:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why don't you try it using option 2 (Map update)?



I quit using the Lifetime updater because it caused problems for my Garmin Edge 305. Perhaps Garmin has fixed that issue, I don't know. But I see no reason to go back to it with the ease of using the Map update option. That's where I saw the option to use the SD card.

Windows 7/64 HP on a Sandy Bridge PC.


-speedy

Edited by - speedlever on 09 févr. 2012 14:43:46
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beetle-m

Poland
265 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  12:02:36  Show Profile  Visit beetle-m's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just only FYI: CN Europe 2012.40 also available (dated: 08-02-2012).

mariusz
nüvi 3490T (105-01652-00), nüvi 760 (006-B0754-00) & still 250W (006-B0737-00)
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danham

USA
7448 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  14:12:19  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@Larry:

Count me among the ranks of those who gave up on the Lifetime Updater for Mac. It is buggy and unpredictable and the other method works really well. You should be able to verify whether the new map ever made it to your Mac and if not do the download again using method 2.

Look in ~/Library/Application Support/Garmin/Maps. You will need to use the Go --> Go To Folder command to view the Library, as it is hidden by default in Lion.

-dan

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WAASup

Canada
118 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  15:08:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regarding the small D3153050A.JCV file for 2012.40, Garmin seems to have done some JV voodoo. Using member @Lilla's test routes, I get 6 JV's for the US Atlanta route, and 3 JV's for the Canada route. With the large 2012.30 JCV file, there were 6 Atlanta and 4 Canada JV's.

Also, using @Nanaimo Rick's Toronto test route from 3500 Dufferin to Pearson airport, there are 4 JV's with 2012.40 compared to 5 with the large 2012.30 JCV.
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danham

USA
7448 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  15:31:25  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Very interesting. My test route -- Cape Cod to NYC -- held steady at 13 comparing the old "big" JCV (which was a special download) to the new big one installed by the update on my zumo.

-dan

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WAASup

Canada
118 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  17:32:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting... I get 9 JV's with the small D3153050A.JCV for Cape Cod to NYC (using "Cities" option, P'Town to NYC).

Edited by - WAASup on 09 févr. 2012 17:34:15
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danham

USA
7448 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  18:12:18  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not statistically valid [grin]. For the past few years, to test JCVs I have been using the route from my house in Harwich to my son's place in Brooklyn, so I'll bet the 4 extras are on the BQE.

-dan

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WAASup

Canada
118 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  19:52:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
True, though the statistics still seem to show many JV's happening with the small JCV file
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danham

USA
7448 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  20:14:41  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And that is excellent news -- just had to crack wise.

-dan

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WAASup

Canada
118 Posts

Posted - 09 févr. 2012 :  22:54:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Read on another forum that the large 757MB D3060050A.JCV file is available for download now from Garmin:

http://download.garmin.com/support/2012_40/NA/JV/D3060050A.JCV
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bobwadd

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  00:37:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Update is still NOT showing up in Garmin Lifetime Updater. Although, it does show up on My Garmin. Another point against the Lifetime Updater.

Bob
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geobernd

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  01:55:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WAASup

Read on another forum that the large 757MB D3060050A.JCV file is available for download now from Garmin:

http://download.garmin.com/support/2012_40/NA/JV/D3060050A.JCV

Thanks much for posting - exactly what I was waiting for to update my 1390LMT - update now underway....
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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  02:43:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks WAASup. Just what I was waiting for. I d/l and put the large JCV file on my SD card in the JCV folder.

-speedy
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NanaimoRick

Canada
7762 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  04:29:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The last 2 large files have been stored on the Garmin servers in the same place. They appear to be available within 48 hours (or less) of the map update being released. The location appears to be:

http://download.garmin.com/support/

followed by /the map release number folder/NA/JV/the JV file name for the specific map release. So the location for the latest large JV file is:

http://download.garmin.com/support/2012_40/NA/JV/D3060050A.JCV

and the location of the large file for map release 2012.30 was:

http://download.garmin.com/support/2012_30/NA/JV/D3060040A.JCV

Hopefully Garmin will continue to use this file system and we will be able to easily find the large file in the future. It should be:

http://download.garmin.com/support/2013_10/NA/JV/D3060060A.JCV if the system remains the same.

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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  04:37:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Earlier today I tried changing the 2012.30 address to reflect 2012.40 and the JCV file name as reported, but had no luck. But I could have easily missed something.

I think I need to reimport my routes. I can't get it to simulate driving .

-speedy

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NanaimoRick

Canada
7762 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  04:40:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As of now the links for 2012.30 and 2012.40 both work. When I tried going to http://download.garmin.com/support/2012_40/NA/JV/D3060050A.JCV yesterday I got a "file not found" error message.

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davidosus

Canada
68 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  10:11:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the download link!

There seems to be a problem with Garmin Lifetime Map Updater 2.1 for the Mac. Even after deleting it's preferences and starting fresh it still downloads the smaller junction file.

The Windows version of Garmin Lifetime Map Updater, however, does download the larger junction file.

nüvi 755T: Software Version 4.50 - GPS SW Version 2.90 - City Navigator North America 2014.30
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danham

USA
7448 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  14:55:51  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the report on LMU. I seem to recall it doing the same thing last time (2012.30). I got the correct JCV file using Option 2 to update this time.

-dan

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Puffins Nest

33 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  17:24:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With the large JCV file do you get split screen or just full screen. I think I prefer the split screen although I have never downloaded the larger file and tried it. Any preferences or dislikes using one or the other.
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danham

USA
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Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  17:35:49  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Split/full depends on the GPS model. Those that support split screen I think get full, but I don't own one, so better to wait for an answer from someone who knows what they're talking about [g]. I do know that installing the large file on a unit which does not support split will not add that feature.

-dan

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Puffins Nest

33 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  17:49:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Dan. Forgot to mention I have the 3490lmt. Cheers
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NanaimoRick

Canada
7762 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  18:03:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The large file (700+MB) only contains the full screen views, if it's the same as the last update. The smaller file that's placed on the 3xxx models (400+Mb) has the same views as the other file but they are split screen views which I guess equals smaller pictures and therefore smaller file size.

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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  18:17:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like we are talking about 3 different JCV files for the 2012.40 mapset. From WAASup's link earlier today, I got the large one. The small one came with the update to 2012.40. What is this 400 MB file you mention?


-speedy

Edited by - speedlever on 10 févr. 2012 18:22:54
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Puffins Nest

33 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  18:46:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Rick, that's what I suspected although I had never tried the full screen JCV's. Oh well happy enough with the split screen so I will stay with it.I gave it a good workout in Dec. and Jan. while down south and it worked well.
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NanaimoRick

Canada
7762 Posts

Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  19:42:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedlever

Sounds like we are talking about 3 different JCV files for the 2012.40 mapset. From WAASup's link earlier today, I got the large one. The small one came with the update to 2012.40. What is this 400 MB file you mention?





The JV file that comes with the 2012.40 update on the 3790, and probably any of the newer models that support split screen view and have 8GB of internal storage is D3191040A.JCV and is 460012KB in size.

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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  19:52:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One thing I have noticed, at least in the Phoenix area, is that, although there may not be a lot of new Junction Views in this map update, I'm noticing a lot more lane assist information. We live off the Red Mountain Freeway (Loop 202) and there are lane assist arrows on roads and streets that has never had them before.

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Carbuff

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Posted - 10 févr. 2012 :  21:31:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^^^ Hurray for the additional Lane assist info! I noticed that as well, traveling around NJ.


I've said it before, I think the Lane Assist is more useful than the Junction View (which IMO is just Eye Candy). (Note that I own a 1490 which does not have a split screen feature.)

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Quiet1

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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  15:37:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had mu Nuvi 760 for a few years now with the lifetime map updates which have been successful. Unfortunately, this latest version did not work and bricked my 760. I am stuck at the loading maps screen, windows will not recognize the 760 as a drive. I have tried several of the resets described in the forums, but nothing was successful. I was using the lifetime updater program which worked last release but not this time. It downloaded from the web but when the install began it lasted about a minute or two and then the program indicated there was a problem. Now the 760 will no longer boot and is not recognized by windows. Does anyone have any suggestions? The 760 has bee pretty reliable up to this point and I would like to be able to recover the unit.

Thanks.
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MLD4

Canada
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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  16:42:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is the first time since August 2010 that the 2012.40 NA downloaded and installed without stopping or pausing. I used Garmin Lifetime Updater. The total time was 3 hours. I have realized that by leaving it alone, the installation works.
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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  17:10:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Always a good idea.

@Quiet1 - call Garmin support on Monday and they will probably have you up and running fairly quickly. The numbers are:

U.S.: 913-397-8200
U.S. toll-free: 1-800-800-1020
Canada: 1-866-429-9296

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Quiet1

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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  18:40:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@NanaimoRick - Thanks for the numbers. Anything else I can try in the meantime? It's stuck at the progress bar after getting past the loading maps screen when connected to the PC via USB cable. If it is not connected and is stand alone it just shutdown after the loading maps screen.

Thanks
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JimD

USA
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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  18:54:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My 885t is giving me trouble too. I tried using option 2 at least 3 times yesterday and once today with no success. It gets to the last step and says it experienced an error. I'm trying right now using the lifetime updater program which is, I think, the way I put the maps on it last time. My 765t installed yesterday the first try with option 2. I've copied the larger JCV file to my hard drive for installation on the 885t mini-SD if I ever get the maps to load.

I've gotten a message from windows about checking the nuvi's flash drive too. If this latest attempt to install the maps bombs, I will let chkdsk (or whatever it is called these days) run on the nuvi. It seems vaguely possible there is an issue with the flash drive. Fortunately, I have a backup on my computer hard drive. It is not real recent but should get me back into business if there is a "fatal error" on the drive.

Before I do anything to deliberately risk the nuvi's operation I will try a hard reset.

Jim
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danham

USA
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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  18:58:48  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@Quiet1:

You need to get your nuvi into preboot mode. Try a forum search for preboot 760. Here's one possible fix I found:


Keeping one finger on the screen turn your Nuvi ON and very fast slide to LOCK
It has to be done very fast (dont wait for Garmin logo on the screen)
Connect your Nuvi with USB cable to PC

-dan

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smiley1081

Italy
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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  19:20:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Funny, GarminMapUpdater 3.0.8 shows me CNNT EU 2012.40 and CNNT NA 2012.30...

Updated CNNT EU, I'll wait a few days to see for CNNT NA.

BTW, how may I tell GMU that I want to modify the installation options?
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danham

USA
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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  19:38:14  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I assume the Win version also has a checkbox for "Advanced" options.

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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  19:39:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
danham, you assume correctly.


-speedy
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Carbuff

USA
171 Posts

Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  19:42:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^^^ It does, but the choice is easy to overlook at the bottom-left of one of the screens. (I overlook it about half the time...)


quote:
BTW, how may I tell GMU that I want to modify the installation options?



You can choose "Install to device only"

or
"Install to device and computer"

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Nuvi 1490LMT w/EcoRoute HD
Quest 2
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Quiet1

6 Posts

Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  20:00:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@danham - Ok I did the middle screen touch and windows device manager temporarily sees the garmin device but after 30 seconds it is removed. It does not show as a windows drive. After some researching I ran the garmin update 3.0.8 while windows device manager recognizes the 760 but the garmin updater program crashes. I also retried the LMU as well and it crashes at the same point. Any other suggestions?

Thanks
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danham

USA
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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  21:13:46  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sounds to me as if you need some Windows help, which I'm not qualified to give [g]. I would strenuously avoid using LMU, perhaps even uninstall it before doing anything else.

Other than that, let's hope a Win expert chimes in here.

-dan

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Quiet1

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Posted - 12 févr. 2012 :  21:35:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have uninstalled the LMU program and still have the same problem. I am fairly good with windows and currently I am at a loss. I even installed the latest garmi usb drivers. I will keep checking back to see if anyone else has any suggestions and if not I will call Garmin Support tomorrow.

Thanks to danham and NanaimoRick for you help so far.
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Quiet1

6 Posts

Posted - 13 févr. 2012 :  18:30:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got off the phone with Garmin Support. After trying with it connected to the laptop and then just powering up in stand alone mode, the support person said the battery is most likely the problem and wanted me to RMA the unit for $99. I told the support person that it was working fine up until the map update. He was still insistent on being a battery issue.

I will attempt to do a long term charge overnight (even though 99% of the time it is powered from the vehicle).

I will try a different support person tomorrow.
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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 13 févr. 2012 :  19:37:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For the record, I queried Garmin (and they were very good to respond) about the way they decide whether you get the large or the small JCV file. Here's a snip of their response:

*****************
The reason you can manually download the "JCV" file to your device but it initially chose the smaller version is because of the total memory on the device. This is because not everyone has an SD card to save their maps on. The engineers decided it would be better to provide a smaller "JCV" file so more of the maps can be saved directly on the device.

Unfortunately, the map update does not judge which "JCV" file to choose based on the free space on the device. It judges it based on the model. This model (Nuvi 1690) always chooses the smaller file by default. This means you will need to manually download the correct file again with the next update.
****************

Ok. I can live with that.

-speedy
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smiley1081

Italy
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Posted - 13 févr. 2012 :  19:51:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do we get the large JCV file for Europe?
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Captcaper

USA
383 Posts

Posted - 14 févr. 2012 :  13:36:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Garmins server for the 2012.4 gets over taxed and gives problems. Think about all the Nuvi's trying to get an update? I've had nothing but trouble trying to get the update. Try again.

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Darbre

USA
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Posted - 14 févr. 2012 :  16:42:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FWIW, my 760 updated last night quickly, and with no problems at all using the Lifetime Update software. However the LU software did not know there was an update, and I don't understand why that was. Seems kind of worthless if it won't alert when a new map is out. But forcing a check worked and the update was flawless.

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Quiet1

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Posted - 16 févr. 2012 :  01:25:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Update:

Call Garmin again. The support person had my try several of the resets which I learned from here. He finally agreed they would RMA the unit for free since it failed during the update process.

Thanks for everyone's help.

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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 16 févr. 2012 :  03:11:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's great, Garmin support can be truly frustrating sometimes but then they do something like this just as often.

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Captcaper

USA
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Posted - 17 févr. 2012 :  13:10:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm having a hard time trying to install 2012.4. I choose install to device and pc. Takes hours. I leave it on at night. When I get up there is nothing showing on the desktop so I run Lifetime Updaters again and it keeps going "preparing files for download". In my Win7 files under program data/garmin/maps there is a folder for lifetime maps with 2012.4 in it. But can't get it to install.

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danham

USA
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Posted - 17 févr. 2012 :  14:31:26  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The two most likely causes for your troubles are Internet congestion and Lifetime Map Updater. The latter is easiest to fix: rip it out by the roots and throw it away and use myGarmin's dashboard and select Option 2. LMU is just not reliable.

If that doesn't do it, check your Internet connection because it shouldn't take all night unless you are on a slow setup or your computer sleeps during the transfer. I updated two GPSes and my computer all in less than 3 hours with a fairly standard cable broadband connection.

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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 17 févr. 2012 :  16:13:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Download times for a map update are of course very dependent on the speed of your internet connection and the load on Garmin's servers. It takes about 3 hours to download and install maps on my home network in Canada but here in Mesa, AZ it takes from 5 1/2 to 6 hours. The difference is that my ISP service in Canada is twice as fast as the one in Arizona. Also, and I'm not sure why this is, it takes much longer to download maps to the Nuvi and your computer. Garmin warns you about this but doesn't really give any indication why.

That being said Captcaper's problem may not be with the download as it appears that that part of the process completes successfully sometime during the night as the map files are in their proper location on his computer. His problem looks like there is some issue with the map files being compiled into the gmapprom.img file that is then transferred to the Nuvi, which by the way, can also take a fairly long time depending on many factors to do with the PC, hard disk space, processor speed, etc.

I agree that not using the LMU is probably a good idea and I'd also suggest a couple of other things:

- since the map files appear to be on the computer and you can start the process to install them on your device, I'd disable your Anti Virus software and see if that allows the installation of the maps to complete.

- If the files are correctly on your computer, you could download and install Garmin's MapInstall program and use it to install those map files onto your GPS. This would completely bypass the update program while letting you get the maps installed. This may mean that you'd need to move the old map file from the Nuvi first to make space for the new one and rename the new file to gmapprom.img after the installation as I believe the default file name will be gmapsupp.img.

- if these suggestions don't work, I'd suggest you download the map update again, this time, using Option 2 and if possible do this at a time when you can monitor the progress of the installation. You should see the process of the download in the progress bars on the program screen, followed by a verification step to insure the files downloaded properly. Then a short step where the download files are compiled and finally a fairly long step showing the progress of the actual installation to the Nuvi. If all goes well you should have a good map installation at that point. You may want to disable your Anti Virus software before you attempt this redownload just to be sure that it isn't getting in the way and is the actual cause of all your issues.

Hopefully one of these suggestions will work for you. Good Luck.


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Puffins Nest

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Posted - 17 févr. 2012 :  18:16:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It took me around 2.5 to 3 hours on Ultra High Speed. I also had to turn of the antivirus (sucks though), screen saver and adjust the power settings for the laptop. When I did that, my second try went flawlessly...using option 2. Good luck.
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Captcaper

USA
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Posted - 18 févr. 2012 :  13:11:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I contacted Garmin support yesterday morning again ( I called the other day and the gal didn't help me at all) about it and got someone this time who was dead on. I didn't even know there was a 2nd option. My DSL isn't that fast here so that factored in on my on going attemps. I had told her I didn't understand why it took so long because I down load movies,etc. and she said these maps are a different type of download so it will take longer.??? new to me.
She did have me install option "2" which is Mapupdater. That did the trick. For some reason lifetime map updater just wouldn't work with my setup. I would have hoped I would check back here If I never called them because you guys had the right answer as well.
Thanks.

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Edited by - Captcaper on 18 févr. 2012 13:20:21
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Puffins Nest

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Posted - 18 févr. 2012 :  15:40:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@Captcaper glad it finally all worked out for you. Cheers.
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Icebound

Canada
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Posted - 20 févr. 2012 :  04:25:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I supposedly got my 750 updated to 2012.40, BUT HAVE I, REALLY??

When I went through the update procedure last September with 2011 maps, it seemed to me that it simply overwrote the original maps in the main "Garmin" directory on the Nuvi.

This time, with the 2012.40 it said there is no room... Of course there isn't, the old img file is still there.

So I dutifully downloaded "to computer only", and ran MapInstall as per their directions to update the Nuvi... Only it still would not update the main device Garmin directory... it would only allow me to update the nuvi to the SD card, where there was room.

So now I have a gmapsupp.img on my SD card (obviously the new maps), but I still have the gmapprom.img from September, 2011 in the device's garmin directory. And when it loads maps, it is loading the 2011 one, not the 2012 one.

What is wrong here????



nuvi 750
Software 4.90
GPS SW Version 2.90m
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sussamb

United Kingdom
959 Posts

Posted - 20 févr. 2012 :  08:18:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, nothing is exactly 'wrong'. You can resolve which map is used by your 750 by Tools, Settings, Map, Map Info. You should see both maps listed. Check the one you want to use and uncheck the other

See page 40 of the user manual:

http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/nuvi750-GPS-Atl_OwnersManual.pdf

Edited by - sussamb on 20 févr. 2012 08:22:17
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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 20 févr. 2012 :  13:32:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On this 2012.40 mapupdate, I somehow ended up with the partial map of 2012.30 from my prior update where I put part on the device and part on the SD card. This time, the updater changed such that it put all the map on the SD card. In the device settings itself, you can select what maps to use as sussamb noted above.

To properly fix that, I went into the SD card and deleted the older gmapsupp.img file with the date of my prior update. Now I don't have the choice of maps in my device (and have more space available on my SD card).

-speedy
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Icebound

Canada
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Posted - 20 févr. 2012 :  17:52:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sussamb

Well, nothing is exactly 'wrong'. You can resolve which map is used by your 750 by Tools, Settings, Map, Map Info.




Okay. Thank you. Yes... both show there, so the install seems to be okay.

But I guess my real question is: How do I get rid of last year's 2012.20 from the device and move 2012.40 over to the device off the SD-card? Safely.

The device WOULD have enough room, once .20 was off.



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sussamb

United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 févr. 2012 :  18:03:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have a look at the tutorials here:

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=c6483e8a197b8356&sc=documents&id=C6483E8A197B8356%21396

Tutorials 2 and 4 should help you.

Note that where it talks about using Mapsource to send maps to your nuvi/card you can use Mapinstall instead.

Edited by - sussamb on 20 févr. 2012 18:05:17
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JimD

USA
132 Posts

Posted - 20 févr. 2012 :  21:16:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I finally got my 885t updated over the weekend. I kept getting a message indicating a problem had occurred. My other clue was an offer from the PC to scan and "fix" the drive of the Garmin. But I tried saying yes to the scan and fix and it never worked. Finally over the weekend it did it's scan and fix and then I tried the update again and it worked fine.

I think I will have to resist the urge to unplug the nuvi without going through the "ask for permission first" routine. I'm guessing but I think I may have "messed up" a memory location that Garmin checks as part of the update process. The nuvi always worked fine but Garmin's checker was flagging something.

Jim
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OldGray

USA
54 Posts

Posted - 27 févr. 2012 :  18:00:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well... I've been trying to update my 765T and it's been an endless source of frustration, mainly with Garmin's pathetic programming.

At first I tried the Garmin Lifetime Map Update. It wanted a newer version, so I let it install it. No issue there. I then tried to update the maps on my GPS. First, it said there was no new map available. After awhile it finally said there was a new version and then took 4+ hours to download the update. It then took awhile and crashed, saying it couldn't update it.

So I tried Method #2. Well, that's fine & dandy but it requires another piece of garbage Garmin program -- the Garmin Communicator. So... as expected, that didn't work either. I tried Method 2 only to have it tell me the Communicator plugin wasn't installed. It most certainly was! No matter which browser I tried, it still refused to load the plugin. So I ripped the plugin out, put a new copy in. Restart the browsers. Only then would it let me download the Garmin map update program. So, I fired up Garmin Map Update and it said I already had the latest version (2012.30). I had to enter the key code for the new version manually and it started to download. Slowly. Very slowly. Then it crashed. Tried it again and it appears that it's downloading, but terribly slowly.

Contrast this to the TomTom XXL World Edition I just updated. TomTom Home needed an update, no big deal and it handled it itself. It then downloaded a new firmware version for the TomTom AND new maps in UNDER 10 MINUTES.

Why does Garmin's desktop software suck so much?
Even the 765T sucked initially. Now some 18(?) months after it's been discontinued, they've patched enough of the bugs that it's a great GPS, but tons of rough patches before we got here.

Doesn't anyone at Garmin actually USE what they make?
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sussamb

United Kingdom
959 Posts

Posted - 27 févr. 2012 :  18:04:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have to say that I've never had a problem with any Garmin download, more often than not (apart from Lifetime map updater which IS decidedly flaky) any problem is due to problems with the users PC and not with Garmin software

Edited by - sussamb on 27 févr. 2012 18:04:46
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danham

USA
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Posted - 27 févr. 2012 :  18:14:10  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@OldGray:

Constructive criticism is fine; rants are not, so just a reminder. Many people, myself included, have been updating maps for years without a hitch.

I agree with you that Lifetime Map Updater is buggy and unreliable, but Option 2 has been rock solid, so please consider sussamb's good advice, which is to take a look at your own computer to make sure it is not contributing to the problem.

-dan

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Lizard_weasel

USA
892 Posts

Posted - 27 févr. 2012 :  18:46:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also highly doubt that a full map update will download in 10 minutes for ANY unit. Since these map upgrades are over a gig, that'd be a heck of a fast pipe.

Steve
Garmin Nuvi 750, 3760LTM and Zumo 660.
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speedlever

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 27 févr. 2012 :  19:26:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not to derail the thread, but I find Garmin generally has good customer service. That being said, Garmin has given up the effort to fix issues with the Garmin USB drivers which frequently BSOD my brand new Sandy Bridge system when I connect my Edge 305. Yep, I get a GMNUSB.sys error. The Seven forums say the fault lies with Garmin drivers. Garmin says their drivers are Win7/64 compatible. All I know is that when it won't work, it immediately BSODs the system on connection of the 305. When it works, no problem at all. No issues on the prior Conroe system. And all latest drivers are being used.

So while the Garmin software generally works quite well, there are unexplained times when it doesn't.





-speedy
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OldGray

USA
54 Posts

Posted - 27 févr. 2012 :  21:04:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
2nd try of Map Update and a little over 3.5 hours(!) to download, the update finally came down and installed, as it should. It also installed the larger (793.9MB) Junction View file as well. Looking forward to see what all has changed.

As far as my issues being related to my individual computer -- highly unlikely. Stock MacBook Pro with nothing fancy enabled. I specifically used this computer to update my GPS units since my PCs are usually running something unusual (custom kernels, custom interface cards, etc.).

Found the error in the error log:
Error: /Garmin/mac-mapupdate-4.2.0-source/libs/UPD/UPD_UpdateFilesList.cpp 115

Re-running Map Update did trigger it to download updates to Map Update, so it's likely the program fixed this glitch.



Lizard Weasel: It is a decent pipe. 150Mbit physical connection coming into the building, limited to 100Mbit due to the router's interfaces. Theoretically I should be able to get 12.5MB/sec out of this connection/router but due to overhead it usually tops out ~9.0MB/sec or so.
The TomTom update was 25.8MB for the firmware update, 1.58GB for the maps, so ~1.6GB. Or 1,638 MB. I was seeing a steady 3.0 MB/sec (not Mbit), so 1638/3.0/60 seconds = 9.1 minutes, which is indeed what I saw.

speedlever The times I've had to call Garmin, once I get past the long hold times + probably the worst on-hold music I've ever heard, the reps have been very good. If anything, I've felt bad for them as they're not the programmers who were responsible for the problems I'd encountered. I actually got one of the higher-level tech support people to give me their e-mail address and I've been forwarding on crash logs from the 765T as they happen. I think I've only had 1 crash this year on 4.30. Just downloaded 4.40 today and expect it'll probably run fine.

I just wish Garmin would get it right before releasing it. I LOVE the 765T, to the point that I bought a second one in case the first one goes south. Now that they've gotten all of the glitches out, it's an amazing GPS with features (and map detail) that are better than their current models.

I have both a TomTom & Garmin and recommend the Garmin every time. If I'm just driving around town, only the Garmin goes with me. At this point I only use the TomTom as a second source of traffic and sometimes it does do a more logical routing (what locals would drive).

Garmin's also very good about taking map error reports and has gotten increasingly better (faster) in the past year. TomTom, on the other hand, still hasn't added roads which have been here for 10+ years now, even though I manually add them after each map update. Come to think of it, there isn't a single map correction I've sent to TomTom which has shown up on a map.

Edited by - OldGray on 27 févr. 2012 21:05:34
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Lizard_weasel

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Posted - 27 févr. 2012 :  21:09:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, with a pipe like that I understand. That being the case, with the Garmin update, the problem is either on their end (bandwidth usage by people doing the upgrade) or somewhere between you and the Garmin server. Most don't see those kind of speeds.

Steve
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Formerly Nuvi 350 and Axim x51v with Mapopolis and bluetooth receiver.
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danham

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Glad it worked and I am quite surprised that you had problems on a Mac. Not to be a fanboi, but the majority of reported issues like this are from Windows users, and in a proportion that is larger than just the difference in market share.

At any rate, happy ending.

-dan

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Lizard_weasel

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Posted - 27 févr. 2012 :  22:17:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm a brand new Mac user after 20+ years with PC's (got tired of replacing them yearly). I've updated 2 GPS's with new maps with the lifetime updater with absolutely no problem. I actually have 2 to go, but one I won't have in my hands until April.

Steve
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speedlever

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I recently changed over to the Plex 30/30 fiberoptic system and find the restrictions to be at Garmin's server. I used option 2 and had the full mapset d/l and installed to my computer and device in under 60 minutes.

-speedy
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ZX14NINJA

Canada
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Posted - 28 févr. 2012 :  00:03:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried to update my 3490 LMT, but it only shows me .30 (re-install) in my Dashboard. Am on hold with Garmin now to see why I can't get .40

Edited by - ZX14NINJA on 28 févr. 2012 00:10:58
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bobaber

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zx14ninja, My life time updater would not show.40 until I uninstalled and reinstalled it, then it shows .40, by that time I had already gone to option 2 in mygarmin to update my 3790t.
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Animal

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quote:
Originally posted by Lizard_weasel

Ok, with a pipe like that I understand.... Most don't see those kind of speeds.



LW...
My friend has A Business connection thru TIME WARNER. Where I only get 8-10Mb service for $40 a month, He pays $100 a month for his ISP service but he gets 50Mb.

I spoke to a Time Warner sales rep and he said ANYONE can get a Business account, and pay the money to get 50 Mb (download) service. They even have a $200 service level that gets you over 100Mb service... but they only guarantee 100Mb in residential area's.

But I'm happy with my 8Mb service.. even if it means leaving my GPS on overnight to download and install the entire USA/Mex/Canada 2012.40 using my Quadcore Athlon X4 - 640 system.

Recently I acquired an ASUS I7 laptop - Quadcore, and it performed the entire update, using Mapupdater, in about 2 hours... 45minutes-1 hour to download.. 15 minutes to compile map and another 30-40 minutes to upload to my 3760 LMT. Times are estimated, but I was sitting there actually watching it move FAST on my dinky 8Mb cable service.

So although the download may be due to Garmin's lack of congestion (I performed download a second time, about a month after release of 2012.4)... it was MUCH faster this time around, and an I7 was super FAST at compiling the map (Just under 15 minutes).

USB 2.0 upload to my 3760LMT was fast but not FAST enough for my tastes (a little over half an hour) ... still better than USB 1.1 on my old StreetPilot c330.



After all, it's Cheap :)


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ZX14NINJA

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Posted - 20 mars 2012 :  04:54:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lizard_weasel

Ok, with a pipe like that I understand. That being the case, with the Garmin update, the problem is either on their end (bandwidth usage by people doing the upgrade) or somewhere between you and the Garmin server. Most don't see those kind of speeds.


They're throttling the pipe. They probably don't have the bandwidth or processing to carry this type of traffic at light speeds - imagine thousands of concurrent users downloading 2GB maps. LOL

Few companies have that type of availability over that many users. We also have a no-cap on traffic 100MB fiber that gets 97MB up and down (from the provider), and we get a map file downloaded and installed in 28 minutes...still long for that type of download, but better than 3-5 hours. I can download a 2GB file from Microsoft or Apple in a fraction of the time, but that's Microsoft and Apple, not Garmin. Just sayin'

@ Dan, I'm a recent move-over to MAC myself after being a MAC hater for decades. I love MAC now, but they have issues as well, albeit not as sad as Windows. I won't migrate to an iMAC over my Windows Workstations, as MAC doesn't play well in a Windows domain, but I love my MacBook Pro and my MacBook AIR. No Windows notebook comes close!

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SergZak

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quote:
Originally posted by ZX14NINJA

@ Dan, I'm a recent move-over to MAC myself after being a MAC hater for decades.

I'm also a very recent Mac convert, having started out with an Apple IIe in the early 80's, then migrating to Atari (8-bit, then 16-bit), then to PC's. I never hated Macs nor Apple...it was just a slow migration away from them since they were so high-cost (the IIe system we got in the 80's set my dad back at least $2,000, probably closer to $3k). I recently (within the last month or so) got a MacBook Pro for experience with the platform/OS and find them very nice. Still pricey, but nice. I'll never give up the PC platform since I'm so intertwined with it but the Mac is proving to be a great change of pace for this "PC guy".

nüvi 3490LMT, nüvi 3790LMT, nüvi 765T, nüvi 855, nüvi 760, nüvi 750

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speedlever

USA
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Posted - 20 mars 2012 :  12:38:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Other than an iPad 1, I have yet to discover the appeal of the Mac. ;)

-speedy
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danham

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Nobody enjoys discussing platform pros and cons more than I, but let's try to steer back toward CN NT NA 2012.40 [g].

-dan

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