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caryrae

USA
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Posted - 13 mai 2009 :  19:56:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Read this on another forum.

quote:
From GatorGuy
A report today in GPS World highlights the dire straits facing the current GPS satellite system. As early as next year, the Air Force may no longer be able to maintain a constellation of 32 active satellites, with 8 in danger of imminent failure. A niminum of 24 must be maintained to assure sufficient positioning capabilities for ground based location. Some excerpts from the article follow:

The United States Government Accountability Office (GAO) issued on May 7 an alarming report on the future of GPS, characterizing ongoing modernization efforts as shaky. The agency appears to single out the IIF program as the weak link between current stability and ensured future capability, calling into doubt “whether the Air Force will be able to acquire new satellites in time to maintain current GPS service without interruption.” It asserts the very real possibility that “in 2010, as old satellites begin to fail, the overall GPS constellation will fall below the number of satellites required to provide the level of GPS service that the U.S. government commits to.”

Prepared at the request of the U.S. House of Representatives’ Subcommittee on National Security and Foreign Affairs . . ." the report concludes that "it is uncertain whether the Air Force will be able to acquire new satellites in time to maintain current GPS service without interruption. If not, some military operations and some civilian users could be adversely affected.”

“In addition,” the report summary continues, “military users will experience a delay in utilizing new GPS capabilities, including improved resistance to jamming of GPS signals, because of poor synchronization of the acquisition and development of the satellites with the ground control and user equipment. Finally, there are challenges in ensuring civilian requirements for GPS can be met and that GPS is compatible with other new, potentially competing global space-based positioning, navigation, and timing systems."

Gloomy Outcomes. Based on the most recent satellite reliability and launch schedule data from March of this year, the estimated long-term probability of maintaining a constellation of at least 24 operational satellites falls below 95 percent during fiscal year 2010 and remains below 95 percent until the end of fiscal year 2014, at times falling to about 80 percent.

The results of fewer than 24 operational satellites could include:
Intercontinental commercial air carriers may have to delay, cancel, or reroute flights.
Enhanced-911 response to emergency calls could lose accuracy, particularly operating in urban and mountainous environments — exactly where emergencies tend to be most dire and hardest to locate.
Accuracy of precision-guided munitions could decrease, forcing the military to use larger munitions or use more munitions on the same target to achieve the same level of mission success, and increasing the risks of collateral damage. The urgent desire to decrease or eliminate collateral damage to civilians in or near conflict zones has often been cited by the founders of GPS as one of their key motivations in envisioning the program.
Both standard positioning service and precise positioning service could suffer, impacting large numbers of civil users, both professional (for example, surveyors) and casual (users of location-based services via cell phones) in moderately mountainous areas, in large cities, and under forest foliage.

The effects of satellite power loss over time, due to harsh space conditions, could be mitigated by shutting down satellite subsystems when not needed, reducing power consumption, also by shutting off a secondary (unnamed) GPS payload. DoD has long been reluctant to take either measure absolutely, particularly the second one, but according to testimony . . . has been implementing both practices on an intermittent basis.

. . . the Space Command maintains the required minimum of at least 24 GPS satellites in orbit, and the current level of 30 operational satellites, by keeping a “ghost fleet” of older, partially mission-capable satellites in backup mode. “Currently, three vehicles are held in residual status and are returned to the constellation every six months to ensure operational capability.” He stated that added life also is being squeezed from the satellites by reducing power to or turning off equipment for secondary missions aboard the satellites.

The essence of the report is that if current satellites cannot be maintained until new ones are in place and operational, then civilian use may be restricted to a single band rather than the more precise positioning that Pres. Clinton allowed civilian access to a few years back. Military needs will get priority. And this may start ocurring as early as next year. Just thought you ought to know.

Edited by - caryrae on 13 mai 2009 22:41:21

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gatorguy

USA
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Posted - 13 mai 2009 :  22:39:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, it's certainly from another forum.

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ateixeira

USA
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Posted - 20 mai 2009 :  15:51:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-09-670T


http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/19/gps-system-might-begin-to-fail-in-2010-government-accounting-of/


Excerpt:

"there will be an increased likelihood that... the overall GPS constellation will fall below the number of satellites required to provide the level of GPS service that the U.S. government commits to."

Aren't there more satellites than necessary now?

I have a feeling this may effect GPS receivers that require more accuracy more than it will a simple user-owned GPS.

Any comments?
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gpspassion

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Posted - 20 mai 2009 :  16:13:56  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
31 satellites in the air as I type this : http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?topic_id=4134

IMHO this is just good "media food for a slow news day"...something will be figured out in due course, besides the satellites of the upcoming Galileo European will also be available at some point, at last some practical use for that new system ;-)

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vincentmckenzie

United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 mai 2009 :  18:40:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was asked to repost this in this thread...

Well, on the one hand they get absolutely no money for it, and it's old technology which has been (to an extent) superseded by more accurate systems that are not compatible with the current generation of GPS receivers.

There are also several other positioning systems available (copied from Wikipedia), such as:

Beidou – China's regional system that China has proposed to expand into a global system named COMPASS.

Galileo – a proposed global system being developed by the European Union, joined by China, Israel, India, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, and Ukraine, planned to be operational by 2013.

GLONASS – Russia's global system which is being restored to full availability in partnership with India.

Indian Regional Navigational Satellite System (IRNSS) – India's proposed regional system.

QZSS – Japanese proposed regional system covering Japan only.

...so they have less motivation to update it. Despite this, they're spending $2,000,000,000 (around £1,300,000,000) to update it.

So don't worry about GPS not working in the long term.

The main problem is the short term, and the delays they have encountered in obtaining and launching replacement satellites. All of the built 20 block I and II satellites are out of service. We have 13 out of 19 of the block IIA satellites, 12 out of 13 of the IIRs, and 6 out of 8 of the IIR-M satellites still in service.

The bottom line is that we only have 31 in service in total, out of a total of 60 built since 1978. For optimum full Earth coverage you need 32 satellites in service, and the bare minimum (4 satellite lock in any location at any time) for full Earth coverage is 24. The remaining 13 IIA Satellites could fail at any minute - 6 have already failed relatively recently... and this is where the worry is. What happens if another 7 satellites fail in the next year or two? If that happens then we'll start to lose coverage even with a clear view of the entire sky. There will be times when you won't be able to see 4 satellites. In a car, where the roof blocks a good 50% of the visible Sky, it's even worse, and people will notice this effect much sooner, perhaps even now as we're already below the recommended 32 satellite coverage.

There is a contract with Boeing to produce 10 block IIF satellites for launch in 2009 to 2011, but so far only one has been built, and it hasn't been launched yet. This looks like it's suffering from delays.

There are also "plans" to build 12 block IIIA satellites for launch after 2014, and further "plans" to build 8x IIIB and 16x IIIC at some point after that.

This statement that the GPS system could start to fail in 2010 was issued by the US Goverment Accountability Office, and is a real and genuine risk. However, as best as I can tell, at worst I'd expect to see occasional poor coverage for a couple of years at most.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 20 mai 2009 :  19:30:56  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for reposting and for the insight, yes, it's a worst case scenario as those you would find in SEC filings, can't rule it out though.

Current chipsets are said to be GPS and Galileo compatible but I'm not sure that would mean computing a location using mixed signals or computing a location separately and then coming up with an "augmented" position. With the Galileo program being so delayed it probably wouldn't help in the short term anyway.

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steve smith

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Posted - 21 mai 2009 :  03:29:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I could be wrong about this but to my knowledge, the only reason we get to use the gps satellites at no charge is because they were developed by our military with our tax dollars. My fear is that if our military doesn't keep up with replacements, then private business will take over and we'll end up paying for the service like XM or Sirius. Even if other countries step in, I'd be surprised if they didn't take the opportunity to charge for their use.

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gpspassion

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Posted - 22 mai 2009 :  01:18:20  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Possibly and if it failed we would have some nerve to turn around and blame the US...having said that I'm not sure what the SA removal document said, let's see http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/gps/selective_availability.htm - well not much in that respect. Would be a big letdown...

Not sure about the other systems, but Galileo is supposed to be free for the "basic" version, GPS as we know it apparently, with "for pay" versions available with more accuracy. Based on what I remember each satellite will broadcast the same type of data the SBAS satellites do

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Stearmandriver

USA
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Posted - 22 mai 2009 :  07:47:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's interesting, but truthfully it would be really amazing if the USAF let this happen.

GPS is used for more than navigation by the military... it's used for (and was developed primarily for) weapons guidance. All of the current-generation "smart" weapons use gps guidance; a very few have backup guidance methods like laser illumination.

A failure (or reduction in accuracy) of the gps system would render a large portion of the military's arsenal useless. The wheels of bureaucracy surely turn slowly, but things have a way of happening when the Joint Chiefs start throwing out statements like that.

Not to mention all the commercial industries that would be affected. Everyone from airline pilots to farmers uses this stuff to improve safety and efficiency of operations. I fly for an airline, and if we started losing access to some of the RNAV/GPS procedures we use, the costs in lost markets would be huge. And the US government seems benevolent lately when it comes to propping up private industry.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 24 mai 2009 :  20:32:26  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, and I just bumped into an interesting analysis here showing the impact of the loss of these 9 satellites : http://blogs.agi.com/navigationAccuracy/?p=196


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