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IsLNdbOi
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 Posted - 07 juil. 2009 : 00:05:00
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Originally posted by Don
Haven't posted in a while but hello to anybody who missed me...
My 760 just died, and I'm thinking of getting the 1490T, but I'm not sure if I want to give up some features that I am used to. The biggest one is the lack of the powered cradle, which also means that it doesn't have the "locate" feature, which records your "last location" when you pull it off the mount. I use this and like the automatic feature (I never THINK I'm going to forget where my car is parked!).
I don't care about the FM transmitter being gone, since it didn't work for beans anyway, but losing the MP3 player is dissapointing. I don't really care about the 3D maps either, and I know there are some additional features on this new 5" model that I'll enjoy, but it is too bad about losing these others. And when others say that they are saving some of these features for their more expensive models, isn't $500 a "more expensive model", especially in this economy?
These new units (12xx, 13xx, 14xx) are supposed to be the low-end of a new series. I'd look at the 765T or maybe wait to see what Garmin announces later this summer or fall. |
Edited by - IsLNdbOi on 07 juil. 2009 00:05:32 |
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MrT-Man
Canada
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Posted - 07 juil. 2009 : 14:16:50
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| Any idea if that means they have an inferior gps chipset to the 7xx series? |
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gpspassion
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Don
USA
106 Posts |
Posted - 08 juil. 2009 : 23:15:01
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Just got the 1490 from Best Buy (since my 760 just died last week). Here are my first reactions:
The Screen – The 5” display looks great: bright & clear. I was surprised at how much easier everything is to read because of the larger screen. Even though it doesn’t seem that going from a 4.3” to a 5” diagonal screen would be significant, but if you do the math, it’s about 30% larger (about 2.5 sq. in. more screen). This makes a big difference. And it’s almost twice as large as a 3.5” screen.
The Sound – Although there is still only one speaker, it is significantly louder and clearer than the 760. I actually set the volume to about 40%, and that was about the same as 80% on the 760.
Pedestrian Mode: The unit goes into a complexly different mode, with “step” by “step” directions on how to get to your destination. (It didn’t show the shortcut walking path that I take all the time, though). The mode screen is easily gotten to by pressing the car or person icon on the top of the screen.
Start-up time – I actually thought the new unit was broken, since it took 20 minutes to initially calibrate to the satellites. Fortunately, subsequent start-ups were almost instantaneous.
Bluetooth – Had a tough time syncing my ATT/Cingular 8125, but I persisted and they finally saw each other. I never had a problem syncing it to the 760. Also, after it was configured, the 1490 does not automatically see the phone, like the 760 did. I have to first hit the Bluetooth icon on the main screen, then choose my phone. This is the only Bluetooth device that I have configured. And unlike the 760, the 1490 does not display call history, my phone book, sent or received calls, like the 760 did.
Street names do not appear. No matter how much I zoom in, the names of the streets around my house do not show. I wish I could compare to the 760, but this is pretty annoying.
By far, the worse “feature” in this new model is Garmin’s attempt to make the screen “slide” like the iPhone or iPod Touch. This is not implemented well at all, with the screen not going where you want it when you move your finger across. I would like a way to turn this feature off. Hopefully Garmin is working on an upgrade so that it works properly.
I’ll test traffic and navigation over the weekend.
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Now own a 1490 |
Edited by - Don on 10 juil. 2009 11:22:39 |
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SergZak
USA
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Posted - 10 juil. 2009 : 11:52:33
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Originally posted by Don
Street names do not appear. No matter how much I zoom in, the names of the streets around my house do not show. I wish I could compare to the 760, but this is pretty annoying.
This does not sound very good. What mode are you in when you see this, automotive or pedestrian? If it's automotive, you may want to switch to pedestrian and see if this makes any difference.
You can take comparison screen shots of the same map detail screen in the same area on both units and post the screen shots. The screen shot option should be under Tools>Settings>Display (I don't have any units here to verify this so it may be different). The saved screen shots should then be in x:/Garmin/screenshot (or something similar). Follow the instructions for image uploading here:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14251
Please be sure to follow the image sizing/formatting instructions at the link above |
nüvi 855: UnitSW 4.6 nüvi 765: UnitSW 3.6 nüvi 760: UnitSW 4.8 - all on GTM 20/MSN Direct GDB 50 (1994 Mustang GT) nüvi 750: UnitSW 4.8 (2006 Toyota RAV4) - nüvi 250: UnitSW 5.0 (backup unit) Southern California |
Edited by - SergZak on 10 juil. 2009 13:25:17 |
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Don
USA
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Posted - 10 juil. 2009 : 21:09:41
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Just got off the phone with tech support (waited 45 minutes). He verified that his unit did the same as mine, where the street names do not appear on the map, and the annoying “rubber-band” effect when moving the screen. He pointed out that you can press the street that you want to see the name in the “Where to”, then “Browse Map”, but I don’t feel this is an adequate solution. He pointed out that the unit is a NAVIGATION device and not a MAPPING device. Not sure if I agree with that distinction. BTW, it does not matter whether you are in 2D or 3D, MORE or LESS map detail, pedestrian, auto or bike mode, or how close you zoom-in – none of the smaller street names appear on the screen.
But even worse than this is the touch & movement of the screen. The tech said that this was deliberately done this way. I can’t believe it. He showed that if you are extremely deliberate with the movement of your finger, and actually use your fingernail, that the screen can be controlled. But after he used it a while, he finally agreed that it was not intuitive, and he said he would pass these two concerns to his management.
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Edited by - Don on 18 juil. 2009 20:27:59 |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 10 juil. 2009 : 21:16:46
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Yes it's got a bit of that "Google Earth inertia" that takes some getting used to, it looks fancy but I agree that on the road it might not be terribly handy.
Are you also seeing some slow map drawing when you scroll the map quickly ?
It's odd he would state it's a "navigation" device rather than "mapping" since the 1xx0 series had this new pedesrian mode that is more mapping than navigation...
In case you haven't read it you might want to take a look at the detailed preview I published on the portal, would be interesting to see if some of the problems (like map drawing) have been fixed. By the way what is the software version on your GPS ?
Here's a tip, you can activate the hidden raw logger mode of the 7x0 series with a long tap on the new "compass" in the trip computer screen. |
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jotne
Norway
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Posted - 10 juil. 2009 : 21:44:13
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If this is a unit to be used in a car while driven, it's some strange that you have to press the screen to see the street names. This takes away the drives focus.
I still do wait for Garmin to release a high end GPS that has all of the function we have asked for here at this site and at other sites. I do pay the cost if the GPS is good.
It seems that Garmin do add lots of stuff that the customer are not asking for, and remove functions that we love to use. |
Previously owned : GPS "eTrex Yellow" "GPSmap 76S" "GPSMap 60CS" "GPSMAP 60CSx" "Nüvi 660"
Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300" |
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TTM77
USA
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Posted - 10 juil. 2009 : 22:24:45
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Originally posted by Don
where the street names do not appear on the map, and the annoying “rubber-band” effect when moving the screen.
This street name not appearing annoyed me for weeks, but I kept thinking I didn't see the function to make it appear.. now I see u r having the same problem.
I find that the screen display very little... extremely little information. To see any info, you have to dig and dig and dig aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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MrT-Man
Canada
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Posted - 10 juil. 2009 : 22:28:42
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| I'm increasingly leaning towards a 7xx series. Except for City Xplorer, it doesn't sound like there's anything particularly compelling about the 1xxx series, & meanwhile there's things that are missing (biggest for me is the powered dock). I'd wait for newer models except I would suspect those are still a few months away. |
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SergZak
USA
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Posted - 10 juil. 2009 : 23:12:37
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No street names at all, even in Pedestrian mode? If true, that is simply ridiculous.
EDIT: I do realize that the screen shot is in fact the route preview screen.
So if I understand this 100% correctly, the 1xxx units show NO street names on the map screen AT ALL (even while on a route) unless you switch to map panning mode?
There goes the situational awareness aspect of owning a mapping unit...
How about the green navigation bar while NOT on a route...what does it display? The screen you're currently on or the next upcoming cross street? |
nüvi 855: UnitSW 4.6 nüvi 765: UnitSW 3.6 nüvi 760: UnitSW 4.8 - all on GTM 20/MSN Direct GDB 50 (1994 Mustang GT) nüvi 750: UnitSW 4.8 (2006 Toyota RAV4) - nüvi 250: UnitSW 5.0 (backup unit) Southern California |
Edited by - SergZak on 11 juil. 2009 00:29:02 |
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gpspassion
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Don
USA
106 Posts |
Posted - 11 juil. 2009 : 00:28:46
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Your preview screens accurately show the minimal amount of street and highway information. As you drive along, whether in map or navigation mode, the streets that you are passing and a few others, rather randomly pop up. This is true regardless of the map detail, which there are 3 levels (rather than 5 on my 760). It also does not matter the view or mode. If not in navigation mode, the top of the screen shows the street that you are on (rather than the cross street as on the 760).
I agree - it's not acceptable to be missing street names and to justify it by saying that this is not a "Mapping" device. I have a feeling that it will be considered a "bug" and will be fixed in a future software release. I understand the need for an uncluttered screen, but the street names should appear when you go into more detail, and/or zoom-in.
TTM77, you can get more screen info (except for street names!) by going to the MAP screen, scroll down to MAP DATA Layout, and select MORE DATA. This will bring up additional, customizable fields, however it takes up a third of the screen. But with the bigger screen, that might be OK. Gpspassion shows this on his detailed preview.
The “Google Earth inertia” is a good way to describe the heavy-way the screen feels, except that it goes into areas that you don’t want, and springs back quite often after you lift your finger. Perhaps I’ll get used to it, but hopefully this is also getting looked out by Garmin’s engineers.
The screen does seem fairly smooth and refreshes fairly quickly, although I’m comparing it against the slower 760. I’m on Software version 2.3 (just updated).
I'm going to test it a bit further before I give it a thumbs-up or down. So far, no stuttering or late directions (what a nightmare!). I like the idea of CityXplorer and the other pedestrian functions, and I really do like the larger screen, although it’s not as bright as my old 760, which had an unbelievably bright screen. Perhaps the screenshot that SergZak shows is only available with a CityXplorer download. Remember that it is a brand new product and operating system. It has most of the functions that I want, and not the ones that I don’t care much about. Everything is a tradeoff, and those that wait for a GPS that has everything, will probably wait forever...
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Captcaper
USA
170 Posts |
Posted - 11 juil. 2009 : 00:29:12
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| Does 2D show street names different then 3D usually on these Nuvis? Were the Street Pilots better at showing street names? |
Presently owned SP2610 SP2720 GPSMAP 276C GPSMAP 60CS NorthStar 951XD in the boat since 1996.
Previous owned Garmin 48,76cs,210. Nuvi 880,1490T. |
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gpspassion
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Posted - 11 juil. 2009 : 00:32:49
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To be honest I hadn't noticed any difference with my previous nuvis but I'll do some side by side comparisons to see if I'm missing something.
@Don - Thanks for clarifying, maybe you could make screen captures and share them with this method http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14251 so we can see what you mean exactly, I'll try to compare the naming with my 760 but I'm not sure it's any different, maybe when you search for an address and look at the result on the map ?
Yes Serg's screenshot is with CityExplorer maps as you can see the pedestrian/transit connexions.
Can you check the software and GPS versions in the about menu ? |
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