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gatorguy

USA
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Posted - 07 janv. 2009 :  15:36:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



Updated 06/27/2009 by GpsPasSion : v4.60 available via the Webupdater, update recommended as it will hopefully prevent bricked 8x5 systems like what happened to the 7x5 series. Direct downlonad link : http://www8.garmin.com/software/nuvi885T_460.exe

Updated 02/2009 by GpsPasSion - Nuvi 8x5 systems are now available in the US and we have some first user reviews such as Reddog's first impressions on page 5.

Unfortunately it seems that what should have been the "best of the nuvis" is in fact missing some features present on the "lower end" 765, such as background route calculation, no memory for previous towns entered, a custom data field, 3D buildings/landmarks...Hard to tell if it's a hardware limitation or software limitation (8x0 uses Linux), but the bottom line is that the "flagship" nüvi is lacking compared to lower end models.
Posted 01/2009 - New 8x5 range announced at CES 2009, "best of the nüvis" with a blend of the features of the 8x0 and 7x5 models. First model announced is the 885T :
quote:
Garmin#8217;s® nüvi® 885T Combines Voice Activation, Lane Assist with Junction View and Enhanced MSN Direct Services

LAS VEGAS, Nev./January 7, 2009/Business Wire #8212; Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN), the global leader in satellite navigation, today announced the nüvi 885T, adding lane assist with junction view as well as dynamic content from MSN Direct to a portable and powerful voice-activated navigator. The nüvi 885T was announced in conjunction with the 2009 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, and will be on display at the Garmin booth (South Hall 4, #35832).


Original post : details here:http://garmin.blogs.com/pr/2009/01/garmins-nvi-885.html#more?activeBranchId=newsroom

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Dewi

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Posted - 07 janv. 2009 :  16:59:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
“And with enhanced MSN Direct services, the nüvi 885T provides much-needed travel information like traffic updates, flight status, Doppler radar, gas prices, news and business headlines and a wireless ‘send to GPS’ capability.”

I guess flight status is already available on the Avis Where2 units, but it's interesting that they've added Doppler radar.
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danham

USA
7448 Posts

Posted - 07 janv. 2009 :  17:10:29  Show Profile  Visit danham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I assume they mean "weather radar," seeing as they would be pretty hard pressed to find radar which operates on something other than the Doppler principle [sigh].

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gpspassion

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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  01:04:20  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I did some formatting of the first message. So it seems we now finally have a "best" device at Garmin after the 860/765 confusion. Let's hope the 8x5 models have the speed of the 7x5 models as opposed to the sluggish perfomance of the 8x0 models...might have been a sofware issue on the 8x0 models.

I wonder if MSN v3 will be made available for free to 785 owners like MSN v2 was made available for free (not to 580/680 though).

I suppose other 8x5 models (855/865 ?) will be announced tomorrow.

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gatorguy

USA
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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  01:09:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 855 and 855T were announced today.

OOPS: Just noticed you had a thread started on those models.

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gpspassion

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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  01:22:36  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Actually we don't, it was just a catch-all and I added links. By "announced" I meant with a PR on Garmin's site and I'm not seeing one yet ? I adapted the title of this topic. Anyway it's a detail, can't wait to try out a new 8x5 system!

To really be the "best of nüvis" it will need to have the advanced "detour" options (distance and also drawing of a blocked area) of the 8x0/5000 that were missing on the 7x5. Maybe we can get some first reports about that at CES.

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gatorguy

USA
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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  01:41:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw a formal announcement a couple of hours ago. I'll see if I can find it again.

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Dewi

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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  01:46:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 855, 865T and 885T are all on Garmin's product pages now, with the 860/880 under "discontinued".

Edited by - Dewi on 08 janv. 2009 01:47:10
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gatorguy

USA
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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  01:49:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's also reported to be an 885 without traffic, about $100 less. But that's confusing. . . MSN without traffic??

EDIT: I've been told that the 885 won't include MSN. Certainly doesn't make the model differences very clear. The 855 and 865 did not get a "formal" press release today. For now I might chalk up the report of a traffic-less 885 to initial model confusion at CES. It just doesn't make sense to me.

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JB2610

USA
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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  01:51:46  Show Profile  Visit JB2610's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
"with the 860/880 under "discontinued".



Even the Edsel lasted longer than they did!

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NanaimoRick

Canada
7762 Posts

Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  03:50:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's the 850 that shows as discontinued on the Garmin website. The 860 which contains Europe maps only & may only be sold in Europe but doesn't show as discontinued on the NA or Europe websites (yet).

I'm in the process of updating http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=82414 , our Sticky which lists all the Nuvi models.

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Dewi

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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  04:02:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rick, you're right the 860 still appears on the European websites. On the NA website if you click on the "Series" link on Garmin's product page you'll notice that "nuvi 800 series" has been removed...only "nuvi 805 series" is listed.

Edited by - Dewi on 08 janv. 2009 04:02:44
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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  04:17:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agreed, but since it's still listed as available in Europe we'll leave it on our list for now.

The Garmin England site still lists the 860 at https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=134 . We continue to list the 300 and the 310 for the same reason.

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ZX14NINJA

Canada
1010 Posts

Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  04:56:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ZUMO 660 ANNOUNCED :

[MOVED TO http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=121771]

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synomenon

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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  05:32:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been waiting for these 8x5 units to be announced. Can't wait to pick one up!
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caryrae

USA
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Posted - 09 janv. 2009 :  00:03:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gpspassion


I wonder if MSN v3 will be made available for free to 785 owners like MSN v2 was made available for free (not to 580/680 though).



Looks like the new MSN features are available for the 7x5t and 2x5 nuvis.

quote:
Service Announcements and Software Updates Enhanced MSN Direct Smart Traffic coverage now available!
MSN Direct has expanded its traffic service significantly, more than tripling the number of metropolitan areas and adding new roads where speed information is delivered to navigation devices. This newly added road coverage is derived largely from mobile fleet vehicles equipped with GPS receivers. For coverage details view Service Availability in Your Area.
New Features!
Flight Status: Want to check your flight’s status before heading to the airport? Receive up-to-date status and schedules for flights arriving to and departing from your local airports.*
Doppler Weather Maps: See animated Doppler Weather Maps on your device. These will show current precipitation type (Rain/Mix/Snow) and intensity images for your area, how it has been changing, and can help you plan accordingly for your road trip.*

Software updates
For Garmin® devices: Please download the update containing improvements for MSN Direct at the Garmin WebUpdater. For Pioneer® devices: Please download the update containing improvements at the Pioneer website.



Here is the device list that can use the Flight status and doppler radar features. https://www.msndirect.com/data-compatibility.aspx

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jotne

Norway
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Posted - 09 janv. 2009 :  07:37:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"8x5 would be discontinued after 2 month and replaced by 8x6."

If Garmin would guarantee that no new model was introduced within the next year, and that new function was added to 8x5, I may have upgrade my 760.
I would be happy to pay some money for new software, but I do not understand why Garmin do not have good enough hardware with enough memory and CPU. This is 2009, and it should be possible.

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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 09 janv. 2009 :  15:38:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jotne

"8x5 would be discontinued after 2 month and replaced by 8x6."


Jotne, your attempting to make a joke, right? I have to ask because unsubstantiated statements like that just tend to confuse people.

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reddogg634

USA
230 Posts

Posted - 14 janv. 2009 :  03:07:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do any of you guys know if the new 8x5 series will have this feature that the new Zumo 660 is going to have (I assume the 8x0 series did not have this option):

"A new multiple routing feature customers can see a map preview of the proposed fastest route, shortest route and off road route prior to choosing to navigate it. This capability gives riders additional situational awareness before they begin their journey."

I would really love this feature on the 8x5 series or even the 7x5 series. In my line of work, it would be nice to have a "on the fly" option to preview the route real quick before selecting the one you want.

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gpspassion

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Posted - 14 janv. 2009 :  11:53:02  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Would certainly be nice as this useful feature is still quite rare, only iGO 8 has had it so far, and only on some versions like MioMap 2008 v1 on the Mio C620.

It seemed with the 8x5 that Garmin had stopped their annoying "feature peppering" approach, but if that feature isn't there, the 8x5 will loose its title as the "best of the nüvis" !

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jotne

Norway
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Posted - 14 janv. 2009 :  12:45:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rick
IT was a joke, but its some true also.
Garmin do release to many hardware version, to often.

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Dewi

623 Posts

Posted - 23 janv. 2009 :  17:37:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GPSMagazine has done a review of the 885T...
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gpspassion

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Posted - 23 janv. 2009 :  18:04:47  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the link, hope it's not another "review" like the one they did for the nüvi 550, 3 months before it was out, failing to describt most of its features and... problems. Being the first out of the gate doesn't make much sense in these conditions.

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SergZak

USA
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Posted - 28 janv. 2009 :  18:50:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For those interested, the nuvi 885 is now available for in-store pickup at Best Buy retail stores (at least here in SoCal).

You can download the 8x5 series manual here:
http://tinyurl.com/anthto


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gpspassion

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Posted - 28 janv. 2009 :  22:44:25  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah, user reports arent far then !

Finally got around to reading the gpsmag review and...duh, it seems Garmin have done it again, i.e. peperring features and not coming up with a "best of the nuvis" model...hardware limitation, software limitation (8x0 uses Linux) ? Bottom line is that several features are missing, was it worth killing the 8x0 so quickly just to add the "reality view" screens? I'd have to say no, unless the final model is different than the one reviewed, which seems unlikely.
quote:
The nüvi 885T is Garmin's flagship automotive GPS, and also the most expensive as of this writing. Yet the 885T lacks some important features found on the considerably less expensive nüvi 7x5 models. Compared to the nüvi 785T, for example, the nüvi 885T lacks 3D building view, 3D landmarks, and the ability to customize the data field to show remaining time, distance, elevation, or direction of travel. Also missing is the faster screen refresh rate found on the nüvi 7x5 models. Compared to the nüvi 7x5's ultra-smooth map scrolling capability, the 885T feels choppy, and more like the nüvi 2x5 series in terms of screen refresh rate.

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synomenon

621 Posts

Posted - 29 janv. 2009 :  06:20:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So does the 8x5 series have the faster screen refresh rate / response times of the 7x5 units?
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SergZak

USA
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Posted - 29 janv. 2009 :  06:29:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From gpspassion's quote above from the review:

"Also missing is the faster screen refresh rate found on the nüvi 7x5 models. Compared to the nüvi 7x5's ultra-smooth map scrolling capability, the 885T feels choppy, and more like the nüvi 2x5 series in terms of screen refresh rate."

Seem's like a somewhat pointless update of an entire unit series...

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synomenon

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Posted - 29 janv. 2009 :  07:41:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought the 2x5 series also got a screen refresh rate bump? Or is it that the 7x5 series just got a much larger bump?
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SergZak

USA
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Posted - 29 janv. 2009 :  12:06:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 2x5 series got a bump to ~4hz and the 7x5 series got a bump to ~8hz, both up from the long-time standard of 1hz. According to the review, the 8x5 did in fact get a bump up but only up to the 2x5's ~4hz. It may be that the processor is in fact the same speed as the 7x5's but just regulated to the level of the 2x5's to compensate for the voice recognition overhead. This will be revealed as soon as users post the processor info (if it's listed) from the diagnostics mode.

Edit: I've also noticed that the 8x5 does not (at least according to the Garmin website) have the 3D Buildings feature...also not mentioned is the new route preview feature of the zumo 660 mentioned by reddogg634 above nor ecoRoute...Oh well, so much for being the "best of the nuvis".

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gpspassion

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Posted - 29 janv. 2009 :  12:08:59  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wonder if they're not confusing it with another model, as seen in the video I posted at the time in the 2x5 topic map movements are really smooth to my eyes, certainly not "choppy" as one could decribe the 1Hz refresh rate.

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seh2000

USA
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Posted - 01 févr. 2009 :  19:46:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seams my prediction a few months back on my Nuvi 880 became a reality...Obsolete after less than 12 months ownership...

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gpspassion

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Posted - 01 févr. 2009 :  19:52:20  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
And one could argue that the 885, with its missing features compared to the 765, is obsolete even before its available!

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SergZak

USA
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Posted - 02 févr. 2009 :  18:33:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I visit http://www8.garmin.com/whatsNew/ on a daily basis...this is Garmin's "What's New" page and believe it or not, they still have the 850 and 880 listed here. Click on their links and it takes you to their respective pages with "Discontinued Product" status. Pretty sad how it got dumped/discontinued so quickly...I'll bet there are quite a few owners who are not very pleased with this.

EDIT: Garmin have since removed the 850 and 880 from the "What's New" page since I posted this...maybe they saw my post here.

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Dewi

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Posted - 05 févr. 2009 :  20:19:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
V4.30 software for the 855, 865T, and 885T is now available for download on Garmin's site.

Changes made from version 4.00 to 4.30:
- Adjust FM transmitter performance for Europe
- Improved category searching capability with newer maps
- Fixed Safety Camera announcements to be in the correct language
- Improved MSN Direct support
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gpspassion

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Posted - 05 févr. 2009 :  22:08:42  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So it's out is it? I'll change the name of the topic, will get users to post some comments hopefully ;-)

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mrbjr

USA
60 Posts

Posted - 06 févr. 2009 :  23:47:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Installed new f/w ver. 4.30 (from Ver 4.00)on my 880 and noticed that the map display went from Cream color to a " Pukey "green with gray roads..Has this happened to anyone else?
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SergZak

USA
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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  00:51:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@ mrbjr

Are you sure you're not looking at the traffic map? The colors you're describing sound much like the color scheme of the traffic map.

Some traffic map screen shots from the 7x5 series are here:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=122748#837233

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gpspassion

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  01:20:10  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good point, actually since we're on this topic, is there any way to revert back to the normal color scheme once you've looked up traffic, never found a way to do that on the 2x5 or 7x5!

@mrbjr - how do you like your...ok 880, er, did you mean 885 or are you just in the wrong topic ? ;-)

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SergZak

USA
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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  01:28:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If your moving map display is in Traffic Map mode (grey/black colors), simply press the traffic icon again, then press the Show Normal Map icon. The colors will then revert back to the Normal Map color scheme.

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gpspassion

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  01:37:15  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the tip!

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mrbjr

USA
60 Posts

Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  02:00:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
gpspassion, yes it is an 880, sorry about the wrong topic just trying to figure out what happened. I am quite disappointed with the 880 for many reasons...The color scheme I have now is nothing like SergZak's screen shots.. it is totally green with gray roads and is not a traffic screen... Maybe I will reinstall...
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SergZak

USA
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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  02:21:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can you maybe post a screen shot? You can find out the procedure here:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14251
(or upload it to PhotoBucket and link to it). If you do upload it to gpspassion, please convert it to .png or at least .jpg format since the default screen shot format from the nuvi is .bmp which is quite large.
You can enable screen shots on the nuvi using Tools>Settings>Display>Screen Shot and select Enabled. The screen shots are stored on the nuvi drive in x:/Garmin/screen shot (or a similar folder).

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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  02:34:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please use .jpg photos and not .png or .bmp. Also if you could please use our procedures for posting pictures as detailed in the link that SergZak posted. This insures that they remain available to all members and don't get moved, changed or deleted from your post.

Thanks.

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SergZak

USA
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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  02:49:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rick, I was once told by one of the mods here to use the png format (the reason I recommended it before jpg) since it tends to be a smaller size but without the jpg compression artifacting. Example:

Original file: 45.bmp: 391,734 bytes
saved as 45.png: 31,725 bytes
saved as 45.jpg: 44,251 bytes

Any insight or preference?

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NanaimoRick

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  04:13:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sure that gpspassion asked me to use .jpg when I did the Nuvi 780/TomTom 930 comparison last spring (http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=110142). I was using .png at the time, if I remember correctly, but since I can't find the e-mail at the moment I can't say for sure.

I'd say.jpg is probably the easiest for folks as most digital cameras default to that format anyway but lets keep this thread on track as we can discuss this 'off line' anytime.

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gpsaaa

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  05:51:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@ mrbjr
i think that's the 3d base map on the 880. prior to fw 4.30, you have to zoom way out to see it.
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reddogg634

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  06:18:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ahem...back on the new 8x5 series....I'm a little confused. I thought the 8x5 series was utilizing the new optimized firmware & user interface of the 7x5 and 2x5 series??? I saw a 885 at Best Buy and the user interface was not at all like my 765?? The + - keys were not round and together on the top right corner like the new interface, but instead, they were square and separated on each side of the screen like the old software. Also, there was no folder to access that gives you the last 5 previous cities or streets selected on address input. Then, I was expecting a tab to slide out of the left side of the "go" button like my 765 does to show me details of my route but that never happened either. Anyway...what gives???? Why would they simply not port over the 2x5 interface or better yet, the 7x5 user interface and firmware onto the new 8x5 series? I thought that was what the x5 series meant (same new improved interface as the other x5 series???).

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ChrisBWJ

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  09:11:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Having been burnt by the 880 myself, unless they've beefed up the processor speed AND updated the user interface I will be steering WAY clear of any 8xx series devices.....

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gpspassion

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  16:44:28  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@SergZak and NanaimoRick - sorry for the confusion .jpg for actual pictures and .png for screenshots ;-)

@reddogg634 - so it's even worse than I thought, it seems they just took an 880 and slapped on the "lane guidance" and "junction view" then? Even less reason to kill the 880 then.

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mrbjr

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  17:41:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is my screen shot



This is what I get in either North up or Track up,in 3D it reverts back to the normal screen colors.

Edited by - NanaimoRick on 18 févr. 2009 05:51:21
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SergZak

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  18:08:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@mrbjr
That is definitely the new 3D DEM (digital elevation model) basemap that is showing as gpsaaa had stated in his post on the previous page. Why your 8x0 model decided to display it along with the detail map is beyond comprehension. It could very well be a bug with the new firmware update (Garmin is never beyond producing buggy firmware).

You can easily disable the 3D DEM basemap by connecting your nuvi to your PC, then browse to the nuvi drive and rename the following file: x:/Garmin/gmapbmap.img to something like gmapbmap.img.disabled to let you know in the future that you've disabled it.

You should also report this to Garmin Tech Support: techsupp@garmin.com. This should also be moved to the appropriate topic since this topic is for the 8x5 series.


Back to the 885
: Going by reddogg634's description, it sounds like maybe he was looking at an 8x0 in the store rather than an 8x5. I would go back and verify that it was indeed an 885 since the both the screen shots listed at Garmin and also the .pdf owner's manual show all aspects of the 7x5's new UI ported over to the 8x5.

8x5 unit shots:
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=134&pID=33922#

8x5 owner's manual:
http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/nuvi855_OwnersManual.pdf

If they indeed have only ported over certain key aspects (like Junction View) of the 7x5 feature set/UI, this is not looking very good for Garmin nor purchasers of this new "high-end" nuvi.

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reddogg634

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  23:41:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You know it's possible Best Buy had the labeling wrong. I did double check and the unit was labeled 885. However, after looking at the screen shots and user manual, the unit at Best Buy did not have that new interface. Hopefully, Best Buy just screwed up their labeling and did not have the new 8x5 series on display.


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gpspassion

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Posted - 07 févr. 2009 :  23:51:13  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ok, just for the record, we're back to this list of missing features then, quoting my post from 01/28
quote:
Originally posted by gpspassion

Ah, user reports arent far then !

Finally got around to reading the gpsmag review and...duh, it seems Garmin have done it again, i.e. peperring features and not coming up with a "best of the nuvis" model...hardware limitation, software limitation (8x0 uses Linux) ? Bottom line is that several features are missing, was it worth killing the 8x0 so quickly just to add the "reality view" screens? I'd have to say no, unless the final model is different than the one reviewed, which seems unlikely.
quote:
The nüvi 885T is Garmin's flagship automotive GPS, and also the most expensive as of this writing. Yet the 885T lacks some important features found on the considerably less expensive nüvi 7x5 models. Compared to the nüvi 785T, for example, the nüvi 885T lacks 3D building view, 3D landmarks, and the ability to customize the data field to show remaining time, distance, elevation, or direction of travel. Also missing is the faster screen refresh rate found on the nüvi 7x5 models. Compared to the nüvi 7x5's ultra-smooth map scrolling capability, the 885T feels choppy, and more like the nüvi 2x5 series in terms of screen refresh rate.



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tigerhonaker

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Posted - 08 févr. 2009 :  07:51:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just read All the Post here and wonder if anyone actually has the 885T ???

It reads in the GPS Mag. like it is the Best GPS on the market right now.

So, just wondered if anyone here has this 885T yet and if so. What do you think about it ?

Thanks,

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downeastter

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Posted - 08 févr. 2009 :  18:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I have a 885T. Can't say much about yet as only have used around town. Will be using it for trip south later this month with the RV. That was the main reason for the purchase. It is an upgrade from my 660. All I can say so far is that it is a great upgrade from the 660. Really like the voice recognition. Seems like a much safer interface than touchscreen any day and worth the cost of the buy in over an existing touchscreen unit. The map page design is also much improved over the 660. Finally adding the next turn layout similar to the first Magellan Roadmate I owned over 10 years ago. Found that adding two speakers and facing them out the front of the case doesn't seem to increase the volume of the unit over the 660. Garmin still needs to work on that. Having an owner replaceable battery seems like a good step in the right direction. But, in reality I never had a problem with the battery in the 660. So maybe this feature will only prove useful to the next owner (tend to replace units every couple of years anyway).

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ggmach

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Posted - 12 févr. 2009 :  18:43:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is a HWID of 865 and 885? Is it different?
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RoughRider

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Posted - 12 févr. 2009 :  19:57:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote snipped]And while you're at it, is it different between the 8x0 and the 8x5?
Thanx

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jotne

Norway
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Posted - 13 févr. 2009 :  15:34:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
865T 010-00577-32
885T 010-00577-30
855 010-00577-31

So all do use the same hardware.

I tried to compare the 865T and 885T on Garmin com, but stupid Garmin does not list 865T
Maybe since it's EU version.
But for all product I do own, I do first go to www."manufacturer".com
com is not the same as US, but it seems that many do think so, including Garmin.

You do find the 865T on Garmins home page using google (garmin 865T)
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=33923

I do know that 885T has MSN and 865T has FM traffic, but that does not explain the $200 difference on the unit. 865T $480 and 885T $680 on eBay.
Have I missed something?

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ggmach

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Posted - 13 févr. 2009 :  17:25:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
010-00577-XX is the catalog number of unit, not HWID
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jotne

Norway
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Posted - 13 févr. 2009 :  18:27:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Then I do not know what the HWID is.
But what I do know is that if the 5 digit in the middle is the same, the hardware is the same on different units, like those listed above.

Previously owned : GPS "eTrex Yellow" "GPSmap 76S" "GPSMap 60CS" "GPSMAP 60CSx" "Nüvi 660"
Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300"

Edited by - jotne on 13 févr. 2009 22:05:16
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jotne

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Posted - 15 févr. 2009 :  10:35:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there any reason at all for me to upgrade from 760 to 865T?

And as I did ask above. What is the difference between 885T and 865T except MSN (and US vs EU maps)?

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Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300"
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gpspassion

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Posted - 15 févr. 2009 :  12:25:42  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't think so, but you'd certainly enjoy the 765, much faster screen update rate, junction view, that's really nice on motorways.

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jotne

Norway
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Posted - 15 févr. 2009 :  15:02:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
765 costs $450 at ebay and 865 costs $500
So 765 is faster than 865?

Not that many motorways here in Norway :)

Previously owned : GPS "eTrex Yellow" "GPSmap 76S" "GPSMap 60CS" "GPSMAP 60CSx" "Nüvi 660"
Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300"
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Boyd

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Posted - 15 févr. 2009 :  22:17:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking at the manual, I believe the the 8x5 series has several functions which the 7x5 doesn't support - AFAIK, these are only available on the 8x0, 8x5 and 5000 series:

Turn off auto zoom
Custom avoids (roads and areas)
Prompted detours
Backup camera input

So there might be a reason to choose an 8x5 if any of these are important to you. Also I'm assuming that you can still set "most" map detail, which is missing on the 7x5 (presumably due to performance issues with 3d buildings?).

Edited by - Boyd on 15 févr. 2009 22:19:11
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ZX14NINJA

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Posted - 16 févr. 2009 :  04:30:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Add Voice Command to that Boyd --
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SmithEC

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Posted - 24 févr. 2009 :  02:20:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm a new nuvi user. Can't compare the 885t to the previous models. I picked up an 885t and use it mostly in country and oilfield driving.

The routing seems to be solid. I drive a F-550 with a 30 foot trailer, so can't use suggested routes all the time. The unit recalculates very quickly.

I use a Razr v3xx. The bluetooth with this unit is rock-solid. Absolutely rock-solid.

The voice command function is simply not to be believed. It is just crazy how well it works. Very quickly picked up which commands can be skipped to get to what I really want. I haven't found a need for the POIs yet. Being oilfield use, I save many locations as waypoints. The names are sometimes unusual. This unit does an outstanding job of picking out these points. It easily recognizes such voice commands as Sugarek 1 or Karnei Gate. No matter how I say that first location, it picks it out. That second location is actually Karnei 3 Gate, but I leave that 3 out and it is able to tell what I want. In the mp3 function, I try more complicated groups like Hamilton, Joe Frank, and Reynolds and it picks it out flawlessy. All this to say that the voice command business is for real.

My F-550 is a diesel with no carpeting. It can be loud. Without the external mic, I had to speak loudly. With the mic, I speak comfortably and it's just incredible. That mic is well worth the money.

I suppose that FM txmitter is a bit under-powered. I'm never in the city, so it all still works well enough for me.


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Boyd

USA
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Posted - 24 févr. 2009 :  02:26:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ZX14NINJA

Add Voice Command to that Boyd --



Yeah, well I thought that was pretty obvious, but true nonetheless. I was trying to point out some of the more subtle differences which people might realize. Sorry for the omission...
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gpspassion

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Posted - 24 févr. 2009 :  02:31:18  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@SmithEC - welcome to the forums and thanks for sharing your experiences with the 885t. The VR engine also impressed me a lot when I first used it on the 860, it's still the best one I've used out there, not in the least because Garmin were clever enough to let you read menus instead of forcing you to memorize ready made commands like TomTom do with the GO 940.

Looking forward to using the 865, although the fact it's missing features compared to the 765 is a disappointment, a big one!

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jotne

Norway
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Posted - 24 févr. 2009 :  18:14:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And Garmin still have no zoom settings for POI on Nüvi.
If they come with a new model with this function added, I replaced my 760.

Previously owned : GPS "eTrex Yellow" "GPSmap 76S" "GPSMap 60CS" "GPSMAP 60CSx" "Nüvi 660"
Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300"

Edited by - jotne on 24 févr. 2009 18:16:44
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reddogg634

USA
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Posted - 27 févr. 2009 :  03:22:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I just got my 855 in today. I have to say, I'm a little let down coming from the 765 and the expectations I had. I was hoping they would have simply "ported over" the new user interface they were using now on the 7x5 series to the new 8x5 series and added the few extra features the 8xx series has....NOPE! Why not?? I have no clue. Instead, from what I have played with so far, it's like they created a more generic & less responsive user interface for the 8x5 series. Yes, it's better than the old 8xx series by far. But it's a downgrade from the 7x5 series (minus a few added features)..Why??

For instance, you would think that simple things that should now be standard on all of the new x5 user interfaces would be of course on the "flagship" 8x5 series. Nope! There is no excuse for this. Especially with the fact this Nuvi line is suppose to be the culmination of all the other new Nuv's. I mean simple things like the folder icon that lets you select the last 5 city selections so you don't have to enter the city every damn time!! This is not there on the "flag ship" of all nuvi's??? Hello!?!? This is a basic feature that is almost criminal that it is not there on this high caliber Nuvi. Also, the automated tab that slides out from the "GO" button on the 7x5 series that gives you the summary of your route with all the cool details (eta, distance, cost of gas, etc) is not there on the "flag ship" of Nuvi's?!? Last, but most important, the best feature of the new interface on the 7x5 series was how Garmin made the device start searching in the background as soon as you started entering the street and by the time the "GO" buttom showed up, the route was already calcualted and ready to go....This does not seem to happen on the "flag ship" of the Nuvi's?!? So arguably the best new programming Garmin has come up with that optimizes the search feature is coincidently absent on the 8x5 series? Once again....criminal.

So my question is: How can you sell the 8x5 series and represent it as your "flag ship" Nuvi when it's missing basic features and essential features of the new and improved user interface, programming and firmware of the 7x5 series??

On the flipside, yes, I like the fact this Nuvi has custom avoidances, prompted detours and auto zoom disabling. It also allows you to select which POI's you want displayed on the map. And, of course the VR is the bomb!! However, I still think I can enter the address manually quicker than waiting for it to prompt me between every verbal entry. All those prompts slow verbal input down. Still, the features and enhancements found on the 7x5 series that are missing on this "evolved" 8x5 Nuvi, overshadows the extra features you get mentioned above.

IMO, once again, Garmin misses the boat in making the one Nuvi with the best of all the features in one true "flagship" unit...sad. Just when I thought the 8x5 series was going to be the 7x5 series evolved....it actually was more like the 6xx series evolved with VR. Everything that works so great on the 7x5 series was conveniently left out of the 8x5 series...like a cruel joke.

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jotne

Norway
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Posted - 27 févr. 2009 :  07:46:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So you can see POI on the 855 without zooming inn all the way?
Can you set zoom level?


Previously owned : GPS "eTrex Yellow" "GPSmap 76S" "GPSMap 60CS" "GPSMAP 60CSx" "Nüvi 660"
Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300"
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reddogg634

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Posted - 27 févr. 2009 :  23:05:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jotne.
AFAIK you cannot set the zoom level. The 8x5 series only allows you to pick which category of POI's you want to display on the map. I've only had the unit for 2 days and have not really studied at what zoom level the POI's are displayed at by default. But as far as I know, you cannot override the unit's setting.

Shody
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jotne

Norway
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Posted - 28 févr. 2009 :  10:30:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So then you see the selected POI category at all zoom level?[ed - see PM]
On most Nüvi you see POI only at 30m 50m and 80m (3 highest zoom level)
Zooming to 120m 200m 300m and up, no POI unless you are navigating to one single selected POI.

Previously owned : GPS "eTrex Yellow" "GPSmap 76S" "GPSMap 60CS" "GPSMAP 60CSx" "Nüvi 660"
Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300"
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reddogg634

USA
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Posted - 01 mars 2009 :  16:41:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jotne.
I played around with my 855 last night for a bit. I enabled all the POI's for map view. You will be happy to know that the POI's seem to show up on the map at all the zoom levels I tried: 300ft, 500ft, 800ft, .2 mile, etc. Now I did not have a route active. I was just browsing the map and I could see all the POI icons at these diff. zoom levels. So I guess you can pretty much now see the POI's at most zoom levels. I hope this answers your question.

Shody
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jotne

Norway
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Posted - 01 mars 2009 :  18:32:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks.

It may look like Garmin finally has listen to all the complains about POI zoom levels.

But from what you write, you are some disappointed about 855 compare to the 765.

Previously owned : GPS "eTrex Yellow" "GPSmap 76S" "GPSMap 60CS" "GPSMAP 60CSx" "Nüvi 660"
Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300"
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gpspoi

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Posted - 02 mars 2009 :  17:07:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the best thing we can do is bombard Garmin's support site and blog with complaints about this 885T downgrade. No excuse for it.

quote:
Originally posted by reddogg634

Well I just got my 855 in today. I have to say, I'm a little let down coming from the 765 and the expectations I had. I was hoping they would have simply "ported over" the new user interface they were using now on the 7x5 series to the new 8x5 series and added the few extra features the 8xx series has....NOPE! Why not?? I have no clue. Instead, from what I have played with so far, it's like they created a more generic & less responsive user interface for the 8x5 series. Yes, it's better than the old 8xx series by far. But it's a downgrade from the 7x5 series (minus a few added features)..Why??

For instance, you would think that simple things that should now be standard on all of the new x5 user interfaces would be of course on the "flagship" 8x5 series. Nope! There is no excuse for this. Especially with the fact this Nuvi line is suppose to be the culmination of all the other new Nuv's. I mean simple things like the folder icon that lets you select the last 5 city selections so you don't have to enter the city every damn time!! This is not there on the "flag ship" of all nuvi's??? Hello!?!? This is a basic feature that is almost criminal that it is not there on this high caliber Nuvi. Also, the automated tab that slides out from the "GO" button on the 7x5 series that gives you the summary of your route with all the cool details (eta, distance, cost of gas, etc) is not there on the "flag ship" of Nuvi's?!? Last, but most important, the best feature of the new interface on the 7x5 series was how Garmin made the device start searching in the background as soon as you started entering the street and by the time the "GO" buttom showed up, the route was already calcualted and ready to go....This does not seem to happen on the "flag ship" of the Nuvi's?!? So arguably the best new programming Garmin has come up with that optimizes the search feature is coincidently absent on the 8x5 series? Once again....criminal.

So my question is: How can you sell the 8x5 series and represent it as your "flag ship" Nuvi when it's missing basic features and essential features of the new and improved user interface, programming and firmware of the 7x5 series??

On the flipside, yes, I like the fact this Nuvi has custom avoidances, prompted detours and auto zoom disabling. It also allows you to select which POI's you want displayed on the map. And, of course the VR is the bomb!! However, I still think I can enter the address manually quicker than waiting for it to prompt me between every verbal entry. All those prompts slow verbal input down. Still, the features and enhancements found on the 7x5 series that are missing on this "evolved" 8x5 Nuvi, overshadows the extra features you get mentioned above.

IMO, once again, Garmin misses the boat in making the one Nuvi with the best of all the features in one true "flagship" unit...sad. Just when I thought the 8x5 series was going to be the 7x5 series evolved....it actually was more like the 6xx series evolved with VR. Everything that works so great on the 7x5 series was conveniently left out of the 8x5 series...like a cruel joke.

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cperk

USA
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Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  15:00:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found a problem with the upgrade to SW ver 4.30. This upgrade screws up your option for displaying POI's on the screen. If you look at the option which says disabled, you sill see numerous icons on the screen. When you go in and look at which POI's are selected, I found several under the "Community" category that say "show". If you try to deselect the option nothing happens. I spoke with Garmin support, who stated they are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. They suggested that I roll back to SW 4.20. I did this and it resolved the problem where I could switch the buttons to show or hide, but did not solve the icons on the screen problem.

My 850 had the same problem with the 4.30 update, as far as being able to sut the options off unnder communnity. However no icons ever showed up on the map. The 850 has map 2009, while the 885 was upgraded to maps 2009.11.

Originally, when new the 885 did not have this problem while running map 2009. That leads me to think there is also a problem with the map upgrade.

Anyone else have this problem?

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SergZak

USA
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Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  15:44:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There have been numerous problems with the v2009.11 maps on other units as well which also makes me believe that the problems are with those maps. First problem that comes to mind is entire detail map sections being blanked out on the 7x5 series in parks/Indian reservations and other similar areas. This was fixed via a firmware "band-aid" fix. Other units (2x5 series I believe) have had issues as well which Garmin has attempted to repair via firmware updates. Seems like the main issue is indeed the maps but rather than Garmin releasing a new map version to correct the issues, they are attempting the band-aid approach so they can retain their "four map updates per year" schedule. Hopefully, the next upcoming map update won't have issues again, this time with the firmware "fixes" that addressed the issues with v2009.11.

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Edited by - SergZak on 04 mars 2009 15:45:56
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paolom

Canada
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Posted - 11 mars 2009 :  17:15:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
stay away from this paper weight it is a piece of Junk! I had a 880 and it was alot better than the 885t. I'm returning mine to gpscity.ca and taking a loss due to the restocking fee. The unit mapping is terrible I was using the latest 2009 map updates and it was not showing a lot of streets as I was driving. I wish I could have my old 880 back. My question is what is the best unit to get with the voice regonition? and not spend as much? and processes faster? I heard there was a 700 series but cannot find the model if anyone knows please let me know.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 11 mars 2009 :  17:22:47  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's one thing for the 885 to be an "incremental" update over the 880, but I can't see how it would be worse ? I wonder if I didn't see some comments about problems with the Canadia 2009 maps, NanaimoRick can set us straight on that I'm sure ;-)

No VR on the 7x5 but you might be interested in this topic : Happy I went from 885t to a 765t ! Zoom question ?

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paolom

Canada
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Posted - 11 mars 2009 :  17:26:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
trust me it is worse! if you can direct me to the post "NanaimoRick" by problems with the Canadia 2009 maps,please let me know.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 06 avr. 2009 :  00:34:51  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Might be worth it for 8x5 users to try this newly discovered tip to activate the raw logging mode : http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=98909

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sooby77

87 Posts

Posted - 10 avr. 2009 :  03:26:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I took the 885T to NY City last weekend, and wasn't NOT particularly impressed. For one thing, the map drawing was so archaic/cartoonish that when faced with multiple tight junctions, the map is so unclear on which lane to take. This is particularly a problem in NY and large cities with complicated junctions. On several occasions, the device randomly rebooted. This is with the latest updated firmware. I zoomed in tightly on those tight junctions and the unit randomly zoom out whenever it pleases. Sometimes the zoom will stick and sometimes it won't. The voice recognition is OK, not particularly impressed. It seems to have trouble hearing me half the time correctly even with the radio turned off.

Navigon's map drawing is light years ahead and much clearer. I used the 7100 last year and liked it. But the slow gps acquisition time and the unresponsive screen prompted me to return it. One more thing, the 885T had so much trouble in NYC and kept 'recalculating.' But I expected that since I know that most unit have trouble in 'urban canyons.'

Overall, a C- grade.

Edited by - sooby77 on 10 avr. 2009 03:28:24
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gpspassion

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Posted - 10 avr. 2009 :  14:21:18  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for sharing, more bad news for the ex-"best of the nuvis" then...It is one of the rare nuvis where you can deactivate the autozoom though, that might help.

Can you check if the raw logging mode tip I linked above works?

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whitehme

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 15 avr. 2009 :  00:06:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just picked up this model despite some of the drawbacks. I need to get the latest updates to see if any of the issues are addressed.

For me it was very important to get a model with a removable battery. I previously had a TomTom Go 920 and the built-in battery lasted only a year.
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cperk

USA
68 Posts

Posted - 01 mai 2009 :  23:26:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well folks, the problems with my 885t continue. I have had numerous conversations and e-mails with Mark Seibert at Garmin. This was only after writing the CEO Min Kao and telling him how Garmin is ripping off its customers. While most of the e-mails replies were that "Garmin is aware of the problem and we're working on a fix" no other solution was offered. Today I finally got an e-mail telling me to send my 885t back and they will swap it out with a new one. I don't believe the problem lies with the unit rather with the developers at Garmin. Seems they trying too hard to put fancy additions to their new line without seeing if they work first. I am going to research filing a complaint with my Attorney General's office to see if I can get a class action brought against Garmin. It's obvious that they are turning out junk by reading these forums.

On a lighter note, I just picked up a TomTom Rider 2 for my motorcycle which I find is pretty awsome. I bought it at my local Best Buy for $199.99. That's $500.00 cheaper than the Zumo, and it's not a Garmin. I had to call Tomtom a couple of times with questions on the unit, and I reached support in a matter of minutes. With Garmin I was on hold for hours. Just goes to show that Tomtom may be serious about they're customer satisfaction.

I'll let everyone know how the new 885t works out, but I don't have high expectations. Some of the same problems plague my 850 too but no offer was made to exchange that one even though its less than a year old. I am through with Garmin they can keep they're high priced paper weights.

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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 02 juin 2009 :  11:01:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I ended up purchasing the 855. Had to return 2 back so far as the GarminDevice.xml file was getting corrupted each time after disconnecting from the computer. Might have beena bad batch. Ordered from antother store and saved $100. It's on it way, and I hope it will be functioning as it should.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 03 juin 2009 :  01:50:29  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Let's hope so, keep us posted! So many problems with these 8xx models :-(

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equalizer

6 Posts

Posted - 03 juin 2009 :  03:06:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wanted to say, I LOVE my 885T! True, I don't use the voice as much as I did originally, so perhaps the 765 is better for someone who definitely doesn't need voice.
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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 05 juin 2009 :  22:21:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 3rd one just went back today (purchased from a different vendor). Same old problem. The next one coming will only connect to my Mac. Seems like trouble arises when connecting to Windows. The GarminDevice.xml file is continually getting corrupted. I'll keep the unit at the original firmware software version this time for awhile. Strange that the last couple Garmin reps told me that they have had no issues with the Nuvi 855 or 885T.
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roadshow

USA
62 Posts

Posted - 06 juin 2009 :  01:49:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't had any issues connecting my 885 T.
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equalizer

6 Posts

Posted - 06 juin 2009 :  06:41:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I connect mine to my Windows running under emulation with no problem (Win2K SP3). Sorry to hear you're having a very bad run, I am not sure what else it could be. Is there anything potentially troublesome with your USB ports or drivers, or are they stock/built into the machine? Sometimes add-on USB cards exhibit some issues in general, I seem to remember.
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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 06 juin 2009 :  11:16:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The PC I purchased was from ATS, built by them. That's all I know.
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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 19 juin 2009 :  00:47:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just got my 4th Nuvi 855. It will only see my Mac and I won't be updating it for awhile, at least not until our trip in a month. Sad thing is that I detected a small bright green "hot" pixel in the bottom right corner. Is there any way of massaging these out? It's not really that bad, just disappointing since I've gone through 3 already.
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equalizer

6 Posts

Posted - 19 juin 2009 :  04:21:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not that I know of. Probably best just to try to get another replacement. ;( (or you could try using a fine tip permanent marker to dot out the spot where the bright pixel is, but obviously that wouldn't be very nice now, would it...) Only thing is with LCDs, normally there is fine print somewhere saying you're not guaranteed to NOT get dead pixels - not sure if that applies to GPS. Considering this is top of the line portable GPS, I think you definitely deserve to get a unit that works and does NOT have dead pixels, but I know you're tiring of all the back and forth.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 25 juin 2009 :  02:29:43  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mandatory GPS firmware update to soon be available : http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=127242

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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 25 juin 2009 :  02:59:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suppose it'll be a bit before they put out the one for the 855. With al the hassles I've had with the previous 3 units, I really don't want to face another issue. SO, this update is supposed to eliminate any of these failures to reboot? Should one rush into applying these updates? How do we know another issue won't arise from it? I suppose one should apply the update before having it fail to reboot.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 25 juin 2009 :  12:08:14  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Based on the 7x5 horror stories, I'd update my 8x5 in a hurry, not available yet though, please join the topic I linked above for an update.

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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 25 juin 2009 :  14:15:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Boy, I suppose I'd better not even turn the Nuvi on until that update is released. And I'm planning a 14,000 km trip (8000 miles) in 3 weeks! Not a good time for it to give me troubles.
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NanaimoRick

Canada
7762 Posts

Posted - 25 juin 2009 :  15:49:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not turning it on until the fix is available would be a very good idea. Attaching it to your computer using the USB cable so it goes into USB mode would be fine as that's the only way you are going to get the update through Webupdater.

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gentzel

9 Posts

Posted - 25 juin 2009 :  21:28:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see no reason to avoid turning on your nuvi. "Bricked" 7x5 units are easy to restore by opening them up and pulling the battery for a few seconds. Unfortunately the 7x5 series doesn't have a user replaceable battery so this officially (if not likely in practice) voids the warranty. With the 8x5 units, pulling the battery is trivial.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 25 juin 2009 :  21:31:48  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Easier said than done...it seems taking out the battery doesn't produce the same effects on the 8xx models than on the 7x5, possibly because there is a backup battery on the 8xx. Those of use who had their 8xx get "corrupted" for some reason during a failed update never to see it power up again can testify :-(

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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 25 juin 2009 :  22:19:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone know how long Garmin usually takes in getting out an important update like this (for the Nuvi 855)? I've got 3 weeks to go before we leave, and I really don't want to deal with this just a few days before.
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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 25 juin 2009 :  23:25:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mandatory = Important = Fast

The 7x5 fix was out within a day or 2 of the problem being identified. I'd expect the 8X5 fix wouldn't be more than a few days off, certainly not weeks, IMO.

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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 26 juin 2009 :  23:54:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The update is now available using webupdater, see:

http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4121


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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 27 juin 2009 :  03:06:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I started the download with WebUpdater, got to 76% and then an error popped up with an error communicating with the server. Must be a bit busy? I'll have to try again later.
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albertr

14 Posts

Posted - 27 juin 2009 :  04:17:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a direct download link:

http://www8.garmin.com/software/nuvi885T_460.exe

-albertr
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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 27 juin 2009 :  11:37:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's an .exe file and I don't think I'll ever connect the Nuvi to my Windows PC again with the problems I had with 3 units, for some strange reason. I'm trying WebUpdater again. Hopefully it works.

Continued : Worked like a charm. Let's hope the Nuvi does for the rest of the summer, at least.
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NefCanuck

Canada
12 Posts

Posted - 01 juil. 2009 :  22:37:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I posted this question in a different forum but seeing as how there are users of the 8x5 series posting here thought I'd try my question here as well.

I recently bought a Garmin 855 and updated everything possible before taking it on the road.

My issue is even after setting a "Home" address for the Garmin, the VR software doesn't recognize the "Go Home" command at all (But recognizes any of the others I care to try)

I've also tried variations like "Home" "Navigate Home" but the only way to engage to the command is to actually hit the touchscreen, which kind of makes the whole VR thing useless :(

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You *CAN* get there from here... With a GPS ;)
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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 01 juil. 2009 :  22:43:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting. I'll have to try mine.
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equalizer

6 Posts

Posted - 02 juil. 2009 :  07:01:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Go Home has worked for me in the past, but I haven't tried on the latest firmware. I'll give it a go...
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albertr

14 Posts

Posted - 02 juil. 2009 :  17:09:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does work on my 885t (fw v.4.60). "Navigate", then "Go home".

-albertr
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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 02 juil. 2009 :  17:42:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Using my remote for voice activation works fine with the Go Home command for me. One thing I have noticed is that I have to repeat myself on occasion to get the unit to hear me correctly.
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NefCanuck

Canada
12 Posts

Posted - 02 juil. 2009 :  17:45:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
albertr

So you have to say "Navigate" first before the "Go Home"?

The "manual" that came with the 855 made no mention of that O_o

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crsonni

Canada
101 Posts

Posted - 02 juil. 2009 :  17:48:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On my 855 I have to first say "Where to?" and then I say "Go Home". Can't do it any other way. Maybe that's your issue.
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albertr

14 Posts

Posted - 03 juil. 2009 :  14:35:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Navigate" brings me into "Where to?" menu. I didn't try to say "Where to". I'll try to say "Go home" directly from map view screen and let you know ...

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bluzark

Belgium
95 Posts

Posted - 10 juil. 2009 :  08:58:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just got the message that the nüvi 865T Europe got the status of END OF LIFE. what is up with that

garmin is the way.
nuvi 300 > nuvi 350 > nuvi 660 > nuvi 255WT
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gpspassion

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Posted - 10 juil. 2009 :  21:47:15  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Already, even worse than the 8x0 models ! But what message exactly ?

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bluzark

Belgium
95 Posts

Posted - 17 juil. 2009 :  11:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GARMIN AUTOMOTIVE "Hightech" (1)
GPIAUT0100071521 NUVI 765T BT (Internal memory preloaded Europe) 299,00 24 X 03,09,02
GPIAUT010007152F NUVI 765 T + NUMAPS LIFETIME UPDATE EUROPE - Temporary action-available from 15/7/09-Limited stock 329,00 24 X 03,09,02
GPIAUT0100071510 NUVI 775T BT (Internal memory preloaded Europe & North America) 349,00 24 X 03,09,02
GPIAUT0100063925 NUVI 5000 (Internal memory preloaded Europe) (jusqu'à épuis stock) 499,00 18 03,09,02

also..
the nüvi 755T and nüvi 865T disappeared from the list

(this information is not classified)


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bm196

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 19 juil. 2009 :  01:12:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm. Looking at my 855 power cradle from the rear, with the 855 mounted. There is the power connection on the left, and a port (Iassume for microphone) on the right. No others.
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synomenon

621 Posts

Posted - 19 juil. 2009 :  08:41:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bm196

Hmmm. Looking at my 855 power cradle from the rear, with the 855 mounted. There is the power connection on the left, and a port (Iassume for microphone) on the right. No others.



My mistake. I was looking at a Nuvi 5000 mount.
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synomenon

621 Posts

Posted - 15 août 2009 :  12:06:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure if this is normal, but when I go into the menu where you choose which POIs to display, some POIs cannot be changed. For example, the auto fuel POI cannot be changed to hidden. When I tap on the "Show" button, it does not change.
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telrod11

25 Posts

Posted - 17 août 2009 :  15:11:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just ordered the 855 from Amazon, and am awaiting it's arrival, but could you guys answer a VR ? for me? I see that there is a remote to activate VR, but knowing the way I lose things, can you use VR w/o the remote? I travel with mine, and I bought it for the VR, but I don't want to leave the remote in the rental car, so I'm wondering, could i leave the remote at home and still use VR?

TIA
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gpspassion

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Posted - 17 août 2009 :  15:16:15  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No, the remote is what makes the 8xx models unique, if you have to tap on a screen it defeats the purpose of VR. The remote is the best thing about these models actually, it's tiny and pretty invisible. If you don't want to leave it on your car just unclip it, takes about 1 second.

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roadshow

USA
62 Posts

Posted - 17 août 2009 :  15:20:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It mounts to your steering wheel. You won't lose it.
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gpspassion

94154 Posts

Posted - 17 août 2009 :  15:24:00  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes should have specified that, found a picture I had put on the www.naviblog.com - http://www.flickr.com/photos/gpspassion/2656317092/


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telrod11

25 Posts

Posted - 17 août 2009 :  15:37:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pretty sweet looking gadget.. :)
I think you're right, if I clip it to the wheel in an obvious place I should be good to go...

Thx
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synomenon

621 Posts

Posted - 29 août 2009 :  09:36:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What are the differences in GPS chipset between the 885T and 765T?

When I used the 765T it would always lose satellite lock when in my work's parking garage. The 885T does not lose lock in the garage.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 29 août 2009 :  12:21:21  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
None normally, they both use the MTK v1 chipset -> http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=259

Their overall design is different so their GPS sensitivity is going to be different too and the 7x0 models were shown not to be very good in that area (see http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=102346) - different software too.

In any case a GPS is not designed or normally useful in a parking garage so I'm not sure it's a fair comparison ;-)

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NefCanuck

Canada
12 Posts

Posted - 09 sept. 2009 :  06:09:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gpspassion
In any case a GPS is not designed or normally useful in a parking garage so I'm not sure it's a fair comparison ;-)



Actually having a GPS that can deal with at least a one level parking garage is useful in one important detail.

When you set out on your trip, if the GPS can in fact get a lock while you are underground it means that by the time you emerge to go out on to the roadway your route is already planned and you don't lose any time waiting for the GPS to catch up to you (I have that issue with my 855, but I'm on the second level down in my parking garage so I'm even deeper in the hole, pun intended )

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gpspassion

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Posted - 09 sept. 2009 :  19:20:10  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, but no GPS can get a lock underground (either IsLNdbOi was seeing the "tunnel emulation" of Garmin systems or if he stil had a fix it was too inacurate to be useful, see GPS Chipsets and Receivers Compared - 6. Indoor Use), be it the first or the second level, the only known fix is to use a fixed car system that has a gyro and connection to the wheels, not sure it's worth the investment ;-)

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synomenon

621 Posts

Posted - 10 sept. 2009 :  06:57:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know what I'm seeing, but it's an above ground, six level parking garage. No matter which floor I park on (below the top floor), the 885T keeps satellite lock (or that tunnel emulation you mention). The 765T would lose lock as soon as I drove into the first floor of the garage.
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gpspassion

94154 Posts

Posted - 10 sept. 2009 :  10:53:03  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah it's above ground, ok, you can look at the satellite screen to see what's going on with the level and quality of the fix.

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freestyler

Romania
43 Posts

Posted - 13 nov. 2009 :  17:05:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello, I am about to buy myself a nuvi 865T, is it worth it?...over the nuvi 760
And if you know, does it have photo navigation?
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freestyler

Romania
43 Posts

Posted - 07 déc. 2009 :  17:25:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've bought the nuvi 865t, and I am happy with it, now I've noticed something strange...when I enter the secret menu by pressing on the speedometer, after exiting from that menu it makes 2 more options on tools menu, "test" and "usb switcher", I can acces both this functions from the tools menu, and all the other stuff that are hidden in the diagnostics menu by pressing the battery icon, after a restart of the unit, the restart with 8 sec holding the power switch, the options test and usb switcher dissapers from the tools menu, but after entering the secret menu on the speedometer it apears again

Has someone else experienced this?

Sorry if my english is bad
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SergZak

USA
1805 Posts

Posted - 07 déc. 2009 :  21:11:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[ed] This is normal. Sliding/holding the power switch to the left for ~10 seconds or removing/replacing the battery will reset the unit and you'll have to reactivate the hidden menu once again.

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freestyler

Romania
43 Posts

Posted - 09 déc. 2009 :  12:46:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, nice info on this, I really like the test menu new option, and the more user friendly options it gives also more options than the nuvi 760, it also has a mic gain, that's nice
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diaz425

USA
125 Posts

Posted - 05 janv. 2010 :  08:03:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i just bought 1 yesterday at compusa. so far best garmin i own. i own 765 and had the 760. map detail is better than the 765 just like the 760. you can enable or disable poi view (i use 2d map view) poi is seeing at .2 mile. faster reponse than 765. doesnt have 3d building view and no bluetooth (i dont care about). its like having the 760 and 765 in 1 plus extra extra features. for $200 ($259 with 3 year warranty and tax)

Own - Nuvi 1390
Own - Nuvi 855


Edited by - diaz425 on 05 janv. 2010 08:19:20
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nuvi350fan

USA
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Posted - 27 janv. 2010 :  06:06:17  Show Profile  Visit nuvi350fan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am trying to find how to disable keytones in Nuvi 855. I have been using Nuvi 350 for almost past 4 years. Just got my 855 and it irritates me a whole lot with the beep beep on pressing anything on keyboard. I don't want to mute the whole volume everytime I press any keys. Nuvi 350 had it. Am I missing something basic? I went through almost all of menus

Thanks
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JimD

USA
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Posted - 08 avr. 2010 :  16:16:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought a 885t, rebuilt, from Amazon a few weeks ago. My original nuvi was a 350 my daughter now uses and my next was a 760 which I use now in my truck. The 885t is in my BMW convertible.

I like my 885t. I had no problem upgrading to the 4.6 release of the software other than it takes a really long time (I was using about a 1 year old HP desktop running Vista). The only issue I have with the 885t is the skip a track button on the MP3 player only works every 5 or six touches. I really like the voice commands and have successfully used them including with the top down on my convertible at highway speeds. I find it takes my attention off the road for a bit long to touch exactly the right spot on the nuvi screen. It is much easier to find the little button on the steering wheel by touch without looking. The GPS comes up quicker on the 885 than my other nuvis. I also like having a constant indication of speed of my bimmer, the speedometer is off 3-4 mph. The 760 shows speed but not if you are navigating. I also like having the next turn displayed in the upper left corner of the screen all the time. I have not seen the fancier turn guidance but just knowing which direction the turn is without having to touch the lower right corner on my 760 is helpful.

I also like the MSN. I do not read the news headlines while driving but the gas station price info is nice, the weather forcast and radar map are good to have available, and the traffic information seems better than the FM info I get in the 760. I also used the 885t with the 760s traffic power cord and it received the traffic signals fine. So when the MSN goes away that is probably what I will do. I wish the gas stations updated more often and looked forward when you are navigating. When going 70+ down the highway, it isn't terribly useful unless you want to turn around.

Maybe the 765t is better in some ways but my 885t is obviously better than my 760 and 350. It is a nice GPS.

I am also not interested in Garmins latest GPSs because they lack a MP3 player. I like the integration of playing music on trips out of the nuvi so it also gives me navigation through the car speakers and handles phone calls. I have 64 play lists and over 600 songs in my nuvis so I have a decent selection to listen to.

Jim
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equalizer

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Posted - 09 avr. 2010 :  10:37:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Jim, I agree - that Mp3 skip function is annoying (and I don't know why they can't fix it via update).

I am curious, what voice commands do you use the most? Other than View Map I always forgot what else to use, so I am curious if you have a quick list of what is actually most useful in practice, as it would be great to get more utility out of mine.

On the gas prices - when you search for a location, you can search near current location, destination, or along route. Have you tried the latter? That way even on the highway it gives you a constantly updating list of fast food/gas/etc. that's coming up, sorted by distance. I think you mean when you search by price directly though, perhaps there is no such option there (I stopped using the MSN when my subscription expired).
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JimD

USA
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Posted - 16 oct. 2010 :  18:06:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
equalizer,

I have not looked at this thread in a really long time so I did not see your questions until just now.

Normally, the commands I use are "music player", then "play", then "view map". I wish the music player automatically restarted like it does on my 760 but being able to start it with voice commands is the next best thing.

I also occasionally start a playlist by saying the name. Usually I cannot remember the name I gave them. If I had been more clever when I created them it would probably help. When I can remember the name, it saves a lot of paging through screens. Although, again, it is nice to be able to just say "page down" instead of having to repeatedly touch the screen.

Jim
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Atlee

9 Posts

Posted - 25 avr. 2011 :  05:45:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thought I'd post this for anyone who still has a 8x5 Nuvi.

I just bought a replacement for a 855 that I either lost or had stolen out of the car. I don't know if it fell from my jacket pocket or if I left it in the car with the door unlocked.

In any event, I just purchased a factory refurbished unit from Amazon.

It came with a one year guarantee in the box, and tonight when I registered it, Garmin informed me I was eligible for a map update.

Now I have the North America NT2011.40 map. It also shows having FW Version 4.80. It has Worldwide Map Auto Route DEM Base Map NR4.00. GPS SW version 2.90m

I used it to go from Ashland, VA to a resturant in Fredricksburg, VA today by avoiding I95 which was it's typical parking lot at the Atlee/Elmont exit on holidays and other heavily traveled days. Worked without a hitch, so far.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 27 avr. 2011 :  07:56:52  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forums and thanks for the info on the new v4.80 version, I'll update the title of the topic.

Yes what's nice with Garmin refurbs is that 60 day map guarantee is fully valid so you can get the latest maps as if it were this year's model ;-)

The 8x0 and 8x5 series were interesting devices with the tiny remote for Voice Commands but plagued by unresolved software problems (frozen device) like speedcam alerts for mobile cameras, mostly a problem in Europe.

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JimD

USA
132 Posts

Posted - 28 avr. 2011 :  02:56:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do not use speedcam or redlight alerts but I do have alerts on my 885 for restrooms along the interstate and for my house (just for fun). Despite these POI alerts, the same as speedcam alerts except for purpose, my 885 doesn't lock up. I've pulled the battery to rest it maybe once a year. That's more than my 760 but not a big issue to me. I don't think I've had to do it in a couple years. It's really nice to be able to make phone calls, call up music, find favorites or POIs all without touching the nuvi. I'll trade a once a year reboot for that.

Jim
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gpspassion

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Posted - 28 avr. 2011 :  04:32:55  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Looks like it certainly works for you. Speedcams are different as there is a speed component involved, that's what the 8x0 and 8x5's software seemed to be having problems handling in Europe.

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JimD

USA
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Posted - 28 avr. 2011 :  22:38:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess you are saying that my 885 might not like it if I programmed it to do speed alerts. I do not know, I haven't tried. I believe proximetry alerts, like I use for rest rooms, are another way to warn of speed cameras and these should work like my rest room alerts - rather well. But I can see that it would be handier to only get the alert if I needed it - if I was going fast enough to get in trouble.
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alandb

483 Posts

Posted - 28 avr. 2011 :  23:23:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had no problem with the camera alerts (POI Factory speed and red light camera files) on my nuvi 855. I have had some lock ups related to proximity alerts when they are too dense (too many in given area with a large alert distance creating multiple simultaneous alerts). But the speed/red light camera alerts using the default settings seem to work well on my nuvi 855.

Alan - nuvi's - 3597LMTHD 855 755T, Oregon 550, Lowrance Endura Sierra

Edited by - alandb on 28 avr. 2011 23:25:08
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gpspassion

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Posted - 29 avr. 2011 :  02:03:13  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Based on my testing and experience of others in Europe, and confirmed by Garmin France at the time I may add, the mobile speedcams (not the fixed speedcams for some reason) created problems on the 8x0 series. You mention "lockups" due to density...the bottom line is that there's a bug (that also plagues the 1490 for some reason) that no other Garmin GPS systems have been reported to have and that Garmin never managed to fix.

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