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grandknight
USA
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 Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 15:09:17
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www.garmin.com/ecoroute
Updated 20090120 - EcoRoute update available on the nüvi 7x5, >> first comments << on page 2, Some screen shots by SergZak
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ecoRoute™ from Garmin® Helps Drivers Save Gas and Money Through Fuel-Efficient Paths, Smarter Driving Habits
LAS VEGAS, Nev./January 7, 2009/Business Wire — Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN), the global leader in satellite navigation, today introduced ecoRoute, a free software update that helps drivers conserve money and fuel, easing growing pressures on personal budgets and the environment. ecoRoute, which suggests fuel-efficient navigation, was announced in conjunction with the 2009 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, and will be on display at the Garmin booth (South Hall 4, #35832).
“Many of the biggest challenges currently facing people around the world involve the economy and the environment,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin’s vice president of worldwide sales. “Using ecoRoute on your Garmin nüvi® helps you be a smarter driver at a time when everyone is trying to make their paychecks and their gas tanks go the extra mile. As the global leader in satellite navigation, we embrace the opportunity to be the leader in fuel-efficient, eco-friendly navigation.”
Garmin just announced a software update for nuvi's as part of the releases at the Consumers Electronics Show in Los Vegas. At this time the only info available is a press release http://garmin.blogs.com/pr/2009/01/ecoroute-from-g.html?activeBranchId=newsroo. The web pag www.garmin.com/ecoroute the press release referrs to is not responing at this time. |
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Dewi
617 Posts |
Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 18:18:56
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The link is live now, but there's no info on which nuvis will be able to be updated yet.
I wonder how often the "ecoRoute" option will actually be different from the "Faster" option. Logic would say that getting one from A to B quickest and as close to highway speeds would be the most fuel efficient option anyway. Interesting marketing spin though.
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Dropout
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 18:58:26
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| Highway speeds are not always the most efficient. Something closer to 50MPH is. Also, an ecoRoute is likely a combination of the two. I have found that sometimes the time difference between the fastest and shortest is only 1 or 2 minutes but the distance difference is as much as 60km, and this is on a 90 minute trip. |
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Dewi
617 Posts |
Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 21:29:10
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| Um, 50MPH (80 km/h) is a highway speed (e.g. Hwy-7, Hwy-41, Hwy-35, Hwy-37...). I'm not sure what your point of "correction" is. |
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Dropout
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 21:57:13
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I wasn't meaning to correct anything, just suggesting that when talking about highway mileage the assumption is likely an interstate in the US or a 400 series highway in Ontario.
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jotne
Norway
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Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 22:24:51
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Wonder if this take in account all the mountain in Norway.
Driving up and down uses a lot of fuel. |
Previously owned : GPS "eTrex Yellow" "GPSmap 76S" "GPSMap 60CS" "GPSMAP 60CSx" "Nüvi 660"
Unit I have now :"Nüvi 760 EU" "Nüvi 765" "Edge 305" "Colorado 300" |
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GadgetGuy2008
170 Posts |
Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 22:28:16
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Smoke and mirrors.
My Garmin can't even properly calculate the fastest route. How am I supposed to believe that it will actually calculate the most fuel efficient route?? |
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SergZak
USA
1761 Posts |
Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 22:38:55
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| Agreed. Add some stop and go SoCal traffic into the route recipe and see how ecoLogical your route will be. But hey, at least it's supposed to be FREE! |
nüvi 3490LMT, nüvi 3790LMT, nüvi 765T, nüvi 855, nüvi 760, nüvi 750 |
Edited by - SergZak on 07 janv. 2009 22:40:53 |
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danham
USA
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Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 22:41:41
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quote:
Originally posted by jotne
Wonder if this take in account all the mountain in Norway.
Driving up and down uses a lot of fuel.
Nah, just "up."
Kidding aside, this does sound like marketing hype.
-dan |
- Nüvi forum moderator -
Nüvi 760 in a '10 Jetta TDI Diesel SportWagen & zumo 660 on a BMW F800 ST
Guide to working with pre-programmed routes: >> details <<
Language Guide / US Topo / 350 & 680 / MacBook & Intel iMac with OS X & Win XP / BaseCamp / Cape Cod, MA
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gatorguy
USA
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Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 23:38:49
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I'm pretty interested to see how it's actually going to work.
"Through ecoRoute’s Fuel Report, Mileage Report and fuel-saving tips, drivers can focus on their fuel conservation even when they’re not behind the wheel. Fuel Report tracks fuel usage over time, and Mileage Report monitors mileage and fuel usage on a per-trip basis. Drivers can customize their nüvi to fit their vehicle by accessing the “vehicle profile” under ecoRoute in the tools menu."
That would seem to imply that per trip mileage logging (ala' Navigon?) might be able to benefit those business owners and salesmen among us. |
Garmin 1695 / 760 / 255 / Navigon for Android / Navigon 8100T / Garmin Dakota 10 / Geomate |
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grandknight
USA
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Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 23:43:53
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| Anyone have an insight as to when Garmin is going to make this available for download, from I assume MyGarmin? |
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NanaimoRick
Canada
7393 Posts |
Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 23:52:28
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| Probably any insight would be speculation at this point as it was just announced today. |
Rick James - Nuvi Forum Moderator
Nuvi 350 - Nuvi 760 - Nuvi 1695LM - Nuvi 3790LMT (with ecoRoutes HD) - Nuvi 2460LMT - Nuvi 3597LMTHD (with ecoRoutes HD) also TomTom 540S for side by side comparison >> Here <<
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SergZak
USA
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vincentmckenzie
United Kingdom
23 Posts |
Posted - 08 janv. 2009 : 18:53:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Dropout
Highway speeds are not always the most efficient. Something closer to 50MPH is.
This is a common misconception. The often quoted figure of 50MPH being the "most efficient" originates from a study in 1973. This figure is only true for the make/model of vehicle they used for this test, when travelling at a constant speed on a rolling road simulating a flat surface. The best speed for fuel economy for your vehicle will depend on its particular make and model, and your own driving style. Aggressive drivers use way more fuel. Age of vehicle, road and weather conditions, etc, also play a part.
Economy is poor at low speeds due to the need to use lower gear ratios. Friction is the dominating factor at low speeds. So we travel at higher speeds...
Assuming you're in the highest (usually most economical) gear, most energy is lost at higher speeds (above 30mph or so) overcoming air resistance. This increases roughly with the cube of the speed. Thus, in terms of air resistance alone, driving at 65 requires around 3x the fuel compared to driving at 45mph.
The average driver can save 20% of their fuel just by adopting more gentle driving practices. Slow acceleration, light breaking, etc. Thus, unless you change your average speed by around 20MPH, you're better off just trying to be a better driver.
Modern cars perform better at higher speeds than cars from 40 years ago. The most recent large study of this kind was done in 1997. This study showed that some cars performed better at 65 than at 45 mph. All cars showed decreasing fuel economy beyond 65 mph. In general, these days, 55MPH is a good rule of thumb if you're in a 10 year old car. 60MPH if you're in a newer car that boasts about being economical and is more aerodynamic.
I imagine the ecoRoute software will try to use roads that have fewer stops/starts by avoiding junctions, tolls booths, etc, fewer twists and turns, fewer hills, as all of these mess up your fuel economy. |
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slick_gps
USA
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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 : 20:32:54
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| I've compared Magellan 4350's routing for fastest, shortest, and economical calculations. The economical almost always was the same as fastest. |
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synomenon
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Posted - 09 janv. 2009 : 06:05:38
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The shortest distance / fastest time options don't really seem to make a difference to me. Does the Nuvi 765t learn and improve over time?
Regarding the most efficient speed, with my 2009 5-door Yaris hatchback I get the best fuel economy when going around 55mph. |
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