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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 23 oct. 2008 :  21:52:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Edited by gpspassion 20090501
TOPIC - Visiontac VGPS-900
Voice Tagging - MicroSD Slot - MTK Chipset - Compatible with BT747 Software


On the Christmas Market in Strasbourg, France

Available at Semsons : >> LINK <<


Updated 05/2009 : using mderweed's BT747 (development version) to create a google map with clickable voice tags :



Main features:

  • 51ch. MTK chipset with enhanced positioning system technology (up to 1.5m accuracy with DGPS support)
  • MicroSD Slot with support up to 2GB capacity (about 25,000,000 waypoints, more than 2 years)
  • Voice-Tag function with built-in microphone allows adding live voice labels to any waypoint
  • Push-To-Log (POI anchor key) enables you highlighting a POI at any time
  • Unique SPY mode allows continuous standby logging of more than one month
  • Smart operating lights and prompt sounds
  • Auto ON/OFF function with car cable
  • Built-in high capacity battery for up to 24 hours of operation
  • User-defined speed alarm
  • Slim design with impact resistant polycarbonate and stainless steel
  • Time Album software supports Windows, Mac and Linux
  • Built-in Bluetooth supports SPP profile


GPS Specification:
  • Chipset: 51ch. MTK with WAAS/EGNOS/MSAS support
  • Sensitivity: -159dBm
  • TTFF (Hot/Warm/Cold): 1/38/42 sec.
  • Non DGPS Accuracy: 3m/CEP (50%); 5m/CEP (95%)
  • DGPS Accuracy (w/ EPS technology): 1.5m/CEP (30-50%); 2.5m/CEP (95%)
  • Altitude Limit: 18,000m (60.000 ft)
  • Velocity Limit: 515m (1,000 knots)
  • Protocol: NMEA V3.01
  • Baud Rate: 38,400
  • Update Frequency: 1Hz
  • Output Format: GGA, GSA, RMC, GSV
  • Bluetooth: V1.1/1.2/2.0 Compliant, class 2, SPP
  • Standard Log Mode: Date, Time, Latitude, Longitude, Altitude, Speed, Heading, and Voice
  • Professional Log Mode: Date, Time, Latitude, Longitude, Altitude, Speed, Heading, Fix Mode, PDOP, HDOP, VDOP and Voice
  • Recording Format: CSV
  • Voice Record Spec: WAV, 48 kbps
  • Storage: microSD with support up to 2GB capacity and FAT 16 file system
  • Supported Platform: Windows, Mac OS, Linux


I've found it only at semsons yet (link: http://www.semsons.com/vivgblgpsrem.html)
Placed an order, of course. Still waiting. Will post my first impressions as soon as I try it.

Edited by - iks on 23 oct. 2008 21:58:10

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gpspassion

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Posted - 23 oct. 2008 :  22:48:23  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for sharing. This looks like a very interesting device indeed. I suppose the voice tags will be geotagged and saved to microSD card. That could really nice to take notes as you go.

Keep us posted !

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Iona64

9 Posts

Posted - 26 oct. 2008 :  14:16:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have used the Delorme Blue Logger and over time had multiple problems with the Bluetooth connection and setting the logging parameters. I do not see an usb connection, which is unfortunate, so I assume it is strictly Bluetooth. I would be interested in seeing your comments about logging to the SD card as this would probably allow download via card reader. Would also be interested in what file format the tracks are logged. Right now there is a pretty hefty discount on the site you mentioned.
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 29 oct. 2008 :  23:26:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finally I've got it! Serial No is 00335, and driver CD was prepared by the manyfacturer just 10 days before I bought it :-)

Here are my very first notes:
- device is really thin & light (twice thinner than i-blue 747)
- it has built-in non-detachable battery.
- also it has built-in speaker which confirms every operation: pressing buttons, inserting memory card, establishing bluetooth connection. Those confirmations are very useful indeed.
- today I've checked only in Nav mode (I hadn't microSD at moment when logger was delivered to me). I can't confirm that reception is excellent, but it's also not bad.

Tomorrow I will continue: will try to check data logging and voice tagging

Comparision picture of Visiontac VGPS-900 and i-Blue 747:

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gpspassion

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Posted - 30 oct. 2008 :  01:16:49  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sounds good, I put your picture on the server, not sure why I couldn't link to it, maybe because of the ampersand.

I was concerned it might not be flat based on the promo picture above.

I take it you can turn off the sound?

I should be getting a test unit in a week or two so Ill be able to join in the fun ;-)

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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 30 oct. 2008 :  10:43:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sound alerts are permanent, user cannot switch them off. Spy mode is the only exception (user manual claims that all sounds and LEDs are muted and disabled).

User cannot control device/download tracks via USB. It's a pity.

User should put microSD to USB reader to download tracks from logger or upload configuration settings to that device.

And still there is no any information/firmware&software updates on official site.
Hope it will appear there in the near future.

Still can't say anything about tracks. My office all-in-one card reader reads everything exept microSD :-) So, I will check in the evening at home.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 30 oct. 2008 :  12:21:26  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah, but can the volume of the sound (commands and alerts) be adjusted all the same ? A loud beep would be annoying if you're setting the device (what can you set on board actually ?) or recording a waypoint and you get loud beeps !

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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 30 oct. 2008 :  16:01:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually beeps are not so loud and absolutely not annoying.
I cannot increase or decrease volume of those beeps.
There's special (and very pretty for java) utility TimeAlbum to manage device and it's tracks.

User can setup not so much:
- tracking mode: standard/professional
- overspeed alert Yes/No (and speed value 30..300kmh if yes)
- spy mode timer interval (in minutes, 1-100)
Setup data is generated by TimeAlbum in GONFIG.txt file which user should place in root folder of microSD card.

Log is stored in microSD card in CSV-format.
Here are examples of logs both in standard and professional mode:

standard mode:

INDEX,TAG,DATE,TIME,LATITUDE N/S,LONGITUDE E/W,HEIGHT,SPEED,HEADING,VOX
1,V,081030,075023,53.924558N,027.597928E,216,0,122,VOX00003
2,T,081030,075024,53.924553N,027.598005E,215,0,122,
3,T,081030,075025,53.924501N,027.597995E,212,0,122,
4,T,081030,075026,53.924523N,027.598005E,219,0,122,
5,T,081030,075029,53.924605N,027.597973E,216,0,122,

professional mode:

INDEX,TAG,DATE,TIME,LATITUDE N/S,LONGITUDE E/W,HEIGHT,SPEED,HEADING,FIX MODE,VALID,PDOP,HDOP,VDOP,VOX
1,T,081030,114432,53.926073N,027.598123E,217,0,0,3D,SPS,3.63,3.51,0.93,
2,T,081030,114433,53.925871N,027.597800E,228,0,0,3D,SPS,1.47,1.20,0.84,
3,T,081030,114434,53.925874N,027.597800E,232,0,0,3D,SPS,1.47,1.20,0.84,
4,T,081030,114435,53.925834N,027.597744E,234,0,0,3D,SPS,1.57,1.28,0.90,
5,T,081030,114438,53.925773N,027.597789E,230,0,135,3D,SPS,1.47,1.21,0.84,
6,T,081030,114439,53.925770N,027.597798E,230,0,135,3D,SPS,1.27,0.97,0.81,

Unfortunately, now GPSBabel cannot understand some tags (IMHO: tag,date,time, some zeros in textfile etc).
But I promise to tell them soon about that issue :-)

And here's link to user manual: http://205.134.232.209/Semsons/VGPS-900.pdf
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4river

Japan
62 Posts

Posted - 03 nov. 2008 :  07:03:51  Show Profile  Visit 4river's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I bought it from "buy GPS now".
The Log data is a fixed length, and the NULL(0x00) character has been added to the end of short data.
If NULL is deleted, the data size should be able to be reduced by about 20%.

I supported Columbus V-900 with NMEA2KMZ.
http://homepage2.nifty.com/k8/gps/#003
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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 03 nov. 2008 :  21:28:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

I'll update BT747 (http://www.bt747.org) to understand the 'V' tag type and the 'VOX' field. Latitude and longitude fields are also different ... .
I'ld also be interested in getting a raw log - did you try downloading anything using BT747 over USB? You say it is not possible, but could be tried.
I'ld also need information regarding the format (activation of VOX) to know if anything is in the format string. A communication log from BT747 should do.

Edited by - mdeweerd on 16 sept. 2009 13:33:36
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 03 nov. 2008 :  21:54:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mdeweerd, nice to see ya here!

Unfortunately, it seems to me, USB port is intended only for charging.
To get any data user has to use card reader.

And - the greatest trouble is that there's no RAW, device stores data in own pseudo-CSV format.
That format has fixed fields length.
All fields are padded to their fixed size by zero-chars (exept "valid" field - it's padded with space)
VOX - in this filed the name of wav.file is stored (9 chars, without extension). This file is saved when user press a button for voice tagging current place.

About that "csv" format...

Every record has 15 comma-separated fixed length fields padded by zeros:

Field name    - length   - notes
-----------------------------------
INDEX         - 6 chars  - record number, no leading zeros and spaces
TAG           - 1 char   - T-trackpoing, C-waypoint, V-voicetagged point
DATE          - 6 chars  - YYMMDD
TIME          - 6 chars  - HHMMSS
LATITUDE N/S  - 10 chars - DD.DDDDDDN (last char: N or S)
LONGITUDE E/W - 11 chars - DDD.DDDDDDE (E or W; degree is leftpadded to DDD by zero)
HEIGHT        - 5 chars  - in meters
SPEED         - 4 chars  - in km/h, no decimals :-(
HEADING       - 3 chars  - degrees
FIX MODE      - 2 chars  - 3D (I've never seen smth else)
VALID         - 4 chars  - SPS or DGPS (SPS is padded with space)
PDOP          - 5 chars  - XX.XX (no leading zeros if above 1)
HDOP          - 5 chars  - XX.XX (no leading zeros if above 1)
VDOP          - 5 chars  - XX.XX (no leading zeros if above 1)
VOX           - 9 chars  - VOX00001 etc. - filename when TAG=V
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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 03 nov. 2008 :  22:11:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try the bluetooth connection to get something out of it.

Also if you could send me the .csv file.

Update : The development version (1.60.15) at http://www.bt747.org has a first implementation of CSV recognition. KML and HTML output will have some nice icons too. I'll add more support later - e.g., the fix mode is not recognized yet. The date, time and tag formats were different too.

Just point to the CSV file as the input and convert to whatever output you like.

Edited by - mdeweerd on 16 sept. 2009 13:34:00
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Jcord

2 Posts

Posted - 04 nov. 2008 :  03:51:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I also ordered this gps unit. Seems to nice little unit. Very happy!
I'm able to connect to a gps via bluetooth from my laptop. Getting those weird looking sentences out with a visualgps. mdeweerd is that what you're after?

regards Jcord
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 04 nov. 2008 :  16:46:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mdeweerd, I couldn't find any dev version build, could you please make debug release? ;-)

I tried to connect via BT on my PDA
It shows some data in lat/lon/hght/time/geoid/calc and
Model:0000 (iBlue 737/Qstarz 810)
Firmware:M-core_2.02 (M-91)

When I press "Get log", it shows 0% and waits until I press Cancel button :)
On Ctrl tab it shows FixL 1000 and SBAS WAAS
On FMT tab it shows 1040384 records extimated (not correst, it has 25mln) and no boxes checked
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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 04 nov. 2008 :  19:35:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The dev version build can be installed through webstart: http://www.bt747.org/webinstall .

It has been added to the debug_releases page too now.

Your feedback seems to confirm that there is no integrated memory indeed.

There may be a method to configure through bluetooth since it does reply to requests (it returns model information and foirmware information).

Could you activate the 'Debug conn.' on PDA and send me the raw debug file - or for starters, just activate debug and send me the debug information logged in a file or in a memo (instructions for debugging are in a pdf in the download section on the sourceforge site).

Edited by - mdeweerd on 08 oct. 2009 00:16:31
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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 04 nov. 2008 :  20:58:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'BT747_1.60.16_en_full.zip' has the implementation for the CSV, KML, GPX and HTML output. Hopefully the generated links for the WAV files work ;-).
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 04 nov. 2008 :  22:28:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've sent you gpsRawDebug via email.
I also tried 1.60.16 (still in dev version, there's no .zip yet on the web!)
It converts my logs to gpx. I woult ask you to make some difference to points saved as waypoints and as voicetags - now they are the same. And I didn't found any links to sound (.wav) files in the resulting gpx...
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gpspassion

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Posted - 04 nov. 2008 :  22:34:52  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
About the .wavs, how do they get transferred by the standard software, do they have a label with timestamp/geotag somehow ?

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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 04 nov. 2008 :  23:01:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi iks

There was indeed a problem with 1.60.16 - my request to make it public was obviously not taken into account, but now it is on the web.
The GPX format was not up-to-date regarding the use of a centralised function - I fixed that (1.60.18).

The difference between the waypoint is in the description of the waypoint - there are not many other methods.

Once you are happy, I can rebuild the Mobile Phone version and the PDA version. My mobile phone accepts mini-SD and my PDA classic SD (I have an adapter for that) and conversion of the CSV files would be possible on these platforms too.

Edited by - mdeweerd on 04 nov. 2008 23:09:57
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 05 nov. 2008 :  10:25:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gpspassion

About the .wavs, how do they get transferred by the standard software, do they have a label with timestamp/geotag somehow ?


neither.
standard sowtware does not transfer any data!
Everything that I have - is a set of files on my mircoSD, like that:
08103000.csv
08103003.csv
08103100.csv
08103101.csv
08110100.csv
08110101.csv
08110200.csv
08110201.csv
08103003.kml
CONFIG.txt
vox00001.wav
vox00002.wav
vox00003.wav
vox00004.wav
vox00005.wav
vox00006.wav

How will I guess that there's voice tag and where is it kept: if both TAG field in CSV file is equal to 'V' and VOX field is non-zero (looks like vox00001 or vox00006 etc = voice file name without extension). So, the other data (coordinates, hdop etc) is stored in that line in CSV.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 05 nov. 2008 :  13:24:40  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So you have to go back into the .csv file manually and see where and when the voicetag was recorded ? That's pretty awkward, I'm surprised their software doesn't handle that.

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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 05 nov. 2008 :  13:42:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I noticed in the documentation that the software can generate a Google Earth file from the CSV file. When shown in GE, one can click on the way point (a position marker with a 'V') which opens the information related to the way point. That information has a link and clicking it will have the user hear the audio.

In BT747, I've implemented something similar - I am waiting for the feedback whether this works or not. If the audio files are in the same directory as the tracklog, then clicking the link should open the audio too. There was a quirck in GPX which is now solved, and I implemented it for HTML (google maps) and KML too.

There are not many other methods to show when and where the audio was recorded, except for renaming the audio file and/or transforming it to another format.

Their software is written in Java and runs on several platforms. As they do not need to communicate with the device, there is not a lot of hassle setting up the serial link. The interface has big buttons and limited functionality.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 05 nov. 2008 :  13:51:29  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That makes sense, that sounds like a good idea to add pictures in the GMap output of BT747 (option to look for geotagged picture in the directory of the .nmea/.bin and add links on the map), but OT here, I'll post in the BT747 topic ;-)

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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 06 nov. 2008 :  14:53:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Couple of significant problems:

1. When I press and hold voice tag button, my voice is being recorded until I release that button.
But! Voice tag's coordinates are stored not where I press but where I release a button.
That's very inconvenient when I drive a car.

2. And the second trouble is: when I press and hold voice tag button and my voice is being recorded, no trackpoints are recorded! :-(
So, if I record 10-15 sec voice tag driving at 50km/h, 140-200 meters of my track are missed. It's a pity...

I hope, VGPS-900 developers read this forum and will change the firmware to fix those two problems soon :)
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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 06 nov. 2008 :  14:53:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it is better to contact them through their web site.

A work around for 1 is to do a manual edit of the CSV file and put the tag and the reference one record earlier.
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 06 nov. 2008 :  15:17:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some good news: Visiontac added VGPS-900 to their website.
Here is the link: http://www.visiontac.com/v900_specs.htm
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 11 nov. 2008 :  22:35:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iks

Couple of significant problems:

1. When I press and hold voice tag button, my voice is being recorded until I release that button.
But! Voice tag's coordinates are stored not where I press but where I release a button.
That's very inconvenient when I drive a car.

2. And the second trouble is: when I press and hold voice tag button and my voice is being recorded, no trackpoints are recorded! :-(
So, if I record 10-15 sec voice tag driving at 50km/h, 140-200 meters of my track are missed. It's a pity...

I hope, VGPS-900 developers read this forum and will change the firmware to fix those two problems soon :)


wrote them email last week, described a problem

today got an answer started with "that's not a issue, that's a feature!"
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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 11 nov. 2008 :  22:38:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As long as it is followed like your post with a ;-) , it is not an issue ;-).

Is BT747 ok for you regarding the CSV hanlding now?
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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 12 nov. 2008 :  00:20:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To put the post of '4river' into perspective, I highlight that the Visiontac VPGS-9000 seems to be the same as the Columbus V-900 (that has more references on the web!).
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 12 nov. 2008 :  22:20:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, it is the same! Thanks for the note.

Well, BT747 now does it's work excellent: allows me to convert V900's tracks to GPX
And I'm happy to use it since 1-0-25-2...
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gpspassion

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Posted - 24 nov. 2008 :  22:49:29  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
today got an answer started with "that's not a issue, that's a feature!"
Ouch, so they didn't show any interest in fixing them? #2 may make sense if the device is maxed out while recording, but #1 is really a no brainer.

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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 24 nov. 2008 :  23:51:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, one and two seem to be related.
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 27 nov. 2008 :  21:43:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are very close, but I think they have different nature. May be, there's second issue because device hasn't multitask OS inside :)
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ptr727

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 04 déc. 2008 :  20:38:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I just got my Columbus V-900.

I really like it so far, especially the fact that the BT will turn off if not connected, thus saving more power for longer battery life when I just want to record tracks.

Three things:

1. When I use the Time Album software, and I set the options to export every second, and I then export a KML file, and I open the KML in Google Earth, I can see the track fine, but when I zoom in parts of the track disapear. The KML contains the Columbus logo, a point set, and the CSV file. All the poitns are in the point set, for some reason the track jsut disapears when I start zooming in at certain locations. If however I set the option to export every 20 meters, then the track looks fine, but misses some details.

2. As noted in an earlier post GPSBabel does not support the V-900, any idea when it will be supported?

3. As noted in an earlier post, I think it is silly that the location associated with the voice recording is the location when the recording stops, it should be the location when the recording starts.

P.
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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 04 déc. 2008 :  21:05:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1. Do you get the same behaviour with BT747?
2. Why do you need GPSBabel supporting it?
3. I could add a countermeasure in BT747 and attach the voice recording to the previous GPS record.
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ptr727

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 05 déc. 2008 :  02:06:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi mdeweerd.

1. I just tried BT747 1.61.3 and the same behavior with lines disapearing.
I don't know if there is a special conversion config in BT747, not familiar with the tool, I just opened the CSV file as the input and selected convert to KMZ.

2. I don't NEED to use it, it is just convenient to use one tool to convert many formats.

3. Would be a nice option.

I also tried NMEAToKMZ 1.51 and that works fine.

If you are interested, here is a zip with the original CSV, and three KMZ and screenshot files; one from BT747, one from NMEAToKMZ, and one from Time Album:
http://www.insanegenius.com/download/columbus.v-900.zip

P.
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Jcord

2 Posts

Posted - 05 déc. 2008 :  21:25:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a new version (V1.5.1) out of timealbum http://www.visiontac.com/download.htm
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ptr727

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 06 déc. 2008 :  02:40:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found version 1.5.2 on the Columbus page, and that version seems to works fine:
http://www.cbgps.com/download.htm
http://www.cbgps.com/download/TimeAlbum_V1.5.2_ENG.rar
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mdeweerd

799 Posts

Posted - 06 déc. 2008 :  10:55:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just tried your 'zip' file and I understand why lines are disappearing.
The KMZ files where this happens have the altitude data of the waypoints and the track property is set to absolute. If that is changed to 'clamped to ground' the track will not disappear. The other method is to disable GE's 'Relief' mode so that the earth is at the mean sea level.
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st7677

India
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Posted - 06 déc. 2008 :  12:35:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was considering buying this GPS, my other choice being Qstarz BT-Q1300.

However I could not find any reviews over the Internet for Visiontac VGPS-900. It is nice to see that GPSPASSION is the only place where some information is being discussed about this GPS.

The VGPS900 looks very promising on paper but I would want to hear more about it's performance as the Company it comes from does not have much credentials yet.

GPSPASSION did mention that he will review this GPS in few weeks however I couldn;t find it anywhere. So if any of the owners can post a detailed review on real life performance (positioning accuracy and ability to lock in difficult environment) than it would be of great help. Any links on reviews on web will also be appreciated.
Features have already been discussed so it will be safe to skip it...

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iks

Belarus
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Posted - 16 déc. 2008 :  10:44:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
st7677,
today I've tested both devices - placed them to the dashboard while driving the car in the city.
Here are two pictures. Red line - visiontac vgps900, violet - iblue747. You may guess what is better :-)


As you can see, vgps900's track sometimes has very strange behavior: some side-jumps, shifts, etc...

I can definitely say: if you need more accuracy, use iblue747a/a+, if you need voice-tagging you should use vgps900.
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st7677

India
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Posted - 16 déc. 2008 :  14:44:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah, I have already ordered VGPS900! Anyway thanks for the response...
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iks

Belarus
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Posted - 16 déc. 2008 :  15:16:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, don't worry. The tests are not completed yet.

Previous test shows just that within 10 minutes iblue747 fixes and handles GPS signal better than VGPS900.

But then I tested today all my devices together (iblue747a, iblue747a+, vgps900) for 3 hours.
And I found that fortunately there are almost no difference in accuracy.
Archive containing those tracks is here: http://vv.at.tut.by/gpstests.rar (~500kB)
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st7677

India
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Posted - 16 déc. 2008 :  15:28:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, I am new to GPS world, but how do I view these GPX files?
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gpspassion

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Posted - 24 déc. 2008 :  22:07:57  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You can upload them to gpsvisualizer.com

Well I finally found some time to start testing the V900 and I must say it is quite unique with its beeps, lack of internal memory and configuration that takes place when the microSD card is inserted!

I recorded waypoints and voicetags, but can't say I'm able to do much with them so far as the list in timealbum can't be sorted apparently or searched for voice. Exporting to kmz shows where they are so you can back track from there. Might be my setup but I can't play the .wav files in Google Earth ?

Also seeing the gap in the track when the voice is recorded, probably ok if you're standing still and recording a voice memo, not so if you're driving of course.

Will do some performance testing versus the Qstarz Q1000x (747A+) I also have with me.

I loaded the .csv tack in the latest development version of BT747 but am only getting the track, should I be seeing waypoints and voice tags too?

BTW there is a 1.5.3 version of timealbum here now http://www.cbgps.com/download/TimeAlbum_V1.5.3_ENG.rar

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mdeweerd

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Posted - 25 déc. 2008 :  11:48:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I loaded the .csv tack in the latest development version of BT747 but am only getting the track, should I be seeing waypoints and voice tags too?


Yes, if the filter options allow it.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 25 déc. 2008 :  13:02:26  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok, looking at the filter page I'm not seeing anything specific for the v900? I'll try with another csv.

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mdeweerd

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Posted - 25 déc. 2008 :  13:04:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All the "user" settings must be active.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 26 déc. 2008 :  01:22:31  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Got it, works fine indeed, really a nice feature to mark POIs in the field, I never remember what I marked with the simple button of the 747 type loggers.

The spy mode is pretty handy too to keep track of where you've been. Not sure what kind of battery life you can expect with a position every 10 minutes. Too bad you can't record a voice note in that mode though.

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gpspassion

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Posted - 05 janv. 2009 :  01:29:18  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Really been enjoying the V900 as a "Vocal POI marker" thanks to BT747, one word of caution though, don't use the microSD to store other files, as the v900 will promptly corrupt the whole card when in use!

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gpspassion

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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  01:49:18  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mdeweerd

3. I could add a countermeasure in BT747 and attach the voice recording to the previous GPS record.
Sounds like a great idea, maybe you could make it an optional setting, as some may be used to anticipating the POI to release the button when passing it, I try to do that, although I could loose the habit if it's hard coded ;-)

A suggestion for BT747 would be an option to select several .csv files at the same time as the V900 starts a new one each time it is turned on. By having to select individual files it's sometimes hard to match the data with the voice.

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mdeweerd

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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  10:39:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll probably do something for the desktop version only and this will not be limited to csv files in that case.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 08 janv. 2009 :  18:54:22  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good to hear, will be happy to test any early versions ;-)

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iks

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Posted - 10 janv. 2009 :  17:05:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
me too :-)
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 16 janv. 2009 :  23:44:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Since BT747 can be used to 'tag' virtually any file based on the file's date, BT747 can provide similar functionality with virtually any logger.

The process (with the development version only for the moment):

- In the field: use your logger to log position data and your phone to log voice.
- Get the data from your logger into a BT747 readable format (MTK Logger .bin, NMEA, GPX, CSV) and set this file as the 'Raw log file';
- Load your voice files into 'Files to Tag' in BT747;
- Convert to HTML, KML, KMZ or CSV.
- For HTML, KML and KMZ make sure the output file is located in the same directory as your audio files.
Open the file and click on a waypoint. Then click on the link in the infowindow. You should hear the voice.
- In the CSV file, the filename will be logged in the appropriate position records.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 17 janv. 2009 :  17:24:38  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sounds good, but this doesn't seem to be directly related to the v900 and its handling by BT747 ? Still looking forward to a version that could concatenate the .csv files ;-)

@iks - are you seeing problems with your V900 where it stops logging for no apparent reason? It seems I've had that a few times now? Either that or I pressed the on/off button instead of the voice tagging button, but I don't think so.

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mdeweerd

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Posted - 17 janv. 2009 :  17:34:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is related ;-). Anybody looking for voice tagging would be interested. I am working on the 'concatenation' of any source file type - there is some work involved...
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 21 janv. 2009 :  02:00:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The command line interface (1.67.14) offers the first implementation of multiple GPS Data source files.
On Windows, this would go like:
quote:
BT747Cmd.BAT -UTC 2 --outtype CSV -d 1 "c:/bt747/test/test1.jpg" -template "%p%f%e" C:\BT747\log_dumps\BT747log_HWL.bin C:\BT747\log_dumps\gpspassion.nmea

This converts the GPS data to a CSV file called GPSDATA.CSV while tagging the test1.jpg file "in place" and using as GPS data what is in the 'BT747log_HWL.bin' file and 'gpspassion.nmea' file.
For the VGPS-900 one would provide the CSV source files.

Next on the list is adding this functionality to the Desktop GUI.

The listing of GPS data files and the files you want to tag is in no particular order. The above could be written as:
quote:
BT747Cmd.BAT -UTC 2 --outtype CSV -d 1 -template "%p%f%e" C:\BT747\log_dumps\BT747log_HWL.bin C:\BT747\log_dumps\gpspassion.nmea c:/bt747/test/test1.jpg


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gpspassion

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Posted - 21 janv. 2009 :  13:01:05  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, will give it a try and wait for the GUI version ;-)

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mdeweerd

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Posted - 24 janv. 2009 :  00:55:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BT747 1.67.16 has multiple log file conversion available in the GUI but please note that I still need to do some finishing (removing files from the list for example). However, I expect the conversion to work (apart from some possible bugs).

Edited by - mdeweerd on 24 janv. 2009 00:57:17
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gpspassion

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Posted - 24 janv. 2009 :  01:29:32  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Stellar job, again ! Thanks ;-)
I'd been pushing back on the analysis of my voice tags recorded over several days...updated to v1.67.16 but can't see how to select multiple files?

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mdeweerd

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Posted - 24 janv. 2009 :  11:54:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just drag and drop the files to the map or the files to tag. Possibly adding log files as 'files to tag' works too.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 24 janv. 2009 :  12:37:23  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Got it thanks, I was tyring to open them from the "Log Operations" tab and "Add files" in "Files to Tag" was showing the jpeg extension. Anyway it works great, here's the result of some driving I did last week :


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mdeweerd

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Posted - 24 janv. 2009 :  19:53:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
V1.67.17 has some fixes that most people will probably not have noticed, but drag & drop can be done 'almost anywhere' now and I've added the log descriptions to the 'Add Files' functionality.
Good to see that it worked for you - it surely does for other people too.
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TJ Baker

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 26 janv. 2009 :  03:21:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone with the Columbus V900 (or Visiontac) experienced issues when attempting to use mini-usb chargers from other devices? I've only recently acquired a Columbus V900 and have discovered that it's somewhat particular in its' acceptance of mini-usb chargers. Apparantly they are *NOT* all interchangeable.

I have a handful of mini-usb chargers, both home and automotive, and have found that the Colmbus only works with the chargers that came with, or were purchased as accesory to it (from GPSNow). Any others cause the unit to shut down and flash a white light from the normally red or green status light when unplugged from such 'other' mini-usb chargers.

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Murphy

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Posted - 26 janv. 2009 :  09:17:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can you use the GPS (does it capt satellites) when it is plugged via usb on computer ? (usb-mouse)
I don't have one (yet) but I've an other device that don't work when it is plugged via usb(for transfering files) BUT it works fine when plugged on the wall charger. I investigated and saw that the wall charger(that came with my device) plug was not wired as usb standard !
You could check that with a multimeter on your "chargers that came with".
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TJ Baker

USA
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Posted - 27 janv. 2009 :  07:22:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Columbus V900 mini-usb port is for charging the battery only, no data transport is available there. The unit should operate though when connected to a power source, be it a PC or other charger.

My issue is that I want to be able to charge the unit in the field where there is no power source other than what I'm carrying. I have a unit purchased fom Gomadic which uses four 'AA' batteries to charge or power my cellphone which is also mini-usb. This unit served me well on a six month, 2000+ mile hike in 2007. I'd like to use the same unit to charge the Columbus V900 but there is something different about the Columbus' miniusb requirements. I suspect that the Columbus requires a miniusb connector where pin #4 is NOT directly connected to pin #5 as many cables apparently are. I'm travelling now so I don't currently have access to what I'd need to definitively test the cables that work vs. the cables that don't, though I have determined there are a few differences among the 5 or 6 cables and chargers I have with me. Eventually I'll get back to this and post whatever I learn about it.




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gpspassion

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Posted - 27 janv. 2009 :  15:09:52  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Odd, haven't had any problems charging the Visiontac with any of my USB chargers be they "standard" (PC) or "pin modified" (GPS) and I just plugged it into my 3200mAh external battery pack and the red light has come on, I'll check to see if the light turns green.

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TJ Baker

USA
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Posted - 27 janv. 2009 :  21:41:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've noted the following....

Chargers and cables which have miniusb pin #4 directly coupled to pin#5 cause the following with the Columbus V900;

[1] If the device is operating it will immediately shut off.
[2] The red light comes on indicating a charge in progress
[3] When the charger or cable is disconnected the status light illuminates BOTH red and green lights simultaneously for a few seconds.

Chargers and cables having miniusb pin #4 coupled to pin #5 through a resistor (200k) AND those having pin #4 not connected to anything behave normally.

The charger supplied to me by BuyGPSNow has pin #4 connected to nothing.

Have a look here http://tjbaker.smugmug.com/gallery/7206917_2dmja#462944966_uUeWj-A-LB to see the above mentioned conditions [1], [2], and [3] in a short video clip.


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gpspassion

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Posted - 27 janv. 2009 :  22:10:52  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"#4 directly coupled to pin#5" seems to be the ""pin modified" (GPS)" then because it does indeed turn off the Visiontac and "standard" (PC) the "pin #4 connected to nothing".

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bigred1246

Canada
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Posted - 28 janv. 2009 :  20:41:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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bigred1246

Canada
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Posted - 28 janv. 2009 :  20:46:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got my new Columbus V900 the other day......love it. I have one problem. When I click the voice tag "play" in Google Earth, I hear nothing from my speakers. I have associated the .wav file with windows media player. Running a Toshiba laptop with Windows XP. Anyone have a solution?
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 28 janv. 2009 :  22:00:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try BT747 ;-)
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TJ Baker

USA
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Posted - 29 janv. 2009 :  03:31:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

bigred1246;

I have exactly the same result with voice tags that do not play in google earth and have tried all I can think of to no avail.

mdeweerd;

I also just ran a file through bt747 and it also did not play the voice tag in google earth. Here is what I copied from the properties of the voice tag in the kml file.



TIME: 23-JAN-09 17:47<br/>RCR: X0300<br />Voice:<a target='_new' href='VOX00002.wav'>Click here</a><br />LATITUDE: 37.388778 N<br />LONGITUDE: 94.694545 W<br />HEIGHT: 259.000 m<br />SPEED: 0.000 km/h<br />HEADING: 0.0


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mdeweerd

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Posted - 29 janv. 2009 :  11:47:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi TJ
If KML/KMZ file is in the same directory as the wav files the link should work. It did for me previously.

Kind regards

Mario
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gpspassion

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Posted - 29 janv. 2009 :  12:26:17  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I play them directly from the Google Maps output, works a charm, and much "lighter" to use than Google Earth.

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raaaaaa

USA
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Posted - 27 févr. 2009 :  15:08:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
did they ever update this device to be able to switch between MPH & kilometers ?
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gpspassion

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Posted - 27 févr. 2009 :  20:38:48  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Are you referring to the the software ? I wouldn't know as I only use the most excellent BT747 that even concatenates various log files of the v900 and links automatically to the voice tags!

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raaaaaa

USA
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Posted - 28 févr. 2009 :  01:09:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was under the impression that it only shows the speed in kilometers. after you load the way points in what ever you use when you click on one of the way points the info is in kilometers. I am in the US so I would like it to be in MPH.
I read some where that that was going to be an update and be switchable in the software
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 28 févr. 2009 :  11:37:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the desktop version of BT747 this option is in the 'Output Settings' tab where you can enable 'Imperial Units'. If that has to be labeled differently in American let me know.

This only influences a few output formats (CSV for example). Most formats have the units defined internally (e.g., NMEA is always in knots). The GUI itself does not take it into account yet (table and constraints/filters). I'll try to change that soon.
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bigred1246

Canada
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Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  00:52:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, can anyone tell me what to do when daylight savings rolls around in a couple of weeks. I use the V900 to georeference my digital photos. I am on Pacific time (-8 hrs) at the moment. Do I change the Time Zone settings to -7 hrs in the Time Album software for daylight savings?
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  09:52:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My technique is to keep the UTC reference constant on the camera. You can keep it at UTC for example.
The GPS time is always at UTC0 anyways.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  16:25:13  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, useful if you change time zones a lot.

Still enjoying the development version of BT747 with the V900, except that I seem to lose it each time I reboot, one suggestion if I may, could you add a link to play the vox file directly from the "repères" page ? It could come in handy when you have a lot of voice notes. Not sure a .csv export could handle a link to the file, but that would be great too as you could import the file in excel and add fields to write notes.

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scotsman

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Posted - 14 mars 2009 :  17:55:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this is a repost from another thread.....

Hello,
I am pretty new to data logging and after reading the reviews of various device thought I would get the visiontac 900. I have a Mac and have installed bt747 from the web install but for the life of me I cannot see how to convert the csv files from the v900 to a gpx (or any other format).

I know I must be doing something really dumb so am pleading for help! I tried following the instructions seen.... I set the rawlogfile to the csv file, set my output directory/file location then hit the convert to gpx button (even tried the convert to drop down).

I seem to get an error saying no output file was created (I know there is data in the csv because I can see that in excel). I have checked that the date range is OK but am stuck.

I'm sure it must be easy as others are doing this it seems...help!

Muir
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 14 mars 2009 :  18:06:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you did not change the filster settings then what you say should work.

I suggest that you drag and drop your files to BT747 - or that you add them on the 'files to tag' tab.
Then, once you initiated a conversion (can be done on the files to tag tab with "Tag from file", you'll see the date range of the log file in the top list. If not, there is surely another issue. In that case send me a sample of your CSV (e-mail in the 'about' of the application) and I'll have a look.
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scotsman

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Posted - 15 mars 2009 :  17:44:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks.... did some more looking. I did drag the files as suggested and could see the dates appearing as you indicated. The error message stopped appearing but no output appeared on my desktop. Interestingly when I selected my desktop as the place for the output file it ended up having a directory structure that had "desktop\desktop" Manually deleting one of these fixed the problem.

will test a little more with different csv files.

thanks for the suggestions.

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yekorzh

Australia
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Posted - 18 mars 2009 :  22:44:25  Show Profile  Visit yekorzh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I've just received my VGPS-900 unit and have some troubles with GPS fix. Basically it fixes for 2-3 seconds and then goes back into syncing mode for another 30sec-2 minutes. Have somebody experienced this before ? I tried it on pretty open space - no mountains, no tall buildings.

Apart from that everything seems fine - BT is working, it saves CSV files (with 2-3 seconds of data) on flash card, beeps happily :)

I contacted support, but they have not responded yet.


Yegor Korzh
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lbottan

Italy
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Posted - 01 avr. 2009 :  00:16:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi to everybody.
I'm getting quite crazy... please help me.

I've a Visiontac 900.
A Mac and a Canon 5dmrkII.

I'd like to use GPS for geotagging and import the path in lightroom.

I've seen a nice plugin http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/gps

I'm getting creazy because I can't understand how an I convert the tens of CSV files created by visiontac and import them in lightroom plugin.

I've tried BT747 but, I've to say, it not very easy! I can't understand how to convert.
And what I have to set?

I drag the files on software ... and then?

What is the .bin file bt747 asks for?

How can I convert... i can't obtain an output file...

Is there any other easier solutions?

Edited by - lbottan on 01 avr. 2009 00:17:54
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 01 avr. 2009 :  08:40:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In BT747, do not care about the bin file in your case - it is possible to enter many filetypes in that location and that includes CSV.

To convert: drag the files to BT747 as you indicated and then click one of the buttons 'GPX', 'KML', ... or the 'Convert to' button which will start the conversion to the format indicated in the pull down menu next to it.
The output files are written to the 'output directory' so that directory must exist.

You can also get an internal preview of the path with 'Convert To ... Table in GUI'.
The list of CSV files appears in 'Files to Tag'. You can also position the pictures on a map by dragging your pictures to the app and then do the conversion. The position of the pictures will be stored in the output file. To write the position back into the picture itself (currently only JPEG is supported), you need to select 'Save tagged files' on the 'Files to Tag' tab.
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maciekwolf

Australia
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Posted - 02 avr. 2009 :  21:30:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello everyone,
[ed] I would like to add my two aussie cents to the discussion. Basically i am having identical problems to Yegor couple posts up: unable to maintain sattelite fix. Otherwise a great little unit, love the micro sd card logging, not so impressed with the nearly invisible in daylight led status lights and i would love to get to know it better but the lack of fix makes it useless at the moment.
I have contacted the merchant from which i bought it and am waiting for ideas or an RMA number but in the mean-time i thought i'd ask around here: are there any other Australian owners of the vgps-900 on this forum, happy or otherwise? Or indeed does anyone else have this sattelite fix problem, maybe in another country?
I am sort of quietly suspecting that bad ephemeris data is causing this, if that is the case are there any general time tested ways of correcting this that you guys are familiar with? I know that taking out the battery is meant to help with flushing the ephemeris, unfortunately on this unit the battery is internal and i don't want to tinker with it because i may have to send it for RMA.
Any help greatly appreciated [edit see PM]

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gpspassion

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Posted - 02 avr. 2009 :  22:09:20  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forums.

I'm not sure why the Visiontac would have problems in Australia and not elsewhere, that's not the way GPS works, unless there is a unique bug in the firmware. As for ephemeris data it's only valid for 4 hours and a GPS receiver will generally update them every 30 minutes. Keep in mind that the Visiontac is a tiny device and therefore has a tiny antenna which makes it a challenge to maintain the required level of signal (28dB-Hz) to download the ephemeris data. Still it's up to the job because the other day I managed to get it to cold fix in a moving train leaving a station in a couple of minutes when my Garmin Oregon took 5+, both were placed against the window as they are coated.

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yekorzh

Australia
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Posted - 04 avr. 2009 :  01:28:56  Show Profile  Visit yekorzh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I sent my VGPS-900 back to Semsons for RMA couple weeks ago. Today got a note that my VGPS-900 unit works fine. What would stop it working in Australia? :(

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http://yk.mynetscene.com
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gpspassion

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Posted - 04 avr. 2009 :  01:35:36  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nothing I can think of, did you read my previous detailed explanations on GPS acquisition to see if the way you use might be causing any issues ?

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yekorzh

Australia
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Posted - 06 avr. 2009 :  23:54:44  Show Profile  Visit yekorzh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I tried it on the open space - no tall buildings, no mountains, nothing - it couldn't maintain a GPS fix for more than 2-3 seconds. My old SIRF-III receiver worked great at the same location.



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diggs30

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 11 avr. 2009 :  19:04:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone played with the "Spy mode?" I'm thinking that might be a setting I would use. It says continuous silent logging for up to a month - does anyone know the logging rate in this mode and/or other details?

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gpspassion

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Posted - 11 avr. 2009 :  19:11:01  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes I tried it, works well enough, wakes up, logs data for 10 seconds if memory serves and goes back to sleep, not sure what type of practical use it could have though. I use my v900 almost each day so I haven't been able to verify the battery life claim.

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carlwithaK

New Zealand
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Posted - 14 mai 2009 :  12:57:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi yekorzh,

I just posted in your other topic (http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=124130) that I am having a similar problem to you in New Zealand, with a unit that has previously worked in America. This might explain why Semsons think that your unit works fine, but doesn't really help solve the problem...
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zexl5

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Posted - 02 août 2009 :  00:01:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi! Newbie here. What a fab resource site this is. Am researching a lot of info on Visiontac/Columbus with my intention of purchaing a unit.

A comment : I noted elsewhere (Amazon.com) that two users reported their unit not working (getting a fix). Both are located in the southern hemisphere (South Africa and Peru). I noted here, other posters having the problem are also located in the southern hemisphere (Oz & NZ). What could it be? I am interested to find out as I intend to use it on my trip to NZ.

A question : I assume Visiontac will give me GPS elevation. Hence I can use it in a commercial aircraft (ie pressurised cabin) so that I can record my flight path. Reason is that some other GPS units have barometric elevation but those will not work in commercial airline cabin.

Thanks in advance.

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gpspassion

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Posted - 02 août 2009 :  00:59:45  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forums :
1. Correct, link for dedicated topic on this problem is in the message just above yours
2. Correct, you'll probably need to have it next to a window though as GPS signal is very dampened by the fuselage.

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carlwithaK

New Zealand
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Posted - 03 août 2009 :  12:06:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As noted in the other thread, I now have a unit that works in New Zealand. However I think it would be wise to check with Visiontac and/or whoever you purchase it from as I guess this could have a newer firmware version or something which not all stock may be.
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Nonosoley

1 Posts

Posted - 20 août 2009 :  08:20:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi !

I'm insteresting by this product but i live in a french Island near South Africa.
So, I've send a mail directly to the japan support (service@cbgps.com).
This is their reply :

"Thank you very much for your interest in V-900!
Sorry for the old version of firmware, some batch of the goods indeed have some problem to work in the south hemisphere.
We have updated the firmware since July. It can work now.
If any customers find the unit can’t work in the south hemisphere, just send back to us for updating, we pay all the shipping fee.
You can purchase the unit from us.
Retail price:$99
Thank you very much!

Service Dept./kyosho"

Actually, I think it's safer to order to them to be sure having the new firmware...

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gpspassion

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Posted - 26 août 2009 :  00:19:58  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Looks like they've got a handle on the problem now.

Mine seems to have another type of problem, the vocal memos are all garbled up all of a sudden. I did switch microSD cards (put a 1Gb instead of a 2Gb) but the first memo was ok and the track as well...will try switching back to the old card.

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khaytsus

USA
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Posted - 05 déc. 2009 :  17:19:05  Show Profile  Visit khaytsus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've just recently gotten the Columbus V900 and so far I like it, I haven't put it through many paces yet.. Just been letting it run in logging or spy mode checking out how it does.

So far I haven't figured out a way to modify the logging frequency except in Spy mode, is it possible? BT747 seems to allow it but it doesn't stick when I try it, it's always back to zero when I look again.. I might post in their forums specifically about that, but..

Also wanted to ask; anyone heard of a way to turn down or off the sounds? They are really loud, and I particularly don't like the bluetooth connected/disconnected sounds. Anyone looked into opening it and muffling or disconnecting the speaker?
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gpspassion

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Posted - 05 déc. 2009 :  17:24:34  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forums.

Settings get reset each time you turn it based on what's in the CONFIG.txt file. That's were you would set the frequency normally although I haven't looked into it as I like to have it set to 1/s.

Don't think the sounds can be turned off and yes, they are annoying !

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wyndwalker

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 11 déc. 2009 :  00:34:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello All
Want to says thanks to all who have put in so much effort with regards to this product.
I recently received my unit, here in the states.
Likes
-Seems to be well made and performs well
-I like the idea of voice tags.
Dislikes
-I wish they could have made the MicroSD readable via USB(BIG BOOO HISSS ON This)
-The Time Album software is very poor

Not sure if this is Like or dislike
As a bonus the back is shiny enough to be used as a signal mirror.

Thank goodness for this site and pointing me to the MTK Datalogger Program. However I'm having a bit of an issue with it(likely user problems)

Camera that I've tried logging with is Canon A480, Windows XP, BT747 V1.68.30
I copied the csv file generated by V900 over to hard drive, copied the photos over to same folder
Chose the csv file from BT747
chose the output directory
added photo files
clicked convert to KML file
file converted
opened in GE but can NOT see any of the photos.

I can see the photos in the map of BT747
I can see Lat\Lon info in the files to tag tab of BT747
But nothing in GE

Any thoughts\ideas\pointers on what might be going wrong?



I also like and use www.GPSED.com but can not seem to get my test track to behave nicely with that site either-no pictures again. Also wonder-Is there a way to have BT747 out-put to *.gpsed file(or do I even need to)

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gpspassion

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Posted - 12 déc. 2009 :  10:28:39  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Glad you found some help here. Not sure why BT747 is not working for you, but you should repost in the BT747 topic that the author monitors.

After about a year of use, I do have some complaints about the V900 :
- its build quality, the case is cracked on mine, never happened to me with another GPS
- may or may not be related but the audio quality is bad now, to the point where it's hard to decipher.

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mdeweerd

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Posted - 12 déc. 2009 :  16:10:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To see the picutres in GE, the KML file must be in the same location as the pictures and you should tick 'User' for the output format (as I remember it).
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wisniak

Israel
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Posted - 23 janv. 2010 :  09:09:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the spy mode based upon a clock (user defined wake up) or upon a motion sensor?
Thanks.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 23 janv. 2010 :  17:36:21  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That would be a "clock" ;-)

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khaytsus

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 07 août 2010 :  21:43:04  Show Profile  Visit khaytsus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've never tried to export a file with voice points in it before, and I'm having zero luck.. I have the csv file and the wav files in the same path, just exactly as they were downloaded from my V900. I import the csv, export to KMZ, no voice.. If I try "Add Photo & Voice" and select the vox000xxx.wav files, it says it found 0 files, and export again to KMZ, no voice.

The manual says to make sure the "voice point output function" is enabled, I see nothing in the program of this nature.

Anyone have any idea? I've been googling and found nothing.

continued : Duh, I figured it out by carefully reading the manual.. You point to the DIRECTORY, not the files themselves. It scans the directory. That works.

I wish it'd somehow bundle the files into the kmz for a self-contained package. :(
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 11 août 2010 :  11:31:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bundling the files in the KMZ is easy - open the KMZ as zip file and add them.
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Arturic

Mexico
16 Posts

Posted - 28 sept. 2010 :  19:26:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello, I'm looking to buy a Columbus V-900 from Semsons but...

Can you tell me if your V-900's gives wrong altitude readings? I know all readings can be a little off, but is the error TOO BIG?

I'm asking this because I read in page 3 of this topic in the post form ptr727 about track lines disappearing and and mdeweerd's response (may be the points are below the maps surface)
Also in the Amazon reviews of the Columbus V-900 a reviewer said the altitude reading is 100+ feet underground.

The units Semsons is selling now have the MTK2 chipset, but Do you know if this version comes with the southern hemisphere problem fixed? and also if it has altitude issues?

Cheers!
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 28 sept. 2010 :  19:38:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The altitude reading surely have the WGS84 as reference. The ellipsoids used as a reference are perfect ellipsoids while the actual sea level is not that perfect. Hence any ellipsoid is just an approximation of the sea level.

In my area the ground level is about 48 meters below the ellipsoid. That means that if the GPS reports 48 meters that I am not flying, but still on the ground. In your case the ground level is possibly below the reference, so when you are touching the ground, the reported level is negative.

My opensource program (BT747) has a function to adjust these height levels to the level that you expect (with reference to the Mean Sea Level). BT747 relies on a lookup table (1° grid in the desktop version) for that which was built on data from NASA.
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Arturic

Mexico
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Posted - 28 sept. 2010 :  23:16:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, thanks for that info, I really should learn more about the technical side and inner workings of the GPS.

So could we safely say the V-900 does not have a hardware or firmware problem with the altitude data it delivers? or in other words, Is it as accurate as any other equivalent device such as the Qstarz BT-Q1000X or the i-blue 747A+ ?

Cheers!
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 29 sept. 2010 :  00:33:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi
If you want a more detailed explication: http://mtp.jpl.nasa.gov/notes/altitude/altitude.html

You can check out the geoid vs. the WGS reference here: http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/wgs84/gravitymod/wgs84_180/intptW.html .

I do not have a VGPS-900 so I can not confirm that the device is precise or not. sqdf I partipated to win one but visiontac didn't keep their promise :-( .

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Arturic

Mexico
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Posted - 29 sept. 2010 :  03:44:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, that's some heavy stuff in the first link, but from the first part I get a lot better the idea of what you told me in your previous post.

I'm sad to hear they can't be trusted, maybe that's another reason to not buy the V-900 (are Visiontac the same guys as Colombus?)

We have another topic discussing V-900 vs. BT-Q1000XT, can you please give us your opinion there?
(even though I know where you stand based on your post in Howardforums, but so other peolple can see too) Thanks

Cheers!
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AlmostLost

India
32 Posts

Posted - 13 déc. 2010 :  16:39:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Can the V-900 log data AND stream NMEA over Bluetooth at the same time? Or is it an either/ or?

Thanks in advance, and
Regards
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gpspassion

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Posted - 13 déc. 2010 :  17:38:24  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, like all GPS dataloggers with bluetooth that I know of, you can log and stream NMEA to another device at the same time.

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AlmostLost

India
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Posted - 14 déc. 2010 :  00:44:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^^^
Thanks.
Doubt was because the V-900 stops datalogging when recording a voice memo. So maybe it could not handle two things at the same time.

My idea is to essentially keep it on all the time, working as a datalogger. Once in a while, when one needs maps/ navigation support, to use the smartphone. But the built in GPS of the smartphone sucks. In this way one has the best of both worlds.

So the next question is how seamless is the BT part. Does one have to do anything special to reestablish a lost bluetooth connection, or will just powering up (or restarting the mapping/ navigation application)do?

Sorry for all these questions, but Visiontac does not seem to have a downloadable manual.

Regards
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mdeweerd

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Posted - 14 déc. 2010 :  10:00:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi
The manual is on their download page: http://www.visiontac.com/download.htm .
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AlmostLost

India
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Posted - 14 déc. 2010 :  16:50:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^^^^
Thanks!

Seems to be a well thought out unit (except for WP recording on key release)

Regards
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Arturic

Mexico
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Posted - 14 déc. 2010 :  19:28:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@AlmostLost
If you are looking to buy this unit you may like better the "Columbus V-900" (available at Semsons too) since it has the MTK II instead of the MTK I.
I don't own either of this units nor I'm affiliated to Semsons in any way other than I'm a customer, but a while ago I was looking to buy this GPS, if you want to see my conclusions see my posts above.

Cheers!
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NCC

USA
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Posted - 27 août 2011 :  07:04:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi. My first post in your forum. I found it after spending hours reading and getting frustrated reading about GPS Data Loggers.

I've owned two of the VisionTac VGPS-900s. I lost the first one after putting in on the roof of my car and driving off (DOH).
The second one "blew up" after I left it connected to the car's 12VDC port continuously for several weeks.
I don't know if it was the continuous charge, or maybe exposure to high heat in the parked car that made the battery expand, forcing open the device's case.
It emitted a long beep at that point, but it continued to function for a few weeks before dying completely.
I emailed the dealer several times, included photos of the screwed up device ... never got any response. Not even an "I can't help you" ... NOTHING.

So, now I'm in need of a replacement. I really liked the VisionTac device. I liked it enough to replace the first unit with the same model.
Although, I wish the included software was a bit more advanced, it worked. I also wish the data was easier to use with MS Streets & Trips. That can be done, but certainly not with ease.

I see the above post which mentions the Columbs V-900, which is one unit I stumbled across this evening in my quest. I decided it was a rebranded sample of the VisionTac. But, I see above that this isn't the case??

What I need in a GPS data logger. The ability to run off of both rechargeable battery and 12VDC power port. Auto On/Off with vehicle power is desireable, but not an absolute MUST.
I need the ability to store massive amounts of data on a card ... like years (32GB would probably do it, at least 16GB??). My intention is to pretty much log my car's every move, for years. It could be a hard wired device, but not necessarily. If the device ships with either mapping software OR an easy way to port the data to MS Streets & Trips (and optionally, Google Earth), it would be perfect. OH, and it has to be able to tolerate high temperatures in a closed vehicle in Summer ... like 140F. I would like to stay under $200 USD.

Wow, LONG post. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks for reading.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 27 août 2011 :  08:07:53  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not sure it was the heat as I've forgotten mine on the dash a few times and it survived, but you're right, shouldn't have happened and they should have addressed it. I think the Columbus is indeed a "clone" but with an updated GPS chip, MTKII vs MTKI.

It's hard to beat the convenience of the microSD card, especially if you need to log a lot of data. I do my logging with my Garmin nuvi though now as it's even less work (logs when it's on). For your needs though a permanently wired system might be better. I'm sure there are "pro" systems but that might be expensive...so maybe you can give the Columbus/Vtac another go ;-)

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NCC

USA
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Posted - 28 août 2011 :  06:33:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks. I'm now inclined to get the Columbus unit. I've got a long drive coming up in a couple weeks. Maybe I'll have better luck ... third try is the charm.

I'm also considering TrackStick Pro and the Qstarz CR-Q1100P, but haven't done much research on them yet.
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Arturic

Mexico
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Posted - 29 août 2011 :  08:26:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi NCC, I only know of one device that can sync to the car engine, the i-Blue 747ProS (available previously at Semsons), anyway I guess the memory is not big enough for your requirements, may be you would have to download the data more often. There are other units that go to stand-by and wakeup automatically by means of a motion sensor.
Cheers!

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NCC

USA
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Posted - 03 sept. 2011 :  00:26:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just thought I'd post an update.

Today I ordered a QSTARZ Q1000XT. Nothing I looked at offered an exact match to my "ideal" logger. But, I think I'm going to be happy with the Q1000XT by just backing up my data a half dozen times a year (that should do it). $106.99 shipped.

I don't know if it can be semi-permanently attached via USB 12 Power Port. If not, I'll just have to add charging to my routine.
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iks

Belarus
80 Posts

Posted - 28 sept. 2012 :  16:18:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi there again!
I've lost my V900's datacable. And when using other similar cable device doesn't want to turn on/off automatically.
Does anyone know where's the difference between original and third-party mini-usb cables?
It seems to me, there (in original v900 cable) data wires may be connected because they are never used for data transfer.
Can anyone confirm that?
Thanx a lot!
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khaytsus

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 07 janv. 2013 :  16:46:18  Show Profile  Visit khaytsus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've had my Columbus V900 for about three years, and for the last year the battery life has been dropping, and a few months ago I found it was only running for 10-15 minutes by itself, so I had been running it plugged into a small portable charger while cycling etc to have its track logger. But I started looking around to replace the battery, and while I saw a few such questions on line, I didn't find anything.. I looked into cellphone batteries and found a few that might be close, but I hit the jackpot and found the exact right battery on Sparkfun.

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/339 - Polymer Lithium Ion Battery - 1000mAH - PRT-00339

Same exact battery, wired, has a connector on it but I don't think there's room, so I carefully clipped, soldered, secured the connections, arranged the wires, and my V900 is working great again!

I didn't take any pictures of the process, but if you know how to solder you shouldn't have any problems. Take out the tiny philips screws on the end, lift up the metal back cover, push the black top section away from the silver back on the button side (there are two small tabs here that the silver back slides into). Just look at it carefully and you'll see. There are some snaps on the sides too, but my battery had popped those open (!) so I didn't have to deal with those, but I suspect you just need to carefully pry at them with a soft tool like a guitar pick or such.

Once it's open, I desoldered the wires from the existing battery to keep as much length on them as possible, plus I didn't have to trim them up etc, prepare the new battery taking great care not to short the connections, use something sturdy like heat shrink tubing with some small amount of electrical tape (I find the tiny shrink tubing can move as it doesn't shrink much) and then carefully align things and close up after you make sure the button is in place. It falls out easily.

So the battery is in good shape.. I still have problems with my button sticking sometimes, not sure if it's wearing down or what.. I probably should have attempted to make it more secure while I had it open, but I left it for now.

This is from a post on my (useless) blog, but wanted to put it somewhere so Google will find it and wanted to post it here as well. Hope this helps someone.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 13 janv. 2013 :  00:50:55  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey, thanks for sharing, I'm sure it will help others. I haven't used mine for a while. It seems your battery just wore out because of regular use. No memory effect on Lithium but the charge cycles are still limited...

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