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Team GpsPasSion
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 Posted - 14 août 2008 : 17:03:30
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TOPIC - GARMIN NUVI 7x5
Road Signs - 3D Buildings - 10Hz Map Refresh - Traffic Information - MTK GPS Chipset
UPDATED 20091221 : v3.90 is now available, see this topic for details.
UPDATED 20090624 - v3.60 update available, for once this is a MUST DO update, see here for details.
UPDATED 20090324 - v3.40 update available, see details
UPDATED 20090218 - v3.30 update available, see details
UPDATED 20090120 - v3.00 update available, adds ecoRoute feature and MSN3, details in this topic
Posted 09/2008 : 1. Some initial comments after using the 765 at Navteq's Navivision event in Paris -> >> details << on page 5.
2. Video showing 3D Buildings and 4Hz map refresh rate : >> click for video on YouTube <<.
3. Here are some screenshots with 3D Buildings on/off and how you activate them, note the new CN NT 2009 Europe Maps too (currently 2008).
A few more screenshots :
1. "Slow map redraw" problem (early test unit at least)
  
2. Customizing the right data field with no programmed route :
3. Customizing the right data field with a route :
4. The "Globe" view :
5. The "Roadsigns" :
Unlike on Navigon's RV and TomTom's ALG can be called from the "pictogram view" with "Syst. surv. traject." :
Before the "Roadsigns" come up you get a precise preview of the upcoming turn with the arrows at the top :
6. 765 vs 760 - same connector, different finish, more "rubbery" on the 765 :
Entry in the Garmin Blog : >> LINK <<
Announcement now official -> businesswire
Pictures from Engadget : link
I don't know if it was posted here before but today I received some info on the new Nuvi 7x5 coming at the end of this year.
The EU version had City Navigator 2009 NT pre-loaded and it contains 3D views of lots of building in large cities in the EU. Just like TeleAtlas has but Navteq has WAY more buildings, over 3000 famous buildings.
It also has the Navigon-ish lane guide information
I wasn't allowed to scan the screenshots (it was a demo on paper) and I don't know if it was mentioned before but I just got back from a long holiday so I am no up to date :D |
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Edited by - NanaimoRick on 15 févr. 2012 16:05:02
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Boyd
USA
1649 Posts |
Posted - 14 août 2008 : 21:22:07
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Very interesting that they are making this part of the 700 series. I wonder how it handle screen refresh with the 3d buidlings, since Garmin has never been a leader in the frames per second category. I guess the 2x5 series is better, but it is only drawing squiggly lines and not 3d buildings!  |
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synomenon
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Posted - 14 août 2008 : 22:10:26
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| Maybe they'll be using that SiRF Prima chipset? Wasn't it supposed to be capable of high res. 3d stuff on Linux platforms? |
Edited by - synomenon on 14 août 2008 22:10:47 |
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popej
Poland
517 Posts |
Posted - 14 août 2008 : 22:15:52
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| One useless feature more :-( |
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SergZak
USA
1767 Posts |
Posted - 15 août 2008 : 01:11:26
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quote:
Originally posted by bluzark
The EU version had City Navigator 2009 NT pre-loaded and it contains 3D views of lots of building in large cities in the EU. Just like TeleAtlas has but Navteq has WAY more buildings, over 3000 famous buildings.
Thinking about this, what can be the reason for including a "feature" such as this? I'm already driving on the road...I see the road on the GPS. That's a given. Whoa, but now I can see the buildings in 3D on the GPS...I can already see them in 3D in reality. Why on earth would I need to see them in 3D on the GPS too?
What's next??? Can I now get out of the car, enter the building and navigate inside of the building (in reality, satellite strength permitting) and see the inside of the building in 3D on the GPS???
I'm with popej on this as being utterly useless, especially being that I use 2D mode exclusively. Or is Garmin going to do away with 2D mode also (just another one of the nuvi "enhancements) because they feel not enough people use it & will want to use this "new" 3D mode?
Let's instead see some true user-configurability instead of useless bells & whistles. |
nüvi 3490LMT, nüvi 3790LMT, nüvi 765T, nüvi 855, nüvi 760, nüvi 750 |
Edited by - SergZak on 15 août 2008 01:17:28 |
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ve7mdt
Canada
170 Posts |
Posted - 15 août 2008 : 07:11:48
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My friend vowed that he will never buy another stand alone GPS unless it has 3D "reality" (aka building etc) graphics, and he told me last year that next year (i.e. 2008) will have it and I have been waiting and so far nothing for our local city (Vancouver Canada) has anything yet. Why is it so important for my friend? Because he likes fancy stuff, it doesn't matter if it is useful or not, he just likes it because of novelty. It's a toy to him. Go argue with him if you want :-) , I don't have that kind of patience myself.
Some people think TTS is useless and some people think TTS is a must. It really depends on what you think is important. Some people think cup holder is essential for a car, and some people care more about the 1/4 mile performance.
And I have a friend (who is a car enthusiast) who thinks GPS nav is totally useless because you are mostly going to places you already know anyway. So go figure.
My point is: do not try to think for others. One man's meat is another man's poison. Garmin is not stupid. 3D building nav has been avail in Japan for a few years now, we are already behind. Visual matching is easier than looking at the 2D map and trying to match up where you need to turn, it's just another cue, like voice prompts.
Don't be narrow minded. |
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SergZak
USA
1767 Posts |
Posted - 15 août 2008 : 13:01:48
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quote:
Originally posted by ve7mdt
My point is: do not try to think for others. Don't be narrow minded.
Yes, instead I will let Garmin think for me and decide what is best for me...it is Garmin that is narrowing user's minds with all the dumbing-down and fluff of current units.
I'm not being narrow minded. I'm all for advancements in technology. After all, we would be nowhere without the advancements. My point is that with Garmin, in order to update to the newest, you always lose something in the process. And that something is almost always useful and functional. Instead of adding useful functionality and configurability back into nav devices, we will now be getting pretty 3D graphics and probably games. Just my opinion but nav devices are just getting dumber (nuvi "dumbed-down") and prettier (3D building graphics)...kinda like the girl across the street. 
I've been using GPS for a long time now (since my first Magellan GPS 310) and have seen the advancements made through the years. I'm starting to feel that the peak in functionality is in the past. What we are seeing now are just bells, whistles & fluff.
At least I still have my Garmin Quest and the Thomas Guide (www.thomasguide.com) is still being produced.  |
nüvi 3490LMT, nüvi 3790LMT, nüvi 765T, nüvi 855, nüvi 760, nüvi 750 |
Edited by - SergZak on 15 août 2008 15:43:01 |
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popej
Poland
517 Posts |
Posted - 15 août 2008 : 13:46:38
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Garmin is not stupid. The idea is to get with product to as many customers as possible. Product doesn't have to be good, it have to fulfill expectation of everage lamer.
My expectation are different :-)
Just an example from other PDA program:
Does it look cool? Do you see streets behind building? Do you find it usefull?
Do you notice that the crossroad on this picture has 3 levels? It's a perfect object for 3D presentation.
I don't use visual matching when driving a car. The only thing I'd like to get from GPS screen is current road diagram. And I need simplified drowing to catch most data quickly. This simplification isn't a new idea, it is called a map :-)
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SergZak
USA
1767 Posts |
Posted - 15 août 2008 : 13:59:04
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quote:
Originally posted by popej
Product doesn't have to be good, it have to fulfill expectation of everage lamer.
Haha...
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Does it look cool? Do you see streets behind building? Do you find it usefull?
Sure it looks cool. But the streets are not visible behind the buildings. That's one of the main reasons for using a nav device...to give you information you normally cannot see from your viewpoint/perspective. When navigating, I don't need to see the buildings nor their elevation, I need to see the streets and where I am in relation to where the streets are.quote:
Do you notice that the crossroad on this picture has 3 levels? It's a perfect object for 3D presentation.
Agreed. But this is the only usefulness that I can see from the image. 3D road detail is admittedly useful, but not the buildings blocking that road detail. |
nüvi 3490LMT, nüvi 3790LMT, nüvi 765T, nüvi 855, nüvi 760, nüvi 750 |
Edited by - SergZak on 15 août 2008 15:28:27 |
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NanaimoRick
Canada
7426 Posts |
Posted - 15 août 2008 : 15:44:26
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In our Nuvi 760/780 - TomTom 930 comparison ( http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=110142 ) we noticed the TomTom had a similar feature in large metro areas:
Found it useful in walking mode but since we were not driving while in New York City didn't have a chance to review it from behind the wheel. In TomTom's case you can see the streets behind the buildings but the buildings don't have the 3D that popej's example does above. |
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Boyd
USA
1649 Posts |
Posted - 15 août 2008 : 20:22:21
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Driving around downtown Philadelphia with my TomTom 920 I also noticed those "buildings". However I got the impression that they were just a texture of some sort, and not actual building outlines. If they were supposed to be actual buildings, then they didn't match what was really there.
The newest Nuvi's already has this feature though (only available in 2d mode at zoom scale of 500ft or closer). Somewhere around here I did a more detailed report on it, but the building outlines agree pretty well with the Google Maps satellite photos of downtown Philadelphia. But they aren't really "3d" , just some sort of an outline. Here's an example:
Should be available on the 2x5, 8x0 and 5000 series. My iPAQ 310 has 3d buildings, but very few. Seems completely useless to me, and only slows down rendering. |
Edited by - Boyd on 15 août 2008 20:23:55 |
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SergZak
USA
1767 Posts |
Posted - 15 août 2008 : 20:40:57
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| Adding to what Boyd posted, the building outlines are also displayed on the 7xx series using CN NA NT 2009. |
nüvi 3490LMT, nüvi 3790LMT, nüvi 765T, nüvi 855, nüvi 760, nüvi 750 |
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gpspassion
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gatorguy
USA
648 Posts |
Posted - 27 août 2008 : 23:20:09
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| @ Sergzak, yes the roads are visible behind the buildings. They are rendered w/transparency. |
Garmin 1695 / 760 / 255 / Navigon for Android / Navigon 8100T / Garmin Dakota 10 / Geomate |
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gpspassion
93427 Posts |
Posted - 27 août 2008 : 23:46:54
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A nice picture from engagdget's IFA article : http://tinyurl.com/6kd7xw
Not sure how useful these buildings are but the extra arrows at the top should help make the right turn like they do on the Navigon and TomTom x30 units.
And here are the "3D Views", Reality View for Navigon and ALG for TomTom
Also they mention a 10Hz update rate of the map, that sounds fast, we'll see, but the 4Hz of the 2x5 is already pretty comfortable. |
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stress
USA
18 Posts |
Posted - 28 août 2008 : 01:32:26
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Here is a link to Garmins website relating to the new 7x5 units.
http://garmin.blogs.com/my_weblog/2008/08/free-traffic-la.html
I feel there are alot of good arguments about it being usefull or just pretty. I just hope the designers that sit in the "think tanks" that come up with this stuff give us the users the ability to turn it off. I really miss the north arrow and attention tone. I found those to be simple and functional. Also with the attention tone you have the option to turn it off if it annoyed you, but if your driving with the top down it still got your attention for the next turn. Pilots use it when they have something to say, subways use it to tell you a door's about to hit you. |
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