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 [TOPIC] Garmin nuvifone: it's over (10/2010)
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NanaimoRick

Canada
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Posted - 16 déc. 2008 :  00:24:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like we may actually see the Nuviphone in the first half of 2009 as Garmin just received FCC approval for it today. See http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10123333-1.html?tag=nl.e433

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gpspassion

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Posted - 16 déc. 2008 :  02:22:40  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yep, looks like it's on its way now!

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gpspassion

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Posted - 02 janv. 2009 :  02:25:51  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Garmin is drumming up some interest for the nüvifone : http://www8.garmin.com/buzz/nuvifone/media_gallery.jsp

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Boyd

USA
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Posted - 05 janv. 2009 :  21:14:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have to wonder how authentic some of those screenshots are. For example, the image of the map screen is 1400 x 793 pixels. Look how smooth the fonts are in the speed, Menu and Arrival fields. Now compare that to the jaggies on the map. That has to be a simulated screen.

What is the native resolution of the NuviPhone screen? I recently got a Nuvi 205 on sale and was rather shocked at how poor the font display is on the 320x240 screen (although I'm used the the Nuvi 5000 with its 800x400 screen) . It can be downright hard to read some of the text on the 205. I hope the NuviPhone does a better job of this.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 06 janv. 2009 :  10:25:28  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm guessing 800x480 for the resolution, that's the new "sweet spot", as seen on HTC Touch HD for instance. That should make for a pretty sharp display on that small scren. Hope it's not the 400x240 of the Samsung i900, I doubt it.

I'm still not convinced by the concept, at least as far as using it as a primary phone, on the other hand millions seem to be using their iPhone like that. Not sure how they get through the day if they use 3G or WiFi or GPS for any meaningful amount of time. I think these devices our great as "mobile internet devices" but I like to have my phone on hand knowing it will get me through a day or two. It's an HTC Touch Dual so it has power to spare if need be.

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Boyd

USA
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Posted - 06 janv. 2009 :  17:19:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My iPhone is working out just fine for all my needs. But I don't talk on the phone a whole lot. I was initially concerned about battery power for a long day, but it's rarely a problem. And I'm used to recharging in the evenings, although sometimes I can make it through two days if I'm not using the internet much.

I think the NuviPhone is going to be a tough sell. Clearly nobody is going to exhange their iPhone for one, and the competition for smartphones is pretty brutal. But having one more choice for the consumer is probably a good thing.
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gpspassion

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Posted - 06 janv. 2009 :  17:26:41  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't talk much on the phone either, but want to make sure I can if I need to, and with heavy data use (3G or WiFi) or mp3 listening and the odd GPS lookup, I find my iPhone 3G lasts only a few hours :-( I got a jacket with a 1500mAh battery for it so that helps some but it can't charge it with WiFI/3G+MP3+GPS.

The nüvifone won't have the wonderful iPhone developer community, on the other hand it will have GPS assisted navigation, it might work better for me actually ;-)

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paulkbiba

USA
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Posted - 06 janv. 2009 :  18:11:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love my iPhone 3G, but sometimes I think that I should have gotten an iPod Touch and a separate phone. The phone part of the iPhone isn't that great and my Nokia gets much better reception and battery life. Unfortunately it doesn't have a GPS (E61i). I'll be seriously looking at the Garmin.

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gpspassion

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Posted - 06 janv. 2009 :  21:31:21  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd thought of the Touch, but the GSM module is a must for me, I use my iPhone as a 3G modem via USB, can be done via WiFi too. This is typically the type of "enhancement" that likely won't be possible on the nüvifone, as it's bound to be locked down tight, like the nüvis!

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Boyd

USA
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Posted - 06 janv. 2009 :  21:45:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I actually got an iPod touch before the iPhone, and it hooked me on the whole idea of having a real browser and e-mail client in my pocket. After awhile I got frustrated when I had to spend the day with no WiFi available so I caved in and got an iPhone. It is far from perfect, but I'm still happy.

I sold the Touch to a good friend, but she got busy at work and by the time she was ready to finally start using it she realized that an iPhone made more sense too. So I refunded her money, got a dock for the touch, and now it sits tethered to my stereo at home...
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Dewi

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Posted - 04 févr. 2009 :  15:01:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
News of the Garmin / Asus nuvifone announcement was posted on the Engadget website today...

Cayman Islands and Taipei, Taiwan/February 4, 2009/Business Wire — Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN) and ASUSTeK Computer Inc. (TAIEX: 2357) today announced a strategic alliance that will leverage the companies' navigation and mobile telephony expertise to design, manufacture and distribute co-branded location-centric mobile phones. Garmin and ASUS have already begun joint development on a diverse mobile phone product line, which will be known as the Garmin-Asus nüvifone™ series. The companies expect to bring to market several Garmin-Asus nüvifone models in 2009, and a new Garmin-Asus nüvifone model will be announced at the Mobile World Congress trade show in Barcelona, Spain, February 16-19, 2009.

"We believe that converged devices are an emerging opportunity," said Dr. Min Kao, chairman and CEO of Garmin Ltd. "This alliance is advantageous to both companies because it allows us to combine our resources and establish a strong foundation from which we will innovate and introduce the world to the benefits of LBS-centric mobile phones. We've been working with ASUS for over one year on the initial nüvifone that was announced in 2008 on the basis of an ODM relationship. Learning from this experience, we concluded that by leveraging and combining our respective industry-leading areas of expertise at a higher level, we will be able not only to significantly expand our product line, but also to shorten our product development time. We believe that through this strategic alliance we are uniquely positioned to deliver the world's best integrated and most compelling GPS-enabled mobile devices."

"This alliance allows ASUS and Garmin to seamlessly combine the strengths of both companies to offer market leading mobile phone solutions that are of the best design and highest quality. ASUS and Garmin both believe strongly in the continuous investment of R&D resources to unfailingly provide leading-edge innovations to people and businesses," said Jonney Shih, CEO of ASUSTeK Computer Inc. "Through this alliance, our companies will continue to develop innovations that simplify life. Our technologies should accommodate our customers, not the other way around. We believe all devices should perform and communicate seamlessly not just anytime and anyplace, but in real time, in real places, and we're confident the nüvifone series will meet this objective."

All Garmin-Asus nüvifone devices will continue the product vision of the original nüvifone and will be LBS-centric devices that seamlessly connect, communicate and navigate. The original Garmin nüvifone that was announced in 2008 will be re-branded as the Garmin-Asus nüvifone G60. The Garmin-Asus nüvifone G60 is expected to be delivered in the first half of 2009, and additional information about the Garmin-Asus nüvifone G60 will be released at the Mobile World Congress trade show.

LBS functionality is core to the Garmin-Asus nüvifone series, which will offer the same turn-by-turn, voice-prompted navigation features found on high-end Garmin portable navigation devices (PND). It has preloaded maps and millions of points of interest that allow drivers to quickly find a specific street address, establishment's name or search for a destination by category. In addition, the nüvifone includes quick access to online points of interest through internet enabled local search. The nüvifone harnesses the power of the worldwide web and information about local merchants and attractions is continually updated. The nüvifone also features Ciao!™, a social networking application that bridges the gap between multiple location based social networks and integrates them seamlessly into one device.

The Garmin-Asus alliance was disclosed during a press conference in Taiwan on February 4, 2009. Analysts or journalists unable to attend the Garmin-Asus announcement in Taiwan are invited to participate in a webcast or via phone on February 4, 2009, at 11:00 am EST (10:00 am CST). Webcast details are available at www.GarminAsus.com/pressroom.


http://www.garminasus.com/garminasus/cms/welcome

Edited by - Dewi on 04 févr. 2009 15:04:29
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bluzark

Belgium
95 Posts

Posted - 04 févr. 2009 :  15:16:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you beat me to it Dewi :D
i am sold.. i was waiting for the blackberry storm
but this will do juuuuust fine

garmin is the way.
nuvi 300 > nuvi 350 > nuvi 660 > nuvi 255WT
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gpspassion

93427 Posts

Posted - 04 févr. 2009 :  18:20:25  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting, not sure what Garmin have to gain with this partnership with Asus though, actually disclosing that Asus had developed the hardware for the nuvifone. It seems a partnership with carriers would have been more promising for the nuvifone. It's not like Garmin needed brand recognition or distribution channels, we shall see...

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riply

Netherlands
20 Posts

Posted - 05 févr. 2009 :  00:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In my opinion this is a complete waste of money etc. Garmin have spoiled their changes by delaying their phone with a year. I mean look at the market right now, apple will release the new iphone probably in a few months. HTC and Google are going to bring new phones out. The advantage of their brands, they are world wide know. In Europe is Garmin loosing market share to Navigon and TomTom. And many customers dont like the view of the navigation. Ausus is known for their motherboards and thats it. The phones were commercial flops. It is realy a small group who gonna buy these products.

A other problem is the os. Windows mobile of android. A new os is very hard to introduce and they need a lot of money for the marketing. In these times, i dont think they will have succes.
For example MIO, they have also a phone introduced a 702 etc but never heard of it anymore.

But from the other side. PNA are at the end off live, buf thats life. They have to continue otherwise is it about 2 to three years sluss ende also for TomTom what will be ealier if they continuing on this path.

Maby i'm wrong, but today you image is more importent then the stuff you make.
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Jim1348

USA
518 Posts

Posted - 05 févr. 2009 :  04:05:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree that it will be interesting. I think that it is just another example of a company looking for a share of the profit. That is not a bad thing. I have seen many products over the years where the market is flooded with many different brand. In time only a few will remain. We have already seen it with stand alone GPS devices. As popular as the iPods and iPhones are, they don't have door to door navigating. Google maps have a place, but many people want more. I see the next versions of iPods and iPhones to add door to door navigating, though. Obviously Apple has a very successful product, but it is not for everybody. I think the competition will be good and will bring prices down a bit. I like what I see with the iPod Touch and iPhones, but the monthly plans with data are pretty expensive and many people don't need them. They may be well served by just having a snartphone that works on a pre-paid plan that also has a GPS and wi-fi browser built in. I think one of the short comings of the Apple devices is closed source architecture. Granted, Apple has quite a following in computers, but I know that I like having choice over what I install in my devices.
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