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gandalf_barbones
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Sancho1234
Hungary
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 Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 12:02:56
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Originally posted by gandalf_barbones
This is my hungarian blog about Mexx interface.
Read it: http://www.oztivo.net/twiki/bin/view/Ipaq310/CustomInterface |
HTC Touch Pro2, HTC Kaiser TyTN II, TomTom Navigator 6, Nav N Go iGO 8.0, GIS Russa, HP iPAQ 316, HP iPAQ H3970, Garmin Nüvi 205, Garmin Oregon 400t, ASUS EeePC 901 XP, Leadtek BT GPS 9537, Motorola F3
blog.sancho.hu | igo.lap.hu | garmin.lap.hu | tmc.lap.hu
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Sancho1234
Hungary
254 Posts |
Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 12:07:50
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Originally posted by bobkane
bbO RC1 FIX
http://rapidshare.com/files/217877763/bbO-RC1-fix.rar
This procedure fixes some bugs found in version RC1
IT'S A FIX FOR RC1 VERSION ONLY!!
FIXED:
- bbO startup procedure
- languages
- bbo share procedure
Unpack the rar archive on SD card and run the file: bbO-RC1-upgrade.mscr
I copied it to http://www.oztivo.net/twiki/bin/view/Ipaq310/BbO |
HTC Touch Pro2, HTC Kaiser TyTN II, TomTom Navigator 6, Nav N Go iGO 8.0, GIS Russa, HP iPAQ 316, HP iPAQ H3970, Garmin Nüvi 205, Garmin Oregon 400t, ASUS EeePC 901 XP, Leadtek BT GPS 9537, Motorola F3
blog.sancho.hu | igo.lap.hu | garmin.lap.hu | tmc.lap.hu
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psycogeek
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Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 12:46:56
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Originally posted by jordano
except for two cases.Near Ljubljana and near Salzburg I received the following message "out of memory, error...." /can't remember the numbers/.The restart did not help,
if you get out of memory error, first thing to do is see where your memory is at ??? i mean is it a memory division issue, or a memory consumption issue.
The original software (even) uses up 45meg of the 100meg just getting going, and if your in a urban jungle with buildings, lots of height changes (terrain) and lots of streets, you could be close to maxing out the memory with JUST the nav program alone, let alone any other stuff that is running.
i would have tried to cut everything else off by task ending unnessisary items First before giving up. also the HP is using a bit of memory for flash Cache, having the 100megs of memory they alloted more memory to the file cache (think hard drive cache) to speed up file reading/writing because they could.
so basically they suck up every available usable ram they can to get the speed held up as best as possible.
any "additions" like Mio Pocket and adding files to the ram, would have to be done very sparringly, or (as you discovered) when you least expect it, you got nothing :-(.
you can usually turn down the memory usage many ways:
stop programs that are unnessisary, even the explorer running can take ~10M, that is why the original software had it off. Oasis itself takes a sizable chunk with its fuller color high res bmp items.
lower settings, most of the nav junk has a way to turn off or lower the quality settings on the terrain, or for example shut off landmarks and buildings.
you can even make Unused maps Unavailable, by shifting them out of the main map folder, to another folder, just so even the header of them is never accessed (even if they are not used where you are). some other softwares would allow for turning maps OFF, dont know why nav'go doesnt.
hack the registry, reducing the various caches sizes, which can cause various slowdowns, and you should have an idea of the max and mins on them. i think disk cache is using 10m about.
quickly clean any stuff that was thrown in ram out of the ram, adding in dlls and programs to the RAM itself will use up the ram for storage, and then it wont be available for programs.
make scripts that close one item, when running another, Then within the same script restart the other application when the other one exits. that is well within the capabilities of all the stuff.
altitude error of less than 50 is very common, and the splaination of why is overly complex, suffice it to say triangulating your height with sats miles up in the sky , and getting within 50 is a freaking miracle itself :-) |
Edited by - psycogeek on 07 avr. 2009 16:03:05 |
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gandalf_barbones
France
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Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 13:35:37
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BBO seams to be now close to a strong release.
i think more and more about leaving Miopocket and switch to BBO.
But i absolutly need to be able to run the original HP nav software. I've read along those many pages that this is an issue with BBO.
Are all the problem solved now? could someone idendify exactly the files that we have to copy?
When we are running the HP nav software, how can we close it and go back to BBO? Is there a "corner clic" as we have in miopocket (not perfect, because just "reduce" the application but not really lose it.. have to go into task manager after), or any other solution?
second point: I'll have ton install NoniGPSplot. Did anyone ever try this software with BBO? what is the installation procedure? |
HP Ipaq 314 + Miopocket 3 (R48) with NoniGPSplot registered FR |
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bobkane
Italy
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gandalf_barbones
France
77 Posts |
Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 14:21:52
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i just wrote a draft version of french language for BBO.... i mean draft version, because i didn't test it yet, as i don't want to remove miopocket before i'm sure that BBO can fit my needs. So maybe some texts are too long and have to be cut, or some accents letters can cause problems... if someone is interested, i can send the file french.mscr by email
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HP Ipaq 314 + Miopocket 3 (R48) with NoniGPSplot registered FR |
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bobkane
Italy
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Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 15:00:39
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About bbO and Nav.exe
When I started writing BBO, I immediately made the decision to abandon the original hp navigation software (for this reason I have called the soft "bye bye Oasis"!  )
The reasons for this choice were:
1) outdated maps (last hp italian map are very old!)
3) occasional updates from hp (in italy we say "ad ogni morte di Papa" -> something like "for every death of Pope"???? )
4) inability to buy and use iGO maps updated
5) no support from nav'n go
6) hp decision to stop distributing the 31x series (but this is something that I knew, and that allowed me to purchase my 314 at a price very very cheap!)
I suppose nav.exe could run into bbO enviroment, maybe loading a lot of .ddl, .exe etc, modifyng something inside the structure of nav.exe and so on.
The true is I have no more time to test it.
I'm working on bbO project using my "relax time" after a day spent on a PC during the businness hours.
If someone has found a solution for hp Oasis intregration in bbO, I will be very happy to integrate this solution as add-on to bbO.
Maybe the solution is somewhere into the 190 pages of this topic (when we will reach the 1000 page, we will receive a gift? ), mybe not.
So, If someone is using nav.exe. please contact me at
bobkane @ alma dot it
At the same address you can send the translations of BBO
Bob Kane a.k.a. bbO Kane 
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gandalf_barbones
France
77 Posts |
Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 15:41:31
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Originally posted by artlov
I'm afraid HP Nav requires running Oasis for work.
for sure no, I can lauch it easily from Miopocket.
What is the difference with BBO? |
HP Ipaq 314 + Miopocket 3 (R48) with NoniGPSplot registered FR |
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bobkane
Italy
59 Posts |
Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 16:05:16
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Originally posted by gandalf_barbones
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Originally posted by artlov
I'm afraid HP Nav requires running Oasis for work.
for sure no, I can lauch it easily from Miopocket.
What is the difference with BBO?
bbO does not use Oasis, does not run it at the startup (for this reason, after u tested it, u can totally delete the original hp OS directory or, as I did, u can format the TFAT before installing bbO)
On page 187 i found this message from ojejoe:
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Deamontus, if you are going to install bbO, then you can create links to whatever software you have.
To quit oasis you have to do some changes
in ResidentFlash\OS\Config\sys.txt file:
find line starting with:
;force exit button on the main/setting screen
mainexitbutton=0 change to 1, this way you will get
red cross at the bottom of the oasis setup screen.
To exit navigation software you have to do some changes in ResidentFlash\IPAQ\NAV\Data.zip
Follow the instructions by artlov Replied on: 04/01/2009 11:06:02
"It's simple:
1. Find data.zip in \Residentflash\iPAQ\Nav
2. Open it and edit file ui_hp_sagan\common\ui\start.ui
3. Find 'script sc_ExitToOasis'
4. Replace 'HP_BACK_TO_OASIS' with 'EXIT' in this script."
I've done the changes in my nav software. Good luck. don't be lazy, find some challenge in it for yourself.
Maybe this can help u
Let me know
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gandalf_barbones
France
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Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 22:04:37
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i just tested the "To exit navigation software you have to do some changes in ResidentFlash\IPAQ\NAV\Data.zip"
it works perfectly to exit the HP nav software and go back to Miopocket! Thx |
HP Ipaq 314 + Miopocket 3 (R48) with NoniGPSplot registered FR |
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barbudor
France
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Posted - 07 avr. 2009 : 23:10:56
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Daylight Saving Issues
Has anyone problems with daylight saving ?
Since we switch to daylight saving mode 1 week ago, my iPaq is still in winter-time and I can't adjust time!
1) Even when I am in WinCE (boot from CD to CElauncher) and then go to Control Panel -> Date/Time : if I change time and apply, it comes back to the original time. Also whatever the timezone I change here, time remains the same...
2) If I launch Oasis (NAV not in autolaunch), I can't change time neither in Oasis settings panel...
3) If I go to Nav localization settings, I can activate the sync-to-GPS box, then NAV gets the GMT from sat but always applies +1 whatever is the timezone I select above.
(Note that if I set auto-time-zone, NAV identify France and timezone as GMT+1 while we are now in GMT+2)
But even if I select Cairo - GMT+2, time still remains at GMT+1
Drive me crazy .....
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psycogeek
224 Posts |
Posted - 08 avr. 2009 : 06:05:30
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Originally posted by barbudor
Daylight Saving Issues
its weird for sure, right after a registry reset i can change the clock, but then for some reason i can not, it changes then go to apply and it doesnt change.
the system doesnt seem to have the most latest DST change made in the US, where its off for 2-3weeks, vrses where it used to be when these machines were made, i believe there is a update for it, that can be applied to the registry, as there was for xp.
i donno why, but i have the same problem at least some times. but having all my registry settings saved out in exports, and loaded on every bootup, it doent bother me, i will just nuke it, and then change it. it must be something locking it from changing, the way it feels. as for the 2-3weeks when its off from the New DST, i basically ingnore it, Human 0 - Computer 1. |
Edited by - psycogeek on 08 avr. 2009 06:08:43 |
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psycogeek
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Posted - 08 avr. 2009 : 07:50:40
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Psyco color scheme, for HP310 , original software ONLY, i donno if it will work for anything else.
BACKUP your original DATA.zip, if you check this out.
http://rapidshare.com/files/218758503/DATA.ZIP.html
this goes in the IPAQ NAV folder , not in the OS.
this has a whole load of various changes, nothing you havent seen except a completly psyco color scheme setup for night.
i supplied the whole frilling ZIP, because compressing this stuff back and forth , and trying to figure out where the heck something goes is a pain. so its easy to test if you have a backup of that ZIP, and easy to fix, by putting the original zip back in.
plus there is changes all over the place in the thing, from minor pictures to sounds, to minor script changes.
special to other modders, would be the night color schemes are now Marked all up with the information as to what road designations are (in the US, here where i am).
the cool thing about the road colorisations, is the special ability to "cruise" off track, or "take the backroads" because roads are designated for if they go through or not (sorta).
so freeways are salmon, because when crusing you cant usually cross them sideways , so they are redish for no-pass, tiny roads that wont get you anywhere when backroading, are darker and redish also, highways are yellowish, and big through roads and freeway exits are green , and cyan, residential stuff is cyan, smaller residential blue.
the Route itself is White now, so you can see the road color underneath, otherwise the route color can stop you from seeing the road type your on.
ahh heck you will figure it out quick enough if you go for a cruise with it, the roads are fully COLOR coded. if it (sorta) looks like you cant/shouldnt go that way, then you probably shouldnt :-)
The height data is double rainbowed, so color contours show up in crasy colorations, wherever you go, even at the smallest of height changes there whould be a countour of color change, unfortunatly, i dont know how to get that to show up during the night scheme :-(
if you wish you had a Black&White Garmin, or think that all computer interfaces should be Blue, then dont bother with even looking at this mod, because color is the theme :-) its Nightmare on Color Street 3 . |
Edited by - psycogeek on 08 avr. 2009 08:25:52 |
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Sancho1234
Hungary
254 Posts |
Posted - 08 avr. 2009 : 10:38:26
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Originally posted by psycogeek
Psyco color scheme
Please, share screenshots! :) |
HTC Touch Pro2, HTC Kaiser TyTN II, TomTom Navigator 6, Nav N Go iGO 8.0, GIS Russa, HP iPAQ 316, HP iPAQ H3970, Garmin Nüvi 205, Garmin Oregon 400t, ASUS EeePC 901 XP, Leadtek BT GPS 9537, Motorola F3
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