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 [TOPIC] Customizing the HP iPaq 310
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gandalf_barbones

France
88 Posts

Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  13:12:52  Show Profile  Visit gandalf_barbones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bitblaster

quote:
Originally posted by Sancho1234

You can upload your cooked ROM for your iPAQ?


No, unfortunately no (for the moment) for 2 reasons:
1) Hp did no released the upload procedure. I suppose that there is some proprietary tool to flash a rom.
2) We have not the drivers for the hardware devices of the 31x. Of course we could extract them (and the associated registry keys) from the device, but it would be a overwhelming task...

However the main point is the first, if we could find a way to flash the rom we could do whatever we want, in my opinion...




for the first point, i had an ipaq HX4700 before, and we have all the tools needed to flash the rom (upgrade from WM2003 to WM5 and 6.1). To flash the rom, we had to put the device into a specila USB mode by pressing a key combination. I noticed that if you reset while pressing the weel (i was trying to do a hard reset), you can put the Ipaq 31x in the same mode (waiting for USB flashing). Maybe the tools we used for flashing the HX4700 can work also for Ipaq 31x, don't you think? But the problem is that HP don't provide anything to flash again the device into it's original configuration: if you try to flash your device and miss something, you'll maybe have no way to return back.

HP Ipaq 314 + Miopocket 4 (R64) with NoniGPSplot registered FR
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bitblaster

Italy
118 Posts

Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  13:39:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gandalf_barbones
But the problem is that HP don't provide anything to flash again the device into it's original configuration: if you try to flash your device and miss something, you'll maybe have no way to return back.


That's exactly the point as we need first to be able to create a backup of the rom...
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bitblaster

Italy
118 Posts

Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  15:09:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe these 2 tools can help... Tonight i will test them...

http://www.resco.net/forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2804

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=243984
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bitblaster

Italy
118 Posts

Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  15:33:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i found this thread in which Zerg32 seemed to be able to dump the rom (at least), but it's very old...
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bobkane

Italy
59 Posts

Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  18:08:18  Show Profile  Visit bobkane's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'm back!
After two very busy weeks, I'm back and, asap, I will restart with the bbO developement.

But, before restarting....

Does anyone tested the 1.1 version?
Any suggestions, wishes?
How many bugs found?
New software tested?


I will complete the setup program and I will add also (if it will be possible/easy) a import/export applications routine (somenthing like firefox add components) so people can share or install tested "third party" applications.

Your reviews, comments etc. will be much appreciated.

BK




Edited by - bobkane on 04 mars 2009 18:25:06
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mire

France
43 Posts

Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  19:28:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
La brillante Bobkrane è tornato! Finalmente! non è troppo presto!

I do not have a bug outside Iesample that we solved with 310Tx. Missing files Reg.
Here's how to recover:

In MioPocket 2.0 Release 41 files :
MioAutoRun/Registry/CE5
In
byebyeOasis install SD
OS/System/Registry

I added to my BBO Odyssey Client for Windows Mobile CE but you need a keygen and a wifi card Spectec SDW821. Further use many DLLs in Windows and I changed the start of mortscript BBO.

It just remains you that changing the Bluetooth connection with a telephone and can be the possible addition of WiFi.

But it's great! Thanks Bobkrane :)

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HP Ipaq 314 -Nav +BBo (Excellent) +Igo 8.3 in resident. The best GPS !
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Phone : HP Ipaq 614C -
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Slice toaster : Moulinex with new Rom 1.2347 (UK, for Tesco value bred) :)

Edited by - mire on 04 mars 2009 19:34:22
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310tx

28 Posts

Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  21:28:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mire

La brillante Bobkrane è tornato! Finalmente! non è troppo presto!
It just remains you that changing the Bluetooth connection with a telephone and can be the possible addition of WiFi.

But it's great! Thanks Bobkrane :)



Hi. BBO is a really great (don't change anything,please). Thanks Bobkane and Mire.
Mire, BT is working fine with the phone and connected automaticly.
Only one issue is I can't program a short numbers like 411,611 etc.May be I'm doing smth wrong but it's not dialing-up.
MP2 has 3 (if I'm correct) kinds of drivers and programs (including REG.) for Wi-FI. They should work.


Edited by - 310tx on 05 mars 2009 05:36:41
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Sancho1234

Hungary
254 Posts

Posted - 04 mars 2009 :  22:54:45  Show Profile  Visit Sancho1234's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bobkane

i'm back!
After two very busy weeks, I'm back and, asap, I will restart with the bbO developement.

But, before restarting....

Does anyone tested the 1.1 version?
Any suggestions, wishes?
How many bugs found?
New software tested?


I will complete the setup program and I will add also (if it will be possible/easy) a import/export applications routine (somenthing like firefox add components) so people can share or install tested "third party" applications.

Your reviews, comments etc. will be much appreciated.

BK

I could not test bbO, because I do not want to reset my registry.

But I written the bbO here: http://www.oztivo.net/twiki/bin/view/Ipaq310/BbO You can change the TWiki, if you create an account to here.


HTC Touch Pro2, HTC Kaiser TyTN II, TomTom Navigator 6, Nav N Go iGO 8.0, GIS Russa, HP iPAQ 316, HP iPAQ H3970, Garmin Nüvi 205, Garmin Oregon 400t, ASUS EeePC 901 XP, Leadtek BT GPS 9537, Motorola F3

blog.sancho.hu | igo.lap.hu | garmin.lap.hu | tmc.lap.hu
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earnest

9 Posts

Posted - 05 mars 2009 :  10:22:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
at soon I have a problem whit my device. when is connected whit PC nothing happen only charge, I can't see it like external device and browse it.

HP Ipaq 316
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bitblaster

Italy
118 Posts

Posted - 05 mars 2009 :  12:28:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by earnest

at soon I have a problem whit my device. when is connected whit PC nothing happen only charge, I can't see it like external device and browse it.


Did you hacked your device (for example using the celauncher.exe in the SD card) or it's in it original state?
In the first case you could have changed the usb connection type from the default "Mass storage" to "Serial class" so you can revert it with the UsbCLientSwitch utility in the control panel of windows CE.

In the second case try to reset your device removing sd card (if any) and retry
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earnest

9 Posts

Posted - 05 mars 2009 :  12:58:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi bitblaster my usb connection type is "Serial class". I try to reset my device without sd card but noting is changed.
I was installed bbO, after that I uninstalled it without reset the registry to the original value and I keep \ResidentFlash\iPAQ\Programs, in that case file associations still work and PC connection still worked too. I didn't now where is the problem now!

HP Ipaq 316
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bitblaster

Italy
118 Posts

Posted - 05 mars 2009 :  13:52:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by earnest

Hi bitblaster my usb connection type is "Serial class". I try to reset my device without sd card but noting is changed.
I was installed bbO, after that I uninstalled it without reset the registry to the original value and I keep \ResidentFlash\iPAQ\Programs, in that case file associations still work and PC connection still worked too. I didn't now where is the problem now!


But for "PC connection" do you mean "Activesync connection" or "see the ipaq as an usb drive"? Because when you set te usb connection type to "serial class" it is only possible the activesync connection, so the problem could be activesync not working correctly

Edited by - bitblaster on 05 mars 2009 13:58:44
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earnest

9 Posts

Posted - 05 mars 2009 :  14:15:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn't used Activesync connection, simply see the ipaq as an usb drive.

p.s. maybe the usb connection type have to be "Mass storage"

p.s.2 I change usb connection, everything work fine. tnx for the Jocker


HP Ipaq 316

Edited by - earnest on 05 mars 2009 16:11:35
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psycogeek

232 Posts

Posted - 05 mars 2009 :  17:32:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bobkane

i'm back!
After two very busy weeks, I'm back and, asap, I will restart with the bbO developement.

Any suggestions, wishes?

cool.
myself I am not going to touch BBO with a ten foot pole, until it (at least) works with the original HP nav software, they indicated that it doesn't do that??

I use the oasis lame MP3 player the bluetooth connection AND the Nav all 3 running/working at the same time. the music is cut off by the nav voice directions, and the phone cuts off both. I play all 3 audios through the car stereo with a FM transmitter. and it works pretty good. the speaker on the HP sucks so bad, i MUST play it through my FM stereo to hear directions, so THEN i must play the music via the oasis player, or i wont get Both.

So until I (lets say) "borrow" or buy the new IGO8 version, and can be sure before i go through the heck of messing with it, that ALL the items work as the device does now. or what do i end up loosing??

until i can even figure out a reason in the world why i would want 3 different ROad Navigation softwares when there is only one road, and surely people arent running more than one road navigation software. i mean pick one :-)

so i HOPE that your BBO is wonderfull, and that you progress fluidly on everything you want to do on it. and it is wonderfull.
For me, it doesnt even seem to have Begun to exist yet.

I dont understand how you replace Oasis, Which is not so great , and BBO is great, with something that doesnt Replace Oasis :-) dont you miss all the features?

i am sooo confused. but then because of these limitations that i THINK exist, i have not tried it.

i know i should get the new IGO8 working, but really i dont have the first one even suitable, and i know nothing about the limitations and problems that using the new IGO could have. so i am sticking with the original NAV, but would love to replace the oasis, as long as i dont LOOSE things.

Also, just to toss out my opinion, on what is important to ME, i dont need Web junk on my portable, when it still cant get 300 feet from a wi-fi spot in some urban jungle anyways . I dont need a Word Processor, because i wasnt planning on writing a book, on a 4" device. i dont need to read PDFs which are usually some advertising junk , or a manuel i never read anyways :-)

but i DO need a Weird one, the PXL excell spreadsheet, which has my MPG (miles per gallon) charts for both cars, and the weight pack spreadsheet for my backpack hiking stuff . and nobody has got the PXL working right yet have they? i dont have Excell, so all my spreadheet work was done using the full PXL not the viewer.

I aint going to read a book, cause i got buku movies , a lot of music, car and off-road navigations, games that i can play for almost forever, all the fun stuff :-) leaving all the drudgery at home.
And if i did read a book, i dont understand why using a simple notepad with askii text copy pasted , taking little space and not requiring some viewer , for what is only text anyway?

to ME , the mio-pocket thing was mostly a disk filling load of junk on OUR device the HP31?, I aint playing games that are the size of postage stamps, and most of the best of it doesnt work right on the hp, leaving the stuff i dont care about, just filling space, wasting ram, and crashing the machine :-) but some are using it now? but what does it HAVE that works, that we already didnt have?

i have great Hopes for BBO,and its HP31? specific. i need to understand more about it, your work on it is Wonderfull,
but me i am LOST . I dont need a Manuel, but i would love to know how people are using it?
and i really did read all 175 freaking pages of this thread before i started participating :-)

Edited by - psycogeek on 05 mars 2009 19:19:30
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gandalf_barbones

France
88 Posts

Posted - 05 mars 2009 :  21:15:26  Show Profile  Visit gandalf_barbones's Homepage  Reply with Quote
wow, so long post... i'll try to do shorter
As i ever told, i recently bought an ipaq 314, but i choose to try Miopocket in stead of BBO... for the moment... but i can change in the future depending the evolution of the 2 solutions
What do i need?
1- be able to run easily the original HP software (nav....)
2- be able to use NoniGPSplot (easy install or pre-installed as in Miopocket)
3- have more various applications (especialy games + better media player), working well with the 800x480 screen, if possible pre-instaled
4- Be able to use/install any other Nav software . I won't need this immediatly, but maybe in the future if one day i want to replace the HP nav software with a newer/updated software.

For the moment, Miopocket seams to better match my needs... but if you can upgrade BBo in this way, i would enjoy a lot using it.

HP Ipaq 314 + Miopocket 4 (R64) with NoniGPSplot registered FR
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