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jwoegerbauer Posted - 19 janv. 2010 : 12:30:45
Hi all,

this thread I created in the hope

1) the contributors of MioPocket from time to time come along here to see what MioPocket-users are wishing and/or suggesting to get MioPocket the world's finest PNA/GPS unlocker.

2) MioPocket-users share here their experience (and how-to) in extending the possibilities MioPocket already offers



DON'T EXPECT THAT EVERY POST HERE WILL BE PERFECT FOR EVERYONE!



Links to other sites created and/or maintained by organizations/persons other than me are for information only. I accept no responsibility or liability for access to, or the accuracy of, the material on any site that is linked to from this thread's pages, and I do not necessarily endorse any views expressed within them. I have no control over the availability of the linked pages.


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jwoegerbauer Posted - 26 mars 2013 : 07:47:56
What title do you suggest?

BTW: This project was started on the basis of Osprey's MioPocket Mini 4.0, because initially I meant I can overtake most of Osprey's work. But with time detected too many inconsistencies. So I rewrote it from the ground up.
jeanleclerc Posted - 23 mars 2013 : 11:13:36
quote:
Originally posted by jwoegerbauer

Thought I should share it ...

MioPocket Mini 4.0 FV





jwoegerbauer,

compared both original MP Mini and your version. Nothing common more. Complete independent work. Why you called your work MP Mini?
H226 Posted - 21 mars 2013 : 09:24:16
It all depends on what you want ...
I also would say it makes no sense anymore to buy a new CE based system if you can get an Android alternative.
jwoegerbauer Posted - 20 mars 2013 : 15:45:11
@John Dough,

Seems you totally misunderstood me.
I only expressed Windows (Embedded) CE is a dead OS. I additionally remarked that one in near future will not have the chance to get a further update/ugrade of any existing navigation software written for CE. And I expressed my conviction that one definitly (today) buys garbage if it's a device based on CE. I never said Windows (Embedded) CE is a bad OS. Of course everyone can continue to purchase a CE based GPS ...
As you probably will know, TomTom ended maintaining their Navigator's CE version in 2009. NNG (iGO Primo) stopped maintaining their CE version in February 2012. Waze ended maintaining their navigation software's CE version in 2010. Mireo since 2 years no more distributes their viaGPS for CE. And so on ... I wont enumerate them all here.
I have therefore given away my CE based device and bought an Android based GPS. I also purchased a navigation software running on Android. This way I always get the navigation software's updates/upgrades for free (maps included).
BTW: I don't use cracked software as this is the case with some owners of CE based units who want to run the CE version of iGO, TomTom, GarminXT, Mireo, Waze, Navigon and so forth, for what reasons ever - probably they bought a cheap GPS and then try to illegally update this by themselves.

EDIT:
Last week I was invited by Microsoft to an information lecture on "Windows Embedded 8" - which replaces Windows Embedded CE. Will likely participate.
John Dough Posted - 20 mars 2013 : 14:00:13
I take your point but just because Microsoft support ends does not mean the useful end of these systems on various devices as I still have devices with CE 4.2 and they are working well with updates available for software every year.

I feel it is not necessary to change your device unless you are one of those geeks that has to have the latest gizmo/gadget always and as we know they are not always the best what with teething problems etc.

As they say horses for courses!!

jwoegerbauer Posted - 20 mars 2013 : 13:16:58
quote:
Originally posted by John Dough

I am afraid I have to disagree with you here regarding those CE versions largely now dead as you say.
I have been using MP4 on CE devices from 4.2 upwards for a number of years and I have yet to find similar sat navs with all the facilities that say iGO Primo offers ,yes you have to buy map updates every couple of years but apart from that none of the Tom Toms /Garmin/ Becker etc. come close to iGos software and of course there are third party options to improve this further.I will cetainly not be changing my gear just to have the latest "gadget" so to speak but except for a couple errors on MP which Osprey never got round to fixing before going awol I am extremely happy with CE devices.
Cheers


Taken from Microsoft's equivalent support page ...

Microsoft Product Lifecycle

Windows CE 5.0
Lifecycle started 31.08.2004
Mainstream support ended 13.10.2009

Windows Embedded CE 6.0
Lifecycle started 30.11.2006
Mainstream support ends 09.04.2013

Resume: In two weeks, beginning at time of this writing, also Windows Embedded CE 6.0 dies.

amyer Posted - 17 mars 2013 : 16:37:45
quote:
Originally posted by jwoegerbauer



If you are interested in "MioPocket Mini 4.0 FV", want to play with it, you can download this draft here.



Hi
test positive.
John Dough Posted - 11 mars 2013 : 17:10:57
quote:
Originally posted by jwoegerbauer

quote:
Originally posted by jb110

Always thought MioPocket is dead since years.


Yes, MioPocket also in my eyes is dead (Osprey stopped development in Dec 2010). Probably there is no need to revive and/or maintain it. MioPocket was developped to be used on poor featured CE based navigation devices. All navigation devices offered today - most of them are full-featured (ex. multimedia player,eBook reader,TV,WiFi,BT,iPod), regardless whether no-names or well known OEMs, if they are running Windows (Embedded) CE definitly are garbage - one should leave fingers off. This because Windows (Embedded) CE inbetween became a dead OS (Note that CE 6.0 already was relesed in September 2006, latest update dates September 2009), too. This fact also know the majority of navigation software authors like TomTom, NNG, Sygic, Navigon, Route66, Waze, etcetera: They now all (since 1-2 years past) offer their product ready for Android based devices. You will not find anywhere an accurate Windows (Embedded) CE version of their navigation software. All these CE related versions are miserably outdated. Why should one buy garbage? IMHO you won't see Windows (Embedded) CE based, poor-featured navigation units offered in 2 years.

P.S. The reason why I rewrote MioPocket Mini 4.0 is simple to explain: I wanted to help a neighbour who not in money swims and therefore needs to use her outdated navigation unit.



I am afraid I have to disagree with you here regarding those CE versions largely now dead as you say.
I have been using MP4 on CE devices from 4.2 upwards for a number of years and I have yet to find similar sat navs with all the facilities that say iGO Primo offers ,yes you have to buy map updates every couple of years but apart from that none of the Tom Toms /Garmin/ Becker etc. come close to iGos software and of course there are third party options to improve this further.I will cetainly not be changing my gear just to have the latest "gadget" so to speak but except for a couple errors on MP which Osprey never got round to fixing before going awol I am extremely happy with CE devices.
Cheers
jb110 Posted - 11 mars 2013 : 15:00:23
Hi jwoegerbauer,

the metro style fits perfectly with the original UI of my Mio Moov S400. Hope a final release will follow soon.
jwoegerbauer Posted - 08 mars 2013 : 15:44:20
quote:
Originally posted by jb110

Always thought MioPocket is dead since years.


Yes, MioPocket also in my eyes is dead (Osprey stopped development in Dec 2010). Probably there is no need to revive and/or maintain it. MioPocket was developped to be used on poor featured CE based navigation devices. All navigation devices offered today - most of them are full-featured (ex. multimedia player,eBook reader,TV,WiFi,BT,iPod), regardless whether no-names or well known OEMs, if they are running Windows (Embedded) CE definitly are garbage - one should leave fingers off. This because Windows (Embedded) CE inbetween became a dead OS (Note that CE 6.0 already was relesed in September 2006, latest update dates September 2009), too. This fact also know the majority of navigation software authors like TomTom, NNG, Sygic, Navigon, Route66, Waze, etcetera: They now all (since 1-2 years past) offer their product ready for Android based devices. You will not find anywhere an accurate Windows (Embedded) CE version of their navigation software. All these CE related versions are miserably outdated. Why should one buy garbage? IMHO you won't see Windows (Embedded) CE based, poor-featured navigation units offered in 2 years.

P.S. The reason why I rewrote MioPocket Mini 4.0 is simple to explain: I wanted to help a neighbour who not in money swims and therefore needs to use her outdated navigation unit.
H226 Posted - 07 mars 2013 : 15:47:55
quote:
Originally posted by jwoegerbauer

This skin modification decreases noticeably usage of RAM and/or Video-RAM. Not dozens of icons have to be loaded at once and kept in RAM and/or Video-RAM, but only a handfull per folder-page. "MioPocket Mini 4.0 FV" only consumes ~ 250KB RAM (plus RAM used by the applications launched from within "MioPocket Mini 4.0 FV").



Wondering why this concept isn't default. :)
jb110 Posted - 06 mars 2013 : 20:17:17
Awesome job mate! Always thought MioPocket is dead since years. Will give it a try.
jwoegerbauer Posted - 06 mars 2013 : 17:52:30
Thought I should share it ...

MioPocket Mini 4.0 FV


Some weeks ago a neighbour brought me her outdated 64MB RAM unit, running CE 5.0 Core. She asked me to install MioPocket 4.0 on it. She promised me a bottle of wine for the case I would have success. After thinking about this request, I decided to use "MioPocket Mini 4.0 Rel.2". But in a complete modified version, this due to the little RAM available. I decided to split the known MioPocket skin, as this was the case with all versions prior to MioPocket 4.0, into folders - that was the reason I subtitled the project 'FV'.
This skin modification decreases noticeably usage of RAM and/or Video-RAM. Not dozens of icons have to be loaded at once and kept in RAM and/or Video-RAM, but only a handfull per folder-page. "MioPocket Mini 4.0 FV" only consumes ~ 250KB RAM (plus RAM used by the applications launched from within "MioPocket Mini 4.0 FV").

A metro style Windows Phone 8 look and feeling also now possible: this what my neighbour wished.

I got two bottles of wine ...


Download:

If you are interested in "MioPocket Mini 4.0 FV", want to play with it, you can download this draft here.


Disclaimer:

Current state of "MioPocket Mini 4.0 FV" is 'AS IS Version' only. I haven't had the time to bring it to a stable / completed end. It may contain bugs, so be gentle. I'm sure you can fix them by yourselves. And as always: you use it at your own risk!

jwoegerbauer Posted - 05 mars 2013 : 10:48:59
quote:
Originally posted by Vallarta29

You can also try this tool to size your mp4 files
http://www.ilikemall.com/how-to/convert-avi-to-mp4-mac.html
I haven't done this in a long while, so do some research. Older software will still work, but might not be optimised to take advantage of more modern technology like multiple cores, etc


Appgeeker's Windows version is buy-ware: $35.95 USD. Use Freemake Video Converter instead, it's a Win32 free-ware! It became my personal favorite... With this tool you can also resize any video to a custom format of your choice (ex. 800x480, 480x272,etc).
super Posted - 02 mars 2013 : 11:22:35
Clearly that is completely sense-free, but it makes a heath fun. Though a little bit slow.

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