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 [TOPIC] Garmin "nüMaps Lifetime" Subscription

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gpspassion Posted - 03 oct. 2008 : 01:37:37

nüMaps Lifetime page : >> link <<

Note : if you buy a nüMaps card in a store you need to go here www.garmin.com/activatenumaps to activate your subscriptipon.
Updated 20110215 : CityNavigator 2011.40 Maps now available for North America
Updated 20100421 : CityNavigator 2011.10 Maps now available for both North America and Europe
Updated 20091119 : CityNavigator 2010.30 Maps now available for North America, see [TOPIC] Garmin CN NA NT 2010.30 Maps - 11/09 for details
Updated 20091021 : CityNavigator NT2010.20 maps now available in Europe.
Updated 20090730 : New CityNavigator NT2010.20 maps available under the Lifetime program see this topic for details.
Updated 20090408 : New CityNavigator NT2010 maps available under the Lifetime program see this topic for details.
Updated 20090121 : As was announced at CES, Garmin launched the "nuMaps Lifetime" program today with maps named 2009.1 (Navteq Q3/2008) available for download, either via this program or via the nuMaps Guarantee program for those who qualify.
Updated 20090107 : Now "official" at least for North America. Beginning Jan. 21st, lifetime (of the single device) quarterly map updates will offered at $120. (posted by gatorguy on page 5) full details in Garmin's Press Release.

It's likely new maps will be available for download for everyone starting on Jan 21st, including under the "nümaps Guarantee". Wonder what they will call them, NT2010 ? NT2009.1 would be preferable...

According to the press release, the web site to purchase the lifetime update service is www.garmin.com/numapslifetime which their web team has yet to release to the public. It looks like the marketing guys got an early start today (posted by grandknight on page 5)
Updated 20081018 : Spoke to Garmin France yesterday and it turns out it has been delayed until early 2009. Remember you read it here first like the original news about "nüMaps Lifetime" ;-) No real impact in the US as there are no new maps available, but in Europe those who can't wait will have to pay €80 for a single map update to get CN NT 2009 Europe released on October 15th.
Posted 20081003 : After announcing the nüMaps Guarantee last month, Garmin are completing their map offering with the "Lifetime Maps" program announced at the Mondial 2008 car show in Paris today. It is due to launch on October 15th and for $119 (€119 in Europe), subscribers will be able to download quarterly updates for their GPS system as long as they own it.

Compared to other map update programs on the market it falls in between Navigons's $79/3 years Freshmaps and TomTom's €68/1 year Map Update Service (unavailable in the US at this time). While it appears like a good way to stay up to date at a reasonable price, some users might balk at the asking price in a GPS market with free-falling prices.

I was able to ask Garmin some specific questions :

Q1 : what about x7x systems with NA and Euro maps ?
A. The user will have to choose which continent he wants to subscribe to, worldwide subscriptions not possible.

Q2 : what about GPS systems with regional coverat ?
The program is continental only, Europe or US, but they provide a tool to cut the region of your choice and fit it on the memory of your GPS, with the rest available to be loaded on an external memory card.

Q3 : transferable to a new GPS ?
A : no, although there is *some* flexibility as the service can be transfered once, in the case of defective unit for instance

Q4 : what happens if a GPS gets stolen ?
A : service not normally transferable

Q5 : compatible systems ?
A : All Garmin units starting with the SP C5x0, I think they mentioned they had to be compatible with the NT map format launched in 2006.

Questions, comments ?
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ELEGEND_YVR Posted - 27 avr. 2013 : 08:32:06
^ and where's the short version or a version not requiring a notary to paraphrase?
sussamb Posted - 25 avr. 2013 : 07:34:20
Well this is what they say, only limitation seems to be you can't transfer it to another product:

If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately or bundled together with certain GPS models), you will receive map updates when and as such updates are made available on Garmin’s website during the useful life of 1 compatible Garmin product or as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier, whichever is shorter. A product’s “useful life” means the period during which the product (a) has sufficient memory capacity and other required technical capabilities to utilize current map data and (b) is capable of operating as intended without major repairs. A product will be deemed to be out of service and its useful life to be ended if no updates have been downloaded for such product for a period of 24 months or more. Unless otherwise stated, the updates you receive under the subscription will be updates to the same geographic area included with your Garmin product when originally purchased. Third party content providers may change. In some instances, your Garmin product might not have sufficient memory remaining for you to load an update to the map data, in which case you will need to either (a) select reduced map data coverage for your updates, or (b) purchase separately a microSD™/SD™ card (if and as applicable to your Garmin product) and load all or a portion of the map data coverage for your updates to the card and insert the card into the microSD/SD card slot contained in your Garmin product. If neither of the measures in (a) or (b) can be used to address your product’s lack of sufficient remaining memory, then Garmin may conclude that the “useful life” of your product has expired. Garmin may terminate your nüMaps Lifetime subscription at any time if you violate any of the terms of this agreement or your subscription. Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription may not be transferred to another Garmin product
NanaimoRick Posted - 25 avr. 2013 : 06:29:22
I'm wondering if Garmin has changed their policy on this or whether I got some bad information from them today. I'm planning on giving my Nuvi2460lmt to my son when my 3597LMTHD arrives in the next week or so. I e-mailed Garmin today asking if I could deregister the 2460 and let my son register it in his own name and if he did that would the Lifetime Map still be valid on the device.

This is the reply I just received from Garmin:

Thank you for contacting Garmin International.


I'd be happy to assist you with this.

Yes, if you remove the registration from your account, it can then be registered to your son. The map updates are tied to the device, so no matter if you register it or him, it will get the free updates.

Please advise if we can assist you further.


With Best Regards,
danham Posted - 29 sept. 2012 : 20:09:25
At the very least it fixes the "hand-me-down" problem when you have adult children living away from the nest [g].

-dan
ATC7 Posted - 29 sept. 2012 : 19:44:11
Yeah, I still think on the whole this is a good thing, or at least a step in the right direction. From a seller's perspective it's great, giving a GPS with lifetime maps definitely makes selling a unit much easier. It's not nearly as good from a buyer's perspective, not knowing if or when lifetime map updates will cease.
tampa8 Posted - 29 sept. 2012 : 00:37:20
Not that I don't see your point, but the fact Garmin allows a new owner to continue free map updates, and has an avenue for them to do it is more than many companies do.
ATC7 Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 23:44:18
That's the issue I have with how Garmin is currently handling this. Essentially, under the current practice the new owner will forever be held hostage to the original owner as fas as map updates are concerned. Even if the original owner mistakenly deletes/de-registers the device, the new owner is SOL. Garmin needs to address this, it can't be that difficult unless Garmin is wilfully doing this which would be a shame.
alandb Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 23:01:47
Thanks for the clarification ATC7. This policy change has been discussed in a couple of other forums as making the purchase of a used Lifetime Map device a lot more attractive. But if changing the registration of the device to a new owner cancels the lifetime subscription, it puts the uncertainty back. I think we will still need to assume that used nuvi's bought on eBay or elsewhere will not have lifetime map updates included.
ATC7 Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 22:27:02
Ah, I knew I missed one (important) detail in my post : )

Yes, you do need to keep the device registered on your account. According to my correspondence with Garmin, they confirmed that if I delete the device from my account it will lose the Lifetime Maps add-on.

To me it seems as though this can be fixed internally in their system, kinda like an Apple product with AppleCare; AppleCare remains with the device, not the owner so whoever takes on the device AppleCare will follow. Not sure if Garmin is doing this purposely or it's a limitation in their system. I wouldn't discount the former, after all they'd sell more maps that way, but that's just the cynic in me talking.
alandb Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 20:23:40
Garmin recently changed the policy on Lifetime map updates to allow anonymous map update for a device with a lifetime map subscription. In other words, you no longer need to log in to a my.garmin.com account to update the map. But your post raises an interesting question. If a nuvi with a lifetime map subscription is de-registered, then registered to a new owner, does it cancel the subscription? Or will the new owner still be able to do an anonymous map update?
ATC7 Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 19:58:41
It's been a while since I've been here, but sorry to bump an old(er) thread although it's probably better to post here than to start a new one.

I recently got a nuvi 2455LMT from work (10 year service award - cheap bastards lol) and I decided to keep it to replace my aging nuvi 760. I really wanted lane assist and junction view, and also a snappier GPS as the 760 was starting to show its age.

Anyhow, I decided to give away my 760 to a friend who needs a basic GPS to get around and she can't afford one. Only problem is I had purchased a nuMaps Lifetime for it that I wanted the new owner to take advantage of. Long story short, Garmin can't transfer ownership of the GPS while retaining its lifetime maps feature so I was thinking of just giving my friend access to my Garmin account so she can do updates.

Well today I got a follow up email from Garmin support informing me that I wouldn't need to give out access to my Garmin account and they gave me instructions on how to do device map updates without logging into the Garmin account.

You just have to go to http://www.garmin.com/mapupdates and connect the device and select Map Update. It works like a charm and no need to log in.

I'm sure many here know this already but I just wanted to pass this along as I had a surprisingly tough time finding any reliable info about it. It might come in handy for anyone wanting to give away their GPS or sell it, and where they have Lifetime maps. It certainly adds value to the old GPS.
andens01 Posted - 10 mai 2012 : 08:16:33
After had re-booting a couple of times the download wnet well on my 3790T, but to my 760T 2013.10 doesn't seem to exist??!!
Fred Aldridge Posted - 10 mai 2012 : 07:11:53
I downloaded 2013.10 North America with no problems..It took about 2 hours...
danham Posted - 09 mai 2012 : 23:49:09
For those whose update appears to be "stuck," make sure it really is no longer moving data. Mine looked stuck for about 10 minutes but was in fact transferring to my zumo the JCV file that goes with the map.

-dan
smiley1081 Posted - 09 mai 2012 : 20:05:37
Downloaded on my A10 here in Italy, and on my father's 1350 in California.

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