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 [TOPIC] nuvi 12xx/13xx/1490 - User Reviews - v5.20

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Team GpsPasSion Posted - 03 mars 2009 : 13:17:29
TESTING - NUVI 12xx, 13xx, 1490

Link to the nuvi 1200 manual : >> HERE <<
Software versions : Main/5.10 - GPS/v4.30 - as of 20110309

From top to bottom : 12xx (3.5" screen), 13xx (4.3" screen), 1490 (5" screen)

Updated July 16th, 2009 : As some had expressed concerns that the 1490 was not as bright as other nuvis like the 760, I did some side by side comparisons on a bright sunny day and posted the pictures on page 10.

Updated 07/2009 : The new nuvi 1xxx GPS systems are now shipping and we have some first user reports from the road, such as Don's first impressions on page 7.

Posted 05/2009 : I had the opportunity to visit the new Garmin France offices in Nanterre just outside Paris to the West and was given a presentation of the new nuvi 1xxx series as well as the Zumo 660 (see separate topic). Unlike the 2xx series that was an entry-level 3xx/6xx when it came out and a bit like the 2x5 that predated the 7x5, the 1xxx has an identity of its own and introduces some new features not found on other nuvi models...Garmin's "feature peppering" at play some will complain...

Let's see what we have here :
1. New form factor : slim is in
New interface supposed to be easier to grasp for the user, can't say the nuvi interface as we know it since the 350 came out in late 2005 felt complex, but the tweaks are there.
3. Customizable map display mode, standard (two info fields) or vertical (four info fields). The info fields are customizable as opposed to none on most of the nuvis, and the right one only on the 7x5.
4. CityXplorer Mode : this is a major change in direction making good use of the new CityXplorer Maps based on Navteq's DiscoverCities maps with reach "pedestrian" attributes : paths, transit systems.

Now let's take a closer look with pictures and comments :


Nuvi 1490T with 5" Screen

Updated 20090416 : Garmin have just announced the arrival of the nuvi 1490T the big brother of the new 1xxx family with a 5" screen, the biggest on a "standard" nuvi so far (the nuvi 5000 has a 5.2" screen, is large and heavy and doesn't have a battery).

[b]Posted 20090303
: From
Now more than ever, it's true that the PND is no longer just for your car! Portable, lightweight and ultra-thin, the new nüvi 1200 and 1300 series units announced at CeBIT in Hanover, Germany, feature an enhanced pedestrian mode and premium automotive features that make them ideal for navigation on foot around the city and in the car. On the road, enjoy popular features like text to speech, lane assist, which highlights the preferred lane for navigation, Bluetooth hands-free calling, and free lifetime traffic alerts from NAVTEQ traffic. The nüvi 1390T even features junction view, which allows drivers to see realistic images of upcoming junctions. Exploring an unfamiliar city? Take nüvi with you! The 1200 and 1300 models also feature a public transit mode enabled through Garmin's new CityXplorer, an optional download that provides location and destination information for select tourist destinations in North America and Europe. CityXplorer allows the user to see bus, train and/or metro train route options and times, as well as the distances associated with them. Exploring the city has never been so easy! This new family of prouducts and CityXplorer data are expected to be available in the second quarter - just in time for the the summer travel season! In the meantime, stay tuned to the blog for all the updates and details.

Links provided by SergZak :
nuvi 1200 :
nuvi 1250 :
nuvi 1260T :
nuvi 1300 :
nuvi 1350 :
nuvi 1370T :
nuvi 1390T :
nuvi 1490T : >> Garmin Blog <<

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sussamb Posted - 26 avr. 2011 : 18:26:06
Just for those who haven't read other posts about this update, it has a bug in it that causes all your favourites to be displayed as the Garmin default 'black square'. If you've taken the time and trouble to allocate other icons to your favourites, as I have, you won't want to update to 5.20!
rbarrigas Posted - 26 avr. 2011 : 18:14:38
5.20 available

Changes made from version 5.10 to 5.20:

* Made several map-drawing improvements.
* Fixed several FMI-related issues.
* Fixed an error that caused the wrong keyboard to display for certain regions.
* Fixed an error that caused audio and Bluetooth features to not function unless the unit was restarted.
* Fixed an error that caused the device to prompt users to turn the wrong direction on certain routes.
* Fixed an error that caused routes to calculate slowly.
gpspassion Posted - 10 mars 2011 : 00:51:14
A small (on paper) new update for the 1xxx series :
Changes made from version 5.00 to 5.10:
- Added Brazilian Portuguese Language Support.
- Corrected Greek Language Support.
keakuanku Posted - 10 janv. 2011 : 06:50:57
Hi All,

Need your advise. I have Garmin Nuvi 1260. The first condition of this Nuvi was stucked on the Garmin Logo. When I re-flashed this unit with the service firmware (.rgn) and I realized that I choosed the wrong rgn files and now the gps always restart and not showing Garmin logo anymore.

I checked using g7owin and it's showing the firmware is nuvi version 5 :(

Is there any possibilities to fix it using another way without send to Garmin service center?

Thank you.
rbarrigas Posted - 07 janv. 2011 : 12:56:10
Updated yesterday. Everything OK!
SiamMarine Posted - 05 janv. 2011 : 10:11:03
Direct link to download
ddabcd277 Posted - 05 janv. 2011 : 09:39:13
Hello guys,

New Firmware version 4.90 available for 12xx, 13xx and 14xx series

Change History
Changes made from version 4.70 to 4.90:

* Fixed issue with junction view files not updating properly during a map update.
* Fixed issue with audio intermittently not working.
* Fixed issue with Australia Topo map turning off the unit in certain conditions.
dcnuvi Posted - 29 nov. 2010 : 02:47:44
I've tried all the standard tricks to get bluetooth to work and no luck. Unit will now only go a few minutes with bluetooth connected and it kills all sound. No phone activity required, just being connected does it. I can not even disable bluetooth with out a reboot. Even turning phone off does not dissconnect the nuvi from it's frozen bluetooth state.

On a possitive note the TTS of the Nuvis is stellar compared to the TomTom, Google Nav, Ndrive etc. It gets so much right and the others get so much wrong. I failed to give my old 760 enough credit for this.

I'm starting to think about the soon to be relased 2360LMT or 2350LMT might be to my liking. 3790LMT is tempting but too pricy for me.
dcnuvi Posted - 27 nov. 2010 : 18:54:34
Well after a little bit of time driving with the new 1490LTM this is what I found.

Bluetooth connects and works but is non useable. Phonebook won't download, and incoming calls kill all sound on the Nuvi and even screen touch beeps are gone. Sometimes the unit just freezes up totally. Turning off phone bluetooth and restarting Nuvi clears up issue. My friends 1490 behaves the same way, 3 different types of phones tried now.

Seperate from the bluetooth issue I have had screen lock ups from navigating the menu and pressing buttons perhaps too quickly. Reboot.

Routing is typical Nuvi, with very minor differences from my 760 on how it behaves regarding street prefference on a recalculation. 1490 was slightly better on taking a smarter path to get back on coarse.

Initial routing for a trip is normal Nuvi reliable and accurate, slightly better overall than the TT540TM, but when driving and a recalculating is needed the TT540TM was much calmer and more likely to route an acceptable new coarse in your new direction, whereas the 1490 freaks and desperately orders a backtrack coarse for too long until it recalculates the new route which was faster and shorter than the backtrack it was trying to get you to take.

Touch screen lags some times.

I didn't think I would like the mount as much as the Easy Port but it works better and faster. 760 mount still rules.

POI searched is back the way I like them and zipping thru the menu is much faster for me than the TT. Easier to organize extras and favorites and load into nuvi.

Thanks to the voice editor program by turboccc I left the 'recalculating' prompt blank and now enjoy the lack of a feature that I didn't miss on the TT. Should have done this long ago on the 760.

I understand now the praise by some for the 760 as a feature rich, reliable navigator as everything on it worked flawlessly. Causes some irritation to me that the lower feature set 1490 has more bugs and has been out for long enough to get a fix for most. I will try reloading latest firmware again, hard resets etc and see if it settles down. If not I will have to settle with using it as a basic navigator.(which has been fine so far)
dcnuvi Posted - 21 nov. 2010 : 09:22:06
Well as I posted over in the XXL540 user reviews, I returned it and got the Nuvi 1490LMT today after trying out my friends for a few days. The major reason for that is the superior POI search by category that has been such a great assist to us on holidays. It is much easier to search for shopping and dining etc if you don't actually know any names of the pois you are interected in, just browse by category. Nuvi is much more complete in this regard.
Now if only it had settings for earlier turn instructions, map color changes, avoid road by name or distance, mapshare....
Too bad a person can't merge the two like a set of custom pois.

On this 1490 with latest maps and firmware I compared it to my 760 with identical maps.
Identical routing and instructions, sometimes they talk in perfect harmony, at least here in my town.
Screen is bigger. Brighter by a little bit, but expected a bigger difference after all the glowing 1490 screen reviews. Map details are clearer and crisper, and with both set on MOST map detail the 1490 actually shows everything the 760 does plus more because of the bigger screen and a slightly different 3D viewing angle. I certainly do not understand the critcisms of map detail by what I see here, it is an improvement over the 760 and equal that of the TomTom XXL540. Everyone does know the Nuvis only show the street names of streets that actually join the road your on don't they?
Big speaker! I keep it turned down to 60 or 70% to avoid the big distortion, must have the amplifier cranked up.
I like having more data layout on the screen but I feel they wasted a little too much map space for it. Makes the map portion smaller than the 760 and XXL540 in the same mode. I prefered the XXL540 with a horizontal data bar layout the best of them all, just my taste.
Nice to have a sliding swipe screen, but after using new smartphones I find it a bit wanting. I end up just pushing arrow buttons like the previous gpss to avoid an error.
The screen is big, and when looking at the map there is to much white space. Garmin it's time to change things up and let users have some color scheme options, just a little please.
1490 is faster and easier to use and route than any other gps I've used. Everything the 760 was as a navigator, but turbo charged and supersized.
My biggest regret was it is so similar to the 760 in many ways I expected a much different experience. Instead I got the shiny new model of my very favorite old model, which as it turns out to be a good thing.
rbarrigas Posted - 08 nov. 2010 : 15:53:19
Updated to 4.70. So far so good...
gpspassion Posted - 07 nov. 2010 : 01:32:33
Thanks for the update, you beat me to it. Just updated the "Software versions" part in the first message ;-)

Wonder what these new RDS TMC receivers are, so far for miniUSB recevers we had the GTM25 for the 2x5 and 1xxxx and the GTM35 (same, more voltage) for the 37xx, maybe for the new 2xxx models?
NanaimoRick Posted - 07 nov. 2010 : 01:00:23
Garmin has released firmware version 4.70 for the 13xx and 14xx. The update is available via Webupdater and the Change Log reads:

Change History
Changes made from version 4.60 to 4.70:

* Added support for GTM26/GTM36 accessory.
* Corrected an issue that sometimes made an ad unreadable.
* Corrected an issue with Loc8 Zone B.
* Corrected an issue where Convenience stores would show under Fuel category on Europe 2011 maps.

Topic heading changed to read version 4.70
Boyd Posted - 30 sept. 2010 : 16:59:05
There is no "setting" for battery vs external power, but the unit should remember what you have set in each mode all by itself. However, I used a 1350 for several months myself and found the brightness settings kind of puzzling as they didn't seem to be consistent. Not sure if this is a bug or a "feature". For one thing, it has what I'd call adaptive brightness. If you are close to dusk or dawn, the unit will automatically modify the brightness setting in order to make a less startling transition from day to night mode. All the newer models seem to be like this.
JohnDough Posted - 30 sept. 2010 : 16:52:31
Thanks for the replies.
In regards to
#1, its the power cord's that intefere with the radio's - i'll check into a ferrite core

#2 So far I havent found a separate setting for powered vs Battery, but i'll keep looking cause thats a great idea

#3 Ive tried answering yes and it lists the POI's - I dont have a "skip" I can add/remove a check in the box for each one. from there I have to either "install" or use the back arrow. Ive tried both checking and unchecking the box then the back arrow. But still every power on I get the message unless i actually do the install

#4 Hard reset now complete - Thanks it seems better, although I havent installed the poi's from the card yet (and hope not to unless I cant get rid of the message)
ST-Bob Posted - 29 sept. 2010 : 12:08:40
#1 Do you mean the Nuvi's FM transmitter doesn't work well in your car or that the Nuvi's power cord interferes with AM or FM reception of radio stations?

If you mean the Nuvi's transmitter produced static - not much you can do other than using the internal speaker or a cassette adapter if your unit has a headphone jack.

If the power cord blocks radio reception you may be able to help by putting ferrite cores on the power cords either near the GPS or near the cigar-plug. Wind the cord through the core a couple of times and try it at each end. At one time Radio Shack carried these in their component area but I don't know where you'll find them for-sure.

#2 If you set the brightness when on battery to be dimmer than when on external power, it should be obvious when the power is removed. It will increase battery life too. Otherwise there's no way to display the power status on the map screen.
NanaimoRick Posted - 29 sept. 2010 : 05:17:40
Question 2 - Not on the map screen but on the main screen (Where To? - View Map) if there is a battery strength icon in the top right corner of the screen, your running on battery. If there is no icon in the top right corner of the screen, your running off of the cable.

Question 3 - You need to answer YES to the 'copy' prompt. I know that doesn't make sense but once you answer YES the device will display the various POI files, one at a time, that are going to be copied to the Nuvi. For each file that appears, select SKIP. Once all the files have been 'skipped' you will not see the copy prompt at boot up again until you make a change to the POIs on the SD card.

Question 4 - You need to do a hard reset and it should be done after any firmware update. The procedure for the 1xxx models can be found at
JohnDough Posted - 29 sept. 2010 : 04:49:55
I have a 1350T that I have a couple questions about.

1st- I use 3 different power cables (1 in each car so I just transfer the unit) and all 3 give me very bad static on Most radio stations, there are only 1 or 2 stations it doesnt seem to effect mostly in the area of 100fm, if I unplug the cables and run on battery then no static. I'm using 2 'ebay' cables and 1 original Garmin traffic cable- the ebay cables are not for traffic, but they do allow normal use of the GPS.

2nd- is there ANY way on the normal GPS map screen to see if you are on Battery or Cable? I HATE it when I drive for a couple hours then get out and the GPS stays on or goes dead because its been on battery

3rd- When putting POI's on a storage card, is there anyway to say NO to the 'copy to device' message and not have to say No every boot/power on? I wanted them stored on the card only but I also dont want that message all the time. so for now I had to say yes and copied them to device which brings me to question 4

4th- All was good with the speed of the device booting and calculating routes UNTIL... either I did a firmware upgrade or loaded a Whole bunch of POI's ( from above card). Im not sure which since I did both the same day, but now 90%of the time bootup is very slow up to 2 minutes sometimes ( letting it time itself out though the agree screeen ect) - this is too long as I also use the device to track mileage and by then i'm way down the road and I make many many stops a day, so it adds up. the other 10%of the time it loads quickly as it use to. - Another example of its slowness is if I route to a place straight down the road about 3 miles, it will calculate to about 70-80% fairly quick then hang for about 10 seconds then finish

Thanks for any help / suggestions
Don Posted - 04 sept. 2010 : 00:58:37
Well, I speculate that there's more to this update than what they listed. I was having trouble with linking to traffic (no icon or mostly gray), and also with my iphone Bluetooth link. Also, "Daniel" started stuttering again, reminiscent to troubles I had with the 760 last year. I'll look to see if this update made a difference to these or any other changes.
rbarrigas Posted - 02 sept. 2010 : 12:12:58
Anything new besides the loc8 files support and the fleet management fix?
gpspassion Posted - 02 sept. 2010 : 00:56:22
v4.60 now available :
* Fixed an issue where the Fleet Management Interface Estimated Time of Arrival can be off.
* Added unlock support for loc8 files.
Don Posted - 22 août 2010 : 01:29:14
Well, I discovered that some of my favorites still dissapeared. I'm not sure exactly when, but my restore from my latest backup didn't seem to bring them all back. I had to go back to a backup from before the 4.4 upgrade. By going to the older backup file, I was able to rename it to current.gpx and not have to have a current1.gpx file to confuse things.

SergZak, I wish there was a rhyme & reason where some of the favorites are kept. I actually have given up trying to figure it out. I must have deleted one favorite 50 times, but it shows up after most updates. Can you or anybody out there explain how the different GPX files are suppose to work? What does the Nuvi do to the current1.gpx and how does it create the current.gpx from it? What if you have a current2.gpx file? Does it combine these files together? What about temp.gpx? Why does it seem that you cannot rename the current1.gpx to current.gpx without losing the contents of the file once it boots? Why is current.gpx file so small at 50K and the current1.gpx, fluctuates beetween 200K and 3MB, even though it looks like the same data is in the smaller and larger current1.gpx? The archive folder in the gpx directory is now saving copies of the 50K current.gpx file rather than the larger ones that have the data in it. It's all rather confusing!

I'm sure glad I kept some older copies of my gpx files so I could get a decent restore.
rbarrigas Posted - 21 août 2010 : 13:31:08
Upgraded my nuvi 1390 to 4.50. Everything went fine, since instead of using favorites I keep my locations on custom POI's.

It seems faster while connecting to PC via USB.
SergZak Posted - 20 août 2010 : 23:20:00
For all those that have favorites magically being restored or "not erased" after the firmware update/hard reset process, check inside the GPX folder on the nuvi and I'll bet good money that there's a gpx file there that's named anything BUT current.gpx (current.gpx will always be there). This is where your favorites are being restored from.
Don Posted - 20 août 2010 : 20:38:50
I just updated and it went fine. My favorites needed to be restored from backup, since the ones that showed up were from an older version, which mysteriously shows up after a reset. Everything else has to be restored, including Avoidances, Language, etc. At least it's easy to reconnect the Bluetooth to my phone. That process used to be APITA, until a previous update made it work much better.

I always look to see if map-street-detail has improved, which, as expected, has not.
rbarrigas Posted - 20 août 2010 : 17:22:19
what about map drawing speed. Any diferences?
Lilla Posted - 20 août 2010 : 06:07:52
I just updated the firmware on my 1490T from 4.40 to 4.50. FYI, Map 2011.20 is installed.
To my surprise, it did NOT erase my favorites. They were still there even after I turned it off and restarted. I am using categories, and all of the entries I checked looked just fine.

As expected, it did restore my settings to factory default settings.
As expected, it left my Custom POIs alone.

Perhaps it didn't delete my favorites because it determined that my favorites were healthy. When installing previous updates, I always backed up my favorites before, and did a master reset after each update.

In any event, just to be on the safe side and because this is what I do after any update, I did a master reset, then restored my favorites using my backup copy, and then re-entered my settings. All looks good.

arrow201 Posted - 20 août 2010 : 06:00:02
Most of the settings on my 1390T also went back to their default values after
updating to 4.50. I even had to recalibrate my screen !
reuenthal Posted - 19 août 2010 : 22:48:14
This update performed a hard reset on my 1310, hence the instructions on how to restore favourites. You will also lose the current track, and all custom settings. Other than that it seemed to work ok, I will road-test tomorrow.
rbarrigas Posted - 19 août 2010 : 18:09:22
Any problems after update?
NanaimoRick Posted - 19 août 2010 : 15:59:19
BE REALLY CAREFUL WITH THE 4.50 RELEASE as per the changelog:

Changes made from version 4.40 to 4.50:

* IMPORTANT: If your device is running software versions 4.30 or 4.40 your favorites will be erased with this update. Please see below to learn how to back up your favorites.
* Fixed a problem in software versions 4.30 and 4.40 with Favorites after a software upgrade.
* Corrected a problem related to starting up the unit in mass storage mode.
* Improved software updating process from update cards and GCD files.
* Added location of Language Guide files.

In order to backup your favorites from your Garmin device you will need to follow the steps below:

Instructions for a PC:

1. Connect your Garmin device to your computer
2. Double-click on My Computer
3. Double-click on the Garmin device drive
4. Double-click on the Garmin folder*
5. Double-click on the GPX folder
6. Right-click and copy the Current.gpx file
7. Locate your computer's Desktop and right click
8. Left click and paste the Current.gpx file

To send the file back to the GPS please follow the steps below:

1. Find the Current.gpx file on your computer and right click
2. Left click on Rename
3. Name the file Current1.gpx
4. Press Enter
5. Right click on the Current1.gpx file
6. Left click Copy
7. Connect your device to your computer
8. Double-click on My Computer
9. Double-click the Garmin device drive
10. Double-click the Garmin folder*
11. Double-click the GPX folder
12. Right click then left click on Paste
13. Disconnect your device from your computer and allow it to boot up.

Your favorites will now be restored on your device.

*Note: Not all Garmin devices require this step

Instructions for a Mac:

1. Connect the Garmin device to the Mac
2. When you see the Garmin device mounted to the desktop, double-click on it
3. Left-click on the Garmin folder
4. Left-click the GPX folder*
5. Right-click and copy "Current.gpx" file
6. Right-click and Paste Item on Desktop

To send the file back to the GPS please follow the steps below:

1. Locate and Right-click on Current.gpx file
2. Left-click "Get Info"
3. Under Name & Extension rename the file Current1.gpx and press Enter
4. With Garmin device connected to Mac Double-click on Garmin Drive
5. Left-click on Garmin Folder*
6. Left-click on GPX Folder
7. Locate Current1.gpx file from your Desktop
8. Right-click and copy the Current.gpx file
9. Right-click and paste the Current1.gpx file into the GPX folder on your Garmin device.

Your favorites will now be restored on your device.
rbarrigas Posted - 19 août 2010 : 15:44:43
Version 4.50 available.

Don Posted - 26 juil. 2010 : 09:55:32
"Our software engineers are aware of this issue and are working to release a software update to solve it. We appreciate your patience."

My advice is to skip Update 4.4 if you use the Category feature within Favorites.
NanaimoRick Posted - 24 juil. 2010 : 18:37:03
No problem Don, I'll fire off a note to Garmin as well.
Don Posted - 24 juil. 2010 : 06:08:11
Thanks for the fix, Rick - that worked. I know my categories in favorites were fine before the update, and messed up just after. In the past, other updates have wiped out my favorites in its entirety. That's why it's so important to backup the GPX file before any update.

Again, thanks for the help. I just sent an email to Garmin Support.
NanaimoRick Posted - 24 juil. 2010 : 03:04:13
Although I can't say that it was the 4.40 update that screwed up categories on my 1490T, they sure are a mess. Never noticed it before as I don't tend to use the categories much. :-)

Anyhow what I did to fix it was to first delete all the favorites on the 1490 using Tools - My Data - Delete Favorites - Select All - Delete. Then I attached the Nuvi to my PC and copied a backup of my current.gpx over to the GPX folder on the Nuvi, making sure I renamed the Current.gpx file to Temp.gpx before I sent it. The favorites are now in the categories properly as far as I can see.
Don Posted - 24 juil. 2010 : 01:36:29
Just updated to 4.4 and all my Categories under Favorites are messed up. Most are gone, and others are appearing in the wrong ones. Restoring to my backup GPX file did not fix the problem, so there seems to be an issue with 4.4. If some one confirms this, then I would not suggest updating if you use the Category feature.
darrengsaw Posted - 04 juil. 2010 : 22:09:46
It seems to me that map draw is rather quicker and smoother with this release.
NanaimoRick Posted - 02 juil. 2010 : 21:41:03
Just fine.
rbarrigas Posted - 02 juil. 2010 : 15:31:01
Problems after update? Everything ok?
gpspassion Posted - 02 juil. 2010 : 13:27:43
Thanks for the heads up, now updating mine!
NanaimoRick Posted - 02 juil. 2010 : 03:43:13
Garmin has released firmware/software version 4.40 available via webupdater. Change log reads:

Added Loc8 Postal Code functionality for Ireland.
Corrected issue that could cause unit to remain stuck on copyright screen.
Corrected issue that could cause unexpected shutdown when satellite reception is temporarily lost.

See for full details
NanaimoRick Posted - 26 juin 2010 : 17:22:05
I don't find the 1490 to take much longer than any of my other Nuvi's but your right, the hourglass does roll for a long time in some cases. Expect it's another example of the Nuvi's being under powered, processor wise.
Captcaper Posted - 26 juin 2010 : 16:52:52
The 1490 I have doesn't like to search for a name I spelled. The hour glass stays on forever without a return. Does this often on me. I do this Were To/POI/Spell Name
rbarrigas Posted - 23 juin 2010 : 00:15:32
You're all right guys. Keep version 4.20.
NanaimoRick Posted - 22 juin 2010 : 23:20:49
Looks like maybe Garmin pulled 4.30 from their website. Webupdater is not offering me a firmware update either and with the web page saying 2.10, yet listing the change log for 4.30, they certainly have done something in a hurry.
darrengsaw Posted - 22 juin 2010 : 22:44:05
It won't offer me that option either, but the Garmin page says 2.10 at the top. All sounds a bit odd.
gpspassion Posted - 22 juin 2010 : 21:37:41
Interesting, did you get it via the WebUpadter ? I'm running v4.20 on my 1490 and it's not offering me any new update for the time being.
rbarrigas Posted - 22 juin 2010 : 12:45:38
4.30 released.

Changes made from version 4.20 to 4.30:

* Added Loc8 Postal Code functionality for Ireland.
gpspassion Posted - 21 juin 2010 : 09:45:25
There have been reports of problems accessing the Garmin servers lately I'd give it another try later, it's bound to work at some point ;-)
Dario5555 Posted - 21 juin 2010 : 09:19:33
Originally posted by PouchX


Changes made from version 4.10 to 4.20:
* Added support for Luxembourg and Netherlands traffic and safety cameras.
* Improved EcoRoute accessory connection handling.

I have an error trying an update: "There was a problem communicating with the Garmin website. Please try again later. If you continue to experience this problem, Contact Garmin Customer support"


MiniDriver Posted - 19 juin 2010 : 19:41:19
Hello. I've had so much trouble with my Nuvi1300T compared to the TomTom One IQRoutes I had before it, I wanted to see if anyone else has had a similar experience. When I first got it, I was delighted with it, otherwise I would have taken it back to Halfords and got another TomTom instead. I liked the way it reads road names (if only for the amusing pronounciations it comes out with for some of them) and initially the routes it planned were pretty good. I preferred the route it came up with for the twiddly bit at the end of getting to my parents the first time I went down there using it, but it's never calculated that route again.
I have had no cause to contact TomTom tech support, as the unit just worked pretty much as I expected it to, but Garmin tech support seem to be masters of answering questions you didn't ask and not answering the ones you did.
I didn't have the traffic option on the TomTom, so I can't comment on that, but I've had problems with the one on the Garmin. Sometimes it seems to work, sometimes it doesn't. Tech support advised me I have to mount the cable away from the unit along the bottom or side of my windscreen and away from metal panels. What the hell do they think my car is made of?? Besides, I drive an austin mini, there's not much 'away' from anything. Because of this, I still find myself stuck in crawling traffic at times. At others, it does do something - it re-plans in truly bone-headed ways, without any notification it's done so.
I would certainly advise people who need to get around near London not to get one: The last few times I've been down that way, it's sent me straight through Central London. Indeed, just to see what it would do last time it planned that route, I got Dad to write me instructions of how to get to the A3. It wasn't until I'd been on the A3 for a while that it stopped telling me to turn round.
For those who have never had the misfortune of crossing central London by car, I direct you to the TopGear episode in which, I believe, the car was beaten by Public Transport, a bicycle and a boat. I've heard it said that the average speed of traffic in central london hasn't improved since Victorian times and that seems to be about right. But only if the horses never got up to a trot.
There are very few cases in which crossing central London is going to be quicker than taking the orbital, and it's much more stressful than the motorway. I broke down on a slip road to the M25 and was run off the road by an X5 where there was no hard shoulder and that was *still* less stressful than crossing Central London. Maybe if the car had actually been on fire crossing London might have seemed preferable. It's like driving through a town where all the pedestrians are playing Frogger and the other drivers Crazy Taxi.
The main problem I have with the way the traffic system works is this: It doesn't tell you it's doing anything. So, you plan your route and look at it, and yes, it's going M40, M25, A3, nice and sensible, and so you're free to concentrate on not having your Honda Accord turned into a Honda Accordion or whatever. Except you get out of the way of the twat in an Audi who was sat 6" off your bumper because you were in the middle lane overtaking a truck and *not* doing 90, and suddenly you realise you're on the M1, and when you stop at the services to find out what's going on, the planned route turns out to now be straight through Kensington and Chelsea.
Yes, I should probably pay more attention to road signs on long journeys, but as far as I'm concerned the satnav is there so I don't have to: My car - and no, I can't afford one with an NCAP rating, even if I *did* sell my beloved mini - has all the safety features of a wheely bin, so I prefer to keep my attention on the road. If I'm reading road-signs, I'm *not* giving all my attention to what the drivers around me are doing. There have been several times where, had I been looking at a sign, I might have missed a sudden application of brakes or unindicated lane-change and had a smash.
Because of the Nuvi's... interesting planning decisions and a closure of the M25 slip road, I found myself having to drive through central London at 2am, which just adds the fun of the pedestrians being drunk. I had to ignore a left-turn and have the unit re-plan in Clapham because there was a man sat in the middle of the road crying.
Even in the middle of the night it took what felt like several years. I can't see a 5-minute delay on the M40 as a problem compared to that, frankly and it's not always possible to stop and force it to re-plan according to your wishes when you're doing long motorway runs.
Sometimes its arrival time estimates are spot-on - I did a run to Birmingham and arrived at New Street station car park within 5 minutes of its estimate. However, it's always way out if going on the M60 as it seems to not pick up any traffic there.
The main problem I have with it, however, is its avoidances which are rubbish. It seems to think U-turn avoidance is optional, and the inability to avoid a particular road/place or just re-plan differently, which you can do in many different ways on the TomTom units, is just pants.
There's a road near me which is twisty country lane of the sort that's brilliant fun in the daylight, but, in a low car it's a killer at night, as the headlights of oncoming cars completely blind you and so you have to guess where in the inky blackness the road, stone walls and trees are. With the Nuvi1300, (something tech support tells me is the case with *all* Garmins) I'm told the only option is to set a Via point which means you don't go that way - and even then I'd not trust it not to send me to the via point, come back home and then go off up that road *anyway*.
The one good thing about it is that it seems to have an accurate map of Coventry and hasn't got lost at the underpass off the ring-road yet, but maybe that's at least partially because I have more idea where I should be going now. It's still planned some bloody stupid routes to get out - I was heading off along the A46 I think it is, to get to the M40, and it spent the entire time along that road telling me to come off and go back the other way.
The Garmin's screen itself is bigger than the tomtom's, and its pronounciation of road names can be good for a giggle, but that doesn't make up for its other shortcomings for me.
bobaber Posted - 09 juin 2010 : 00:54:14
I have just come back to the 1490t from the navigon 8100t. Both have advantages. My gripe is how much space would it take for the garmin 1490t to give the names of the towns and cities you are going thru or close by your route. It seems to be a good unit but on a trip in unfamiliar territory it would be nice to know the names of nearby cities and towns.. My 680 had this info.
gpspassion Posted - 08 juin 2010 : 17:24:51
Good...and not surprising, problems with updates have really been few and far between over the years, serious ones even less.
rbarrigas Posted - 08 juin 2010 : 15:53:16
Upgraded to 4.20. Everything went fine!
rbarrigas Posted - 04 juin 2010 : 01:35:15
Haven't tried 4.20 yet...
gpspassion Posted - 03 juin 2010 : 14:14:11
Everything went fine here with 4.20, are you have any problems yourself ?
rbarrigas Posted - 02 juin 2010 : 12:45:18
Anything new? Problems after installation?
gpspassion Posted - 01 juin 2010 : 23:34:15
Thanks for the heads up, title and first message updated.
PouchX Posted - 01 juin 2010 : 22:43:15

Changes made from version 4.10 to 4.20:
* Added support for Luxembourg and Netherlands traffic and safety cameras.
* Improved EcoRoute accessory connection handling.
NanaimoRick Posted - 20 mai 2010 : 15:56:23
You will find the speakers are really to loud in most cases. The difference between the 1490 and older Nuvi models is quite dramatic. I never have the volume level on the 1490 over 60%, even in the worsted conditions. I suspect there are bigger speaker in the 1xxx line because it's increased size allowed Garmin to place larger speakers in the unit.

I also find that the latest update to the firmware may have helped the screen touch issue a bit. I have never found it practically bad but it seems that after installing firmware version 4.10 the times when a screen tab isn't recognized as dropped some. I also find that using your finger nail to tap the screen instead of the pad of your figure makes the screen more responsive to taps.
freestyler Posted - 20 mai 2010 : 11:10:58
How about the speaker, is it louder? And you've mentioned about the touch screen, it takes commands after a hard press? not sensitive enough?
Don Posted - 20 mai 2010 : 09:46:06
It’s been awhile since I posted -

Yes, I still have my 1490T and have gotten use to it and have no desire to change. I bought this for almost $500 last July, and now I see it on sale for around $200. Obviously, I think it’s a great deal.

The overwhelming reasons that I like the 1490T are that it has one of the largest & brightest screens on a portable GPS, and the navigation is excellent. It gets me where I need to go and it’s easy to see the directions at a quick glance, even in the bright sun. The other features such as traffic, voice commands, routes, etc. are all important, but to me, they are all secondary.

I don’t use the eco-features, pictures, calculator or currency exchange, but I did load the red-light camera database from the poi-factory (small fee), and this works exceedingly well. Another secondary feature I use is organizing my favorites into categories.

Sure, there are things that I wish were better, but nothing was a deal breaker for me when I bought it, and I remain of that opinion.

I “upgraded” from the 760, and am also disappointed with the lack of street name detail, when driving or using it as a map when I try to find a street. I remain bewildered that Garmin took away the level of detail, and, in fact, in the (close to a) year that I have owned this, the detail has actually gotten worse in subsequent updates. Freestyler, if these features are very important for you, then by all means, stay away from this model. I keep wishing a new upgrade will show more map detail, but it hasn’t happened yet.

I also wish it was faster, showed the street/highway I am driving on in navigation mode, had the ability to override a given route (i.e. like Google) and wish the touch-screen felt better, but I remain loyal to this particular model, and I have no desire to get rid of it.

Thanks for asking, freestyler!
freestyler Posted - 18 mai 2010 : 08:06:12
BabyDoc and Don, I've seen both of you stayed with the NUvi 1490T and that makes me think...

Regarding I've owned a nuvi 760 and now a nuvi 865T, would this nuvi 1490T worth it?

I mean what would you do if you would be in my situation....

I feel the need for a change, but I don't want to regrete after, I really like the cross streets names, it's very usefull, I don't know what this guys at Garmin think of but I am really looking for a nuvi with really loud speakers and the big screen, although I rarely browse the map to find a destination, I'm making my route on my PC then transfer it, but I do look often at the gps for cross streets name, especially for build in POI

I don't know what to do...but if I buy it then seel it I wont loose that much as these unit still sells well on auction sites, max 50 pound I guess, but still don't know if that is worth it:)
The local Garmin dealer doesn't have the NUvi 1490T to test doesn't have that much good videos about it...
navxguy Posted - 17 mai 2010 : 18:52:08
... and as a side note, the 1690 shows every cross/side street when driving through residential/slower speed areas ... not sure why it would vary across devices; especially when the screen is bigger and would allow more detail. One of Garmin life's mysteries ...
BabyDoc Posted - 17 mai 2010 : 17:15:27
The latest firmware does not add any road details. Cross street names do appear, just not as many as some people would want.
freestyler Posted - 16 mai 2010 : 12:11:28
Hello, I am planning on nuying the nuvi 1490T, can you terll, the latst firmaware 4.10 has aded the cross streets names?

Or the map is still blank except when you tap a street?

gpspassion Posted - 12 mai 2010 : 19:18:29
And now v4.10, details here :
gpspassion Posted - 20 avr. 2010 : 19:36:00
New v4.00 version available, details here :
dan smtih Posted - 05 avr. 2010 : 15:46:30
No GO button problem? I encountered the same problem, but had some files WITH a GO button and some without. I use Excel spreadsheets to create my data files and 'save as' cvs files. There is NO discernible difference between the files that did work and those that did not. Go figure. I did stumble upon a work around though. The problem must be tied to having 'Alerts' because to get the GO button to appear, transfer the file (GOI loader) using the MANUAL download option (not automatic). Then toggle to NOT transfer ALERTS. This worked for me!
gpspassion Posted - 29 mars 2010 : 00:07:06
v3.90 is out :
Changes made from version 3.70 to 3.90 :
* Corrected an issue that can improve performance with traffic information.
BabyDoc Posted - 19 mars 2010 : 19:14:50
Neadrenalin, forgive me that I just don't understand what you are missing since the 1490T is my first Garmin. I am sorry you are missing your old Nuvi 300 Still there are things you can do to navigate with the 1490T that you may not have tried.

For example, if you are in map view, press anywhere on the map screen and it will bring up BROUSE MAP view. You can then move screens, swiping with your finger on the map, to get to the map portion close to your intested destination. Once you are near where you want to go, you can zoom in to under 200 ft,and then see surrounding POI's you may recognize that are near your ultimate destination. You then can press on one of these, and you will be given a GO-to option. You press that, and you are on your way. This is simple enough for me, but I do understand how you miss what you are accustomed to using.
neadrenalin Posted - 19 mars 2010 : 11:52:04
Just calculate the clicks and try to use nuvi 765 for example, to compare features and covinience.
I miss on old nuvi 300...
Captcaper Posted - 17 mars 2010 : 21:41:20
My 1490 has crashed a few times during routeing,calculateing,recalcuateing. I called Garmin and they said to do a master reset. We'll see. I got the latest updates as well.

BabyDoc Posted - 17 mars 2010 : 14:19:57
In your P.S., I think you answered your own question. Just skip inputing the house number, and your Nuvi will give you a range of numbers to guess at. If you know a POI that is near you destination, you can use the nearby POI's address to help you approximate the house address a bit closer.
neadrenalin Posted - 17 mars 2010 : 09:41:19
Where to - Address - Spell city - Street - House - and you have no choise to improve the search by cursor on 1xxx.

People often remember other cities and buildings near the object, or they have guidance with some other objects in description.
Where to - Cities - Spell..
With 1xxx you can not point on map for the city you want to reach.

I often use street name and no house number to find for example McDonalds on my favorite street. Then I use the map pointer. On 1xxx I can't.

Any other suggestions?

ps. of course there is a solution - where to - browse map. But! I need to know where to browse, and in 99% cases I use approximate address search, and then try to improve it:
"Where to" - Address, Cities, POI, etc - just to find something near the destination. Then I return to Where To again and click button "Near", select "A recent destination" (confirm by OK, then click on latest object), click "Browse map" and finally I can point the target.
BabyDoc Posted - 16 mars 2010 : 22:35:42
Maybe you could explain this feature, 'point with cursor on map'. The 1490T is my first Garmin, so its hard to miss something I wish it had, if I really don't understand what it didn't have.
neadrenalin Posted - 16 mars 2010 : 20:27:56
People, I need help.

Do you miss the find feature 'point with cursor on map' on 1xxx units? Please, vote and explain why?

Old units 2xx/3xx/7xx had it.
gpspassion Posted - 14 mars 2010 : 14:03:15
Ah, once again proof that Garmin doesn't tell us everything ;-)
eijo Posted - 13 mars 2010 : 12:32:39
I have installed the 3.70 at my 1310T. It's now possible to select Swedish as text language again. No other differences compared to 3.60 i think.
gpspassion Posted - 12 mars 2010 : 16:59:07
v3.70 now avalable :
Changes from version 3.60 to version 3.70 :
Corrected an issue that could cause the text language selection to revert to American English with older Traffic translations.
Corrected issues with the fleet management interface.
Not much to write home about but Garmin don't always disclose all the changes ;-)
gpspassion Posted - 26 janv. 2010 : 14:58:24
v3.60 software is now available, with the GPS firmware being bumped up to v4.30 too, details here :
NanaimoRick Posted - 20 nov. 2009 : 23:36:22
EcoRoute changes include a new page when you shut the unit down while plugged using the AC or, I suspect, the car adapter. When shut down while plugged in and powered, the Nuvi now displays the "battery charging" message as usual, but with a larger font and leaves the screen brightness high. There is also a summary called "traveled" which summarizes distance traveled, MPG, Fuel used and cost. I suspect this is a summary of the data 'traveled' since the unit was last turn on.
gpspassion Posted - 20 nov. 2009 : 22:40:59
Oh that's a big jump ! Would be interesting to know what they have changed/improved, I found the original GPS FW to work well on the 1490, on par with SiRFstaIII ->
PouchX Posted - 20 nov. 2009 : 22:32:36
I have GPS FW v4.10
gpspassion Posted - 20 nov. 2009 : 22:27:33
Thanks, title updated and message linked from the first message.

Any significant change in EcoRoute?

Is the GPS FW still at v3.62 or has it been updated too?
PouchX Posted - 20 nov. 2009 : 22:21:20
Firmware 3.40

Changes made from version 3.30 to 3.40:
* Enhanced ecoRoute experience.
* Stop button now allows cancellation of a route calculation on the main page.
* Corrected an issue where some roundabouts would not show the roundabout icon.
* Corrected city search when using the World Clock to display all cities, not just those for which detailed maps are available.
* Corrected behavior of the vehicle selection page.
* Added a timeout for Bluetooth connections.
* Corrected text alignment issues in right to left languages.
* Fixed a shut down that could occur if searching for an intersection.
* Added ability to change the phone number of built in Points of Interest.
* Corrected unexpected behavior when adding a stop to a route in the 1400 series.
bav Posted - 05 nov. 2009 : 20:16:54
I noticed that with one of the latest firmware updates, this old
issue was fixed: When you are driving and obtain the list
of restaurants, this first list is updated continuously, and what
is important, it is now 'refreshed' almost every 30 seconds. In the
initial implementation, it got a list from all available
restaurants in the neighbourhoud and updated the distance
while you are driving. Now it retrieves a new list of restaurants
every xxxx seconds and continuously updates their distances.
Good work!
NanaimoRick Posted - 01 nov. 2009 : 19:46:44
Not sure if this discussion belongs in a thread reviewing the 1xxx Nuvi models but I have no idea what you mean my "kiddie maps" and my experience has been that the maps on any Nuvi, or TomTom as far as that's concerned, are more up to date, detailed and accurate than any built in car nav system.
lostandbewildered Posted - 01 nov. 2009 : 19:37:17
I've not got anything really constructive to say, but I have been wanting a GPS for a number of years now for the second car, I have never managed to find one thats up to the job. I like what this range should do, but the reviews keep my money in my pocket, I'm not the kinda bloke that just throws money out on a whim, I like value, or at least something that is quality.

I have a gps in the mercedes that is old, maps are out of date, but at least they're not kiddies maps, can someone please guide me to a range of gps that have proper adult maps? I don't have the time to search for hours on end getting no where. TIA
Dewi Posted - 17 oct. 2009 : 15:01:06
Yes, without Bluetooth and the lifetime traffic receiver for a $50 lower MSRP.
gpspassion Posted - 17 oct. 2009 : 14:56:27
A new 1450 then, apparently the 1490 without Bluetooth, at least according to
bluzark Posted - 17 oct. 2009 : 14:54:05
gpspassion Posted - 12 oct. 2009 : 22:00:53
Thanks, neat additional features on that version!

v3.20 is out for the NA and Euro models, details here :
pillowcase Posted - 28 sept. 2009 : 00:40:34
Posted some comments and screen shots for a Taiwanese 1370T.
joec Posted - 19 sept. 2009 : 22:52:06
> when Apple comes out with a competitor it'll be a lot better.

Well, certainly it will have a cute name. And it will look great.
It will have a better user interface than anything we have now.
That will help most users immensely.

But Apple's history is that technologically they have fewer features than their competitors. It doesn't seem to matter to the demographics that they sell to though. Most of them believe in "form over function." Geeks are the reverse.
Bebokkos Posted - 19 sept. 2009 : 19:45:44
I have started a new topic on 1490T 'Map Detail Issue'.
It's here:

I have posted images to clarify the situation. Please have a look.
IDG Posted - 08 sept. 2009 : 17:01:53
To gpspassion:

I tried the "POI along the route" option and it did not work either. Also this option requires that you are under guidance, which may not be desired at times. This feature works perfectly on older units.
ateixeira Posted - 08 sept. 2009 : 16:01:22
I thought so, also, and when he looked again he simply had the address wrong. He did find his old Favorite and was able to re-enter it.


He's more critical of his GPS device that I am. It's his first, and I guess he had high expectations. He think when Apple comes out with a competitor it'll be a lot better.

I still think Garmin makes the best ones out there today, flaws and all.
gpspassion Posted - 08 sept. 2009 : 12:41:35
Interesting, I'd noticed that the distance and hearding got updated in the list of POIs but not the actual POIs. Does it maybe require "find POIs along route" to be activated ?
IDG Posted - 08 sept. 2009 : 05:30:43
I recently bought a Nuvi 1200, as I was attracted by its "thinness". Having owned several other Nuvi's (including the 350, 370 and the 500) I am really annoyed at the relative high level of SW bugs in the unit, many of which have been reported in this forum. One of the features I always liked while traveling is watching the list of a specific POI I am interested in (say restaurants: Where to?->POI->Food and Drinks->All Food) displayed and constantly updated until I find something I like and then have the Nuvi get me there. I just tried it on the 1200 and to my surprise after a couple of minutes the units stops finding new restaurants but keeps on updating the distance to the old ones. I was hoping that SW version 3.0 will fix the problem but no dice! In order to get an update I need to hit return and search again. I hope it is a bug and not a feature, so it can be fixed in a future SW update.
NanaimoRick Posted - 04 sept. 2009 : 21:55:16
The firmware version will not affect whether you can find an address or not. That information is in the map data which you haven't altered.

The best way to enter an address is NOT to enter the City name. In your friend's case he should enter Maryland as the state, then on the 'Select City....' screen tap on Search All. Then enter 4600 for the Number and Flower for the Street. Then select Flower St from the choices provided and when the list of Cities appears, select Takoma Park, MD.

I just did it using 2009 maps and it works fine.
ateixeira Posted - 04 sept. 2009 : 20:56:58
Thanks, we had not looked but when I sent him the link, he did look, and he managed to do the upgrade just fine. So now he has v3.

He did lose his Favorites, though he only had 7 to re-enter (this is his first GPS and it's still new).

Oddly, he could not find one of those.

Can anyone with v3 try to find this address in MD?:

"4600 Flower Ave., Tacoma Park"
NanaimoRick Posted - 04 sept. 2009 : 17:52:22
Originally posted by ateixeira

I just e-mailed him and he has v2.7, but he's got a Mac and isn't sure how to perform the update, so I offered to help him on my PC later.

All he needs to do is download the Mac version of Webupdater, which he probably should have anyway as it's how all Nuvi updates are offered.
ateixeira Posted - 04 sept. 2009 : 17:41:22
Wow, great thread folks. Glad to hear v3.0 is out. Losing Faves would be unacceptable.

I sampled one that a friend of mine bought, a 1490T. He said he paid $430 to order it on-line. I have a SP C340, Nuvi 200w, and Nuvi 260w, and previously owned a c320 that I sold to a co-worker.

I compared his 1490T to my 260w, side-by-side. This is a $430 compared to $179, so not a fair fight, but of course I was very impressed.

First, someone complained there is no user's manual, but Garmin now has it available on-line, here:

The big screen is a thing of beauty. 28% more real estate but if you think about it the buttons move outward so the map itself seems double the size. The screen is a bit brigther than my budget-priced 260w, with sharper images and much more detail in the icons. I'm impressed, but I should be.

The maps re-draws itself faster also. Map panning was fine for me. I used my fingernail, like moofy recommends, and had no problems at all. It did take some getting used to, I'm used to dragging my finger across the screen, with his all I had to do was touch the map at a specific point and it would re-center around that point, and did so quickly. Just tap one spot lightly with a finger nail, it works well.

He did have issues with the Bluetooth, it worked OK with his phone but he could not see his phone's address book. Calls where clear and as others mentioned the sound improved. His phone is a Samsung model SCH-U540, FWIW.

I just e-mailed him and he has v2.7, but he's got a Mac and isn't sure how to perform the update, so I offered to help him on my PC later.

Overall - I like it, I'm jealous for sure. $430 ain't cheap, but I look forward to seeing lower priced models, maybe a 1400 (?) or 1450 (?), or 1460T (?), for a lower price, then I think I'd sell my 200w and upgrade.
gpspassion Posted - 04 sept. 2009 : 15:47:27
Yes, SergZak just started a topic about v3.00 ->

I updated my 1490 and it also bumped up the GPS firmware to v3.62.
doc_holiday333 Posted - 04 sept. 2009 : 14:24:04
Originally posted by Captcaper

Has Garmin come out with a fix for the 128 waypoint issue yet?

Yes, update 3.00 by webupdater since yesterday [ed]

regards Charly

Captcaper Posted - 03 sept. 2009 : 11:05:22
Has Garmin come out with a fix for the 128 waypoint issue yet?
NanaimoRick Posted - 03 sept. 2009 : 03:24:20
This and most any other automotive GPS will have a harder time obtaining a fix in large cities with tall buildings and trees preventing a really good clear view of the sky.
jreuschl Posted - 03 sept. 2009 : 01:57:41
What are your thoughts on the performance of the GPS receiver? I just had it on a trip to Paris and seemed to take a long time for it to get a GPS fix. I know the first time there would take a while since I'm in a different part of the world, but it still seemed to take a while to get a fix with any kind of buildings/trees around.
SergZak Posted - 24 août 2009 : 23:43:10
The color change depends on the sunrise/sunset times for the area you are currently in. For example, the difference will be three hours between the West coast and East coast of the US.
doc_holiday333 Posted - 24 août 2009 : 23:41:35
hello, it uses the time of sunset/sunrise which are calculated at your exact position in the background (on my GPSMap 76 CSx I can see that timetable on one of the pages)

regards Charly
bav Posted - 24 août 2009 : 22:55:16
I have a question; maybe not specifically for nuvi 1350.

Do you know when the nuvi switches from day mode to night mode
and vice versa. Is it using an algorithm taking into account
the day/month season and Latitude. It seems to shift a few minutes
a day.

best regards
jotne Posted - 17 août 2009 : 22:50:05
I do not see what this observation has to do in the 1xxx hardware thread?
GadgetGuy2008 Posted - 17 août 2009 : 19:42:08
Shevy - the processor speeds have no bearing on how "fast" the Garmin models perform. Why? Because even if the processor in the new models were twice as fast Garmin still manages to screw up the software so that the unit acts just as slow as the older models.

Shevy Posted - 17 août 2009 : 16:42:46
What processor speed new models??????
7xx is 330MHz
12xx,13xx 1490???????
Don Posted - 16 août 2009 : 21:11:01
Yes, I'd like to ask others if they are having slow response times and possible accuracy problems with routing & recalculations. Yesterday the unit seemed to take forever, stopping at various percentage completion points for 20 to 30 seconds each. The entire calculation must have taken 4 minutes! Then when I saw that it was taking me off the freeway for no apparent reason, I redid the route (30 miles, single destination), and it took another 4 minutes and produced a completely different route. This was all traveling in the extensive Freeway systems of Southern California in which there are plenty of choices and can really test the programming of the Traffic Avoidance.

I know that the long-time/inaccurate routes are related to the Avoid Traffic setting, and I currently have subscriptions for both Navteq & Clear Channel - if I turn off the Traffic Avoidance, the routes are quick and what’s expected. Maybe the traffic reports were off (on a Saturday), giving wrong information that the unit couldn’t process efficiently, but I’m still disappointed at how long it took.

Something else for Garmin to work on...
Cads Posted - 16 août 2009 : 18:51:00
For Garmin nuvi 1490T, Pann-ing map is almost impossible, it is jerky than scrolls more than you want. Huge problem.. Even in detailed map it does not label some points of interst or local river/lake names anymore as you are driving. Autorouting is slower but probably can live with it. Nice if the upgrades went the other way though!! Same with map drawing..
johnbrock Posted - 15 août 2009 : 14:21:41
JB940, I hadn't thought of using a stylus. I can imagine that would help, if being slightly inconvenient. I used iPaqs for years so there's lots of them around.

Thank you, Don, but I'm afraid I've given up, for now. Went to Best Buy yesterday to swap the 1490 for a newer one and played with lots of units. They had received a shipment the day before and had a 1490 with a SN of 16xxx (mine was 32XX) and I almost went for it, but ended up leaving with a 765t. The touch screen response was just SO much better I couldn't take a chance with another 1490.

I already miss the larger screen, although it's potential was wasted with the low resolution. I found the 1490 screen to be slightly brighter than the 765 at 100%. Really missed is the ability to have the info blocks on the right of the screen. There's a little more map detail on the 765, not nearly as much as the 276c.

That's about it. I liked most things about the 1490 and would still have it were it not for the touch screen. One thing I haven't mentioned, and all of you already know but it's new to me, is the great sensitivity of the new units. I get a signal indoors in places I never could with the 276c.

Just to ramble and be off topic, you mention the iPhone/iPod Touch and to me it really is the standard in a touch screen. Of course it wouldn't work with gloves on, but I'd put up with that to have that responsive a screen. But then I never thought there was anything wrong with buttons. And lastly, speaking of iPhones, jailbroken iPhones, we could all have what we want in these nuvis with some skilled hacker/GPS enthusiasts building us custom firmware! :-)

Thanks Don and everyone. I'll be keeping an eye on the 1490 and will be back if the screen improves.

John B.
JB940 Posted - 15 août 2009 : 05:15:05
I noticed when I use a stylus on my 1490T the movements are quite accurate.

My biggest complaint about the 1490T is the lack of street names even when you max out on the zoom. I was wondering if its worth a call to Garmin to complain. Maybe if enough people complain they would be more likely to correct this.

This is a great place to read about peoples experience with their GPS. I appreciate all of the good information.

Don Posted - 15 août 2009 : 01:10:29
John, my newer 1490's screen-feel is just marginally better, and is still frustrating to use, especially when I was used to the excellent screen response on the 760. I wish Garmin could look at what Apple did with their iTouch screen.

If I press firmly and deliberately on the return-to-main-menu button, four out of five times it works fine, but the other times it is either non-responsive or selects something from another part of the screen! Moofy’s fingernail suggestion does seem to work consistently, however you have to remember to use your fingernail!. Interestingly, the fingernail technique doesn’t work on an iTouch screen(which actually works with the heat from your finger rather than pressure (chip courtesy of Broadcom)).

Hopefully, Garmin will work on tweaking the interface a little, and hopefully the problem isn’t inherent in the hardware.
moofy Posted - 14 août 2009 : 19:09:19
On my 1490T, I don't have to really push the screen at all for it to respond.

I do see the rubber-banding, but learned that using a fingernail instead of the tip of my finger works great at moving the map around.
johnbrock Posted - 14 août 2009 : 16:12:21

You had mentioned some improvements in your new 1490 as compared to the old one. Have you noticed any change in the response of the touch screen? On my 1490, a 33xx unit, I need to give the screen a pretty hard push to get any response, the zoom buttons more often than not move the map, and dragging the map usually results in the back and forth "rubber band" weirdness. I'd swap it out at Best Buy if a later unit might be better.

I've enjoyed reading your 1490 comments. I'm starting to get used to it, accepting it for what it is. I'd been looking for a successor to my GPSMAP 276c, and now realize there won't be one.

Thanks to everyone for these informative forums.

John B.
Captcaper Posted - 14 août 2009 : 12:36:31
Thanks Guys

I'll be reading these Nuvi fourms as usual to keep up to date on the units and future units.
I'd try another brand but I from what I read they are worse then Garmin in a lot of ways.
Don Posted - 14 août 2009 : 09:27:49
Sorry to have lost you, Captcaper. I also was thinking about the 30 days, which came and went last week. For the good and bad, I’m stuck with the unit.

For me, the good outweighed the bad, and I didn’t have a 2720 to fall back on. The 3 overriding reasons I kept it were:

1. The navigation works fine.
2. I love the larger screen size and it is bright & clear.
3. It’s easy to use.

I am willing to give Garmin a pass (for now) on this unit since it was my decision to buy a brand new model, albeit with bugs & idiosyncrasies that accompany the decision. Since these models are Garmin’s new direction, I figure that their programming staff is busy writing new features and updates for these, rather than spending time on their older models. And I don’t mind that Garmin released this unit before all the bugs were worked out. The fact is, no software is ever perfect, as proven by releases that are always coming out on even their older units. My goodness, look what we went through on some of the versions for the 7xx models, the ones that SergZak are now recommending.

Granted, if my 760 didn’t die last month, I would not have purchased the 1490. But do I regret getting it? Not a bit!

Rekwin, I wrote extensively in this forum about all the problems I am having with cityXplorer for the Washington DC area. Hopefully, this will get updated and corrected soon. Make sure you email Garmin Support, and tell them your experiences.
jotne Posted - 14 août 2009 : 07:35:39
For me it seems that Garmin has forgot one group of GPS user, the techno freeks that need everything, and have money to pay for it :)
SergZak Posted - 14 août 2009 : 01:48:40
Agreed. Your 2720 will be -very- hard to top, or even match. I know some that have resorted to purchasing backup 2720s (among other similar units) because the new models just don't measure up. Good luck in your quest and thanks for the valuable input you've provided in your reports.
Captcaper Posted - 14 août 2009 : 01:32:27
I know those Nuvis well. I've read all about them..They just aren't as equal and good in my own opinion to my 2720 for navigating,mapping, vetical data boxes,remote,and many more user options for Mapping,Navigation,etc.
I'll pass until one is released in the future that might appeal to try for 30 days.

SergZak Posted - 14 août 2009 : 01:22:04

You may want to have a look at the nuvi 760 or 765. Both are good units and are quite stable now after numerous firmware updates. True, not as much screen-estate as the unit you returned but good enough for most folks. The map detail issue is pretty much non-existent on the 760 but the 765 is less detailed as you've seen in my screen shots and nowhere near as bad as the 1xxx units. You can easily find the 760 for about $200 now, the 765 for about $300-$400.

Sorry it didn't work out for you but you've done the best thing (in returning the unit) to let Garmin know of your dissatisfaction.

I would not have tolerated all the bugs that these units are plagued with either.
Captcaper Posted - 14 août 2009 : 01:11:42
I just returned mine and got the refund before my 30 days were up. I couldn't take the hassles and lack of Street Pilot type features for the extra money I have spent on it. After all I own a 2720 so I really don't need to keep a GPS that can't hold more then 128 waypoints,etc.
I'll use the 2720 again for now as it does just fine without any issues and gives equal or better navigation and mapping results.
I will miss the speed limit signs,larger screen,portablity.
Rekwin Posted - 13 août 2009 : 21:27:21
I found this board searching for anyone having the same problem I was having with the new Garmin Nuvi pedestrian mode. I have a Nuvi 1250. Initially, the unit would just shut down when I tried to use the new pedestrian mode with City Xplorer. I corresponded with Garmin technical support on this issue which acknowledged that they were getting similar reports from others and that they were working on a fix. This problem seems to have been corrected with firmware release 2.7 although I haven't tested it extensively. Since then I have tested pedestrian mode with City Xplorer in two cities with mixed results. In both cases, I was not actually in either city but told the unit to find a route between two selected locations ( in simulation mode). More often then not the unit simply grinds away looking for alternate routes but never finds anything with me shutting it down before the batteries die. Sometimes the unit just gives up and tells me I can't get there from here. Other times the unit seems oblivious to obvious public transit choices. For example, I tried to get a route in Chicago using public trans (commuter trains) but the unit seems incapable. I was familiar with the Chicago transit system so I gave the unit what should have been simple routes to find between the suburbs and downtown Chicago. The unit would report it could find no routes even though I knew that there were public transit options available (I have used them for many years) The unit seems to recognize Metra stations as public transit but when I selected two stations on one line and asked for a route between them (pretty simple one would think) the unit suggested I walk the 5 miles between two train stations. The unit did successfully find a route between a hotel in Redondo Beach and the Hollywood Bowl in LA. This has been my only success (and not being familiar with LA, I don't know if this was the best or even a good route.) The unit could not find a route between the same hotel and Santa Monica Pier, however. I have exchanged emails with Garmin on this problem but, except for generic instructions to update software, I have not received any acknowledgment of others reporting the same problem nor any indication that they are working on a fix. I also note with concern some of the other issues raised by Don and others on this board in particular the lack of street name detail.
Captcaper Posted - 12 août 2009 : 13:24:08
My re route calculations have been fine. I'm not using Bluetooth,etc. just routeing from A to B. I haven't tried any complex routes yet.

I did notice yesterday "Favorites" that I deleted to keep Garmins memory open came back. So deleting them threw "Tools" then "My Data" "Delete Favorites" doesn't work. I believe Don mentioned about this before.
Don Posted - 12 août 2009 : 08:50:02
My old unit did a master reset without me doing anything (a few days after the firmware/map upgrade). The replacement unit did its own master reset immediately after I downloaded a CityXplorer map. The unit already had been firmware & map upgraded. Except for this, my new unit has not done a spontaneous reset.

BTW, CityXplorer problems that I have listed before have not been fixed under this new firmware. In, fact, I have tried different routes that would require taking the Metro in DC, and the new Enhanced Pedestrian Navigation does not provide the best route, quite often telling me to take two trains and transferring, rather than one train that runs the entire route. Also, a new bug seems to have shown up in version 2.7 that immediately turns the unit off when hitting the main menu button when in this mode. Unit still freezes when searching for other routes. This Enhanced Navigation Mode is still a big disappointment.

Again, it's important to save your favorite & POI files before doing any upgrading, which I guess is a good idea anyway. But these new units definitely have a propensity to reset itself after an upgrade or map install.

Also, I always make sure to “Safely Remove Hardware” on my PC (and a similar operation on a Mac) before I disconnect the Garmin.

I have also experienced no audio on the Garmin when connected with Bluetooth to my cell. I think I just changed volume and it came back. And I still find it annoying that it doesn't connect to my phone automatically if i turn the phone on after the GPS.

I have been experiencing very slow Recalculating when veering off my route. Sometimes 30 seconds or more, which seems like an eternity. Has anyone else noticed this?
Captcaper Posted - 10 août 2009 : 23:22:49
I don't have any problems disconnecting from PC were it would reset and ask for Country,etc.
Try reinstalling 2.7 again. There is a free Mapupdate out now too you can get. 2010.2.
coolasmoo Posted - 10 août 2009 : 22:48:57

Ive been using a Nuvi 1490T for about a week now and ive got a couple of problems which i thought i would share.

Im using the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic with the Nuvi and im happy to report that everything so far works fine connected to Bluetooth except the following problems:

1. The sound can sometimes be very low to the person i am calling. Sometimes its ok, but other times it is very quite. no explaination really.

2. The sound on the unit itself on start up will sometimes not come on, with the phone connected or not. This only comes back by pressing Mute then unmute.

3. The most anoying thing though is the unit sometimes decides that when i turn it on, it has reset itself, i think i have pin pointed this down to connecting it to the PC as everytime i unplug the nuvi from USB it asks me to enter country code and i have to redo all my settings and data, which is a pain if im honest.

I am using the latest firmware 2.7 and have done all the additional updates through the Web updater including the Bluetooth update.

I have performed a hard reset to see if this would cure the issues but i dont believe this has, Do you think the unit is faulty or is the above a common problem ?

Thanks guys
moofy Posted - 10 août 2009 : 22:10:25

You were correct - the voice-prompts for POIs need to be in WAV format.

But, for some reason the POI loader needs a file called SOX.exe in order to convert them to the Garmin format. I searched online and found this file, dropped it in my POILoader directory, and it worked like a charm.
Captcaper Posted - 08 août 2009 : 12:26:08
I got my POI Favorite GPX file to work. I went to the Nuvis POI file withing the Garmin folder and deleted the POI files manually then resent the GPX file via POI Loader. No matter how many times I asked the POI loader to remove the old ones first I guess it corrupted the files doing so. So with a manual remove and a fresh install it is working again.
NanaimoRick Posted - 08 août 2009 : 03:04:31
If the 1490 will work with wav files, I don't know if it is mentioned in Gary's excellent tutorial or not but there is a great website for creating your own wav files. You just type in the phrase you want to be said for a given POI file and it will create a wav file of the text. There are a choice of TTS voices that you can select for the wav file as well.

For example, if you have a POI file for McDonalds restaurants you can type in "McDonalds ahead" and then create the wav file that will say that when the proximity speed or distance is reached for those POIs.

The site is at

Note that the saved wav file will have a long file name that will make no sense. For it to work on the Nuvi you'll need to change that file name to match the name of the POI file, the same as you need to when using MP3's.

Although totally off topic, sorry, this site can also be used to create a wav file and then use any of free wav to mp3 programs floating around to make mp3 files that can be used for POI alerts on Nuvi's that support those file types but not wav.
GadgetGuy2008 Posted - 08 août 2009 : 02:28:51
moofy - according to Garmin specs the 1490T does not support/play mp3 files. But you can try wav files. Here's a tutorial
moofy Posted - 08 août 2009 : 01:19:04
Has anyone gotten MP3 audio prompts to work with the 1490T POIs?

On the 885T, if you have an MP3 file in the same directory as the POI (like for the red light cameras), it will play the MP3 as you approach. The one I use says 'There is a red light camera ahead'.

But I loaded them on the 1490T, and it only sounds a beep when approaching them. I guess this is just another thing they decided to remove from the series?

Captcaper Posted - 07 août 2009 : 23:40:35
I found another favorite problem. I made a GPX file in Mapsource of all my Waypoints (Favorites) and send it into the POI file with the other POI's so I would have them all and at the same time leave room in Garmins "Favorites" memory for new found ones on the road I might save. BUT....the ones in the POI come up showing the label on the map but there is no "GO" button. I have "GO" buttons with other GPX files from POI Factory,etc. I've tried different ways to send it and can't figure out this one yet. I have no problems sending this file in standard Garmin .GBD to my 2720. I'm postive I used this method this past business trip and was able to have a "GO" button. What has changed?
Go figure.
Don Posted - 07 août 2009 : 21:03:58
I just downloaded my cityXplorer map, and my unit reset and I lost all my favorites again. It also did this when I updated the software. This is getting tiring.

My suggestion is to make sure you do a backup, whenever you do any updates or download a map. At least it (so far) hasn't done a spontaneous reset, like my previous unit.
Captcaper Posted - 07 août 2009 : 18:38:04
moofy Posted - 07 août 2009 : 16:30:42
Regarding the 128 waypoint limit, I e-mailed Garmin support, and received a response back this morning:

Thank you for contacting Garmin International.

I do apologize for this inconvenience.
This is an issue we are aware of.
A software update is in the working to correct this.
It should hopefully be out very soon.
Don Posted - 06 août 2009 : 07:43:07
Two things of note:

1. I did not get the Spontaneous Master Reset (SMR which is ASA (Another Stupid Acronym)) until I upgraded the firmware and map. I had lots of other problems, including Spontaneous ShutOffs (SSO), Spontaneous ReBoots (SRB), and the dreaded Hour Glass of Death (HGD), but it never reset on me.

2. After exchanging the unit, I have not had any SMRs, SSOs, SRB or HGDs with 2.7 & 2010.20, but I’ve only had the new unit for a few days. I know I had an early serial number, 1Q0001xxx, which was replaced by 1Q0008xxx, so maybe these earlier units had some problems with the upgrade.

Sorry for Attempting To Make Humor In An Otherwise Serious Discussion (ATMHIAOSD), but sometimes you need it when dealing with these new products. It’s why they call it a GPS which, of course, stands for Guinea Pig Syndrome!
sunnyjerry Posted - 06 août 2009 : 06:10:13
Software corrupted and My Favorite locations keep missing or mistaken after reboot

Hello Moofy,
I had the My Favorites issue and I can not delete all my corrupted My Favorites by System Master Reset (pressing the bottom right corner while power on). But I am glad that it seems work by delete all the GPX files in GPX folder shown in the Garmin Drive.

I am still working on sending my previously download GPX file (from StreetPilot c330) back to new Nuvi 1390T…The My Favorites issue happened right after trying to send GPX file to Nuvi 1390t and this process seems to corrupt My Favorites and probable the system software.

The download and upload software that I was using is ExpertGPS:
It is powerful but a kind of dangerous since I suspect it corrupted the system by send My Favorites GPX into some internal memory locations which is not supposed to be used publically.

This is what ExpertGPS claim on their promotion webpage:
[Maximize your GPS Memory]
Your Garmin nüvi 1390T has limited storage space for waypoints. Once you reach that limit, your GPS can't hold any more data. Smart ExpertGPS users have figured out how to eke out every last bit of memory space on their Garmin GPS receivers.

Hello Don,
I faced the same issue again. After many hours hard working on my categorized My Favorites manually, all of them just disappeared overnight after the automatic reset for unknown reason.

Since I am afraid of using any automatic upload / download GPX software for the Nuvi 1390T, I thought it would be safe by manually key in every individual My Favorites. It turned out, disappearing again (corrupted).

I called Garmin Technical Support. After waiting on the line for about 30 minutes, the representative told me it is his first time hearing this kind of NEW ISSUE and he will report the issue to the engineering department. The Garmin representative told be to maybe wait for 1 month to see if there is on-line software update available (My current version is 2.70 and the Garmin guy told me to wait for the newer software version…)

Garmin Nuvi 1390T
Software Version: 2.70
Map version: 2010.20

Software corrupted and My Favorite locations keep missing or mistaken after reboot
1. The software keeps reset itself after Power Off and all previous settings are gone when Power On.

2. My favorites locations stored in GPS are missing or are gone or changing after Power OFF and then Power On.

3. After performing [Tool] - [My Data] - [Delete Favorite (s)], My Favorites locations are erased at that moment but all My Favorites locations come back again after Power OFF and Power ON. There is no way to erase My Favorites locations permanently.

4. I try to conduct System Master Reset by pressing the bottom right corner of screen while turning on the GPS but all the issues above still there. The strange thing is right after the System Master Reset, there are still many My Favorites locations listed in the menu. They are always there and My Favorites locations are keeping changing.

5. I had go Garmin on-line to update the latest software and Map but the issues still returning and still there.

6. My Favorites cannot conduct the new location upload sent by Google, Garmin POI loader, Garmin Map Source nor 3rd party software such as ExpertGPS, etc.
Captcaper Posted - 05 août 2009 : 18:42:32
no external antenna on the 1490 I know for sure. I suspect any of the 1xxx series doesn't either.
emilvex Posted - 05 août 2009 : 18:28:41
I need [ed - see PM] information about the new Garmin, I need to know if "old" external antenna that can be used on all previous models of Nuvis can be still plugged on these new units, or (as I suspect) they lost also this feature...?

Thanx in advance.
Captcaper Posted - 05 août 2009 : 12:31:13
My 2720s been perfect. It calcuates routes faster as well it seems.
As far as Garmin they have and still can change and give us what a lot of us want. They've done it in the past. They did it with the 1490s vertical boxes comeback.
Don't give up and email them with your comments. I did as I've always have.
I know for a fact they get feedback from this site.

Boyd Posted - 05 août 2009 : 03:11:06
Originally posted by flomat

For example, a four year old Garmin unit like streetpilot never crashes, hosts enough processing power to provide smooth scrolling, a very responsive touch screen and very short search times.

I loved my StreetPilot 2620, but it would crash every now and then (not often), didn't scroll smoothly and could take a long time with searches. But that was more like a 5 year old unit, so maybe that's why? Read way back in the StreetPilot forum and you'll see we still had gripes with Garmin back then too.

We have really beat all this to death. Personally I think you're flattering yourself if you believe Garmin reads this. Or maybe they read, but they certainly don't respond. In the end, "it is what it is". Buy something else if you don't like the Nuvi. Otherwise you must accept the compromises (I have, reluctantly). They are building mass market products and we aren't much more than a fly on the wall I'm afraid.

Garmin pulling out of the road navigation sector? Seems to me I just read that they have the commanding market share. I'm sure they feel they're on the right track.

Sure, send them an e-mail. They will cheerfully answer with "I'll be happy to assist you..."

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