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 [TOPIC] Garmin ecoRoute update for nüvis - testing

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grandknight Posted - 07 janv. 2009 : 15:09:17

Updated 20090120 - EcoRoute update available on the nüvi 7x5, >> first comments << on page 2, Some screen shots by SergZak

ecoRoute™ from Garmin® Helps Drivers Save Gas and Money Through Fuel-Efficient Paths, Smarter Driving Habits

LAS VEGAS, Nev./January 7, 2009/Business Wire — Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN), the global leader in satellite navigation, today introduced ecoRoute, a free software update that helps drivers conserve money and fuel, easing growing pressures on personal budgets and the environment. ecoRoute, which suggests fuel-efficient navigation, was announced in conjunction with the 2009 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, and will be on display at the Garmin booth (South Hall 4, #35832).

“Many of the biggest challenges currently facing people around the world involve the economy and the environment,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin’s vice president of worldwide sales. “Using ecoRoute on your Garmin nüvi® helps you be a smarter driver at a time when everyone is trying to make their paychecks and their gas tanks go the extra mile. As the global leader in satellite navigation, we embrace the opportunity to be the leader in fuel-efficient, eco-friendly navigation.”

Garmin just announced a software update for nuvi's as part of the releases at the Consumers Electronics Show in Los Vegas. At this time the only info available is a press release The web pag the press release referrs to is not responing at this time.
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gpspassion Posted - 05 janv. 2010 : 23:13:28
Here comes the HD version : Garmin® ecoRoute™ hd via OBD II connector !
gpspassion Posted - 05 févr. 2009 : 23:15:44
Yes, the point of the "Challenge" beats me too! The most useful/enlightening feature so far has been the cost estimate of a trip as seen in the main dashboard screen.
vincentmckenzie Posted - 05 févr. 2009 : 23:11:57
Well here's my 2 cents worth about ecoRoute. I'm using a 255WT with 2009 City Navigator maps, latest updates.

I travel between North East England and East Scotland relatively frequently. It's a journey of around 220 miles and usually takes around 4 hours.

When viewing the "Less Fuel" route for this same journey it chooses the most bizarre route I've ever seen. It practically hugs the coast (and all of its zig-zagging) and goes through lots of little villages on very minor roads. It added over 2 hours to the estimated journey time (a 50% increase), and 60 miles to the distance (35% or so increase). Given the nature of the roads it chose (very minor twisting turning type roads) I would imagine the actual journey time would be much greater than the estimate.

So given that in general (I know it depends on things):

* Increased engine running time (journey time) increases fuel use.
* Increased distance increases fuel use.
* Slowing down and speeding up frequently (twisting turning very minor roads with limited visibility) increases fuel use.

...and my "ecoRoute" suffered from all three of the above, how can this possibly be an economical route? I don't see any advantage in the route it chose.

Surely the normal fastest route - straight down one of the UK's biggest motorways, where you rarely have to slow down / speed up, and can travel at any speed you like (i.e. your car's most economical speed in it's most economical gear, all of the time), over a much shorter distance, would be a more economical route.

Then there's the economical driving game. As best as I can tell the score just increases the closer to a steady 50 (ish) MPH you maintained. Slowing down (gradually, or suddenly) from 50 made it reduce its score. Travelling faster than 50 made it reduce it's score. Driving style seemed to make no difference whatsoever. If I accelerated gently to 50MPH it arrived at about 95 within a minute or so. If I floored it and got to 50 as fast as I could, it seemed to get to 95 faster. If I slammed on the breaks or slowed down gradually it dropped to 0 by the time I'd stopped either way. Did I miss something here? Or is it just a measure of how close to 50MPH you're travelling? My speedometer tells me that!
jp10558 Posted - 03 févr. 2009 : 00:07:47
Hmm, unnecessary for me, I already have a scangauge.
bluzark Posted - 27 janv. 2009 : 18:03:21
just for the record..
it also creates a new folder Reports in your nuvi's root.
one csv (mileage.csv) file containing the following fields, Date (MM-DD-YYYY),Start Time,Origin Longitude,Origin Latitude,Destination Longitude,Destination Latitude,Origin,Destination,Distance (km), Time (min), Fuel Economy (l/100km), Fuel Cost (EUR), Carbon Footprint (kg).
and a file called scores.bin.
gpspassion Posted - 27 janv. 2009 : 03:03:46
Dind yourself steppin' on the gas do you? Will be taking a longer trip on Wednesday so I'll give a good try out!
bluzark Posted - 26 janv. 2009 : 17:59:47
well it seems like i am not a very ecological drive.
gpspassion Posted - 25 janv. 2009 : 12:28:04
Most likely not...
jrackley Posted - 25 janv. 2009 : 03:29:04
Any idea if Garmin will offer this "upgrade" for the Nuvi 880?
north dakota weatherman Posted - 23 janv. 2009 : 19:40:00
I downloaded ECOROUTE last night, and with what little time I have spent with it I have noticed a couple things.
1) It DID give me a slightly different route on the way home than it did before, but it was the same route my old Tomtom 720 would always pick when set at "shortest route". The "shortest route" on my garmin 255w is 4 blocks different than "less fuel". The less fuel route was the same as the "fastest" route on a Magellan 4000. I realize that sounds weird, but thats what it was.
2)I really like the fuel calculations. I don't know how accurate it is, but it's nice to see what it costs to drive somewhere. I did find myself looking at the unit more when the driving challenge was turned on. I'm not sure that's a good idea for me as I live in North Dakota and with the really lousy winter we're having all the snow is making the streets a lot narrower and you really need to pay attention.
Bottom line, from the little I have used it, I applaud Garmin for making this available on a unit that was already purchased.
FourOhFour Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 03:36:03
I'm not sure ecoRoute is quite ready...

(I wish.)
caryrae Posted - 21 janv. 2009 : 21:15:00
Pretty neat how it will tell you about how much your gas will cost for your trip.

I tried a route with fasted time and it says
Distance:318.4 mi
Time: 4 hrs 52 mins
Feul Cost: $30.76

with less fuel selected it says
Distance: 317.7
Time: 4 hrs 58 mins
Fuel Cost: $30.65

But when I choose Shortest distance it says
Distance: 311.8
Time: 5 hrs 12 mins
Fuel cost: $29.82
NanaimoRick Posted - 21 janv. 2009 : 18:22:04
Originally posted by Dewi

[quote]Hmm, in concept -- if not also in elements of design -- it seems very much a copy of Ford's SmartGauge on their hybrids.

That's possible as, if I recall correctly, Garmin was supplying a "Ford" model GPS to them at one time a year or 2 ago. Could be an ongoing relationship.
grandknight Posted - 21 janv. 2009 : 17:33:54
This looks really interesting. I hope Garmin chooses to include this in a future firmware update for the Nuvi 7x0 series. One other thought, this is a really good application for a Bluetooth interface to your vehicle's electronics. Via Bluetooth the car could send dynamic updates of fuel economy and tank fill-ups to the Nuvi. Maybe some day :-)
Dewi Posted - 21 janv. 2009 : 15:12:17
Edit: Note the new button/leaf icon with the 0 (zero) inside in the shot below...this is enabled when you're on a Driving Challenge. The number will change from 0-100 (100 being best) depending on your Driving Challenge score. The leaf has three color levels (red, yellow & green) which also indicates how economically you're driving.
Hmm, in concept -- if not also in elements of design -- it seems very much a copy of Ford's SmartGauge on their hybrids.

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