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 [TOPIC] Garmin "nüMaps Lifetime" Subscription

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gpspassion Posted - 03 oct. 2008 : 01:37:37

nüMaps Lifetime page : >> link <<

Note : if you buy a nüMaps card in a store you need to go here to activate your subscriptipon.
Updated 20110215 : CityNavigator 2011.40 Maps now available for North America
Updated 20100421 : CityNavigator 2011.10 Maps now available for both North America and Europe
Updated 20091119 : CityNavigator 2010.30 Maps now available for North America, see [TOPIC] Garmin CN NA NT 2010.30 Maps - 11/09 for details
Updated 20091021 : CityNavigator NT2010.20 maps now available in Europe.
Updated 20090730 : New CityNavigator NT2010.20 maps available under the Lifetime program see this topic for details.
Updated 20090408 : New CityNavigator NT2010 maps available under the Lifetime program see this topic for details.
Updated 20090121 : As was announced at CES, Garmin launched the "nuMaps Lifetime" program today with maps named 2009.1 (Navteq Q3/2008) available for download, either via this program or via the nuMaps Guarantee program for those who qualify.
Updated 20090107 : Now "official" at least for North America. Beginning Jan. 21st, lifetime (of the single device) quarterly map updates will offered at $120. (posted by gatorguy on page 5) full details in Garmin's Press Release.

It's likely new maps will be available for download for everyone starting on Jan 21st, including under the "nümaps Guarantee". Wonder what they will call them, NT2010 ? NT2009.1 would be preferable...

According to the press release, the web site to purchase the lifetime update service is which their web team has yet to release to the public. It looks like the marketing guys got an early start today (posted by grandknight on page 5)
Updated 20081018 : Spoke to Garmin France yesterday and it turns out it has been delayed until early 2009. Remember you read it here first like the original news about "nüMaps Lifetime" ;-) No real impact in the US as there are no new maps available, but in Europe those who can't wait will have to pay €80 for a single map update to get CN NT 2009 Europe released on October 15th.
Posted 20081003 : After announcing the nüMaps Guarantee last month, Garmin are completing their map offering with the "Lifetime Maps" program announced at the Mondial 2008 car show in Paris today. It is due to launch on October 15th and for $119 (€119 in Europe), subscribers will be able to download quarterly updates for their GPS system as long as they own it.

Compared to other map update programs on the market it falls in between Navigons's $79/3 years Freshmaps and TomTom's €68/1 year Map Update Service (unavailable in the US at this time). While it appears like a good way to stay up to date at a reasonable price, some users might balk at the asking price in a GPS market with free-falling prices.

I was able to ask Garmin some specific questions :

Q1 : what about x7x systems with NA and Euro maps ?
A. The user will have to choose which continent he wants to subscribe to, worldwide subscriptions not possible.

Q2 : what about GPS systems with regional coverat ?
The program is continental only, Europe or US, but they provide a tool to cut the region of your choice and fit it on the memory of your GPS, with the rest available to be loaded on an external memory card.

Q3 : transferable to a new GPS ?
A : no, although there is *some* flexibility as the service can be transfered once, in the case of defective unit for instance

Q4 : what happens if a GPS gets stolen ?
A : service not normally transferable

Q5 : compatible systems ?
A : All Garmin units starting with the SP C5x0, I think they mentioned they had to be compatible with the NT map format launched in 2006.

Questions, comments ?
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ELEGEND_YVR Posted - 27 avr. 2013 : 08:32:06
^ and where's the short version or a version not requiring a notary to paraphrase?
sussamb Posted - 25 avr. 2013 : 07:34:20
Well this is what they say, only limitation seems to be you can't transfer it to another product:

If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately or bundled together with certain GPS models), you will receive map updates when and as such updates are made available on Garmin’s website during the useful life of 1 compatible Garmin product or as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier, whichever is shorter. A product’s “useful life” means the period during which the product (a) has sufficient memory capacity and other required technical capabilities to utilize current map data and (b) is capable of operating as intended without major repairs. A product will be deemed to be out of service and its useful life to be ended if no updates have been downloaded for such product for a period of 24 months or more. Unless otherwise stated, the updates you receive under the subscription will be updates to the same geographic area included with your Garmin product when originally purchased. Third party content providers may change. In some instances, your Garmin product might not have sufficient memory remaining for you to load an update to the map data, in which case you will need to either (a) select reduced map data coverage for your updates, or (b) purchase separately a microSD™/SD™ card (if and as applicable to your Garmin product) and load all or a portion of the map data coverage for your updates to the card and insert the card into the microSD/SD card slot contained in your Garmin product. If neither of the measures in (a) or (b) can be used to address your product’s lack of sufficient remaining memory, then Garmin may conclude that the “useful life” of your product has expired. Garmin may terminate your nüMaps Lifetime subscription at any time if you violate any of the terms of this agreement or your subscription. Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription may not be transferred to another Garmin product
NanaimoRick Posted - 25 avr. 2013 : 06:29:22
I'm wondering if Garmin has changed their policy on this or whether I got some bad information from them today. I'm planning on giving my Nuvi2460lmt to my son when my 3597LMTHD arrives in the next week or so. I e-mailed Garmin today asking if I could deregister the 2460 and let my son register it in his own name and if he did that would the Lifetime Map still be valid on the device.

This is the reply I just received from Garmin:

Thank you for contacting Garmin International.

I'd be happy to assist you with this.

Yes, if you remove the registration from your account, it can then be registered to your son. The map updates are tied to the device, so no matter if you register it or him, it will get the free updates.

Please advise if we can assist you further.

With Best Regards,
danham Posted - 29 sept. 2012 : 20:09:25
At the very least it fixes the "hand-me-down" problem when you have adult children living away from the nest [g].

ATC7 Posted - 29 sept. 2012 : 19:44:11
Yeah, I still think on the whole this is a good thing, or at least a step in the right direction. From a seller's perspective it's great, giving a GPS with lifetime maps definitely makes selling a unit much easier. It's not nearly as good from a buyer's perspective, not knowing if or when lifetime map updates will cease.
tampa8 Posted - 29 sept. 2012 : 00:37:20
Not that I don't see your point, but the fact Garmin allows a new owner to continue free map updates, and has an avenue for them to do it is more than many companies do.
ATC7 Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 23:44:18
That's the issue I have with how Garmin is currently handling this. Essentially, under the current practice the new owner will forever be held hostage to the original owner as fas as map updates are concerned. Even if the original owner mistakenly deletes/de-registers the device, the new owner is SOL. Garmin needs to address this, it can't be that difficult unless Garmin is wilfully doing this which would be a shame.
alandb Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 23:01:47
Thanks for the clarification ATC7. This policy change has been discussed in a couple of other forums as making the purchase of a used Lifetime Map device a lot more attractive. But if changing the registration of the device to a new owner cancels the lifetime subscription, it puts the uncertainty back. I think we will still need to assume that used nuvi's bought on eBay or elsewhere will not have lifetime map updates included.
ATC7 Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 22:27:02
Ah, I knew I missed one (important) detail in my post : )

Yes, you do need to keep the device registered on your account. According to my correspondence with Garmin, they confirmed that if I delete the device from my account it will lose the Lifetime Maps add-on.

To me it seems as though this can be fixed internally in their system, kinda like an Apple product with AppleCare; AppleCare remains with the device, not the owner so whoever takes on the device AppleCare will follow. Not sure if Garmin is doing this purposely or it's a limitation in their system. I wouldn't discount the former, after all they'd sell more maps that way, but that's just the cynic in me talking.
alandb Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 20:23:40
Garmin recently changed the policy on Lifetime map updates to allow anonymous map update for a device with a lifetime map subscription. In other words, you no longer need to log in to a account to update the map. But your post raises an interesting question. If a nuvi with a lifetime map subscription is de-registered, then registered to a new owner, does it cancel the subscription? Or will the new owner still be able to do an anonymous map update?
ATC7 Posted - 27 sept. 2012 : 19:58:41
It's been a while since I've been here, but sorry to bump an old(er) thread although it's probably better to post here than to start a new one.

I recently got a nuvi 2455LMT from work (10 year service award - cheap bastards lol) and I decided to keep it to replace my aging nuvi 760. I really wanted lane assist and junction view, and also a snappier GPS as the 760 was starting to show its age.

Anyhow, I decided to give away my 760 to a friend who needs a basic GPS to get around and she can't afford one. Only problem is I had purchased a nuMaps Lifetime for it that I wanted the new owner to take advantage of. Long story short, Garmin can't transfer ownership of the GPS while retaining its lifetime maps feature so I was thinking of just giving my friend access to my Garmin account so she can do updates.

Well today I got a follow up email from Garmin support informing me that I wouldn't need to give out access to my Garmin account and they gave me instructions on how to do device map updates without logging into the Garmin account.

You just have to go to and connect the device and select Map Update. It works like a charm and no need to log in.

I'm sure many here know this already but I just wanted to pass this along as I had a surprisingly tough time finding any reliable info about it. It might come in handy for anyone wanting to give away their GPS or sell it, and where they have Lifetime maps. It certainly adds value to the old GPS.
andens01 Posted - 10 mai 2012 : 08:16:33
After had re-booting a couple of times the download wnet well on my 3790T, but to my 760T 2013.10 doesn't seem to exist??!!
Fred Aldridge Posted - 10 mai 2012 : 07:11:53
I downloaded 2013.10 North America with no problems..It took about 2 hours...
danham Posted - 09 mai 2012 : 23:49:09
For those whose update appears to be "stuck," make sure it really is no longer moving data. Mine looked stuck for about 10 minutes but was in fact transferring to my zumo the JCV file that goes with the map.

smiley1081 Posted - 09 mai 2012 : 20:05:37
Downloaded on my A10 here in Italy, and on my father's 1350 in California.
daktari Posted - 09 mai 2012 : 13:13:00
Originally posted by andens01

Have tried to update my units with 2013.10, it seems to be downloading, then it get's stuck. Anyone who had better luck?

As usual its painfully slow, but I successfully downloaded the 2013.10 European maps yesterday.
sussamb Posted - 09 mai 2012 : 08:56:50
What method are you using? There are numerous posts explaining problems with Garmin's Lifetime map updater, if you're using that try logging onto myGarmin and selecting Option 2 for updating your maps.

Also check that your firewall or parental controls aren't affecting the download, and that your GPS is plugged directly into a USB port and not through a USB hub.
andens01 Posted - 09 mai 2012 : 07:48:46
Have tried to update my units with 2013.10, it seems to be downloading, then it get's stuck. Anyone who had better luck?
gpspassion Posted - 04 mai 2012 : 15:29:42
2013.10 maps are on their way ->
gpspassion Posted - 16 févr. 2011 : 21:57:04
CN NT North America 2011.40 now available ->
NanaimoRick Posted - 20 déc. 2010 : 21:29:18
Just received the following e-mail from Garmin concerning a problem which you may encounter if you use a non English language and City Navigator North America 2011.30:

Dear Garmin Customer,

Thank you for recently activating our City Navigator® North America NT 2011 map update. We want to thank you for choosing Garmin for all of your navigation and mapping needs. We value your business and work hard to be on the cutting edge of technological innovation while meeting the high expectations of people who use our products.

This notification is to let you know we recently discovered an issue with the North America map update that may cause you to experience difficulty selecting a state when your unit is set in a language other than English. We have corrected this download on our website.

If you wish to utilize the full range of language options provided on your Garmin unit, please sign in to your myGarmin account and download the corrected City Navigator North America NT 2011 map, for no additional fee.

If you plan to use only the English language on your unit then it is not necessary to download the corrected map.

How to re-download the map update:
1) Have your Garmin device ready to plug into your computer.

2) Go to this URL and sign in to your myGarmin account.

3) Select the "myMaps" tab at the top of the page.

4) Locate your device along with the City Navigator North America NT 2011 map associated with it.

5) Select "Download Again" to begin the process.

We apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your continued patronage. Please contact Garmin Product Support with any questions or concerns and have a happy and safe holiday season.

JGinhisSS Posted - 02 déc. 2010 : 06:41:32
Thanks! In for two.
gpspassion Posted - 02 déc. 2010 : 02:26:50
A great deal on nuMaps Lifetime North America, $59.99 only ->
NanaimoRick Posted - 28 juil. 2010 : 16:36:51
Just talked to Garmin support. There is a problem with the 2010.20 map update that affects all 37xx Nuvi models.
The result is that no map update is available for these units today.

Garmin is working on a patch, which should be available in a day or so that will allow owners of the 37xx units to download the 2011.20 map update.

Note - If you have purchased a nuMaps Lifetime subscription for a 37xx model, you will not be able to activate it until after the 2011.20 update is available for download. Attempting to activate the subscription prior to the patch being applied by Garmin will continue to result in you receiving the message that your maps are already up to date.
pratzert Posted - 28 juil. 2010 : 16:16:19

Thanks for the heads up.

I guess/hope the Europe Map update isn't too far behind.

I could use the latest Europe maps in about 6-7 weeks.


danham Posted - 28 juil. 2010 : 16:13:10
The latest update has been released by Garmin: CNNT 2011.20 for North America. I'm installing it now.

Discussion here:


gpspassion Posted - 22 avr. 2010 : 10:51:32
New maps available for those who have a lifetime subscription :
- CNNT 2011.10 North America :
- CNNT 2011.10 Europe :
LER Posted - 19 janv. 2010 : 13:22:25
I think the source files are the same, but some features (Junction View, 3d buildings, etc) only get loaded on devices that can support them.

I have an Old 2720, so just get basic stuff.

navxguy Posted - 19 janv. 2010 : 07:38:19
thanks for confirming.

Is the Lifetime map the same for all devices? ... meaning the detailed, embeded stuff like POIs, lane assist, reality view, speed limit, street flow(?), etc ... or does it vary by the device you own?
LER Posted - 19 janv. 2010 : 04:58:56
I have lifetime and 2010.30.

navxguy Posted - 19 janv. 2010 : 04:50:00
that's what i figured, but when i was on Garmin site last night looking at "detailed views" of one-time vs. lifetime maps, the one-time said 2010.30 and lifetime said 2010.20 ... assume website error

LER Posted - 18 janv. 2010 : 16:16:32
They come out at the same time.
navxguy Posted - 18 janv. 2010 : 03:56:37
So do nuMap "One-Time" and "Lifetime" come out at the same time? or does one lag the other?
BabyDoc Posted - 14 janv. 2010 : 19:02:23
The price for the LifeTime updates fluctuate on Amazon.
Fortunately, I caught the $79 price just before Xmas.
Now I see it is back at $95, still not a bad deal.

LER Posted - 12 janv. 2010 : 20:03:59
I bought the lifetime at full price when it was first available, and so far have gotten 4 new map sets for my 2720. I think I made the right decision for me. As long as they keep supporting my 2720, I see no need to buy a newer unit.
danham Posted - 12 janv. 2010 : 19:59:16
My habit has been to buy new maps roughly every other year, back when annual updates were the only game in town. And with my 760 being an older model now, I figured I'd wait until or unless a newer GPS caught my eye to buy new maps.

But planning for this trip reminded me that having "2009" maps may not be the best technique when venturing far from home. So I took the plunge at a slight discount and yes, missed out on bigger savings. Still worth it IMHO.

G-Man Posted - 12 janv. 2010 : 19:37:03
I got the Lifetime for my old 360 for $79 back at Christmas. Wish I had gotten it for my 1490T. I'm checking constantly to see if it goes back on sale again. The 1490T is up-to-date for now.
danham Posted - 12 janv. 2010 : 18:41:13
My wife and I are planning a multi-state trip southward in a few weeks, so I decided to finally bite the bullet and buy a "lifetime" update for my 760, figuring even if the GPS only "lasts" through a few more updates, I'm still ahead in the deal.

I paid $96 at Amazon and there were a few minor glitches, but it's downloading right now from myGarmin. At Amazon, after putting in my credit card info, I got an error saying "something" went wrong and they were working to fix it ASAP. I checked my online banking site and my credit card was charged, but no activation code was ever provided. Uh-oh. Amazon said to go into my order history to find the code. No record of the order. Bigger uh-oh. Luckily, prior to panicking I noticed a separate button to review "digital orders," and after jumping through a few security hoops was able to get the code.

Once I start using 2010.30 I'll jump in on the other topic if I notice any noteworthy changes.

gpspassion Posted - 19 nov. 2009 : 20:29:54
Good catch indeed, now to figure out what's new ;-) Here is the link for the new topic : [TOPIC] Garmin CN NA NT 2010.30 Maps - 11/09.
pratzert Posted - 19 nov. 2009 : 17:49:27

Thanks for the info...

As always... you are right on top of things...

NanaimoRick Posted - 19 nov. 2009 : 17:21:49
It had to be. Updated my 1490T yesterday from 2010.10 to 2010.20 and today 2010.30 is available. Just my luck!
SergZak Posted - 19 nov. 2009 : 16:58:03
nuMaps Lifetime update for North America available. Log in to your myGarmin account for more info. Version is 2010.30
gpspassion Posted - 22 oct. 2009 : 04:02:03
Good news for European Lifetime subscribers, the 2010.20 maps just became available today, details here :
parsec Posted - 10 oct. 2009 : 10:45:07
Navteq is doing their business, and seems like going well.
Garmin is focused on making 25 different gadgets, and want to sell mobilephones also. Maps ?, check later.

Lifetime subscribers will get the maps, when the release fits into hardware releases. That makes perfect production sense.

Navteq makes maps.
Garmin makes gadgets.

I wish we could buy the gadget from Garmin, and the maps from Navteq.

gemro311 Posted - 09 oct. 2009 : 19:14:28
I have received responses from both navteq and Garmin ..

from Navteq : We actually just released our 2009 Q4 North America map database last month. Our next map release will occur in early December

From Garmin .."I will be happy to help you with this. Not that we have heard. There should be one out later this month. but we are not given the exact date. Please check back with us later"

With Best Regards,

Cynthia W
Product Support Specialist
2nd Shift Automotive Team
Garmin International
bluzark Posted - 09 oct. 2009 : 10:17:47
"I assume the Euro price of a nuvi is the same in all euro Europe"

no it isn't

also currently in Germany you get a 90 EUR discount on the Lifetime purchase if you bought/buy a nüvi 13xx or 14xx in the period of 01.09.09 to 31.10.09.
bav Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 22:40:32
@gpspassion. Ambarrassing.
We all live in one world or share a continent.
Why did Garmin offer special a lifetime uptime price to France only and not in the other European countries?
I assume the Euro price of a nuvi is the same in all euro Europe, so
why a price difference in lifetime map updates?
OldGray Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 19:19:04
Originally posted by alandb

Gatorguy, would Navteq Traffic Patterns be something like TomTom's IQ? That could be worth waiting for if they incorporate the feature into existing models. It would also be worth the wait if they would have more complete coverage for lane assist.

I have reason to believe Garmin already does this. My 765T is usually correct to-the-minute with ETAs and I'm driving at practically every hour of the day at some point during the week. Even on 2+ hr long trips, it's within 1 minute on the original ETA that shows up. Same for when the roads are total chaos and accidents are everywhere. I'm not sure how much of this accuracy is due to TMC data vs. Garmin/Navteq maps.
gpspassion Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 18:58:17
That's easy, it was a special time-limited (June 1st to July 31th initially, then extended to September 15th) operation to boost sales (Garmin took the hit instead of upsetting their resellers with a price decrease of the product) you can read all about it here :

@NanaimoRick - very well put! Wanted to get an update from Garmin France today on the status of the map update at the nuvifone/1690/nulink presentation but it slipped my mind, sorry, placed a call to see if I can get an update in the next few days.
bav Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 18:52:39
the 'value' of the lifetime nuvi map updates....

Can somebody explain why garmin france asks about 20 € for a lifetime
map update whereas in other countries in europe it goes for 120 €?

best regards
SergZak Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 18:51:20
If Garmin is working to get the maps right, then all the better. I don't have any problem with delays in releasing. I'd rather have a good, working map update than something that Garmin threw out untested, just to meet a vague "deadline". Garmin's first two map updates had issues (one with JV not working and the other with limited memory nuvi's being updated with the "full US" mapset despite there being room for only the "lower 48" mapset). I think they are learning from their mistakes (as we all should).
pratzert Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 17:20:59
[OFF- TOPIC]How much do you want for the lifetime sub for Readers Digest ? ;-)[/OFF-TOPIC]
parsec Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 17:12:28
What if, the intention was to make some fast upsales, get 30% extra income to solve a cashflow problem, and then deal with delivery later.
And you can't claim fraud... they actually dont have to deliver a single update.

BTW. I have a lifetime subscribtion for Readers Digest for sale, up to 12 issues a year, for the rest of your life.
pratzert Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 15:53:32
I agree with Rick as far as the "value" of Lifetime updates.

I have received TWO updates under the lifetime program.... so I'm already ahead in terms of cost savings. AND... I have more up to date maps to boot !
NanaimoRick Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 15:47:58
If I was buying City Navigator Europe NuMaps Lifetime, I'd be disappointed today as well but as gpspassion says above, there should be an update any day now and another one by year end. That's at least 3 since the nuMaps started. Not bad if it happens that way.

However, there is no reason to be disappointed or accuse Garmin of 'pulling the wool over our eyes' when it comes to the North American version. We saw an update in April and another in July. We could possibly see another one this year but more likely January 2010. That's 3 in 9 months and if they keep to that schedule a 4th could be due in late April. Possibly 4 updates in 12 months, that sounds like 'up to 4 a year' to me.

Even if we only get 3 by next April it's still a great deal as it's 2 more than we got under the old program in a 12 months period and the price of those 3 updates under the nuMaps program is roughly half of what we would have paid for 3 annual updates before, plus you continue to receive updates as they are released at no additional costs for the life of your Nuvi.

Add to that the fact that they could be working on reducing the current "two quarter delay" (compared to Navteq) for upcoming releases and I'd say Garmin has more than lived up to their commitment in regards to the 'lifetime' program.
Topgun-MK Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 11:35:18
In Europe we have been waiting since April for an update. That's 6 months. So we will probably get 2 a year if we are luckly.
On the Garmin Numaps order form up to a few weeks ago it said "updates every 3 months" that's changed now to the "up to 4 a year"
beetle-m Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 09:13:54
Originally posted by NanaimoRick

Actually you didn't pay for quarterly updates. Garmin's wording was 'up to 4 updates per year'.
Rick. You're right but you must know so some people made decision to buy "nüMaps Lifetime subscription" after reading this Garmin's information:
nüMaps Lifetime subscription lets you download the newest map data up to 4 times per year ...
I felt it is too unrealistic but I expected 2-3 per year so now I'm disappointed user. I'm still talking about CNE version.

My the oldest Navteq Map Reports are dated: Dec 2008. Status (today): "Open". So there is still something to improve in CNE.
grease Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 01:15:01
No way Garmin would introduce a new feature on the existing models. If they ever implement Traffic Patterns then it will go to their new models.
alandb Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 00:57:08
Gatorguy, would Navteq Traffic Patterns be something like TomTom's IQ? That could be worth waiting for if they incorporate the feature into existing models. It would also be worth the wait if they would have more complete coverage for lane assist.
gatorguy Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 00:47:27
Personally I have no problem with three updates this year if that's what happens. The last map release was the end of July, so the earliest I would have expected another is the end of this month anyway. I'm just guessing that Garmin may be integrating Navteq Traffic Patterns with the map update. If so, I can wait till January if that's what it takes to get it right.
gemro311 Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 00:15:04
I have emailed Garmin and Navteq to see what the real poop is. Would like to know if Navteq has released a new update this 1/4.
parsec Posted - 08 oct. 2009 : 00:04:18
Up to 4 times a year...
Yes, so they can actually never release again, and still be within their words.
But this is not what I expected...

I have no doubt that Garmin is laughing their ass off, and that i'm the fool.
It is cute that fanboys, defend Garmin. It is the IT version of the
"Stockholm syndrome".

Im sure of one thing, next purchase will not be anything garmin.


gtreal Posted - 07 oct. 2009 : 21:14:13
Agreed - and it would be a very good idea to download just a patch/delta to be processed locally, instead of having to download a couple of GB every 3-4 months. Not only would this be easier on the end-user, but it would also save Garmin a huge amount of money in bandwidth costs.
grease Posted - 07 oct. 2009 : 21:00:58
There are so few changes in these maps that the only real difference is a version number.
gpspassion Posted - 07 oct. 2009 : 20:39:30
Yes and gemro311, like I wrote : " it seems at this point that the US will have to wait till January for the next one" so there is no confirmation. I'll try to get an update tomorrow. Besides, don't discard the "it might not be bad news" part ;-)
NanaimoRick Posted - 07 oct. 2009 : 20:37:01
Originally posted by LER

They said "Up to 4". Doesn't mean EVERY quarter.

They are within their rights to not make a release every quarter.

With the wording being "up to 4" they are still within their rights to release only 3, or even 2, per year.
NanaimoRick Posted - 07 oct. 2009 : 20:34:50
Actually you didn't pay for quarterly updates. Garmin's wording was 'up to 4 updates per year'.
LER Posted - 07 oct. 2009 : 20:32:59
They said "Up to 4". Doesn't mean EVERY quarter.

They are within their rights to not make a release every quarter.
gemro311 Posted - 07 oct. 2009 : 20:29:52
Please confirm ...lifetime subscribers to Garmin(navteq maps) in the US will have to wait until January 2010 to get the next update. Wonder what happened to the quaterly updates we paid for . The last update was in late July .
xtraseller Posted - 27 sept. 2009 : 16:11:51
Good news then. If it happens, I will brush the dust off my Nuvi 765...
gpspassion Posted - 25 sept. 2009 : 21:50:10
An update for the European based Garmin nuMaps Lifetime subscribers, spoke to Garmin France yesterday at the Navteq Navivision event and told them European users were "disappointed"...turns out the maps will be available in the next few days!

Also European will get another map update by the end of the year, but it seems at this point that the US will have to wait till January for the next one. While this may sound disappointing, it might not be bad news as I somehow gathered that they were working on reducing the current "two quarter delay" (compared to Navteq) for upcoming releases.
pratzert Posted - 28 août 2009 : 20:09:26
Thanks for that information.

Hopefully Garmin will sort it out soon.
xtraseller Posted - 28 août 2009 : 20:05:06
Yes already running the latest Navteq European release on my Navigon 4350Max unit - Garmin simply cannot be bothered to sort out mapping updates for Europe, even though we have paid £99 for NuMaps. [ed]

There is no problem with the latest Navteq release - it is Garmin at fault.
pratzert Posted - 26 août 2009 : 23:56:54
As far as the European Map update ( which I assume will be 2010.20 like the US.)take any emails or responses from Garmin concerning their release with a grain of salt.

It seems the answer you get from Garmin depands on the Rep you talk to and the story changes with each Rep. I have been reading on other forums that people have asked about the European maps and were told by Garmin " Any Day Now", which is exactly what I was told directly by Garmin.

But others have been told something else it seems.

Some user have said that "typically" and in their experience, that the European update follows the North American by a few weeks.... whatever that means.

I do hope it comes soon since I have about two more weeks to do my "free" update for my 775. Otherwise I'll be getting the Lifetime update combination for NA and Europe.

Looking at the post above this one, has NavTeq released THEIR latest European maps ?
gemro311 Posted - 26 août 2009 : 23:49:59
Garmin is releasing the Map updates approx 45 days after Navteq releases theirs. Even Navteq was surprised that it took so long
SergZak Posted - 26 août 2009 : 23:19:54
The key phrase is "up to" 4 times per year. That could mean one only update, a full four updates, or anything in between. So far, Garmin has been pretty much on schedule with the US maps but that doesn't mean that the EU map updates will follow the same schedule.

Garmin would probably like to stick to the same update schedule as the US updates but maybe they're having some issues...I wouldn't want a map update that was buggy or perhaps broken in some way just because it was time for one. Garmin had two quite buggy releases with the first two US nuMaps updates so I'm sure they are verifying that all issues are resolved before releasing to the public.
Cosmopolitan Posted - 26 août 2009 : 22:35:48
I bought NuMaps Lifetime update for North American and European maps.
Garmin promised map updates up to 4 times per year, for both of these maps. The North American map was last updated more then a month ago, but there is still no sign of the European map update.
I wonder if Garmin is forgetting its obligation? I am going there next week and it would be nice to have the latest maps. Anyone knows when the European map update will be introduced?
xtraseller Posted - 26 août 2009 : 21:15:18
No Europe 2010.20 coming, or so it seems

In another forum, a user reported Garmins emailed response as "" Then next European update should be released in the next couple of months, unfortunately I so not have a solid release date I'm

Which seals the deal for me. Already have this mapping update on my Navigon 4350 Max - and for under £20 instead of £99

So will stick with Navigon in future, and count my 2 Garmin Units with NuMaps as a wasted £198 AND the unit cost

Shame they cannot stick to their word, their offer or keep with the competition

Garmin, it's time to pull over
bav Posted - 24 août 2009 : 22:49:09
I have a question:

whenever the europe 2010.20 map would be available (already
1.5 month too late in their quarterly schedule (compared to
the existing 2010.10 April 8 update )
how can i know if it's worth to buy and update?
How can we know what new streets were added, before buying
and installing?

best regards

gpspassion Posted - 24 août 2009 : 16:51:33
No Lifetime program at TomTom, one year map update subscription, as discussed here :
cork1958 Posted - 24 août 2009 : 12:56:45
Originally posted by gatorguy

I would think TomTom might be feeling some pressure now to offer a map subscription service to North America. On the surface this looks like a great deal. But how many of us keep our GPS for more than two years anymore? Of course that might be what Garmin (and Navteq?) might be counting on.

Don't TomTom's already come with lifetime maps? At least on some/most models?

Personally, I think their pricing is through the roof and I'm almost willing to bet I don't even live long enough to get my money's worth out of a lifetime subscription!
GadgetGuy2008 Posted - 30 juil. 2009 : 21:42:02
Originally posted by toddcan

FYI: I just had my nuvi 680 stolen from my car. I had lifetime maps purchased. Garmin will only give me 50% off another lifetime upgrade when I buy my replacement Garmin. They need a police report.

Could you clarify your statement. Is Garmin offering to give you 50% off based solely on your word? Or will Garmin only give you 50% off if you provide a police report?

I'm just curious because someone else said Garmin would provide the maps for free if you provide a police report.
danham Posted - 30 juil. 2009 : 18:51:21
Pawn shops are getting smart about refusing to buy GPSes that have PIN locks activated - I got two of mine back after a housebreak last summer.

pratzert Posted - 30 juil. 2009 : 18:38:50

Why don't you go ahead and get a Police report ?

If you've registered that unit with a MYGARMIN account the S/N will be tracable and "IF" it's ever recovered they can get it back to you.

toddcan Posted - 30 juil. 2009 : 18:22:13
FYI: I just had my nuvi 680 stolen from my car. I had lifetime maps purchased. Garmin will only give me 50% off another lifetime upgrade when I buy my replacement Garmin. They need a police report. I suppose this is to stop people from "losing" their old garmin and buying a new one and transferring over the upgrades.
pratzert Posted - 30 juil. 2009 : 17:02:40
What about the European Maps ?
gpspassion Posted - 30 juil. 2009 : 17:01:52
Yes, new dedicated topic here ->
maplant1 Posted - 30 juil. 2009 : 16:54:34
Hi, The map is ready for North America
ryguyMN Posted - 21 juil. 2009 : 05:21:50
With the way the last couple updates have gone in terms of the number of issues users had, I wouldn't be surprised if Garmin was doing some more testing this time around. :)
Falcon9 Posted - 11 juil. 2009 : 11:37:06
Ok, the 205 is a completely different animal from 200. I went into the service menu. The internal memory capaicty on the 200 is 1GB, 205 is 2GB>
NanaimoRick Posted - 11 juil. 2009 : 01:36:10
The 205 comes with preloaded street maps for lower 48 states, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. You will not be able to put Canada on it. As Sergzak says you may not even be able to install all of lower 48 states, Hawaii and Puerto Rico from 2010.
gpspassion Posted - 11 juil. 2009 : 01:34:09
No you'd need to get an extra microSD card, they're dirt cheap now too ;-)
Falcon9 Posted - 11 juil. 2009 : 01:27:08
The normal update only gives you what you already have, but it specifically said that the lifetime subscription will give you the ability to have have full coverage on the Nuvi 200 series including Canada.

So, I guess I can't have it all at once?

I just bought a Nuvi 205 and I want to update to 2010. Would I not be able to fit the entire thing on it? I haven't opened the box, so I might just tkae it back.
gemro311 Posted - 10 juil. 2009 : 20:07:14
Rceived email from Garmin Tech on the next release. It reads as follows:
Thank you for contacting Garmin International my name is Andrew and I would be able to help you with this. I believe it's suppose to be out in August but there has been no date released yet. Best thing you can do is check your email once a week for the notice to be sent out for when it is available.

With Best Regards,
Andrew H
Product Support Specialist
Automotive Team
Garmin International

SergZak Posted - 09 juil. 2009 : 16:12:49
I have not verified with map version 2010.10 that you cannot get the newest lower 48 states mapset onto the unit. However, when I had the nuvi 200 (I no longer own it) which I believe came pre-installed with v2008, I updated to v2009 which just barely fit...I had to delete all unused voice files, text files, help files, etc to get the needed space. After the update, the 200 had about 12 MB free space on it.

I believe that 2010's lower 48 will not fit at all in a nuvi 200 (even with deleting all the files I mentioned above) and a smaller/partial region will need to be installed.
NanaimoRick Posted - 09 juil. 2009 : 15:47:03
Just to be clear you can update the maps but if you currently have the full 48 states you won't be able to update so you have that same coverage PLUS Canada. It appears from SergZak's post that you can't even update the full 48 with a newer full 48.
SergZak Posted - 09 juil. 2009 : 10:59:03
@ Falcon9

The map updates *will* fit in a low-memory nuvi such as the nuvi 200 which originally came pre-installed with the "Lower 48 States" region. The update will be limited at the time of install to a smaller region of the US/N. America which Garmin will let you select to install. The smaller regions include CAN only, US East & US West amongst others. The entire mapset (even the default "Lower 48 States") will not fit.
Falcon9 Posted - 09 juil. 2009 : 10:36:54
So, I read that the purchase of lifetime will add Canada coverage to Nuvi 200, however, the memory is filled to the brim with the US only map.

Do I have this understood right and if so would it actually fit into the Nuvi 200?
gpspassion Posted - 30 juin 2009 : 17:24:51
Latest quarterly update, NT2010, dates from April 8th, so add three months to that and you get July 8th !

@NuviNut - unless you break it, it should be good to go for still many a few years ;-)
grease Posted - 30 juin 2009 : 14:59:34
when is next map update due?
NuviNut Posted - 30 juin 2009 : 03:47:50
I still use and love my 660 every day. I recently did the "lifetime" traffic update... but before I update the maps- does anyone have a "life expectancy" on the 660? Mine is already like 3 years old and going strong. I use and love the Mp3 player, pictures (on occasion when I need to show off my baby girl), bluetooth, etc. I suspect getting the "lifetime" maps would be foolish for an aging unit... but I just wonder if the users out there have experienced and average lifetime for a 660.


wclark Posted - 24 juin 2009 : 14:59:27
In my opinion this is just a marketing game. I thought it was a good idea and deal until I read the fine print.

The label of "lifetime" misleading. It is completely in Garmins favor, not the consumer. It is tied to the specific unit and if anything happens, including Garmin waving a wand and declaring a unit no longer supported, your "lifetime" purchase just died.

And who cares if you can update 4 times a year when the updated information (maps anyway) is still over a year old by the time we see it?
gpspassion Posted - 25 avr. 2009 : 20:03:56
I'll add the link to the first message of this topic ;-)
dcnuvi Posted - 25 avr. 2009 : 19:59:12
Now that the sun is up and my electron microscope is powered up I can actually see some fine print on the back of the gift card that references activate newmaps. At 1000x magnification it is actually legible, and I don't even need glasses.

Canada has a bilingual card and this compresses the print to silly small size.
bluzark Posted - 25 avr. 2009 : 10:18:01
you should have read the actual card
"rtfm" as they say
dcnuvi Posted - 25 avr. 2009 : 04:56:57
That's it! It took forever to find the 'activate numaps' page. About to take the plunge.
ATC7 Posted - 25 avr. 2009 : 04:49:08
Did your card come in a sealed clear plastic packaging? Also, the key on the back of the card should have been covered up and you had to scratch it to reveal it; was that the case with yours?

Also make sure to go to where it will have boxes to enter your MyGarmin username, password and key (from the back of the card).

If all the above checks out then the only thing that can be done is to call support and talk to them, because the process is dead simple and shouldn't need any special steps to activate.
dcnuvi Posted - 25 avr. 2009 : 04:21:38
This is my frustrated request.

I have in my hand a Garmin nuMaps Lifetime card with the product key on the back. I wish to now get my maps from Garmin. I have tried repeatadly to unlock this maps update and all I seem to acheive is the message in red 'Invalid product key'.

I follow the MY Garmin the unlock maps, have my Nuvi connected and all info is properly displayed. I just can't get by the 'invalid product key' after clicking the unlock map button.

I could use a pointer in what I'm missing or needing to do different. The Garmin site,FAQ', search support area etc has been no help, I just search in circles.
ATC7 Posted - 24 avr. 2009 : 08:24:57
The 760 is officially supported for the nuMaps Lifetime (from the Garmin site):

I can confirm that too on my 760. My only concern is that the 2010.10 NT maps are 1.92GB in size and, going forward, if they keep increasing in size (considering that the 760 only has 2GB of internal memory) then there will come a point in time where one of two things will happen; either we'll be forced to put the maps on SD cards (no problem I guess, although personally I prefer the maps to be internal), or Garmin can pull the plug on Lifetime support for the 760 and like units, citing the fine print "....until your product’s useful life expires or Garmin no longer receives map Data from NAVTEQ, whichever is shorter".
LandNav Posted - 24 avr. 2009 : 02:41:15
Originally posted by dcnuvi

I am interested in buying lifetime maps for my Nuvi 760 (3.1) and am getting dizzy trying to find out if I am forced to update to 4.6 when I get the new maps?

Perhaps I have too many irons in the fire with my iPhone, my 2 laptops, and other boy toys. With all of the above, I find myself not on this site as often as I used to be. I only found this thread because of my interest in the Lifetime maps offer.

So, I have a 760 and I'm running it with 4.6 and have been for probably shortly after 4.6 came out. What's the bitch about 4.6? I have absolutely no problems with it. I had it over in Greece a few weeks ago with the European SD card and everything worked great there. When I returned to Seattle, it relocated itself automatically within maybe a minute and was ready to "perk" here.

I did discover this morning that 760 is persona non grata with Garmin and is being cleared out on discount marketeers for as low as $139 for what they claim is a brand new unit! Maybe I should buy a spare at these prices.
gpspassion Posted - 08 avr. 2009 : 19:31:34
Updated 20090408 : New CityNavigator NT2010 maps available under the Lifetime program see this topic for details
jotne Posted - 11 févr. 2009 : 07:03:16
Information taken from the gmaptz.img (same file for EU and US)

File:           gmaptz.img, length 595968
Header:         11.12.2008 14:28:57, DSKIMG, xor 00h
Mapset:         Time Zone Map (3.00)

Map              length s-f  CP    prio  PID   FID  name
 TIMEZONE MPC    587027  3  1252    0
dcnuvi Posted - 11 févr. 2009 : 02:48:08
Thanks SergZak, I understand what to do now, and why we do it. A very well done response. Sorry for taking a few days to reply, life has been hectic.
danham Posted - 08 févr. 2009 : 23:11:00
(slapping forehead) Duh! I should have a) remembered you did the guide and b) figured out time zone.

Oh well, oh-for-two.

SergZak Posted - 08 févr. 2009 : 23:07:01
See the map naming guide I created here:

gmaptz.img is the Time Zone map for the newer nuvis that support it.
danham Posted - 08 févr. 2009 : 22:47:28
bmap = basemap, so stands to reason it would be unchanged.

maptz - I wonder if this is a compressed archive such as the tz files used in Unix systems?

BAVC10 Posted - 08 févr. 2009 : 22:43:22
The European Download also shows 2009.11

Files are (old) and new size
gmap3dimg.img (260.660) 284,336
gmapprom.img (1,604,160) 1,630,976
gmapbmap.img 92,708 unchanged
gmaptz.img (578) 582

Does anyone know what the 4 files do? (3dimg and prom.img seem obvious but I'm not sure what the other two files do)
Curtis22 Posted - 08 févr. 2009 : 16:21:43
$5 off coupon code from for is 567715. It worked fine for me. It paid for the $4.99 shipping.
SergZak Posted - 07 févr. 2009 : 21:52:43
Yes, you can bypass the forced firmware update by Garmin on either the registration/map installation process but deleting the GUPDATE.GCD trick does not work in this case. I posted this procedure in other forums but could not find it by searching this forum (maybe I didn't post it here):

Before running the unit registration or map installation program, perform the following:

Right-click on the file named GarminDevice.xml on the nuvi drive located in x:/Garmin and select "Open With" and choose Notepad. Look for the following line approx 6 lines down from the top:

< SoftwareVersion >320< /SoftwareVersion >

The current software version on the unit is listed here. Mine says 320 but yours will be likely be something else. Change the 320 (or whatever other version number it is) to 460 (460 is the current 7x0 series version) or even a later value like 500. As long as the value is equal to or greater than the current Garmin version available for download, no update will occur. Make no other changes.

*Note that I had to add spaces in the example line above so the forum would not interpret the line as valid html code. Don't add the spaces that I added above.

After doing so, save the file (file/save). Don't unplug or power off the unit...keep it connected to the PC. Run the registration or map update process again which should now let you register or update the maps on the unit without updating the firmware.

Don't worry if you somehow mess up on the file editing as this file is regenerated at every nuvi power cycle. If you mess up, simply delete GarminDevice.xml disconnect from USB and reboot the nuvi. It will then be regenerated and you can try the process again.

From here on afterwards, you will have to delete GUPDATE.GCD from the nuvi every time after running WebUpdater since each time you do, it will find the newest update and reinstall GUPDATE.GCD (which updates the firmware) again since you will still have an older version on the unit.

Editing the GarminDevice.xml file simply fools WebUpdater and/or the registration/map update process into thinking that the most current software verison is already installed on the unit. After the nuvi is power cycled & GarminDevice.xml is regenerated, the software version listed in the file will again list the older version that is currently on the unit.
dcnuvi Posted - 07 févr. 2009 : 20:42:05
I am interested in buying lifetime maps for my Nuvi 760 (3.1) and am getting dizzy trying to find out if I am forced to update to 4.6 when I get the new maps, or am I able to avoid this with the delete GUPDATE file trick. Does the lifetime numaps process make it unavoidable in updating to 4.6?
LER Posted - 07 févr. 2009 : 17:33:53
I was able to get mine, and am happy with the current map. What issue(s) are you having?
Frank B Posted - 07 févr. 2009 : 17:06:11
Anyone know if Garmin finally/actually got the bugs out of the lifetime map updates, or are we still the Beta testers?
LER Posted - 31 janv. 2009 : 06:29:28
I was actually able to get the Lifetime to load on my 2720, now have 2009.11 maps on both my Mac and the GPSr.

gpspassion Posted - 27 janv. 2009 : 20:13:26
@bgoo - let's keep this topic for actual usage of nuMaps Lifetime, please start a new topic in the "hot deals...cold deals" section for links to vendors.
pratzert Posted - 27 janv. 2009 : 19:39:31

That's the cheapest I've found so far too. But I've never done any business with them and don't know much about them or their reputation.

bgoo Posted - 27 janv. 2009 : 03:14:59
Based on Pratzert's last post I am going to assume that the email response which I received from Garmin Product Support Specialist Amy Lu was totally incorrect as I suspected. Now I too amy searching for the best price for the Lifetime maps. So far the best delivered price I have found is at where it is $99.99 due to no charge for tax or ground shipping. If anyone has found anything cheaper please post. Thanks.
pratzert Posted - 26 janv. 2009 : 17:22:34
I sent an email off to Garmin asking why my 3 units were not listed as eligible for the NuMaps. ( I have a 2730, 7500 & 76CSx ). All these units use the "NT" version and all have the latest & greatest version installed and registerred on them.

Here is the response I got back this morning:

QUOTE: The nuMaps Lifetime Update is indeed compatible with the StreetPilot 2730 and StreetPilot 7500. The Lifetime Update is also compatible with the GPSMap 76CSx, provided the City Navigator North America NT mapping being used on the 76CSx is a full version unlocked for that unit. Having examined your registrations, this is the case with your GPSMap 76CSx.

In summary, yes, all of your currently registered units are compatible with the nuMaps Lifetime Update.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. :UNQUOTE

So it seems like I CAN get the lifetime maps for my units. Now all I have to do is keep searching for the cheapest price.


pratzert Posted - 26 janv. 2009 : 14:55:54
Oh, OK..... I thought when he said "card", I pictured an actual Data card with the maps on it which was sent out on a quarterly basis rather than a download.

I've seen the gift cards..... they will have the download link and a "Key" to allow the downloads.
LER Posted - 26 janv. 2009 : 04:48:05
The cards are the way to give the gift, or purchase not tied to the S/N at time of purchase.
@bgoo: Call garmin and ask about your gps and Lifetime. They have a secondary list that is not on the web, which includes my 2720, and probably your 7200.
pratzert Posted - 26 janv. 2009 : 04:28:44

I'd love to learn more about Lifetime "Cards".

Can you point us in the right direction ?

bgoo Posted - 26 janv. 2009 : 04:25:09
I was finally able to get to a purchase point for the nuMaps Lifetime for my SP 7200. I had to load an activex control onto my computer so that I could enter my unit's serial number. Still, when I try to go thru MyGarmin account I only get offered the Onetime map. I am apprehensive about going ahead with the purchase outside of MyGarmin when the 7200 is still not listed on the nuMaps Lifetime list of compatible products. Plus, I have found that you can purchase a Lifetime "card" from authorized second party vendors for up to 20% less than direct from Garmin. The "cards" are not in stock from the vendors yet, but should be soon. I am going to wait for a couple of weeks to let the whole situation smooth out. Thanks for the informative posts which helped me out.
jsolo213 Posted - 25 janv. 2009 : 05:16:35
Anyone with the 7x0 series update to these maps with the older 3.1 or 3.2 firmwares successfully? Or is the new 4.6 or 4.7 firmware an ABSOLUTE requirement for the updated maps?
pratzert Posted - 25 janv. 2009 : 04:06:51
Originally posted by bgoo

I have been reading these posts with great interest as my StreetPilot 7200 is also not included on the Garmin website compatibility list for the Lifetime maps. No matter what method I have tried on the website (top menu, myGarmin, etc.) to get to the purchase point for Lifetime for my unit I am not able to do so. I can however get to the purchase point for "Onetime" City Nav North America 2009.1 (I already have City Nav North America 2009 on the unit). I emailed Garmin support and here is the response that I received:

"I will be happy to help you with this. The 7200 is not compatible with the lifetime maps due to hardware restrictions.
With Best Regards, Amy Lu, Product Support Specialist"

To me this sounds ridiculous. What "hardware restrictions" would not allow a Lifetime download of 2009.1 but go ahead and allow the same download for a Onetime download? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Now that is very odd.... I have a 7500 and it's is identical to the 7200 other than the dead reckoning feature. But when I went into the Garmin Map upgrades, it did in fact offer me "Lifetime" maps.

Garmin seems to be falling apart more each passing day.
EricTheRed Posted - 25 janv. 2009 : 03:35:56
It sounds like this is a good deal. Are the Nuvi 370 and 270 supported? What is the expected life of the battery in these two units? If battery life is only, say, 3 years; well not such a good deal.
daveo Posted - 25 janv. 2009 : 02:13:12
I upgraded the Maps on my 775T last night and took it to the store today. I was surprised by the large number of minor streets that now have speed limits. Definitely a plus. I tried a route we often do, and did not see more lane assists. That part is disappointing considering it is a approx 500 mile trip with several major cities including DC outer belt. That is an area I hope they will improve.
LER Posted - 24 janv. 2009 : 20:44:11
I did NOT go through MyGarmin, but through the Maps menu (Update Maps), and put in the serial number.

it then offers me BOTH OneTime and Lifetime.
bgoo Posted - 24 janv. 2009 : 20:16:10
I have been reading these posts with great interest as my StreetPilot 7200 is also not included on the Garmin website compatibility list for the Lifetime maps. No matter what method I have tried on the website (top menu, myGarmin, etc.) to get to the purchase point for Lifetime for my unit I am not able to do so. I can however get to the purchase point for "Onetime" City Nav North America 2009.1 (I already have City Nav North America 2009 on the unit). I emailed Garmin support and here is the response that I received:

"I will be happy to help you with this. The 7200 is not compatible with the lifetime maps due to hardware restrictions.
With Best Regards, Amy Lu, Product Support Specialist"

To me this sounds ridiculous. What "hardware restrictions" would not allow a Lifetime download of 2009.1 but go ahead and allow the same download for a Onetime download? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
pratzert Posted - 24 janv. 2009 : 17:28:41
Please don't quote post directly above - Thanks, GPSpassion Team.


Did you go thru your "MYGARMIN" account to do this ?

AS I said, according to the Garmin web info about Lifetime maps, your GPS is not supported.

If my 3 units ARE supported, then I will be subscribing. They all use the "NT" maps.

Thanks, Tim
LER Posted - 23 janv. 2009 : 22:58:37
Ok, I can get Lifetime now (will be waiting till payday). The trick (at least for my 2720) is to go to the Update Maps page off the top menu, and put in my serial number. I then get both the one-time and lifetime options. The gal I talked to in support also verified that it will work.

Yay! I don't need to buy a new GPS to get lifetime :)
DerbyDad03 Posted - 23 janv. 2009 : 16:58:26
Originally posted by k-20
It seems Garmin needs to see the sat.lock date to get your automatic upgrade.

FYI - I ran into the same issue when I registered my unit before the first sat lock. The CSR I got didn't need a supervisor. She simply cancelled my registration and had me re-register. Boom - instant, free upgrade.

She also sent me a free DVD for a unit I bought many months ago when I knew nothing about registering the unit until I was outside the free upgrade period. "Oh you didn't know? I'll send you a free DVD."

I guess it all depends on which CSR you get - another example of why I always call back (any company) when I don't get the answer I like the first (or second) time.
bobpenn Posted - 23 janv. 2009 : 16:41:54
I also had to do the roundabout way as described earlier to get to the lifetime offer. The MyGarmin Maps area did not offer it to me. But if I did the following, it was offered as a purchase option:

go to
from the Maps top menu select Update Maps
Enter your serial number ... get it from the your registered products in the MyGarmin tab
The lifetime update will be offered to you.

I bought it and am downloading it now.
k-20 Posted - 23 janv. 2009 : 16:28:36
Yesterday afternoon I downloaded the new 2009.11 map. I had to call Garmin to get my free upgrade on my recently purchased 250W. I had registered the unit and upgraded the firmware before it's first satellite lock several weeks ago. It seems Garmin needs to see the sat.lock date to get your automatic upgrade. I called Garmin and all the CSR asked for was were I bought the nuvi and what date. He put me on hold to talk to a Supervisor, came back and said know problem you will be getting the upgrade. I logged into mygarmin on there website. the 'my maps' area showed the download now. They fixed up my issue on the spot. I downloaded 2009.11 and I installed on my 250W. I never did enter the product key that was included in my account area. The installation was almost seamless. When the install was complete I booted my nuvi. It showed the new maps installed and I checked some nearby new subdivisions a new road in my area. They were all in ! Well worth the couple hours spent to upgrade it.
pratzert Posted - 23 janv. 2009 : 15:03:09
I got an email from Garmin last night telling me that the Lilfetime maps were available and supplied a link to purchase.

Unfortunately.... NONE of the units I have were listed as being supported for the lifetime maps even though all my units use the NT2009 maps (which are currently loaded on them).

I have a 2730, 7500 and a 76CSx.

Why doesn't Garmin let me get the lifetime maps ?

I "suspect" that it may have something to do with a copy protection scheme or something built into the firmware of the supported units, but I really dont' know.

Anyone else have any idea why many units which use the same mapset can't subscribe to the lifetime maps ?

gpspassion Posted - 23 janv. 2009 : 01:19:05
Originally posted by gpspassion@FourOhFour - Please start another topic to discuss the CN2009.1 maps and we'll save this one for the actual signup/download process, thanks!
Thanks for starting [TOPIC] CN NA 2009.1x maps - Problems ?
gemro311 Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 23:02:56
@ did for me. Actually it installed Mapsource first then the Map for the unit afterwards. Process took about 1 1/2 hrs.
alandb Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 22:48:18
Does the nüMaps Lifetime download file include the installer for MapSource on the PC? Or do I have to have to purchase the nüMaps Onetime DVD to get MapSource? My nüvi is a 755T.
TTexas Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 22:36:25
I was able to successfully update, via the Lifetime nuMaps, to CN North America NT 2009.11. It took ~ 1 1/2 hrs to d/l and install.
d70s2 Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 21:31:58
LER Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 19:01:59
Even coming in via that maps page is NOT offering me Lifetime for my 2720. On the phone with TechSupport as I type.

It's supposed to let me do the Lifetime. They are looking into it, and will call or E-Mail me back. I also verified that they will load into MapSource and RoadTrip.

gpspassion Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 18:55:10
Will try with my 760 too to see what happens.

@FourOhFour - Please start another topic to discuss the CN2009.1 maps and we'll save this one for the actual signup/download process, thanks!

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