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 [TOPIC] HTC Kaiser/TyTn II, 8925/Tilt - Reviewed

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gpspassion Posted - 17 sept. 2007 : 20:20:09
TESTING - GPS PDAPhone : HTC TyTnII - Kaiser
Qualcomm AGPS - 3G+/HSDPA - WiFi - Keyboard - Geocoded Photos

UPDATED 20080101 - A new tool is available to experiment with the Qualcomm GPS module inside the Kaiser, more details on on page 4 of this topic

UPDATED 20071220 - An interesting USB to USB/Audio out adapter is available at Semsons, see details on on page 4 of this topic

UPDATED 20071123 - Full Review is available on the portal

Kaiser goes for a hike with nonigpsplot

Full review available in the portal >> LINK <<

ORIGINAL POST BY REM : Just got the Kaiser, Great PDA/Phone with integrated GPS. It's not Sirf, it uses a Qualcomm integrated chipset, but it gets 6-10 sats, 4-6 in the house. With their GPS Quickstart prog, it gets sat data via internet via phone or activesync. This speeds acquisition to about 5-10 seconds average.

I'm running iGuidance 4.0 and Google Maps mobile with GPS locator and it's and awesome combination! I can turn the phone off, and back on and the apps just start running again with no hangs.

The phone came bundled with TomTom "Taster" edition with 1 free map download of your choice. I played with it, then deleted it, I prefer iGuidance.

There is a slight bug in that the GPS data stream will pause every once in a while for a few seconds, the Nav app just freezes with a Red Status indicator then continues, but it's not very often maybe once during a 1 hour trip.

Overall 2 thumbs up on this all-in-one phone.
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gpspassion Posted - 24 oct. 2008 : 19:00:33
Welcome to the forums.
"Tracking" generally means "live tracking" wit the position uploaded to a server, doesn't seem you want to do that? In that case a nice app would be the free NoniGPS would do the trick and you can Google or scanned maps.
For live tracking :
morimoto Posted - 24 oct. 2008 : 17:08:39
Hello, thanks for the great review of the 8925. I had some questions. Here at work we are looking for a good tracker software that could track people on foot or cars driving in very remote areas of the world. The purpose would be to allow others to be able to retrace the steps. In the review I noticed some nice tracking maps and was wondering what software was used? Also what software would you recommend to use with offline Google maps and/or scanned in maps. This is for a largely nontechnical user base.

TzouR Posted - 30 juil. 2008 : 03:00:37
Thanks much, gpspassion. I will use Com4/4800 in both External GPS and IG settings.
gpspassion Posted - 30 juil. 2008 : 02:37:08
You want to use COM4/4800 normally.
TzouR Posted - 29 juil. 2008 : 18:43:10
Could someone please confirm the GPS settings (COM # and Baud rate) for IGuidance v4 installed in Tilt to ensure the use of QuickGPS (A-GPS)?

For Eten X500, the settings in my unit are COM2 in Programs, COM4 and 57600 in Hardware, and Managed GPS automatically checked in External GPS. Within Iguidance, Tools->GPS options, in addition, COM7 and 57600 Baud rate are set to utilize A-GPS. What are these settings in Tilt?
Shinare Posted - 15 mai 2008 : 15:03:28
Thanks, I'm in the US. I'll check out iGuidance for her. She needs something simnple to use but still functional.
gpspassion Posted - 15 mai 2008 : 02:31:46
Depends on where you are located, in the US iGuidance is a favorite, in Europe that would be TomTom, and you can get them from our friends at ;-)
Shinare Posted - 14 mai 2008 : 22:40:10
I just bought my daughter a Tilt and wanted to put a GPS software on it. Could someone please recommend to me a good software for it and where I might purchase it? Thanks.
gpspassion Posted - 06 mars 2008 : 11:01:57
You mean just the AGPS part? A bit difficult to do. As you can see from the comparisons in the articles though, the MSM7200 appears to be more sensitivie than the "old" GL-20000 so TTFF is faster, generally speaking.
malvindo Posted - 06 mars 2008 : 09:13:42
Originally posted by gpspassion

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I added a stock picture ;-)

It uses the new Qualcom MSM7200 chip, so hopefully the GPS performance has been improved compared to the MSM6275 used on the HTC P3600 as seen in this comparison. It only had problems in dense urban areas and road navigation software would likely "hide" most of the errors.

Can you give some details on the "GPS Quickstart" program? Is it a separate program or does it launch itself automatically when an app connects to the GPS module? If it's the former then it looks like these other "offline AGPS" solutions (see topic) and will need to be added there. If you can make screenshots that would be great!

I heard the TyTnII was a bit on the "heavy" side due to the complexity of the keyboard design, what do you think? Did you have another PDAPhone before?

A GPS too,
performance wise (accuracy n TTFF)
can compare to Global Locate's A GPS @ hw65xx ?
which better? this Qualcom or Global Locate?

Bartman_x50v Posted - 16 janv. 2008 : 13:38:03
Originally posted by gpspassion

No as you will see in car use and as I commented in detail, it only has problems in covered/underground sections, the rest is fine, in pedestrian mode it is always lagging/off. Remember that in the pedestrian example you took above, static navigation is ACTIVATED on the Mio A501, again, check out the detailed comments;

gpspassion Posted - 15 janv. 2008 : 18:54:10
Let's take a look, you mean this :

Quite possibly, but where would the GSM antenna be then, or maybe it's share. That would certainly explain the difficulty in getting a good signal compared to a patch antenna, even a 12x12 like the one used onthe Mio A701 or Mio A501.I wonder if they were able to fit one of these on the HTC Touch Cruise, probably not.
jerryk Posted - 15 janv. 2008 : 17:59:23
Originally posted by gpspassion

Feeling a bit lonely here ;-)

For those who want to see the guts of there Kaiser without pulling it apart : HTC_Kaiser_disassembly, a 1.7Mb pdf found on XDA-Dev. Haven't spotted the GPS antenna, can you ?

Isn't the antenna the metal strip coming off the jack in the second image? It looks like it would be on the top of the phone when held to the ear.
gpspassion Posted - 15 janv. 2008 : 14:13:19
No as you will see in car use and as I commented in detail, it only has problems in covered/underground sections, the rest is fine, in pedestrian mode it is always lagging/off. Remember that in the pedestrian example you took above, static navigation is ACTIVATED on the Mio A501, again, check out the detailed comments;
Bartman_x50v Posted - 15 janv. 2008 : 12:59:02
hi gpspassion
In conclusion you write:
"...The results are mixed with lower performance in pedestrian use..."

but if i look the immage seems that Kaiser is better on pedestrian use and not in car use.

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