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 Garmin Sues TomTom in the US

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raaaaaa Posted - 11 févr. 2006 : 10:43:28
looks like if garmin has it's way tomtom will no longer be available here in the US.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/business/technology/13834859.htm

Let us all PRAY!
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RedRover1 Posted - 02 nov. 2006 : 17:57:40
More info.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/15911177.htm
Marvin Hlavac Posted - 02 nov. 2006 : 15:37:23
You are FAST!

That's less than an hour old article. I bet we will find more details later during the day :-)
gpspassion Posted - 02 nov. 2006 : 15:21:58
No details, but apparently Garmin won this one : Garmin Wins Dutch Lawsuit Brought By TomTom
gpspassion Posted - 20 oct. 2006 : 16:04:14
This is a bit less theoretical : "Car navigation equipment maker TomTom has asked a Dutch judge to prevent the sale of Garmin's StreetPilot c300 and c500 series in Europe."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/20/tomtom_wants_garmin_ban/

Marvin Hlavac Posted - 30 août 2006 : 00:47:45
Thanks to RedRover1 who informed us of yet another lawsuit between TomTom and Garmin. The following is a link to a newspaper article mentioning the lawsuit: http://washington.bizjournals.com/kansascity/stories/2006/08/28/daily8.html No much details yet, but apparently it is about a Patent Number 7,062,378 held by Garmin. I'm not a lawyer, and I don't even know exactly what Garmin alleges, but a look thru the patent document makes me think it may be about how a GPS device selects an appropriate starting point for route recalculation. The process of route recalculation is not instantaneous; it may take several seconds (up to 20 seconds, according to the patent document). If the device recalculates new route from the point where we are now, by the time the recalculation is completed the newly plotted route may be obsolete if we have just passed another highway exit or a turn. However, if the device adjusts a starting point for the new route to a location forward along a current thoroughfare, the resulting suggested route may be different (better). (But again, I'm just guessing what the lawsuit may be about, purely by reading the text of the patent.)
gpspassion Posted - 11 avr. 2006 : 01:34:29
Not directly related, but maybe we'll get an update on the situation on May 3rd http://www.quote.com/qc/news/story.aspx?story=57498322 ;-)

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raaaaaa Posted - 17 févr. 2006 : 20:37:19
I could not have said it better myself
igalan Posted - 17 févr. 2006 : 17:26:23
Weren't patents intended to protect original and innovative creations? It seems that lately greedy firms are patenting trival things, sit there not using their patents waiting for everybody else to use them and then start suing. See AT&T and MPEG4, NTP vs RIM, Eolas vs Microsoft, Clear Channel vs everybody out there, Microsoft and FAT...

I hope Garmin looses big time with this. The patent in question just seems to cover a natural development of navigation systems; it shouldn't have been grated in first place.

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Marvin Hlavac Posted - 16 févr. 2006 : 19:33:07
I just would like the technology of displaying relevant street names to be used by every product maker ;-) It works very well ;-)


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gman Posted - 16 févr. 2006 : 15:40:52
Certainly sounds like Garmin's numbers are down since TomTom began their national ad blitz in recent months in the US. I'm not a fan of TomTom's software, but I do hope they win the suit as more competition in the market is always a good thing.
gpspassion Posted - 16 févr. 2006 : 11:43:32
Apparently a Belgium newspaper said that a ruling had already been reached and that TomTom products were forbidden in the USA...TomTom says no date has been set yet http://news.morningstar.com/news/DJ/M02/D13/200602130431DOWJONESDJONLINE000104.html?Cat=Americas !

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gpspassion Posted - 12 févr. 2006 : 10:37:08
Not sure you can really blame anyone from defending their patents if they think they are being abused, the courts wil have to figure that part out. From a user's standpoint they have certainly come out with a lot of interesting new designs in 2005 (don't think anyone's done better in the field!) and the move to SiRFIII is nice for the users too, you get the best possible GPS reception and Garmin's hardware and software designs.

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bisenberger Posted - 12 févr. 2006 : 04:00:46
What's up with Garmin? Sounds like the bean counters have taken over. Their support has gone down the tubes, they are using another manufactures chip, and now they are trying to monopolize the GPS market. Consumers beware!
gpspassion Posted - 11 févr. 2006 : 18:21:07
Indeed, here are some excerpts:

"Garmin lawsuit alleges infringement of patentsBy DAVID HAYESThe Kansas City Star

In lawsuits filed in federal court in Wisconsin, Garmin contends that TomTom is infringing on five Garmin U.S. patents that protect technology used in its Global Positioning System devices...Among those patents is one that protects Garmin technology designed to simplify the maps showing a vehicle’s location. The technology calculates which streets are important enough to a driver’s route to be displayed on the device’s on-screen maps...“TomTom Inc. rejects Garmin’s claims and will vigorously defend itself,” the company said...Market analysts on Thursday called the lawsuits bad news for TomTom because a successful outcome for Garmin could force TomTom to quit marketing its products in the United States...."

Patents are patents, but just from an observer's standpoint, the whole argument about "make GPS navigators easier to use" is a bit odd since Garmin came to 3D display and button-oriented interfaces long after TomTom first used the latter with TomTom Navigator v1 in 2002 and the former with TTNv2 in 2003, Garmin came to that in 2005 with the C320.

Related links :
Garmin sues TomTom for patent infringement - link
TomTom shares slip after Garmin lawsuit - link



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