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hcornea Posted - 27 mai 2006 : 13:09:52


Australian Speed and Traffic Cameras


New collection


Manager : hcornea
Last Update : 01/12/2006
Number of POIs : 83
Coverage : Whole of Australia
Available Format(s) :GPX (Compatible Garmin POILoader 2.40 beta)
Download Link : hcornea_AustralianSpeedcams08.zip

Link : Australian Police - WA

Adding or updating a POI :

Posts here for additions/corrections for the Australian Speedcam file.

Please include

GPS Co-ordinates (digital degrees please, rather than Deg,Min,Sec)
Type of Cam (eg Redlight / Speed / Traffic)
Whats wrong - eg missing entry, wrong speed limit, etc

(Also: suggested alert distance, in metres, to be embedded in
the .GPX file)

Please include the name or location of both the correct location,
and the camera description in the file if you are correcting locations.

Be aware that there are Dummy cams out there, so try to be sure if
submitting an entry. (If it has issued a fine to you then it
probably is working ! )

Also: I am limiting this file to FIXED speedcams - mainly because
the GPS will drive us all nuts if it alerts to every possible spot a
cam could be.


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passat2 Posted - 09 janv. 2008 : 22:33:16
Thanks for the info Revhead. Keep up the good work.
Revhead Posted - 09 janv. 2008 : 22:02:41
Hi guys,
I'm in the Blue Mountains outside Sydney.
Was travelling up Pennant Hills Rd the other day and noticed the red light camera at the corner of Parkes St and Pennant Hills Rd, Thornleigh isn't marked at all?
Other than that it's all good, apart from the fact that the warning you get seems to vary a great deal from almost none at all to more than 600 metres?

hcornea Posted - 31 déc. 2007 : 07:30:59
Hi John,

Feel free to tidy up the data, I don't have much time - so any enthusiasm and input is appreciated.

It would be great if there was a collaborative way to update the the information, like www.POIhandler.com - which allows an individual to administrate the list, and individuals to contribute.

If you wish to take over the list, I'd be happy for that.
passat2 Posted - 30 déc. 2007 : 21:51:05
Good stuff John. Keep up the good work.
Colin.
John Meara Posted - 30 déc. 2007 : 03:50:25
quote:
Originally posted by macnoodle

I, for one, would welcome this. So consider this a vote for "YES, go ahead".
Thanks macnoodle.

I tried emailing, but this site won't allow me to email other members?! Maybe I am still too much a newbie?

I have already done quite a bit of work on the QLD camera sites: I did my first big run a few days ago around Brisbane's southside using the camera sistes as Waypoints in a carefully thought out route to avoid backtracking. I found the following:
1. a few of the Red Light Camera sites did NOT exist,
2. NONE of the Speed Camera sites existed (it was pretty obvious most of these supposed speed sites were actually Red Light Camera sites, and the few others may have been old mobile camera sites.
3. A huge amount of duplication bewteen the speed and red light sites.

What I have found then (as expected): virtually ALL of the Speed Camera sites for QLD are wrong. As I said earlier, QLD has only recently legislated for FIXED speed cameras, of which there are only 3 current sites (2 already active). I also will add Traffic cameras and school zones where I pass them (into their respective files).

I have another couple of runs planned to cover the Northside of Brisbane and other locations.
Cheers
macnoodle Posted - 30 déc. 2007 : 00:04:20
quote:
Originally posted by John Meara
As I said, I am prepared to do a general tidy-up of the data if you/people want this. What do you think?
Cheers


Hi John,

I, for one, would welcome this. So consider this a vote for "YES, go ahead".
Revhead Posted - 29 déc. 2007 : 14:24:47
Greetings one and all,
Have just purchased a GPS device and am interested in what you are doing, both from a personal and professional point of view as a motoring journalist (one with a total dislike for these cameras).
Needed to convert the GPX info into SPUD format for my device (cheapo Logic Gear 350F which I understand is a rebadged Mio) and am yet to put it to the test.
I travel all over Australia (and overseas for that matter) as part of my work and will happily keep you posted on any new cameras that I come across.
John Meara Posted - 20 déc. 2007 : 15:33:06
hcornea,
I have just reviewed the files in the downloaded Zip file:
  • Red-Light_Camera
  • Speed_Camera
  • Schools_40
  • Traffic_Camera
I am really pleased to get this information. You and others have done a great job. Now this may be premature, but I noticed the inconsistency in the naming etc. So I have a suggestion, or should I say offer....

I would like to tackle the job of sorting out the naming of (initially) all the individual Speed Camera locations, then later if I am up to it, all the Red Light Cameras. I would need your approval of the naming protocol first. Then make the changes, send the file to you for comment and any suggestions for fine tuning (if any).

I would propose a system for each POI/Waypoint as follows:

Name: SpeedCam####-100 :- where "SpeedCam" is common to ALL names, then #### is the numerical ID of each Waypoint (preferably 4 digits & from the current name if it has an ID), then -100 to signify a 100 kph speed zone for example (or -50, -60, -80,-110, etc, or could also be @50, @60, etc). If no specific ID tag for a location, then I'd create one consistent with that locality & type.

Symbol: Stay the generic black square, however I have a selection of camera icons that may be worth considering for inclusion as alternative BMPs for the POI_Loading process.

Comments: I would make this the field for describing the location and other additional info about this camera.

Categories: If members thought it a good idea, I could make each Waypoint a specific “Category”, so all these cameras show up in a different layer of your mapping. Not too sure about this element of the idea though.

Here's an example. the top half of the image shows the old protocol, the bottom half shows one proposal for renaming:



The general benefits of this task as I see it are:
1. That the warning that flashes up across the top of screen starts with "SpeedCam" and includes the speed, without being cluttered by other location data.
2. The Waypoints/POIs and GPX files become easier to track and manage.

As I said, I am prepared to do a general tidy-up of the data if you/people want this. What do you think?
Cheers
John Meara Posted - 20 déc. 2007 : 03:52:38
Good to hear from you and thanks for the answers. Where are you based?

The Qld Government has this year legislated for fixed speed cameras, and the first 2 of 3 are now operational. They are as follows:

The first (I initially called it Camera0802-60)
Type: Fixed speed camera
Coords: S27.47184 E153.03552
Location: Main Street (Northbound), Kangaroo Point.
(Brisbane - southern approach to Story Bridge)
Speed limit: 60 kph

The second (I initially called it Camera0358-100)
Type: Fixed speed camera
Coords: S27.16640 E152.98004
Location: Bruce Hwy (Northbound), Burpengary
Speed limit: 100 kph

There does not appear to be any indication yet on the brand of fixed cameras in use in Qld. A third will soon be located on our South East Freeway, with no doubt by the public that many more will follow in coming years. They use the same system of signage as in NSW to warn motorists on approach to the camera site.

The new laws also mean that all the existing QLD sites on your list are NOT fixed speed cameras. Given their locations, most look on paper to be Red Light cameras, or maybe a few old mobile speed camera locations. I'll start doing a reconnoitre of the existing listed (red light?) local Brisbane sites first, then expect the further out sites will be checked as I pass them.
Cheers
John
hcornea Posted - 19 déc. 2007 : 22:40:59
Hi John,

I switched to gpx format, because it is now supported by POI Loader (later versions). The format the file comes in can be used to load directly into POILoader.

The advantage of GPX (see some of the Victorian cams) is that you can use distance radii, set independent of the speed attribute (these will display as a red ring on mapsource) and can be set in the waypoint properties. This reduces false alarms.

You are correct - the bizarre numbering reflects the sources from which these have been compiled.

You are now officially the man on the ground in Brisbane ... so feel free to advise re deletion / new cams. I think FIXED cameras is more useful for the database.

I have tended to use correct geographic location, then sometimes modified it to improve function in the GPS, and minimise false alarms on adjacent roads (eg a 60kmh camera adjacent to a freeway)

Some are incorrectly labelled Speed or RLC or dual when they are not.

Sorry the file hasn't been updated for a while - work is running (ruining?) my life at present!
passat2 Posted - 18 déc. 2007 : 21:59:08
Thanks for you interest in Brisbane Speed cameras John. I and I know others will appreciate your input.
John Meara Posted - 17 déc. 2007 : 15:23:24
I have just registered. I have a couple of new fixed camera locations for Brisbane (our State's first fixed speed cameras - more to follow!). Before I submit them, a couple of questions:

1. This may be a bit picky, but do you prefer the location to be:
a) accurate for the camera, where the pole it sits on is actually located beside the road? or
b) the position on the road adjacent to the camera, or
c) the spot up the road a few metres where it is looking? or
d) Anywhere in close proximity (we-don't-really-care-about-being that-accurate location)?

2. What are the numbering systems you are using? Are they based on the old source files of various types, like from the Garmin site?

3. The "speed camera" file I downloaded (*8.zip) shows locations for inner Brisbane and none of these are "fixed" speed cameras. So are they sites where "mobile" cameras have been spotted? (or maybe they are red light?) Thoughts?

4. hcornea, you supply these as GPX files (with accompanying sound and icons), suggesting we load them directly into Mapsource. I also like have CSV files (with accompanying MP3 & BMP files). This way I can edit the source data in other ways and upload into my Zumo using POI-Loader. Any chance you are also maintaining a CSV file?

FYI, in a previous life I was a Cartographer and so am very interested in mapping and the GPS, playing for hours late at night with MapSource ;- I've had a Garmin Zumo 550 on our ST1300 for 12 months and we toured for 5 months (May to Sep 07) around the UK and western Europe covering 22,000 km. The trip and the GPS were brilliant.

Cheers
vtecman Posted - 28 nov. 2007 : 02:54:49
Doesnt garmin.com.au give you a file of red light/speed cameras and other alerts??
awp Posted - 07 oct. 2007 : 01:45:12
Thanks,
I'll be waiting
hcornea Posted - 29 août 2007 : 09:54:09
Thanks - think my subscription might have expired to this thread!?

Sorry I haven't been on for a while (busy!)

I've added these into the collection of speedcams and will post soon.

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