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 [TOPIC] Nuvi 2x0 with 2x5 interface and Type B GPS

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eleven Posted - 05 déc. 2008 : 03:01:14
My parents just got a new nuvi 250 and I have one about maybe over a year old.

I noticed there's has a really nice interface. Can I get this on mine? I updated to version 5.0 of the software but same interface.

Thanks in advance.
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HRS Posted - 31 janv. 2009 : 21:01:33
Uh oh...just noticed another difference between the "new" 260W and a real 2x5 nuvi...and this just might be a deal-killer...the 260W does not show the faint building outlines in big cities that my 205 does!!

So, with the new 260W, be careful not to drive through buildings as a shortcut.
k-20 Posted - 23 janv. 2009 : 01:10:15
HRS I picked up a 250W not long ago, It has 255W 4.80 firmware installed on it now. No ecoRoute or tts on it. There has to be a way to 'add' or 'enable' some files in our 2x0W units. Seeing they are just rebranded 2x5W units using the same firmware and chipsets. I would love to hear from anyone who has been able to tweak there new version 2x0W nuvi's. It would be interesting to compare backup dumps of a 255W vs a new version 250W with the same firmware and chipsets.
HRS Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 18:01:59
I'm guessing Garmin intentionally left some features out (like the speed limit display) in order to prevent people from buying a "real" 255W at the lower 260W price (at least at Best Buy).
gpspassion Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 17:49:59
Thanks for the info, you have to wonder WHY they chose to do that! A licencing problem maybe if they are using some outside software/technology for ecoRoute ?
HRS Posted - 22 janv. 2009 : 17:47:20
For what it's worth, the new 260W (in the earthtones box), which has 99% of the 2x5 features, does not implement EcoRoute with the 4.80 firmware.
neadrenalin Posted - 24 déc. 2008 : 09:25:28
I mean that if you have no problems with your unit - do not flash it; use it for navigation, not pc-connecting-updating. Loosing power on PC, drained battery power, bad firmware with newer bugs (remember nuvi760?) - all of this can lead to bad cases.

Webupdater reads garmindevice.xml file and regarding this chooses what firmware to download from web. Even if mistaken (for some reason) - unit will check gupdate.gcd and will not flash firmware that does not suit it. I think that newer 260 are the same firmware based as 2x5 series. Hardware is changed too, so old firmware does not fit them. But using updater.exe user can change almost everything, even flash non-native firmware (that will lead to broken device). So, think twice before considering update something.
gpspassion Posted - 22 déc. 2008 : 17:02:59
Yes I wasn't sure about that comment too, maybe neadrenalin thought/thinks the WebUpdater gets confused by the 2x0 models with the 2x5 interface ?
HRS Posted - 22 déc. 2008 : 04:59:25
I think you *would* want to use WebUpdater to update any nuvi unit in the "normal" manner. I've already done that on my new-version 260W with no problems.
neadrenalin Posted - 21 déc. 2008 : 22:41:12
zapomni, and other people!
DO NOT TO TRY TO UPDATE YOUR OLD-BRAND 250w UNIT to newer firmware from NEW-BRAND 250w!!! THEY HAVE DIFFERENT HWIDs!
IT WILL REALLY DAMAGE YOUR DEVICE!!!

Memory map is different (for example 0x10040000 and 0x00060000 are base addresses in RAM for nuvi 200 and nuvi 205 - they are DIFFERENT) and you even will not get 'Software missing' message. No usb in service mode and no chances to repair except desolder chip and program it with another flash.

>>Will I get the 255 features
No, you will get blank screen pretty dead unit.

2x5 series have the same firmware - 205,215,255,265,276 etc. You must know that inside one serie different HWIDs can be used. They are incompatible between too.

Necessary features like tts are enabled/disabled during device startup and device writes its model. So, in theory, we can patch code that disables tts for 205 for example, and unit will boot with tts support like 265. It is hard but it's possible.

PLEASE DO NOT USE WEBUPDATER OR UPDATER UNLESS YOU REALLY NEED TO.
zapomni Posted - 21 déc. 2008 : 21:34:45
I have the new version of the 250 unit as well. It is nicer than the old 250 for sure.
I was wondering if I flash to this formware:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=117598

Will I get the 255 features, like TTS? My hardware ID is 0851 just like 255 units.
HRS Posted - 13 déc. 2008 : 21:48:07
Best Buy had a one-day special on the Garmin nuvi 260W @ $169.99 + a $10 Best Buy gift card.

Since I like the 260 better than the 205, and wanted a widescreen unit, I picked up the 260W (in the "new" packaging, plastic around a mostly gray box, and not the solid blue of older units).

But...the "260W" is really a 265W, minus the speed limit sign display. Everything else is a "265W" including fast screen refresh rate, satellite display, HotFix, QWERTY keyboard option and traffic-upgradable. And, this time at least, the sceen is polarized sunglasses-friendly and does not wash out in sunlight.

The bad news: the speaker is really, really bad; the voices are distorted and the case buzzes.

12/21/2008 Update: A few days after this post, Garmin has already updated the TTS voices on the really-a-265W 260W. American English "Jack" is a little bit better but is still somewhat distorted. The XML locator data file was also just updated.
gpspassion Posted - 05 déc. 2008 : 03:22:44
I take it your parents' 250 has the same interface as the 2x5 nüvis as seen in nuvi 2x5 (205, 255) wt - Reviews - v4.60 ?

There have indeed been reports that the 2x0 models were in fact rebranded 2x5's with the same software and hardware (STMicro Cartesio), most likely to streamline production and save on costs before phazing out the old range in early 2009.

Anyway, to answer your question, most unlikely not as Garmin does not offer software upgrades for old models. Only twice in the past have they added features to old models, and they were hardware related, MSN2 on the 7x0 models and SiRFInstantFix on the 7x0 too.

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