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How to upgrade/downgrade the firm. on Mio (Moov+C)

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Topic author: g_alin
Subject: How to upgrade/downgrade the firm. on Mio (Moov+C)
Posted on: 08 Jul 2009 04:40:28
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This post is intended for firmware upgrades (original or custom).
As a general rule, this post will be updated (from time to time) to reflect latest documents (or versions).

Last update: Monday, Aug 08, 2011

Question 1: what devices can be upgraded?
Answer 1: (until now) this procedure was tested on Mio C220_NA; C320; C520_EEU; C520T_WEU
Tested performed by: Mio C220_NA (me),Mio C250_EEU (tgg2k) , Mio C520_EEU (asgaard: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=5) C520T_WEU (krisvw: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=4), C320 (zeluis_cps: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=6), C520T_WEU (PeterMJ: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=6)

Question 2: how can I upgrade the firmware?
Answer 2: There is a small utility that is able to activate the UPGRADE screen. This upgrade screen will provide you the possibility to upgrade two components: uboot and wince.
http://www.4shared.com/file/cvkc5b2z/UPGRADE_MIO_11Jun10.html
In this package you’ll find the documentation available to perform the upgrade.
- Menu structure can be found in file menu.txt (UPGRADE_MIO_ddmmmyy.zip\SDCard\documents\menu.txt)
- Procedure (how to upgrade) can be found in file read-me.txt (UPGRADE_MIO_ddmmmyy.zip\SDCard\documents\read-me.txt)
WARNING: I DON'T RECOMMEND UPGRADING UBOOT.
WARNING: IN SOME CASES (read read-me.txt carefully) ALL THE INFORMATION FROM “MY FLASH DISK” MAY BE LOST, DO A BACK-UP FIRST.

Question 3: How can I come back to my old firmware (if I don’t like this new firmware)?
Answer 3: After you performed the upgrade is recommended to left the UPGRADE screen activated for a period of time (days, weeks) until are you 100% sure that your device is stable. After that you can disable the UPGRADE screen.
The firmwares I have (so far) are:

C220_NA (R06.3.0165.0315) http://www.4shared.com/file/129432373/b6157f94/C220_NA_ROM_R06301650315.html (better option than R06.3)
C220_NA (R08.3.0165.0611) http://www.4shared.com/file/129432408/6bc9265e/C220_NA_ROM_R08301650611.html
C220_RUS (R05.3.0171.0911) http://www.4shared.com/file/129434239/16056665/C220_RUS_ROM_R05301710911.html
C220_WEU (R04.3.0168.0316) http://www.4shared.com/file/153597068/221d4465/C220_WEU_ROM_R04301680316.html
C220_WEU (R05.4.0168.0425) http://www.4shared.com/file/153632930/a59a99a0/C220_WEU_ROM_R05401680425.html
C220_EEU (R02.3.0173.0608) http://www.4shared.com/file/225563080/efefe1b9/C220_EEU_ROM_R02301730608.html
C220_EEU (MioMap2008?) (R02.0170_V2.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/230500935/70c78205/C220_EEU_ROM_R020170_V2000000.html
C220_EEU (Turkey ONLY) (R04.3.0172.0911) http://www.4shared.com/file/129442246/5eb06eff/C220_EEUT_ROM_R04301720911.html
C220_RUS-rev.230 (R00.2.9952.0229.64Mb) http://www.4shared.com/file/203306716/9d333d88/C220_RUS_ROM_R0029952022964Mb.html (base on SMDK2443)

C230_EU MioMap2008 (C230.V1.10.0007) http://www.4shared.com/file/rVXWU7v3/C230_EU_ROM_C230V1100007.html
C230_NA MioMap3.3 (R10.2.9941.0822.64MB) http://www.4shared.com/file/9fhTgJjS/C230_NA_ROM_R1029941082264MB.html

C250_EEU (R03.3.0164.0416) http://www.4shared.com/file/129443927/cb04716b/C250_EEU_ROM_R03301640416.html
C250_EU (MioMap2008?) (R02.0164_v2.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/134364541/2a48b083/C250_EU_ROM_-_R020164_v2000000.html
I am not sure, but the firmware from C250 may work on C250 Plus also (and vice versa)
C250_Plus_EU (R11.3.0160.1107) http://www.4shared.com/file/134361154/73ee2da3/C250_EU_ROM_R11301601107.html
C250_Plus_EU (R17.4.0160.0917) http://www.4shared.com/file/143885453/7eb69489/C250_EU_ROM_R17401600917.html (better option than R11.3)

C320_NA (R40.3.9904.0720) http://www.4shared.com/file/129459508/324a3ec8/C320_NA_ROM_R40399040720.html
C320_WEU (R37.3.9926.0702) http://www.4shared.com/file/129446046/d2562dc6/c320_WEU_ROM_R37399260702.html
C320_CHS (R02.3.9964.0511) http://www.4shared.com/file/258646102/6862d98f/C320_CHS_ROM_R02399640511.html

C320b_WEU (R01.3.9918.1017) http://www.4shared.com/file/njtPwqXa/C320b_WEU_ROM_R01399181017.html

C520_WEU (R37.3.9931.0816) http://www.4shared.com/file/129460987/599e656f/C520T_WEU_ROM_R37399310816.html
C520_EEU (R02.3.9911.1018) http://www.4shared.com/file/129461850/cb2a83d3/C520_EEU_ROM_R02399111018.html
C520_EEUT (MioMap2008) (ROM_V1.00.0003) http://www.4shared.com/file/129467782/bebd8453/C520_EEUT_ROM_V1000003.html
C520_EEU_RUS (R45.3.9966.1010) http://www.4shared.com/file/129461931/ebb57ef4/C520_EEU_ROM_R45399661010.html
C520_EEU_RUS (R02.3.9834.0729) http://www.4shared.com/file/04fVJmIe/C520_EEU_RUS_ROM_R02398340729.html (traffic jams information over GPRS)
C520_EEU_HEBRAIC (R40.3.9932.0709) http://www.4shared.com/file/136394618/396ac4c3/C520_EEU_ROM_R40399320709.html
C520_AUS (R39.3.9965.0801) http://www.4shared.com/file/129463416/e536d20d/C520_AUS_ROM_R39399650801.html
C520_AUS (R41.3.9965.1031) http://www.4shared.com/file/214445692/a0781e28/C520_AUS_ROM_R41399651031.html
C520_NA (R48.3.9937.1026) http://www.4shared.com/file/143829336/5daf761c/C520_NA_ROM_R48399371026.html

C620_WEU (R06.3.9906.1106) http://www.4shared.com/file/_fAKcgsz/C620_WEU_ROM_R06399061106.html

C720t_NA (R05.3.9905.0912) http://www.4shared.com/file/cHT4tbIq/C720t_NA_ROM_R05399050912.html
C720_EEUT (R02.3.9913.1018) http://www.4shared.com/file/NNKvfU6C/C720_EEUT_ROM_R02399131018.html

C720b_EEU (R01.3.9977.0117) http://www.4shared.com/file/jy83EB-X/C720b_EEU_ROM_R01399770117.html


Older series:
C310_ENG_EEU_RUS (R36F.3.1100.0702) http://www.4shared.com/file/129464116/7e2a285f/C310_ENG_RUS_ROM_R36F311000702.html

C510_ENG_EEU_RUS (R35F.3.126.0711) http://www.4shared.com/file/129466625/6348f428/C510_ENG_RUS_ROM_R35F31260711.html
C510_ENG_EEU (OSCAR210AEEUR33F) http://www.4shared.com/file/129466192/1b97aec5/C510_EEU_R33F.html

C710_ENG_EUR (R33F.2.112.517) http://www.4shared.com/file/243375100/4d19a84a/C710_ENG_R33F2112517.html
backup - http://www.4shared.com/file/LUxw_lk-/C710_ENG_ROM_R33F2112517.html
C710_ENG (R30F.3.122.721) http://www.4shared.com/file/D2JenqM-/C710_R30F3122721.html
C710_ENG_EU (NL) (R34F.3.112.928) http://www.4shared.com/file/xtsrf1Yl/C710_ENG_EU__NL__R34F3112928.html

H610_NA (R38.2.0153.1010) http://www.4shared.com/file/194548050/351060b2/H610_NA_ROM_R38201531010.html
H610_WEU (R50.3.0150.1123) http://www.4shared.com/file/239872283/472a538c/H610_WEU_ROM_R50301501123.html

Other Mio/Mitac Clones:
Clarion EZD580, it is marketed in Europe under the names Clarion Map780 and Clarion MAP680:
Clarion EZD580 (R10.4.1331.0512) http://www.4shared.com/file/237243823/beea7b5e/Clarion_EZD580_ROM_R1041331051.html

If you have a different firmware you need to back-up your wince. To do that, you need DiscRW utility.
If your device is unlocked and you can run applications on your PNA, try to use this DiskRW software:
http://www.4shared.com/file/134354901/9ef633/DiskRW.html
instructions:
1.Start DiskRW
2.Select from combo-box (close to 'Store:') -> SMFlash
3.Press '...' button and select 'Storage Card' (where to save your SMFlash.img); If '...' doesn't work you can write (using any keyboard you have) the name of the SDCard folder of your PNA (ex: \Storage Card\, \SDMMC\ ...)
4.Press 'Read' button. A Hourglass will appear and it will take approx. 30 sec.
If the above application doesn't work, you should contact me to (on this thread) to fins a solution. Because every device is different I can’t give you a DiskRW custom made for your model.

For wince 4.2: you can use also bkondisk.exe (http://hpcmonex.net/roms/bkondisk.zip). For more info check: http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=82603&whichpage=2

Question 4: I lost 'My Flash Disk' can I recover it with this procedure?
Answer 4: Yes. You have to use 'wince by USB (Format)' to format your 'My Flash Disk'.
WARNING: ALL THE INFORMATION FROM “MY FLASH DISK” WILL BE LOST (and there is nothing you can do to save it).

Question 5: There is anything else that I should know?
Answer 5: Yes. There are no warranties what so ever; so all you do is on your own risk. Anyway I can tell you that I uploaded on my GPS (C220_NA) many not compatible firmwares. I wouldn’t recommend you to do that until you really know what you are doing. If you check the firmware before and is using the same SMFlash memory area, like your device, (theoretically) there is no risk. But like I said: DON’T TRY THAT (unless you really know what you’re doing).

Those Q/A will cover most of the questions, but if you have other questions (or any advice) please let me know. When other firmware will be available I will update this post.

Custom firmware (usually ‘custom’ stands for ‘changed’ - aka ROM cooking).
software need it to change a firmware: ROMMasterCE5 (v.1.9.9) - http://www.4shared.com/file/237775472/8f86f256/ROMMasterCE_ver199.html

1. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) added. (doesn't work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129470682/1fc8ff6d/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_1.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.

2. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) and all office components added. (doesn’t work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129470932/f760619b/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_2.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.

3. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) and all office components added. Has a Navigator.lnk shortcut from Desktop to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap\Miomap.exe. If you have, more than one, navigation software you can place a script there - using mortscript switch command; to be able to start any of those applications. Also previous version has the FSRAMPERCENT to small -> was increased to 1.5M (doesn’t work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129471186/a5564a94/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_3.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.
- Taskbar is on top of the navigation software. FIX: Start \ Settings \ Taskbar and Start Menu -> CHECK Auto hide


A second (more complicated option) that will help you to recover MioC320 (probably also C520 and C720) is JTAG recovery:
http://www.4shared.com/file/JAIsslVX/RecoverMioCX20.html
This method can be used also for GWES error at start up or 'only orage screen' at start up ... or other type of malfunctions.

With srelioskoz help we have a recovery method also for Moov series :)

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FIRST OF ALL DO NOT TRY ANYTHING IN YOUR MIO BEFORE YOU READ ALL THIS POST
IF YOU DON'T SEE YOUR FIRMWARE AVAILABLE, DON'T TRY TO USE ANOTHER FIRMWARE, FIRST DOWNLOAD THE SMFLASH.IMG (TO BE ABLE TO RESTORE YOU DEVICE, LATER ON) AND ONLY AFTER THAT YOU CAN PLAY WITH OTHER FIRMWARES.

WARNING! DON'T USE PIN9 MOTHODE UNLESS YOU TRIED EVERYTHING ELSE ... MAY END UP WITH A BRICKED DEVICE (that can be only through JTAG recovered).
@ablbd:
" ... most probably is data corruption into bootloader blocks. I would say that pin9 unlock will always produce somewhere on nand data corruption. The bad luck is when that "somewhere" happens to be in bootloader area..."


1)how to upgrade mio moov firmware
http://www.4shared.com/file/191674275/ad12bab0/cobia_420_64.html

mirror: http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html

download this file and put it in your sd card (this is for mio moov 360 if you have another mio moov you must rename the folder)
Moov 150 - European: Cobia_300L_32, North American: Cobia_300L_32_NA, Australian: Cobia_300L_32_AU
Moov 200 - European: Cobia_300_32, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_32_AU
Moov 200u - European: Cobia_300_64, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_64_AU
Moov 210 - European: Cobia_T300_32, North American: Cobia_T300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T300_32_AU
Moov 300 - European: Cobia_400_64, North American: Cobia_400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_400_64_AU
Moov 310 - European: Cobia_T400_64, North American: Cobia_T400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T400_64_AU
Moov 330 - European: Cobia_410_64, North American: Cobia_410_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_410_64_AU
Moov 360 - European: Cobia_420_64, North American: Cobia_420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_420_64_AU
Moov 370 - European: Cobia_T420_64, North American: Cobia_T420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T420_64_AU
Moov 500 - European: Cobia_500_64, North American: Cobia_500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_500_64_AU
Moov 500 R2 - European: Cobia500R2, North American: Cobia500R2_NA, Australian: Cobia500R2_AU
Moov 510 - European: Cobia_T500_64, North American: Cobia_T500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T500_64_AU
Moov 560 - European: Cobia_520_64, North American: Cobia_520_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_520_64_AU
Moov 580 - European: Cobia_T550_64, North American: Cobia_T550_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T550_64_AU


when you start up your mio this program will start by it self and will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE
choose USERMODE and OK to all it ask you.
then put power button to reset position and on again
your mio moov will start with blue upgrade screen.

download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card (use small cards 128M -> 1G)
startup your mio and you can see blue upgrade screen
touch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off and then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio without sd card and connect it to pc
open mio more desktop and write again mio map program and the map.
then put the power button to reset position and put the power button to on position
when you see the black screen with firmware of your mio ,push inside the sd card
your mio will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE ... choose SUPERMODE and ok to all it ask you

this is the firmware for mio moov 330 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/Moov330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html

firmware of moov 360 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/165538541/90b06686/Moov_360_ROM.html

firmware of mio 300 europe
THIS IS NOT A GOOD FIRMWARE ... DON'T TRY TO LOAD IT
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/Moov300_ .... winceimg.zip




2)How to repair your mio if no connection with pc
look this video to found how to make mio moov upgrade screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKM7C_6UYkw

look this video how to open mio moov application
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLKSG3U2VYk

look this link .on 4 page you can see the pinout of cobia electronic part (memory IC)
http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/datasheets/qi_lb60/U9~K9GAG08U0M~~2GB-FINAL_NAND-NOT_ON_SOME_PROTOTYPES~~.pdf

- Old version (ITS NOT WORKING FOR COBIA_300_32)
first put the sd card in to mio
1)put the power button to RESET position
2)carefully connect the wire as you see on the picture http://www.4shared.com/file/192360271/79584b60/moov330pcbback1.html
3)put the power button to ON position
4)you will see the blue screen
5)take the wire from the connect
6)if you want the normal screen put again the power switch to RESET position
7)if you want to make a selection when you have blue screen, touch on screen and then put the power button to OFF and then ON position
8)DO NOT MAKE FORMAT SELECTION IF YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHIT FIRMWARE

- New version (ITS WORKING FOR COBIA_300_32) - confirmed only by srelioskoz
1) first make a short between pin 12(vcc)and pin 19 (write protect). IC name should be something with K9GAG08U0M ... with 48 pins
2) then put the power button from RESET to ON for 4-5 seconds
3) then put the power to RESET
4) then make a short between pin 9 and GND and put power button to ON. GND its any metal used for shielding ...
FINALLY: then you see the blue screen.
5)if you want to make a selection when you have blue screen, touch on screen and then put the power button to OFF and then ON position
6)DO NOT MAKE FORMAT SELECTION IF YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT FIRMWARE

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download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card
with blue upgrade screen touch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio and connect it to pc
open MioMore Desktop and write again mio map program and the map.

i d like to say thanks to g_alin for his help
STELIOS FROM GREECE
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Moov firmware (some new devices don't have Recovery CD - in that case you should copy all data from \My Flash Disk folder before upgrade)

Moov150_EU (Cobia_300L_32) (ROM_V1.00.0024) http://www.4shared.com/file/257616884/78a132a4/Moov_150_Cobia_300L_32_EU_V100.html (not confirmed)

Moov200_EU N177 (ROM_V1.00.0030) http://www.4shared.com/file/219174788/96724186/Moov200_EU_ROM_V1000030.html
Moov200_EU (Greece) (Cobia_300_32) (ROM_V1.00.0019) http://www.4shared.com/file/243403980/19dc08e/Moov_200_Cobia_300_32_EEU_V100.html
Moov200_EEU (Cobia_300_32) (ROM_V1.00.0028) http://www.4shared.com/file/7x6pv62B/Moov_200_Cobia_300_32_EEU_V100.html
Moov200u_FEU (Cobia300_R07_0201 RAM64 MLC 2G) (ROM_V1.00.0018) http://www.4shared.com/file/jckimCl8/Moov_200_Cobia_300_64_FEU_V100.html
Moov200u_EEU (Cobia_300_32) (ROM_V1.00.0018) http://www.4shared.com/file/GtTfRwZJ/Moov_200_Cobia_300_32_EEU_V100.html
Moov200u_EEU_NEW_VERSION (Cobia300R2_32M_R04_0827 MLC 2G) (ROM_V1.00.0018) http://www.4shared.com/file/jcHm1PXx/Moov_200_Cobia_300_32_EEU_V100.html
Moov200_???_(Cobia_300R2_32_N206_T300.R2.32) (ROM_V1.00.0004) http://www.4shared.com/file/E-Rf8Tzw/Moov_200_Cobia_300R2_32_V10000.html
Moov200_???_(Cobia_300R2_32_N206_T300.R2.32) (ROM_V1.00.0007) http://www.4shared.com/file/8_KNafbg/Moov_200_Cobia_300R2_32__N206_.html


Moov300_AU (ROM_410R2.V1.00.0010) http://www.4shared.com/file/9OE3RaRe/Moov_300_AU_ROM_410R2V1000010.html

Moov310_NA (ROM_COBIAT400.V1.00.0015) http://www.4shared.com/file/tjOj81Yv/Moov_310_CobiaT400_NA_V1000015.html

Moov330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0019) http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/Moov330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
Moov330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0028) http://www.4shared.com/file/195309548/19093226/Moov330_EU_ROM_V1000028.html
Moov330_EEU (ROM_V1.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/241960405/70275e3/Moov_330_Cobia_410_EEU_V100000.html
Moov330_CHN_Cobia_410R2 (ROM_V1.00.0013) http://www.4shared.com/file/nR5IlW69/Moov_330_Cobia_410R2_CHN_V1000.html

Moov360_EU (ROM_V1.00.0021) http://www.4shared.com/file/194369290/8e042cc8/Moov360_EU_ROM_V1000021.html

Moov370_EU(N179) (ROM_V1.00.0019_Cobia_T420_64_V_5.50.0212) http://www.4shared.com/file/YHquQBF3/Moov370_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
Moov370_CH (ROM_v1.00.0028) http://www.4shared.com/file/tXRehyE5/Moov_370_CH_ROM_v1000028.html

Moov500R2_EU (ROM_T510R2.V1.00.0003)_Poland http://www.4shared.com/file/ZD6JpoiC/Moov500R2_EU_ROM_T510R2V100000.html
Moov500R2_EU (ROM_T510R2.V1.00.0004) http://www.4shared.com/file/WwCG4uri/Moov500R2_EU_ROM_V1000004.html
Moov500R2_EU (ROM_T510R2.V1.00.0004)_Poland http://www.4shared.com/file/kRKNRijd/Moov500R2_EU_ROM_T510R2V100000.html
Moov500R2_EU (ROM_T510R2.V1.00.0010) http://www.4shared.com/file/J-drNInK/Moov500R2_EU_ROM_V1000010.html
Moov500R2_EU (ROM_T510R2.V1.00.0010)_Poland http://www.4shared.com/file/9oNo56XM/Moov500R2_EU_ROM_T510R2V100001.html
Moov500R2_NA (ROM_500R2NA.V1.9540.0012) http://www.4shared.com/file/194616656/765533d8/Moov500R2-NA_ROM_V195400012.html

Moov560R2_EU (ROM_T550R2.V1.00.0003) http://www.4shared.com/file/YO67nmO9/Moov560R2_EU_ROM_V1000003.html

Moov S401(N245)_EU (ROM_R04.00.0657.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/qSlo7dm0/Moov_S401_N245__EU_ROM_R040006.html

MoovS501_NA (ROM_SEEKER.R11.00.0657.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/-QE96stQ/MoovS501_NA_ROM_SEEKERR1100065.html

MoovS505_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R16.00.0773.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/237769132/9a9763b1/MoovS505_EU_ROM_SEEKERR1600077.html
MoovS505_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R12.00.0669.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/c6BYyNTV/MoovS505_EU_ROM_SEEKERR1200066.html

MoovS568_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R20.00.0844.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/237280467/3b4c1c8/MoovS568_EU_ROM_SEEKERR2000084.html

Moov_M300(N254)_EU_Croatia (ROM_R02.00.0766.STF64M) http://www.4shared.com/file/4yYzii76/Moov_M300_N254__EU_cr_ROM_R020.html
Moov_M300(N254)_EU_Poland (ROM_R02.00.0766.STF64M) http://www.4shared.com/file/qjhNeC-5/Moov_M300_N254__EU_pl_ROM_R020.html
Moov_M300(N254)_EU (ROM_R02.00.0766.STF64M) http://www.4shared.com/file/anef1bOv/Moov_M300_N254__EU_ROM_R020007.html

MoovM400_NA (ROM_R09.00.0896.STF64M) http://www.4shared.com/file/pIMu0bsx/Moov_M400_NA_R09000896STF64M.html
MoovM400 (ROM_R03.00.0775.STF64M) http://www.4shared.com/file/proiHqRc/Moov_M400_R03000775STF64M.html
MoovM400 Plus FEU (ROM_R09.00.0930.64M) http://www.4shared.com/file/sqtuCSj-/Moov_M400FEU_R0900093064M.html

Custom/Recovery firmwares (Those firmwares have AppStartupPri.exe replaced with fileManCE.exe):
Moov200u_FEU (Cobia300_R07_0201 RAM64 MLC 2G) (ROM_V1.00.0018) http://www.4shared.com/file/ZVxr2Paw/M200C30064_FEU_V1000018_modifi.html
Moov310_NA (ROM_COBIAT400.V1.00.0015) http://www.4shared.com/file/0CAO_rwy/M310C_T400_NA_V1000015_modifie.html
Moov500_EU (ROM_COBIAT510R2.V1.00.0010) http://www.4shared.com/file/EjbF8cxN/M500C50064_EU_V1000010_modifie.html
M series has also the appstartupsec.ini ...
Moov_M400 (ROM_R03.00.0775.STF64M) http://www.4shared.com/file/pIuuoZ7R/M_M400_R03000775STF64M_modifie.html


Not confirmed ! Should be Moov but the software ask for Navman: (use it carefull ....)
Moov_M300(N254)- Ex Yugoslavia 'Adriatic'(ROM_R00.00.1029.64M) http://www.4shared.com/file/ovARP6-J/Moov_M300_Adriatic_R0000102964.html

For the spirit (MIO Moov S568), after flashing the firmware, the software can be reinstalled with the current latest version downloadable at:
https://register.navman.com/installer/?BRANDNAME=mio&HARDWARENAME=SEEKER_FT525&SKUID=9248&DISPLAYNAME=Moov%20S568&LANGUAGE=en-US&DEVICEVERSION=6.10

For the Moov 370, after flashing the firmware, the software can be reinstalled with the current latest version downloadable at:
https://register.navman.com/installer/?BRANDNAME=mio&HARDWARENAME=SEEKER_FT525&SKUID=9248&DISPLAYNAME=Moov%20370

Other ROMS

Navman M300 (ROM_R02.00.0766.STF64M) http://www.4shared.com/file/t_aYKbvo/Navman_M300_EU_ROM_R02000766ST.html

NAVMAN S30 (ROM_S30.V1.00.0004) http://www.4shared.com/file/NlIRbiL3/Navman_S30.html
NAVMAN S50 (ROM_S50.V1.00.0016) http://www.4shared.com/file/2jP6rYIC/S50_ROM_S50v1000016.html
NAVMAN S55 (ROM_S55.V1.00.0005) http://www.4shared.com/file/P1B5zciI/S55_ROM_S55V1000005.html
NAVMAN S75 (ROM_V1.00.0002) http://www.4shared.com/file/pQXicU6v/Navman_S75_EU_ROM_V1000002.html
NAVMAN S80 (ROM_S80.v1.50.0011) http://www.4shared.com/file/z4PFwyW6/S80_ROM_S80v1500011.html
NAVMAN S90i (ROM_S90i.v1.00.0019) http://www.4shared.com/file/4iZQmoty/S90i_ROM_S90iv1000019.html


Medion P4420 (ROM_MDPNAP4420TR12) http://www.4shared.com/file/wFLatmx7/Medion_P4420_MDPNAP4420TR12.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/IAX1DEED/Medion_MDPNAE413XTR09.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/56ttb3vM/Medion_MDPNAE423XTR09.html

Navman F200T (ROM_F200T.V1.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/Gz2b41ju/Navman_F200T.html


banneris reported (page 121) reported a Moov_M400 recovery (with wrong paths.xml configuration), switching RESET button ...
============================================================================================================

1. I emptied battery completely (If device is working you may turn on route simulation)
2. Connect Mio with USB cable with PC, with switch on RESET position
3. Now comes a series of fast switching ON/OFF, do it couple of times but make sure the screen is on during your switch is off, it takes about a second then turn the switch ON, then OFF, then ON ....
4. Why? Well I am not sure in this but it behaves similar as you turn your PC on and then hit the brake button.
5. How long? Well, in my case, until you reach the point when your PC recognize the device. The moment takes a second and disappears, but if you are lucky and catch the moment, your Mio screen will be frozen but you'll see the device mounted!!! Then you may fix paths.xml or whatever you did before...

btw I dont think that the bat should be empty.... nonsense I know... I hope it will work for some of you...
============================================================================================================

Replies:


Reply author: ste
Replied on: 08 Jul 2009 07:39:51
Message:

g_alin, wow!

This topic should have been here for a long time, and at last - you've done it. Congratulations an thank you!

Just a short note on your "WARNING: NEVER TRY TO UPGRADE UBOOT." I had to upgrade uboot once to be able to reflash from Rsomething (Rus) to R48 (US), and it was simple - just having necessary files and choosing menu option.

Again, thanks a lot for all your help you provide on gpspassion.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 08 Jul 2009 18:29:06
Message:

ste,
every WARNING has his EXCEPTION ... If is imperative to upgrade ... than do it. But I only want to say that: if is not really necessary don't play with uboot. Is very dangerous and every mistake may put you (or everyone) into an unpleasant situation :( .


Reply author: ste
Replied on: 18 Jul 2009 10:07:07
Message:

g_alin,

an amateur question: are we closer now to being able to reflash WinCE device like Mio PNA to Win Mobile?

Theoretically, I do not understand why we can't. But, as I said, it's a point of view of an ignorant person like me.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 Jul 2009 23:27:18
Message:

ste, you an ignorant person !? ... NEVER :) .
The answer to your question is NO. We are far away from that point.
To understand why is that I will tell you (in short form) 'who' is responsible to 'what'.
The OS has three major components: Kernel, drivers and the 'rest of the OS'.
1. Kernel is a combination between Microsoft code and Samsung code (in our case). Maybe even Mitac has some custom software (if they choose to change the standard platform from Samsung to cost down the solution).
2. drivers is a combination between Microsoft code (for standard drivers like USB Mass Storage ...) and Samsung code (in our case - for dedicated drivers I2C, SDCard, USBFN ...) and maybe even Mitac can have his own drivers for devices added by them (if they choose to change the platform - 'changing the platform' => are many components that can be changed: audio codec - I2S, touch pad driver ...)
3. the 'rest of the OS' Microsoft code (platform builder sources) and Samsung CPU Platform (SMDK2440A).
I only have Platform Builder 5.0 (can be downloaded from Microsoft 90 days Free Trial) and a standard SMDK2440A platform (but not the platform used by Mitac !!!). There are many 'unknown variables' that have to be fixed before, in order for my to build even a wince 5.0 complete image. For the Mobile version ... is almost impossible. I think even Mitac doesn't have the WM 5.0 or WM 6.0 compatible sources for drivers of this platform ... specially because was designed to work with wince 5.0 (wince 6.0 ... later on).
Anyway if some one have or know how to find the platform used by Mitac to build those images I am open to build an image and test that image (on my C220_NA).

Let me tell you what I have right now ... Because I want to add new components in firmware the only option that I had was to split the ROM in tiny (small) primarily elements.
Change those elements (by replacing or by adding some files).
After that packing those elements back and making a firmware upgrade file (winceimg.bin).
The software is in an alpha stage right now ... but if someone is interested to find out more details please let me know. I will provide it to anyone interested with all the necessary files (also sources and exes - VB 6.0 SP5). But please be aware that you need to have ROM layout knowledge to be able to do something with that software. So if you used dumprom.exe and you understood the output text generated than you are a good candidate to test/use the software otherwise you should start with cmonex's site www.hpcmonex.net ... and only after that I recommend you to start using this software.


Reply author: tgg2k
Replied on: 22 Jul 2009 15:27:40
Message:

hello to everybody... I'm back

g_alin, I forgot to backup my ROM and tried to flash my C250 using one of your image files... guess what happened, after the final restart, all i get is a white screen and no response from the unit. I can still upgrade/downgrade the firmware... and of course, stupid me I didn't make a backup of my original firmware... did you ever encountered this?! do you happen to have a Eastern Europe firmware for c250?!


Reply author: krisvw
Replied on: 22 Jul 2009 18:46:58
Message:

g_alin,

As I told you some time ago I have a Mio C710 that doesn't work anymore.
Now I found someone with a mio c710 to take an image from.
But the diskrw i have, doesn't work.
Do you have a diskrw for a wince4.2 device?

thanx,

krisvw


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 22 Jul 2009 19:11:36
Message:

tgg2k,
I encountered that ... when I upgrade my C220_NA with a C250 firmware the screen was 'black' all the time. So I realize that the hardware is different (even if they have the same CPU). Anyway for C250 I have two fw.: MioMap3 (http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/C250_EEU_ROM_R03.zip) and for MioMap2008 (If you need also this one let me know ;) ). The MioMap2008 has less components than MioMap3; so I see no reason to upgrade (is more like a downgrade) to MioMap2008 fw.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Jul 2009 01:07:31
Message:

krisvw,
I don't think there is a DiscRW especially for CE4.2.
try this one:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/DiskRW.rar
there is also bkondisk:
check this thread:
http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=82603&whichpage=2


Reply author: tgg2k
Replied on: 23 Jul 2009 10:55:56
Message:

g_alin, worked like a charm!!!

i can go back to modifying it... :D


Reply author: krisvw
Replied on: 23 Jul 2009 13:22:57
Message:

g_alin,

The diskrw soft doesn't work.
The windows opens, but there are no controls on it.

When i check with "ExecutabilityCheck" it sais: commctrl.dll and aygshell.dll can't be loaded.

I tried with different versions of these dll's, but no success.

With bkondisk i get an .img file.
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/bk_04_000a.zip

How do you create the needed .bin file?
Can you extract the .bin file?
For the moment I'm testing with a C510 but next week I will have the C710 to do the real stuff.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Jul 2009 22:04:03
Message:

tgg2k, good to know that you managed to load the new fw.
krisvw, I don't know if I will extract it right; but definitely I will try. (No warranty ... this is my first CE4.2 extracted ...).
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/winceimg_C510.zip
I didn't made the cks file but use the DNW with USB connection ... for testing purpose. You can try it on your C710 ... should work (maybe without some features ...).
Let me know the result.


Reply author: krisvw
Replied on: 23 Jul 2009 22:29:13
Message:

g_alin,

I've installed it and it works.
Tomorow I will test it some more.

Normaly on sunday I will receive the C710 from my friend and then I will try to extract the image and post it here.
Then if you want you can try to extract it.

And hopefully I can recover my C710.

Thanx.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Jul 2009 23:17:36
Message:

krisvw,
Can you check the ROM version please? I would like to provide that information for other users interested to upgrade the C510.


Reply author: krisvw
Replied on: 24 Jul 2009 07:02:47
Message:

The ROM version is: R35F.3.126.0711

Its an english version only.
The C710 will be a full european version.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 24 Jul 2009 16:34:17
Message:

To make the Collection more compleet
i have made an img.file from my Mio Moov 330 With SMFlash.

It's the Euro SmartST version V1.00.0019 Cobia_410_64 v5.50.0208.

Link:http://www.Gpspassion/upload2/Moov330 SmartST (Cobia_410_64 v5.50.0208) SMFlash_0_26214400.zip

Link is long copy and paste it in a new page!

Greetings Kener


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 24 Jul 2009 19:43:48
Message:

kener,
Thank you. Your SMFlash is first MOOV version that i have seen (so far).
The internal format is the same (lake Cxxx series): XIPKERNEL + CHAIN + XIP (named NK by Mitac).
Nobody confirmed that the UPGRADE screen is accessible (or is not accessible) to MOOV series ... Did you tried to unlock the "blue screen" (UPGRADE SCREEN) for your device? It is very important to know that ... otherwise even if I extract the winceimg.bin file you are not going to be able to load it in your device (... in case that your device is malfunctioning; when you'll want to use the backup - made by me ...).
Let me know the result ... :)
BTW: You should now that, what you are doing is dangerous. Please be careful!


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 24 Jul 2009 20:25:00
Message:

Think that i will try it ,but not today.
looks like the file's mortscript.exe/mioautorun.exe and mioautorun.mscr
need to be in a folder Cobia_410_64 on the sdcard (like in Miopocket)
and need to be renamed as Auto.exe and Auto.mscr

Kener



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 24 Jul 2009 20:44:31
Message:

kener,
Yes ... you're right. Make a copy of the folder Mantas405A43_EEU (already have inside the files renamed to Auto.exe/Auto.mscr) and rename it to Cobia_410_64 (instructions from MioPocket are very good for the purpose ... ;) ).
When ever you have time ... take your time ... and stay calm ... (I always do mistakes when I am too exited ;) )


Reply author: tskitishvili
Replied on: 24 Jul 2009 23:28:28
Message:

Hello Alin,

I'm very interested in rom cooking for my Magellan 3225. So far I was able to get the wince dump from the device using DiscRW and extract files from it using dumprom.

One of my goals is to replace coredll.dll with the one I built using wince sdk. Currently I use my version of coredll by renaming it into coredl_ patching every application which requires API missing in original dll.
My second goal is to add wince files missing in Magellan image.

Could you provide the instructions and your software to generate wince image for flashing?

Best regards


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 25 Jul 2009 00:22:50
Message:

tskitishvili,
I good to know that "we are two" ... now.
Your goal is ... for now ... not available in my software. Replacing coredll is one of the most ambitious goals (that I imagine ...).
Adding a 'fake' coredll (named coredl_ ... or what ever you prefer) is only applicable to a limited set o changes ... that can be implemented.
Because I don't know your 'wince level' I don't know exactly the 'starting level' ...
OK. Some questions:
1. Are you able to access 'blue screen' (upgrade screen)?
2. Can you tell me the format for winceimg.bin file? (do you have an example)?
(usually there are two versions: NB0 (or RAW) and B000F)
3. do you have Visual Studio 6.0? or do you prefer to receive the *.exe file?
For now the software (when is working ... ) is able to:
- delete files and modules
- add files
Is better to not try to change XIPKERNEL ... has many limitations ...
Let me 'frees' the software to a usable version and I will provide you everything you need to be able to use it.
Can you provide me the SMFlash to test it first? This way I will be able to change the software (if is necessary). You should know that I made the software only using Mio C220 / C320 SMFlash.img. And Maestro could be a little different ... is easily for me to fit the software to the SMFlash.img format ...


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 25 Jul 2009 11:04:37
Message:

g_alin

After reading the readme.txt i think that the steps 1 to 9 will work but
I found one Big problem in step 10
the Moov do not have a Power button ,there is just a switch with the 3 options

Reset (power off) / Off (sleep mode)/On

The only thing to get it to work is to make a button on the touchscreen to use the menu.

i will take a look inside the device to see off an hardware button can be added to the pcb.
(the navman S serie do have a power button)

Then for the topic starter i think you need to tell hou to upload a file or place a link to the Faq.

Edit:
ok did have a look inside , on the backside off the pcb there are
beside the usb connector on the outside off pcb 7 free pads i think it are
2 outputs/1 ground/and 3 or 4 inputs (one looks like not connected)
maybe someone think diferent about this have a look for yourself and give some reply.
photo:
http://www.Gpspassion/upload2/pcb moov330 backside.JPG
copy link and paste in new page!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 25 Jul 2009 17:49:48
Message:

kener,
we'll see Monday. That's one of the JTAGs.

LE: Question: When you turn off your device (move the switch to OFF) it turns off instantly or after 0.3 ... 0.5 seconds?


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 26 Jul 2009 11:15:44
Message:

The moov turns off instantly
I see no delay at all.

For jtag i find the placing off the pads very odd.
But on the front side off the pcb there is NO jtag
for so far i can see.


Reply author: krisvw
Replied on: 27 Jul 2009 18:57:16
Message:

g_alin,

As promised, the image recovered with bkondisk from a european Mio C710.
The ROM version is R33F.2.112.517

It would be very apreciated if you could extract the bin-file? :-)

http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/bk_04_000a.zip

Thanx.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Jul 2009 19:04:34
Message:

kener,
Usually there are two JTAGs on the GPS board: One to CPLD and one to S3C244X (CPU).
But for sure has to be a simpler way to upgrade the wince ...
Maybe that switch is not a 'disconnect' switch ... maybe is a 'soft' connection switch (same like C220). The only difference may be the fact that for hardware reset at C220 you have to press 10 seconds the button power and for this one you have to switch to RESET position.
From the picture I see that the switch has to positions: LEFT (connects pins from left side) and RIGHT (connects pins from right side). The middle side is a 'no connection' from both sides.
The only option is to try ... supposition can be done years from now ... anyway there is no warranty that is working or not until you try.
Only one thing I want to add: when GPS starts in UPGRADE mode buttons function may change drastically. Because all functions are done 'soft' (by making a connection) and not 'hard' (by disconnecting power supply) - theoretically any button may be programmed to do any function ... its only a matter of software ...
Take a look at the information that I have for C320 series (regarding JTAG) http://www.Gpspassion/upload2/MIO_x20_Jtag.zip

BTW: If you want to have the link recognized don't use SPACE character in your file name ;)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Jul 2009 19:36:45
Message:

krisvw,
This is a EUROPE C710 version (probably those times where only one firmware version for all Europe regions ... )
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/C710_ENG_ROM_R33F.2.112.517.zip
Let me know if it works ;)


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 27 Jul 2009 20:17:07
Message:

g_alin
I think you are right with the switch.
Will give it a try this week when I have a lot off time for it.

thanks for the jtag info.


Reply author: krisvw
Replied on: 27 Jul 2009 20:33:54
Message:

g-alin,

OK, it works.
I'll test it more the next day's.

Thanx again.


Reply author: tskitishvili
Replied on: 28 Jul 2009 06:53:47
Message:

Hello Alin,

I can write and compile programs for WinCE (SMDK2410 platform which is quite close to the one Magellan uses in their devices).

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin
1. Are you able to access 'blue screen' (upgrade screen)?



Yes. I can access menu you are referring to by holding reset and power buttons. Although only top header line is blue :). It offers choices : Information, Format HDD, Update OS, Update OS (Format HDD), Update Boot loader, Update Boot loader (Erase flash).

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin
2. Can you tell me the format for winceimg.bin file? (do you have an example)?



Here is complete 3225 ROM I got with DiscRW:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/magellan3225rom.zip

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin
3. do you have Visual Studio 6.0? or do you prefer to receive the *.exe file?



I prefer source code which I can modify if needed. But exe is also ok in the beginning.


Reply author: krisvw
Replied on: 28 Jul 2009 19:21:09
Message:

g_alin,

To activate the blue screen on the C310, C510 and C710, you must do the following.
- Set the ON/OFF-switch to OFF. (located at the right bottom.
- While pushing the sound-minus-button and the screen-on-off-button at the right site of the device, set the ON/OFF-switch to ON.
- Keep pushing the other 2 buttons until you get the blue screen.
- to scroll over the items in the blue screen, push the sound-plus-button.
- to select an item, push the sound-min-button.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 28 Jul 2009 19:45:20
Message:

g_alin
made an empty sdcard with your file's
put the start file's in cobia_410_64 folder
set moov on reset position an put in the sdcard

First tryout: start the moov first miomap 2008 (smartst) starts and i get a message box (on background still miomap)
asking me "unlock upgrade yes no" choice is yes
message box close and 2 sec later restarts again.(on background still miomap)
again put in a yes and then the moov freeze(also miomap) waiting several min. to give it some time
then hardreset to restart moov

Second tryout : start the moov first miomap 2008 (smartst) starts and i get a message box (on background still miomap)
asking me "unlock upgrade yes no" choice is yes
message box close and 2 sec later restarts again.(on background still miomap)
again put in a yes and then message box goes away nothing happend miomap just works

so for now no luck any ideas.
maybe find out how it works for navman.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Jul 2009 21:00:52
Message:

@krisvw - Do you think those instructions are enough for someone (unexperienced) to perform the upload? (this is the read-me file for Cx10 users ... :) )

tested on devices:
1. Mio C310
2. Mio C510
3. Mio C710

INSTRUCTIONS:

1. download galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip and winceimg.zip
2. unzip those archives
3. to enter into the blue screen on the C310, C510 and C710, you must do the following.
- Set the ON/OFF-switch to OFF. (located at the right bottom.
- While pushing the sound-minus-button and the screen-on-off-button at the right site of the device, set the ON/OFF-switch to ON.
- Keep pushing the other 2 buttons until you get the blue screen.
- to scroll over the items in the blue screen, push the sound-plus-button.
- to select an item, push the sound-min-button.
4. connect GPS to PC (using an USB cable)
5. a new hardware will be found ... you should choose "Advanced ..." and point the PC to install driver from folder galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip\PC\SEC_SOC_driver (alternatively if complains that "there is no compatible driver" you can try also galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip\PC\SEC_SOC_driver_other)
6. After install you should see on display that GPS received an USB address .. or something like that ...
If it didn't received an address there are two possible problems:
- You where to slow (that menu has a time out) -> Disconnect your GPS from USB and go to step 4.
- Your USB is not 100% compatible -> Use a USB hub (try 1.1 first and 2.0 after)
7. start DNW.exe from galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip\PC\DNW
8. Check if on the form blue upper side there is written "USB : OK" ... that will show you that DNW is connected to GPS
9. Go to menu USB Transmit \ Transmit \ Transmit ... select winceimg.bin extracted from winceimg.zip (downloaded previously)
10. WAIT ... the procedure will last about 1 min. check the GPS screen and after you see restart wait for another minute (to be sure that upgrade finished).
11. Power OFF the GPS
12. Disconnect USB cable from PC
13. Power up device (press more than 12 sec. power button)
14. Now you should see a window that ask you to connect the GPS to PC. Insert the recovery CD and perform the GPS recovery.

@tskitishvili - Your SMFlash is different (B000F) than Mio Cxx0 series (RAW or NB0).
here is the software:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/g_alin_RomMasterCE5_v.1.8.0.zip
and an image of C220:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/g_alin_SMFlash_C220.zip

we'll figure out later how to import/export the SMFlash in B000F format ... for now you can do that manually B000F to NB0; use my software; convert XIPKERNEL.bin, Chain.bin and XIP.bin from NB0 to B000F and perform upgrade.

some instructions:

If you run the software in debug (step by step) you get a strange error "expression too complex" (that is only in debug mode ... the exe will not do that) ... I can't tell you why ... but to move forward press Debug and after that F5 (Run) ... and will run ... strange but that's the behavior on my PC.
If you uncheck the Decompress modules and files will run faster ...
If you use a real image (from a Mio GPS ... other than C220) change the RAMMAP and ImageMAP values (or you can check in the combobox (close to Save button) if is saved there ... settings are stored in Settings.ini).
The real images can be converted directly to winceimg.bin (the NB0 format!!!)
In the bottom side you'll find a Compressor / Decompressor CE (is rudimentary but works ...). will provide you also the size (compressed for Compression function) ... you have to provide that for decompression (I think ... I am not sure ... can be checked in sources ... ;) )
Check RAM MAP is generating a file RAMMAP.txt ... also if there are overlappings is going to insert a "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" line ... so use CTRL + F and "!!!!!!!!!!!!" for fast check ...
There is also the Change button that let you change (delete/add) into a specific ROM (XIPKERNEL or XIP ... for now)
Also paths are (some of them) hard codded in text files ... use "C:\Kit\RomMasterCE5\" to be sure you have the same path like me.

LE: here http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/RomMasterCE5_Settings.zip you can find the Settings.ini file with the settings for Maestro 3225 (last from the list) Anyway the extraction is working well but the repacking (to bin files) has some staff missing (related to B000F format ... probably). Do the comparison, by your self, to see the differences between SMFlash.img (from Maestro) and BIN files after repacking.


Reply author: krisvw
Replied on: 28 Jul 2009 21:42:02
Message:

I will test this procedure and let you know.
I have done the update with the .bin and .cks file on the sd-card.
I find it less complicated.
- You start with point 3. to enter the blue ...
- Then you put in the sd-card containing .bin and .cks file.
- you select 0 = WINCE Upgrade (push sound-min to select)
- you select 1 = WINCE by SD/MMC (push sound-min to select)

- You wait until you receive the message to restart your device (Set ON/OFF switch to OFF and then to ON)
- Thats all.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 Jul 2009 18:52:53
Message:

kener,
I don't know why but is obvious that is not working for that platform (Navman aka. Moov).
Interesting is that you can't press Reset and PowerUp in the same time (most of the PDA/PNA with reset have this option to enter in upgrade mode if you press Reset and some other button(s) in the same time).
Do you see any way to press Reset and PowerUp in the same time?
You can try other tricks like: I see three possible parameters PowerUp, SDCard and USB connection. Any combination of those parameters or fast switch between Reset and PowerUp ... use your imagination ... any of those combination may end up in the Upgrade screen.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 29 Jul 2009 19:57:04
Message:

g_alin

Can you make an winceimg.bin and .cks from the SMFlash file i send you
to tryout what is happening as the are on an sdcard and i do a powerup.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 Jul 2009 22:25:36
Message:

kener,
assuming that your bootloader understand the nb0 format (aka. RAW format) here is the winceimg.bin (and cks) files.
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/MOOV300_winceimg.zip (was a point after link ... )
You should know also that bootloaders are not very smart at understanding the FAT format ... I had this problem ones ... after formating a SDCard in winXP was not recognized by bootloader. To be sure that is recognized by bootloader maybe I should make an image of one of my SDCards (a small one ... maybe 256M or 512M) and you should 'write' that image to you SDCard. This way you'll have the same 'image' of the card with me ... and you'll not have this problem. (Is something related to the boot has to be at Hx245 ... or something like that ...). Anyway if you have a 512M (or 1G) and you want me to make a SDCard image, let me know and I will do that.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 30 Jul 2009 19:35:24
Message:

g_alin
Sorry but your link is Not working.
I am thinking off trying your image for the sdcard (have an empty one off 1G) but one step at a time.
If you need it i can give you in a ftp link by pm.



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Jul 2009 19:43:42
Message:

kener,
I fixed the link ... BTW: You can't receive PM ... set your email to be seen by others (or send me an PM).


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 31 Jul 2009 17:50:40
Message:

g_alin
I Fixed my email
Did tryout the winceimg on an empty sdcard nothing worked.
For the power switch i did findout that the on and off position
do nothing in the first 15 sec when i get it on from the reset position.
So it is a soft switch that only works after startup.
In that 15 seconds i did switch several time's from on to off to get it in the program mode.(nothing worked)



Reply author: tskitishvili
Replied on: 31 Jul 2009 22:45:50
Message:

g_alin

I cannot send you PM. When I try, the forum software tells me: "You are not permitted to post emails to other Members".


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 01 Aug 2009 00:26:07
Message:

tskitishvili,
You have to set your email to be seen by others ... only after that you can send PM :) . If doesn't work after you do that, contact a Moderator / Administrator.


Reply author: gardavis
Replied on: 02 Aug 2009 20:45:13
Message:

I am attempting an upgrade of my wife's C220 and followed the instructions in the first post of this thread
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=127723

I used the readme info:

....
21. Go to menu USB Transmit \ Transmit \ Transmit ... select winceimg.bin extracted from winceimg.zip (downloaded previously)
22. WAIT ... the procedure will last about 1 min. check the GPS screen and after you see restart wait for another minute (to be sure that upgrade finished).
23. Press the Power button more than 12 sec. (to perform a hardware RESET - but don't power up ...)
24. Remove SDCard from GPS
25. Disconnect USB cable from PC
26. Power up device (press more than 12 sec. power button)
27. Now you should see a window that ask you to connect the GPS to PC. Insert the recovery CD and perform the GPS recovery.
28. (after you power up the GPS) insert SDCard
29. After application starts press NormalUser button

I did not see the connect message in step #27. Instead, I see the desktop with My Device, Recycle Bin and desktop icons and a start bar.

I connect the USB to the PC, it showed that it saw new hardware OK but I do not see the device as a drive in Explorer as I thought I would.

Also, what GPS Recovery is step #27 talking about?

Also, step #28 - which SDCard, the original or the one with the upgrade files? I assume the upgrade - it displays the popup but I am not sure what to do here.

Step #29 - what application is this?

So I am a bit stumped as to how to proceed from here. I put the maps SDcard back in and used My Device to browse to the MioMap executable in the Flash Disk and run it. It runs OK but the upgrade start bar is in the way of the GPS software when clicking on the bottom of the screen.

There are so many upgrades and procedures like the one described in this thread for the Mio C220 that I am a bit confused, as you can tell.

Thanks,


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 04 Aug 2009 02:12:37
Message:

gardavis,
"I did not see the connect message in step #27. Instead, I see the desktop with My Device, Recycle Bin and desktop icons and a start bar." ->
To be more precise: Only if you formated the My Flash Disk is going to ask you to perform a recovery (because is going to see that you don't have the navigation software on the GPS).
I see that you choose to use one of my custom ROMs :) .
"I connect the USB to the PC, it showed that it saw new hardware OK but I do not see the device as a drive in Explorer as I thought I would." ->
That component is called "USB Mass Storage" ans is not implemented on any firmware (that I know) for C220. maybe later ...
"Also, what GPS Recovery is step #27 talking about?" ->
The CD that came with your device (on your package).
"Also, step #28 - which SDCard, the original or the one with the upgrade files? I assume the upgrade - it displays the popup but I am not sure what to do here"->
Yes. Is the upgrade SDCard.
"Step #29 - what application is this?"
I am talking about the UPGRADE unlocker application ... same one used to when you press the SuperUser button; but now you have to press StadardUser Button - to lock the UPGRADE option.
"So I am a bit stumped as to how to proceed from here. I put the maps SDcard back in and used My Device to browse to the MioMap executable in the Flash Disk and run it. It runs OK but the upgrade start bar is in the way of the GPS software when clicking on the bottom of the screen."
This is a BUG (if can be called like that) ... I will try to fix it on my next Desktop release. Probably I a will hide the taskbar when you double click on the Navication.lnk icon (from desktop) ... assuming that you used the Desktop 3.
"There are so many upgrades and procedures like the one described in this thread for the Mio C220 that I am a bit confused, as you can tell."
LE: BTW: if you prefer the original firmware try to use ROM:8.3 ... is the 'most complete one' (from wince components point of view).

As a general rule: when you report something please make sure you specify your device model / region and firmware used.

kener,
You have three positions and four pins ... probably in one position is connecting pin1 with pin2 and on the other position is connecting pin3 with pin4 and finally in one position is not connecting anything. Can you check that? easiest way I see is to measure voltage on every pin of the connector (referred to GND) on any of the positions of the switch. In my opinion if you do Reset and PowerOn in the same time you may enter into bootloader (same like many magellan models).


Reply author: gardavis
Replied on: 04 Aug 2009 06:05:06
Message:

Thanks for the detailed answer. It's very helpful. I am still learning and tinkering.

Gary


Reply author: laserdoktor
Replied on: 04 Aug 2009 22:20:16
Message:

@ g_alin
Thank you very very much. You saved my Mio C520.
With your instructions i culd fix the GPS.
Again, thanks a lot for all your great job.


Reply author: zer0en
Replied on: 07 Aug 2009 13:24:12
Message:

Hallo,
After trying to update my mio moove 330 with the official update, nothing works anymore. I found on a forum a manual from mio thats says to format the flash disk, wich I did, and then miomore desktop would be able to restore the original configuration. Maybe You guest it already, miomore desktop does nothing. So I was very pleased to find your image file on this forum. The only problem is, how do i get the image on my mio. I tried DNW but the message says "Can't open USB device" altough the flash and sd disk are showing in windows explorer and i can acces them. Can You help me out here?

Greetings,
Julien

quote:
Originally posted by kener

To make the Collection more compleet
i have made an img.file from my Mio Moov 330 With SMFlash.

It's the Euro SmartST version V1.00.0019 Cobia_410_64 v5.50.0208.

Link:http://www.Gpspassion/upload2/Moov330 SmartST (Cobia_410_64 v5.50.0208) SMFlash_0_26214400.zip

Link is long copy and paste it in a new page!

Greetings Kener



Reply author: gardavis
Replied on: 07 Aug 2009 16:55:05
Message:

I accidentally wiped my flash drive and that prevented me from entering the Mio software (settings icon worked but not the navigation icon which was gray'd out).

I scrounged around and found the recovery CD and copied the install folder into a MioMap folder I created in the flash drive and that got it back to working. The recovery USB connection did not work. I had PocketMio on an SD card which has some Explorer tools which I used to copy the folder (Recovery to SD to flash).

Gary Davis


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 07 Aug 2009 21:17:53
Message:

Julien (zer0en),
until now we don't know how to enter into 'upgrade mode'.
If you see your My Flash Disk (HDD) and your SDCard when you connect your GPS to PC, then your GPS (virtually) works. But what do you see on the GPS screen (before and after you connect it to PC)?
On most devices you need to press Reset and Power in the same time to enter in bootloader (upgrade mode) ... but in your case is ... hard to do that with a single button ... Some devices have a software that activate that menu ... (Mio C series). Anyway if you find a way to enter into the 'upgrade mode' let me know and I can try to extract the image from SMFlash.

gardavis,
I don't understand ... do you need any help or do you have any question?


Reply author: bigalli
Replied on: 08 Aug 2009 07:34:07
Message:

g_alin:
sorry for my english Is it possible to reflash my Mio Moov 200 (blue screen with update menu) with bacup created from another brand new Moov 200. If yes please tell me how to create backup
Thank you for your help


Reply author: zer0en
Replied on: 08 Aug 2009 11:45:03
Message:

Hallo,
thanks for your reply, I have reinstalled my pc (xp-pro + sp2) because i suspected corruption in the dotnet software and since miomore desktop use this....
But no change.
Now your question, when I am not connected to my PC I see 3 icons, a PC icon - an USB icon - and a PDA icon - also some lines indicating its trying to connect.
When I am connected to mij PC the same icons are showing but the lines indicate that there is a connection.
Thats all that is showing.
For the moment I am waiting for the battery to be exhausted since I saw on a forum that the reinstall with miomore desktop wil then work.
So I have great expectations :-).
Although the mio GPS works great the software that go's with it sucks.
Greetings,
Julien

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

Julien (zer0en),
until now we don't know how to enter into 'upgrade mode'.
If you see your My Flash Disk (HDD) and your SDCard when you connect your GPS to PC, then your GPS (virtually) works. But what do you see on the GPS screen (before and after you connect it to PC)?
On most devices you need to press Reset and Power in the same time to enter in bootloader (upgrade mode) ... but in your case is ... hard to do that with a single button ... Some devices have a software that activate that menu ... (Mio C series). Anyway if you find a way to enter into the 'upgrade mode' let me know and I can try to extract the image from SMFlash.

gardavis,
I don't understand ... do you need any help or do you have any question?


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 08 Aug 2009 12:30:03
Message:

g_alin
Ok did open the case off the moov 330 again to take a look on the switch.
The switch are indeed 2 separed contacts.
On position is one closed contact.
Off position is none are closed.
Reset position is the second closed contact.
In this pos. there is i think a link to the cpu reset line.

zer0en
It's very easy to open the case off the moov.
Just unscrew the 4 screws on the undersite and then lift the backside above the usb connector.
Then you have acces to disconnect the battery.
This is faster than drainout the battery.

Then a little thing about the Moov update Europe (Smartst) I did this already
First register to mio advantage.
If you are ready with this then go to Products and take the choice Map Update's
In this page goto :Register your email adress with Mio Advantage
Then follow the steps from the Mio site
At the end you will get a Link to a download (Big .Iso file prox 1.4Gb)
with an Activation Key
(and an email to your Email adress from the Mio Advantage Registration)
After the download is ready You Need to Burn the .iso to an DVD.

The New maps must be activated with the use of Miomore software and the Activation Key.
For This you need the last version of Miomore so :Update the Miomore software First.
This can be found with the link thats in the Email the send to you.

DON'T format the disk it's no us at all.

bigalli
How did you get acces to the update menu that we all want to know.


Reply author: zer0en
Replied on: 08 Aug 2009 15:12:41
Message:

Hallo again,

The upgrade of MioMore Desktop started all my problems, but I tried your suggestion and this time on a fresh installed XP-pro PC. It was no use, after running the update i recieved a message saying I have to install MioMore desktop first in order to do the update, as it happens the first time. I tried over and over again, the update fails everytime and without the update it's impossible to reinstall.
With my version of miomore desktop I see only "mio online services", the possibility to back up and then restore(only the miomap), and the complete factory restore, wich does not work.
So finally I tried the thing with the battery also without any result.
The only option is, I think, to replace an image file and for that I need software that works on a PC and is able to write to a flash disk.

Best regards,

Julien

quote:
Originally posted by kener

g_alin
Ok did open the case off the moov 330 again to take a look on the switch.
The switch are indeed 2 separed contacts.
On position is one closed contact.
Off position is none are closed.
Reset position is the second closed contact.
In this pos. there is i think a link to the cpu reset line.

zer0en
It's very easy to open the case off the moov.
Just unscrew the 4 screws on the undersite and then lift the backside above the usb connector.
Then you have acces to disconnect the battery.
This is faster than drainout the battery.

Then a little thing about the Moov update Europe (Smartst) I did this already
First register to mio advantage.
If you are ready with this then go to Products and take the choice Map Update's
In this page goto :Register your email adress with Mio Advantage
Then follow the steps from the Mio site
At the end you will get a Link to a download (Big .Iso file prox 1.4Gb)
with an Activation Key
(and an email to your Email adress from the Mio Advantage Registration)
After the download is ready You Need to Burn the .iso to an DVD.

The New maps must be activated with the use of Miomore software and the Activation Key.
For This you need the last version of Miomore so :Update the Miomore software First.
This can be found with the link thats in the Email the send to you.

DON'T format the disk it's no us at all.

bigalli
How did you get acces to the update menu that we all want to know.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 08 Aug 2009 18:23:51
Message:

zer0en

ok first version of mio moov 330 do you have (show after reset)
i think v1.00.0019 (Smartst version) same as me?

Second do you still have acces to the moov drive's

Then the setup program for the software thats on the moov 330 come's from c://Program files/mio technologic/cobia_410_64
this after you did install the old miomore software ,try to run it.

then the miomore software the version i have on dvd
(out off the box)
is version 5.50.206 this i did install first (clean xp-sp2)
after this i did conect the mio moov to the pc and started miomore.
then i did some map change's with miomore (licence key will be also exchanged)
then i did do the miomore update to version 5.90.003.14
then put in the dvd with map upgrade and then conecting the mio moov
now you need to put in the activation key the send you
this will also be exchanged with the moov
now you can acces the new maps and put them on the device.
this did work by me in one time.
If the miomore software can not see the licence file's on the moov
you have no access to the maps.

succes Kener

PS : think we are al little bit Off topic here sorry for that.


Reply author: gardavis
Replied on: 08 Aug 2009 18:25:49
Message:

>> do you need any help or do you have any question?

No, I was just commenting.


Reply author: zer0en
Replied on: 08 Aug 2009 19:50:16
Message:

Hoi,

Sorry I am a bit confused here, I'l try to describe what I see and what happens.

First of all when I do a reset of my moov330:
-On a black screen, on top of it, appears the text
" Cobia410V1.00.0029 "
-After some time an orange screen appears with
" MIO tm - explore more - MioMap 2008 - some runnig points "
-After a while the moov restarts and the hole cycle begins again.

On my PC with xp-Explorer with the moov330 connected through USB, I see the flashdrive (+/- 940 mB) and the SD card (+/- 1940 mB) and i can acces them.

I installed MioMore Desktop on my PC in C:/Program Files/ Mio Technology, from the CD that was delivered with my moov330.

I received an email from Mio with a procedure and a key for an update
When I tried to update MioMore Desktop (v1.2.3.29) with the file i downloaded from Mio, the text appeared saying I should first install MioMore Desktop altough it was already installed. I downloaded also the map update, and since i could not update through MioMore Desktop I tried to copy the files manualy after clearing up some space on the flash disk (the update was to big). After resetting the moov330 i could not load the maps any more on my moov330 ( text= maps not properly installed).
So I tried with MioMore Desktop "reinstall the software of your mio" on the Tab "tools". Nothing happened.

I saw a manual on a forum coming from Mio that i should format (right click and format on the disk in xp-explorer on my pc) the flashdisk and the reinstall would then be possible. After i did that nothing happened again.

Since my flashdisk on the mio was now empty, i copied the files i found on my pc in c:/program Files/Mio Tecnology/MioMore Desktop/Cobia_520_64/9482/ in a zipped file named cobia_520_64, to my moov330 flashdisk.

When I now open the flashdisk (name = MIO DEVICE) with xp-explorer i see 1 maps and 3 files:
1-Programs Files - with the maps Common Files, Contacts, MioBT,
MioMap and Navman.
2-The files device.xml, paths.xml and version_cobia_520_64.ini.

The only thing that happens now is the continuing restart of the moov330, and when i connect it to the PC the 3 icons indicating that it is connected.

Best regards,

Julien

quote:
Originally posted by kener

zer0en

ok first version of mio moov 330 do you have (show after reset)
i think v1.00.0019 (Smartst version) same as me?

Second do you still have acces to the moov drive's

Then the setup program for the software thats on the moov 330 come's from c://Program files/mio technologic/cobia_410_64
this after you did install the old miomore software ,try to run it.

then the miomore software the version i have on dvd
(out off the box)
is version 5.50.206 this i did install first (clean xp-sp2)
after this i did conect the mio moov to the pc and started miomore.
then i did some map change's with miomore (licence key will be also exchanged)
then i did do the miomore update to version 5.90.003.14
then put in the dvd with map upgrade and then conecting the mio moov
now you need to put in the activation key the send you
this will also be exchanged with the moov
now you can acces the new maps and put them on the device.
this did work by me in one time.
If the miomore software can not see the licence file's on the moov
you have no access to the maps.

succes Kener

PS : think we are al little bit Off topic here sorry for that.



Reply author: kener
Replied on: 08 Aug 2009 20:36:40
Message:

g_alin

I found the next on a pools forum (peb)it's from apr 2009
looks like there must be a startup or autorun file on a sdcard
I did not find more info on this pools forum.

Next is a google translation:

Welcome
rozblokowa#322;em Mio Moov 200pl way that appears at this site (my panel).
I was doing everything according to the instructions and everything is working together with the map, which is on the SD card (as instructed)
And that this is the problem - namely, when you insert the card in memory card slot and move the switch to "reset" and go back on the blue background with the options ranging from 0 to 5, among others wince upgrade, gps tools, bt tools, uboot upgrade, memory tools, other tools... WinCE upgrade, GPS tools, bt tools, uboot upgrade, memory tools, other tools ... after removing the card and then reset everything is back to the proper state ...
What could be the reason?

zer0en

Looks like you have a Moov that run's the Mireo version
this is a different version than Smartst version i have.
Normaly the Mireo version is for the east europe region.
And im think that you need to correct the cobia version
as far as i know a moov 330 is always a cobia_410.
For the restart problem i did have seen some topic's
about that but do not know where.
Think it has to do with the appstartupsec.ini.

goodluck




Reply author: zer0en
Replied on: 09 Aug 2009 09:23:14
Message:

Thanks guys for all the help, I've learned a lot here.
Since this problem does not really belong in this forum
i'l try to start a new topic concerning the mio moov330 problems.
Any chance that somewone can mail me an iso file with the miomore desktop cd? Or software that can transfer the moov330 img file, that i downloaded, to my mio.
Thanks again

Best regards

Julien,

ps. the support section of mio sucks also


Reply author: Lino
Replied on: 10 Aug 2009 14:37:27
Message:

Hey g_alin,

first of all, thanks for your custom rom, it rules!!

I have some questions;
=> You have a SMDK2440A BSP (CE5)? Where did you find that?
=> Is there any chance you would want to share your MioC220.pbxml and the release dir? (I'm working on a custom taskbar, explorer and GWE (I would like to add XP style with embedded skin to your rom...)(embedded theme http://www.askvg.com/download-new-official-embedded-theme-for-windows-xp-and-2003-no-file-patching-required/)

Would be really thankful for your help :)
I have some stuff from Samsung, but I guess you have that to (if not, just ask for the link):

S3C44B0
File type Rev # Size Updated date
User's Manual 1MB 2009/06/02
Application Notes (SMDK44B0) 3MB 2008/01/14
Errata 201KB 2008/01/14
schematics (SMDK41100) 130KB 2008/01/14
IBIS model 17KB 2008/01/14
44BMON ROM downloader program 33KB 2008/01/14
DNW 26KB 2008/01/14
BSDL(JTAG) file 3KB 2008/01/14
work around 126KB 2008/01/14
Test Program 502KB 2008/01/14
ADW script file 391B 2008/01/14
ADW initialization script file 277B 2008/01/14
IBIS model 15KB 2008/01/14
WKCOM2 19KB 2008/01/14
FRATE 51KB 2008/01/14
PLLSET 19KB 2008/01/14
ARM SDT 2.50 patch file 178KB 2008/01/14

S3C2410
File type Rev # Size Updated date
User's Manual 1.1 3MB 2008/01/14
Application Note 7MB 2008/01/14
RTC Notice (If RTC isn't used) XTIrtc has to be High (1.8V) 12KB 2008/01/14
Schematic for 2410TK 1.11 218KB 2008/01/14
I/O Buffer Information Specification (IBIS) File 54KB 2008/01/14
Buffer Chip Source Code (SMDK2410) 77KB 2008/01/14
USB downloader firware and win98/me/2000/XP device driver 1MB 2008/01/14
NAND Boot Loader Source Program 79KB 2008/01/14
Soft Reset sample code and manual 30KB 2008/01/14
DNW 26KB 2008/01/14
BSDL(JTAG) file 5KB 2008/01/14
ARM920T Technical Reference Manual 1MB 2008/01/14
Power on Reset Guide 22KB 2008/01/14
S3C2410X to S3C2410A Revision Points 80KB 2008/01/14
OSC Spec for S3C2410A 146KB 2008/01/14
I/O ports Notice (About GPE14 and GPE15) 16KB 2008/01/14
SEC JTAG Flash 4.0 656KB 2008/01/14
Schematics (SMDK2410) 1.3 289KB 2008/01/14
Application Note for IIC, IIS 122KB 2008/01/14
Application Note for 2410TK 2MB 2008/01/14
Board Test Program (SMDK2410) 1MB 2008/01/14
Test Code for 2410TK 2MB 2008/01/14
ADW initialization script file 271B 2008/01/14
WKCOM2 2.92 19KB 2008/01/14
FRATE 0.11 51KB 2008/01/14
PLLSET 1.21 19KB 2008/01/14
ARM SDT 2.50 patch file 2.50 178KB 2008/01/14

S3C2440
File type Rev # Size Updated date
User's Manual 1.3 6MB 2008/01/14
Application Note 1.0 14MB 2008/01/14
Schematics (SMDK2440) 1.0 1MB 2008/01/14
IBIS model 429KB 2008/01/14
USB Monitor Program 0.4 654KB 2008/01/14
DNW 26KB 2008/01/14
JTAG BSDL 0.6 6KB 2008/01/14
ARM920T Technical Reference Manual 1MB 2008/01/14
HW Design Guide 1.0 2MB 2008/01/14
Power Design Guide 1.0 298KB 2008/01/14
SEC JTAG Flash 602KB 2008/01/14
Test Program 0.6 7MB 2008/01/14

S3C2412
File type Rev # Size Updated date
User's Manual 1.06 7MB 2008/01/14
Application Notes 1.01 2MB 2008/01/14
Schematics (SMDK2412) 1.4 399KB 2008/01/14
IBIS Model 2MB 2008/01/14
USB Monitor Program 217KB 2008/01/14
DNW v0.50I 26KB 2008/01/14
JTAG BSDL 6KB 2008/01/14
Power on Reset Guide 22KB 2008/01/14
CSTN Spec 1MB 2008/01/14
3.5" TFT LCD Spec 475KB 2008/01/14
SEC JTAG Flash 2MB 2008/01/14
Test Program 1.01 194KB 2008/01/14

S3C2413
File type Rev # Size Updated date
User's Manual 1.07 14MB 2008/01/14
Application Notes 1.01 4MB 2008/01/14
Schematics (SMDK2413) 1.4 417KB 2008/01/14
IBIS Model 2MB 2008/01/14
USB Monitor Program 340KB 2008/01/14
DNW v0.50I 26KB 2008/01/14
JTAG BSDL 6KB 2008/01/14
Power on Reset Guide 22KB 2008/01/14
CSTN Spec 1MB 2008/01/14
3.5"TFT LCD Spec 475KB 2008/01/14
SEC JTAG Flash 2MB 2008/01/14
Test Program 194KB 2008/01/14

SC32442
File type Rev # Size Updated date
User's Manual 1.2 5MB 2008/01/14
Application Note 1.0 14MB 2008/01/14
Schematics (SMDK2442) 986KB 2008/01/14
IBIS model 140KB 2008/01/14
MSP3 USB Monitor Program 9MB 2008/01/14
Boot loader 245KB 2008/01/14
DNW v0.50I 26KB 2008/01/14
ARM920T Technical Reference Manual 1MB 2008/01/14
Power Design Guide 1.1 420KB 2008/01/14
SEC JTAG Flash 1,006KB 2008/01/14
Trace32 CMM file & Multi-ice cfg 1KB 2008/01/14
MSP3 Test Program 7MB 2008/01/14
Multi-ICE Norom ini 450B 2008/01/14

S3C2443
File type Rev # Size Updated date
User's Manual 1.4 5MB 2008/01/14
Schematics (SMDK2443) 1.1 471KB 2008/01/14
IBIS model 86KB 2008/01/14
Board Manual (SMDK2443) 0.1 169KB 2008/01/14
USB Monitor Program & Test Program 13MB 2008/01/14
DNW v1.0 for USB2.0 26KB 2008/01/14
JTAG BSDL 10KB 2008/01/14
ARM920T Technical Reference Manual 1MB 2008/01/14
PCB Routing Guide 174KB 2008/01/14
Power Design Guide 2MB 2008/01/16
JTAG Flash 867KB 2008/01/14
USB2.0 PC Driver for DNW 7KB 2008/01/14

S3C2416
File type Rev # Size Updated date
Data Sheet 1.0 4MB 2008/10/14

Greets Lino


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Aug 2009 21:37:56
Message:

bigalli,
Theoretically (almost) YES. practically ... we don't know how to perform the upgrade. But we are working on that.

zer0en,
I tend to say that you upgraded to an other family of products (same like upgrading from MioMap3.3 to MioMap2008). Maybe now you should focus on finding the wince image file ... maybe there is a backup on your PC (in MioMap software). But if you reinstall everything probably that is not a good point to start ... you can send me a PM to give you more hints how to search.

kener,
Those are some great findings. Can you give me also the forum where you found that?
Probably the Moov has the same type of 'upgrade unlock' like C series .... software.

gardavis, ok :)

Lino,
this link is my C:\WINCE500\PLATFORM\SMDK2440A folder (used for my build):
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/SMDK2440A.zip
Also here you have another SMDK2440A with all necessary instructions:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/SMDK2440A_2.zip
But be aware that any of those is not EXACTLY whats inside Mio ... so you can't make a build compatible with that GPS ... this is the reason why I made that software. I used some of the original ROM (nk + some drivers) and add some new features. If you want to build something from scratch and uploading into Mio will need to have more info and some drivers source. I don't want to get into too many details ... is not relevant.
Unfortunately i can't found my MioC220.pbxml settings. Probably I forgot to save the pbxml file before formatting ... :( there are somethings that can be recovered from file SysgenSettings.out from the Release Dir.
Here you have the link of the release folder:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/C220_1_final_Desktop_3_Rel_Fol.zip
If you are interested on more technical details we can discuss over email.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 11 Aug 2009 19:22:09
Message:

g_alin

Here is the link to the forum
http://peb.pl/sprzet-do-nawigacji/510795-moov-200pl-i-problem-z-karta.html
but i have did a search on it and i did not find more info.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Aug 2009 02:17:39
Message:

kener,
Not much info ... for now.
Can you check the ICs that you see in the GPS. That can help us to understand some things like Flash Memory type, RAM Memory type ... and some other info about other peripherals used on this platform.
I am almost sure that we are talking about a software unlock.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 13 Aug 2009 17:08:18
Message:

Here take a look at this

http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/moov330pcbback.jpg
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/moov330pcbfront.jpg

The flash ic with the label on it is a samsung K9G8G08U0M.
The one cap (little) still in place do not hide ic's.


Reply author: marian78
Replied on: 14 Aug 2009 16:11:00
Message:

Hi for first sorry for my english and thx for your help.

I have Mio c620 that freez on orange boot screen , no usb connectivity to PC. I thing that "My flash disk" is corupt, and neeed format (delete). But how. I read on this topic "ALL THE INFORMATION FROM “MY FLASH DISK” MAY BE LOST, DO A BACK-UP FIRST". How can format, delete without USB?

Thx Marian


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Aug 2009 19:57:55
Message:

marian78,
If you have a problem with your My Flash Disk (a corrupt partition) that can be fixed with Format (not delete). Format can be done from wince (if you have access to wince/Control Panel/ Partition manager) or from UPGRADE screen (by doing an upgrade with FORMAT option). Is not recommended to format partition from Windows PC. Many experienced lost of My Flash Disk after that Format from Windows PC ... that can be fixed only by upgrading wince with FORMAT option. If you have the original CD (that came in the GPS box) you don't have to worry, because there is all the information from My Flash Disk - software and maps. You'll lose only the data saved by you on GPS ... Favorites, History ....
So first question is: Do you have access to wince?


Reply author: Lino
Replied on: 15 Aug 2009 20:49:22
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

bigalli,
Theoretically (almost) YES. practically ... we don't know how to perform the upgrade. But we are working on that.

zer0en,
I tend to say that you upgraded to an other family of products (same like upgrading from MioMap3.3 to MioMap2008). Maybe now you should focus on finding the wince image file ... maybe there is a backup on your PC (in MioMap software). But if you reinstall everything probably that is not a good point to start ... you can send me a PM to give you more hints how to search.

kener,
Those are some great findings. Can you give me also the forum where you found that?
Probably the Moov has the same type of 'upgrade unlock' like C series .... software.

gardavis, ok :)

Lino,
this link is my C:\WINCE500\PLATFORM\SMDK2440A folder (used for my build):
http://www.Gpspassion/upload2/SMDK2440A.zip
Also here you have another SMDK2440A with all necessary instructions:
http://www.Gpspassion/upload2/SMDK2440A_2.zip
But be aware that any of those is not EXACTLY whats inside Mio ... so you can't make a build compatible with that GPS ... this is the reason why I made that software. I used some of the original ROM (nk + some drivers) and add some new features. If you want to build something from scratch and uploading into Mio will need to have more info and some drivers source. I don't want to get into too many details ... is not relevant.
Unfortunately i can't found my MioC220.pbxml settings. Probably I forgot to save the pbxml file before formatting ... :( there are somethings that can be recovered from file SysgenSettings.out from the Release Dir.
Here you have the link of the release folder:
http://www.Gpspassion/upload2/C220_1_final_Desktop_3_Rel_Fol.zip
If you are interested on more technical details we can discuss over email.



thanks !!

edit:
links down :(

edit2:
never mind :) did not see that '.com' was missing


Reply author: ste
Replied on: 16 Aug 2009 21:08:06
Message:

There is a successful experience on a national forum to compile a firmware with other included Coredll.dll (not the one originally included with that firmware, abridged). PNA reflashing with this firmware was also a success. I consider it a historical step to enhance a PNA.

The forum is not english-language and requires registration to get an access to GPS part, so I am not sure if any links would be helpful, any way here it is: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=119060&view=findpost&p=3095778


Reply author: marian78
Replied on: 17 Aug 2009 16:20:10
Message:

Hi, thx for your reply.

I dont have access to WinCE 5.00. My Mio C620 after power on go to boot screen and then go to orange mio start screen and freeze. i think something wrong in oasis folder, and when i format My flash disk or delete oasis folder, my mio start normaly. Then i can restore it from cd or install another navigation software. But for now no usb, no WinCE 5.00 with unlock. Can i upgrading WinCE with FORMAT option? But i dont have mio c620 image, can only format? how?

Thx.

marian

PS: sorry for my english

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

marian78,
If you have a problem with your My Flash Disk (a corrupt partition) that can be fixed with Format (not delete). Format can be done from wince (if you have access to wince/Control Panel/ Partition manager) or from UPGRADE screen (by doing an upgrade with FORMAT option). Is not recommended to format partition from Windows PC. Many experienced lost of My Flash Disk after that Format from Windows PC ... that can be fixed only by upgrading wince with FORMAT option. If you have the original CD (that came in the GPS box) you don't have to worry, because there is all the information from My Flash Disk - software and maps. You'll lose only the data saved by you on GPS ... Favorites, History ....
So first question is: Do you have access to wince?



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Aug 2009 18:40:59
Message:

marian78,
first you need to find out the file that is started by you GPS when you insert the SDCard into your GPS (use google ...). After you know the file name I can change the UPGRADE application to start ... to give you access to UPGRADE screen. Yes you can upgrade with Format ... but only if you have the winceimg.bin file and you have access to UPGRADE screen. You can't 'only format' (thank God ... ) that will make your device unusable. With Format you are deleting everything (wince and My Flash Disk). I can try to extract the image from SMFlash ...
But first step will be to find out the file name that is autostarted by GPS (some sort of MioAutoRun.exe - C320 series). Only after that we'll try to copy the SMFlash ... extract wince ... activate the UPGRADE ... and finally the upgrade with Format.


Reply author: marian78
Replied on: 18 Aug 2009 08:58:43
Message:

Hi,

thanks for your answer.

My autostart file name is "mioautorun.exe". Now i need extract wince and again flash with format as you wrote (thx for this).

lame question: how?, i googleit and i dont find any c620 smflash, only max c520.
I find this " http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=4 ". And download diskrw2.zip.



thx.

Marian




quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

marian78,
first you need to find out the file that is started by you GPS when you insert the SDCard into your GPS (use google ...). After you know the file name I can change the UPGRADE application to start ... to give you access to UPGRADE screen. Yes you can upgrade with Format ... but only if you have the winceimg.bin file and you have access to UPGRADE screen. You can't 'only format' (thank God ... ) that will make your device unusable. With Format you are deleting everything (wince and My Flash Disk). I can try to extract the image from SMFlash ...
But first step will be to find out the file name that is autostarted by GPS (some sort of MioAutoRun.exe - C320 series). Only after that we'll try to copy the SMFlash ... extract wince ... activate the UPGRADE ... and finally the upgrade with Format.


Reply author: a33pul
Replied on: 18 Aug 2009 09:08:55
Message:

Hi
when i downloaded the mio pocket 49 i renamed the
mioautorun.exe to navione.exe
mioautorun.mscr to navione.mscr
mortscript unchaged
it started the mio pocket but had couple of issue
did not sync data
mio did not start the blue tooth
the orginal menue was running as well in the start up.
i tried to kill the old start up and i meed it up. now when i soft reset only the logo comes up and then get black screen


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Aug 2009 20:38:51
Message:

marian78,
try to use diskrw2.zip ... to download SMFlash.img.
1.Start DisKRW
2.Select from combo-box (close to 'Store:') -> SMFlash
3.Press '...' button and select 'Storage Card' (where to save your SMFlash.img)
4.Press 'Read' button
if you have any problems let me know.
Upload somewhere that file and we'll see from there.

a33pul,
I don't know too many about miopocket 49 ... try to ask help on that thread. All I can do is to give you information of how to upgrade firmware ...
try http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=4 diskrw2.zip
rename MioAutoRun.exe to navione.exe and MioAutoRun.mscr to navione.mscr and download the SMFlash.img first. But do you know how to enter on UPGRADE screen? what GPS do you have?


Reply author: zer0en
Replied on: 18 Aug 2009 20:39:29
Message:

Hey Alin,
I received an email from mio technology saying they are sorry but the update mail the did send me was a mistake and intended for an other mio product (argh.....). Also an explanation how to reinstall the software, format the flashdisk and so on, wich i tried already with no succes. They also say that on miomore desktop there must be 8 possible choices, wich i never had, so I think, considering that it should be cobia420-64 software for my type of mio, they shipped me a wrong CD.

Best regards,

Julien

ps: I have been away for 1 week, it seems a have no rights on this forum to send you a PM, here is my mailadress zer0en(at)gmail(dot)com.

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

bigalli,
Theoretically (almost) YES. practically ... we don't know how to perform the upgrade. But we are working on that.

zer0en,
I tend to say that you upgraded to an other family of products (same like upgrading from MioMap3.3 to MioMap2008). Maybe now you should focus on finding the wince image file ... maybe there is a backup on your PC (in MioMap software). But if you reinstall everything probably that is not a good point to start ... you can send me a PM to give you more hints how to search.

kener,
Those are some great findings. Can you give me also the forum where you found that?
Probably the Moov has the same type of 'upgrade unlock' like C series .... software.

gardavis, ok :)

Lino,
this link is my C:\WINCE500\PLATFORM\SMDK2440A folder (used for my build):
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/SMDK2440A.zip
Also here you have another SMDK2440A with all necessary instructions:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/SMDK2440A_2.zip
But be aware that any of those is not EXACTLY whats inside Mio ... so you can't make a build compatible with that GPS ... this is the reason why I made that software. I used some of the original ROM (nk + some drivers) and add some new features. If you want to build something from scratch and uploading into Mio will need to have more info and some drivers source. I don't want to get into too many details ... is not relevant.
Unfortunately i can't found my MioC220.pbxml settings. Probably I forgot to save the pbxml file before formatting ... :( there are somethings that can be recovered from file SysgenSettings.out from the Release Dir.
Here you have the link of the release folder:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/C220_1_final_Desktop_3_Rel_Fol.zip
If you are interested on more technical details we can discuss over email.


Reply author: a33pul
Replied on: 19 Aug 2009 03:54:37
Message:

thanks g_alin here are the info
my gps is a chineese version
4.3" SAMSUNG400MHz/GPS+Bluetooth+MAP+MP4+2G Card/SP-43A
romversion:18.jx.4.bf.1.4.2.8
processor: arm920t
ram size: 64mb
software version: 2.08
sirflll
i dont know how to up grade but my first concern is to get the gps back in order, no screen at all. when i soft reset it only the logo comes on


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 19 Aug 2009 04:39:21
Message:

a33pul,
unfortunately I don't have enough information to help you ... tell me how to help you? ask me some questions ... and I will try to answer.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 19 Aug 2009 07:52:51
Message:

zer0en

Can you post here in short the
explanation how to reinstall the software for the email.
Never know when it's needed.

Thanks.


Reply author: a33pul
Replied on: 19 Aug 2009 08:25:23
Message:

alin
can you tell me how to write an excutable file to bring up the killed menue.let me explain, i instaled the mio and then tried to kill the orginal start up app an killed the loader. exe and still th menue was running, then i killed the auto luanch.exe. now how can i replace or write an excutable file that unit can excute the menue. as i said when soft reset, i get the logo only and then nothing comes up. i donet see nothing on screen to hard reset or factory reset. i darined the battery but no change.do you have the mio pocket file
startupappsbackup.reg
i can not find it in downloads.in read me says to copy to costum and start reinstall again
5.16 How do I kill my device's original software?

Go into MioPocket Settings, then "System->Manage startup apps." The apps listed there are run at startup via the HKLM\init registry key. Identify the app that you want to kill (use Task Manager to confirm the filename), then tap on it and choose "Delete this app." Be careful with this, as stopping apps that were meant to run at startup could have unpredictable and undesirable results (ex. stopping USB from working). If you make a mistake, you can, at any time, choose "Restore original startup apps" to go back to the list of startup apps that you had before you made any changes. If, for some reason, you are unable to use that option, copy MioAutoRun\Registry\Exclude\StartupAppsBackup.reg to MioAutoRun\Registry\Custom and re-install MioPocket.
i need the startupappsbackup.reg file


Reply author: marian78
Replied on: 19 Aug 2009 08:29:49
Message:

Hi,

i used miopocket many times. Read this " http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/MioPocket%20Readme.html#2.2a ". There is wrote: "4D) Non-Mio devices
Warning: Some obscure GPS devices (especially no-name Chinese GPS devices) d o n o t r e v e r t W i n d o w s back to an unmodified condition when you perform a hard reset. You are advised against putting MioPocket on such devices because there is no way to undo any undesirable changes and you might permanently brick your unit. Most reputable brands, including all of the following, are fine." Maybe your after hard reset dont revert.



quote:
Originally posted by a33pul

thanks g_alin here are the info
my gps is a chineese version
4.3" SAMSUNG400MHz/GPS+Bluetooth+MAP+MP4+2G Card/SP-43A
romversion:18.jx.4.bf.1.4.2.8
processor: arm920t
ram size: 64mb
software version: 2.08
sirflll
i dont know how to up grade but my first concern is to get the gps back in order, no screen at all. when i soft reset it only the logo comes on


Reply author: zer0en
Replied on: 19 Aug 2009 14:02:40
Message:

Hallo all,

-Start miomore desktop, connect moov330 to pc, switch moov on.
-goto mio device with explorer on your pc and right click,then do a
format.
-disconnect device with hardware disconnect, close miomore desktop.
-do a hard reset on the device and wait a few minutes then start
device again.
-open miomore desktop and connect device to pc.
-in miomore desktop - extras - reinstall software.
-question: Do you want to backupp, answer yes or no.
-close miomore desktop and reopen.
-to the left there must be 8 choices.
-If only 4 options visible then close and reopen miomore desktop.
-option:reinstall speechfiles
-option:reinstall maps, first got to - extras - repair codes
then click on my maps in miomore, then choose where to install,
flashdisk or sd card.

thats it, btw, a have tried a cd shipped with the moov of a friend, and everything works as expected so i can conclude they shipped the wrong cd with my moov.

Best regard,

Julien


quote:
Originally posted by kener

zer0en

Can you post here in short the
explanation how to reinstall the software for the email.
Never know when it's needed.

Thanks.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 19 Aug 2009 19:46:42
Message:

a33pul,
I don't have startupappsbackup.reg ... I don't know almost anything about mioPocket ... shame on me :( .
Now I understand your problem ...
You have a device that do not delete the ROM (RAM based in most of the situation) when you perform a hardware reset. That may happen in two situation: was designed by in idiot or doesn't have Flash at all (the wince is in a battery backuped RAM).
Your options are:
1. Remove the battery (not drain the battery ...). Disassemble the GPS and disconnect the connector that connect the rechargeable battery to PCB (board). Left that battery disconnected over night. Connect it back in the morning (don't assemble back the GPS ... you see later why ...) If there is no change go to option 2.
2. Find the backup battery (if nothing changed probably you have a back up battery for RAM). Backup battery are usually small coin battery (most of the time not rechargeable) - like a small cylinder with two terminals, that are shiny or are covered by a plastic tube (to avoid short circuit with components that are around battery). Usually you need a soldering machine to desolder that battery from PCB (in the same time the other battery also should be disconnected) ... left it over night. Connect the backup battery and the main battery back ... and try again.
Side effects: If you don't have the wince on Flash and is only in battery backuped RAM (theoretically is possible ...) then you'll loose your wince information and you'll have to find the way to upload your wince back to RAM - so is possible to make your device unusable (not that now is usable ... but is better to now the risks).

zer0en,
Interesting that they don't perform any OS / GPS model check before upgrade ... that is an amateur mistake.


Reply author: a33pul
Replied on: 19 Aug 2009 21:09:17
Message:

alin. thank you i will try let you knoe.
zeroen. i am an amateur. just loved the chalnge and changed to mio pocket but had three isues, not datasync, not seeing the blue tooth and the original menue was poping first, but it was working, i tried to fix it and messed it up.


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 24 Aug 2009 04:07:25
Message:

so if i want to make a backup of "My Flash Disk", all i have to do is copy/paste it onto the SD/MMC card for safe keeping.. is that right?
Than all i have to do is upgrade the firmware from v3.1 to v3.3 on my C510, and then copy back the contents of My Flash Disk..?
(i just wanna know if i got everything right)
Thanks in advance. All this has been vere helpful!


Reply author: marian78
Replied on: 24 Aug 2009 08:58:09
Message:

hi,
i try and nothing happend. Maybe my GPS is unrecoverable. I try DiskRW2, boot GPS, insert SD with extracted DiskRW2 and nothing.
Maybe my SD slot dont work too. Now only jtag maybe help but i dont now how.

Thx.

Marian.



quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

marian78,
try to use diskrw2.zip ... to download SMFlash.img.
1.Start DisKRW
2.Select from combo-box (close to 'Store:') -> SMFlash
3.Press '...' button and select 'Storage Card' (where to save your SMFlash.img)
4.Press 'Read' button
if you have any problems let me know.
Upload somewhere that file and we'll see from there.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 24 Aug 2009 20:58:32
Message:

Foxer,
Yes .. but you need to be sure that you copied also the hidden files and folders (in explorer make sure you see Hidden and System files). But if you upgrade without Format ... everything from My Flash Disk should be untouched. Maybe you should consider to download your SMFlash (and I will extract the winceimg.bin) in case that you have any problems with this new firmware to be able to go back to your firmware ;) .

marian78,
Unfortunately I don't see any software option ... there are some claiming that on Moov they managed to reset somehow the device ... http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=114520 is one (risky) option before JTAG.
Another option (very few chances too work) is to make a bootable SDCard with a SMFlash image http://www.smart-host.ro/sd_card/ download from here an C520 image and using wimhex write the image on the SDCArd ... insert the SDCard and performa a hardware reset ... maybe is going to boot ...


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 24 Aug 2009 21:40:17
Message:

thanks g_alin for the fast reply!
I'm extracting the ROM image from my c510 as we speek (or as i'm typing; to be more precise :P )
The link you posted with the c510 firmware, doesn't work; so i managed to find something on a russian website (Mitac Mio C510 Firmware (rus-eng) v.R35F.3.126.0711) http://www.x-drivers.com/catalog/bios_firmware/gps/companies/mitac_mio/models/c510/index.html ..what do you think?

I'm planing to go ahead with the firmware upgrade (from 3.1 to 3.3) altho i have no idea what good will that do..

I have miomap2006 installed, it came with the device, and i bought the device Second-Hand. I don't even have the DVD. It had already been Mod.-ed, coz when i tapped on the round MioMap icon, it took me to Total Commander, and from there i could browse through the device and start the application.

Today's atempt to upgrade to a 2008 map was a failure.. license problem. Don't really know what to do here..
I don't really want to install skins and all that on the device; i just have a few apps and a TaskMan that i'm verry contempt with, but most of all i want the GPS part to work as good as possible. The 2006 Romanian map is awful.. and u guessed it.. i live in Ro.

P.S. Thanks 4 all the help!


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 24 Aug 2009 23:23:59
Message:

here are the .img files that i got from my device

http://www.filefactory.com/file/ah3h153/n/c510_img_files_rar

alternative link: http://ul.to/kxrjjk

Thank you so much for offering to help


Oh! and can you please post again the v3.3 firmware for the c510 ?


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 25 Aug 2009 01:57:41
Message:

I upgraded to the new firmware. But now, when i start miomap, it says "Hardware ID Changed", and then the license error, and then it exits.
And also, by doing this i realised that if i upgrade the firmware, i WON'T automaticly have miov3.3 .. (stupid gulable me..)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 25 Aug 2009 02:15:41
Message:

Foxer,
give me some time and I will extract the winceimg. But why the file is 160M? Don't tel me that you gave me also the My Flash Disk.img!?

LE: Done. check first page. Your ROM is R33F. Let me know if it works.


Reply author: sken79
Replied on: 25 Aug 2009 14:11:45
Message:

Dear g_alin, dear all,
I'm luca and I'm the owner of a mio C250 bought in Italy. My original PNA was equipped with r09 firmware, for west european model I guess, So, I would say that my PNA was a mio c250 WEU. I applied g_alin cure last July and my PNA has been R03-firmwared for EEU.
I've not experienced any major flaws so far and I'm running Igo 8.3 without any trouble.
Unfortunately I did not backup my firmware, otherwise I would share it to the forum community.
Actually, I know that exist different versions of firmware for C250 WEU (r09,r11,r17...): does someone know what is the newer firmware among the WEU r09/11/17 and EEU r03?
If someone in this forum has a newer c250 WEU, please could he/she post the firmware so that I can try to bring my C250 back to Western countries with a better firmware than r09.

Thanks!

Luca

ps: thanks to g_alin for his effort!


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 25 Aug 2009 22:32:30
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

Foxer,
give me some time and I will extract the winceimg. But why the file is 160M? Don't tel me that you gave me also the My Flash Disk.img!?

LE: Done. check first page. Your ROM is R33F. Let me know if it works.



Hey, thanks!
For now i'm planing to tinker a little more with miomap while using this firmware.
A few major changes are these:
- my saved v3.1 miomap doesn't work anymore; it says "Hardware ID Changed" and it exits.
- The "Contacts" icon in the Mio startup screen, is no more.
- The GPS connection seems (i'm not sure) to be a little weaker than before.

..for now i'm still trying to get any damn version to work.. The good versions i have (meaning 3.1 and 3.3) don't have a good C r 4 c k ; and the only good -ahem- "patch" i have is for v3.2 (which i don't have).
I've been pulling my hair for almost 2 days now, with DATA.zip
Nobody seems to have a good, cleen/unmodified, working 3.3version. Only the QuickSilver one, which (from my point of view) is awful to work with while you're driving.. + it moves horible compairing to the normal un-modded version



I'm planing in the near future to switch back to the previous ROM, even if it's just for a short while. But i really wish i could get miomap working, first.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 26 Aug 2009 03:45:50
Message:

grosales,
Download:
C320_NA http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/C320_NA_ROM_R40.3.9904.0720.zip
from that package copy files: winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks to an empty SDCard (in root of the SDCard ... not in a folder)
You should keep the SDCard with UPGRADE (the one that you used to activate UPGRADE screen - blue screen) ... you'll needed it later to disable the UPGRADE screen. Use another SDCard for winceimg.bin.
Enter in UPGRADE screen and use:
FIRST SCREEN Choose -> 0 = WinCE Upgrade
SECOND SCREEN choose -> 1 = WinCE by SD/MMC
and wait ...
After you receive the message to restart your device ... wait for another 1 minute,, remove the SDCard from GPS and do a hardware reset (power button pressed for 12 seconds until shutdown ... and press again 12 seconds for power up).
Connect GPS to PC and copy all navigation software to Mio Device drive.
Disconnect the GPS and check if the navigation software works.
After you are sure that is working (use it for couple days), insert the SDCard with software that activate/deactivate UPGRADE screen. After application starts press NormalUser button. Hardware Reset your GPS ... to test if you deactivate the UPGRADE screen.
Let me know if you succeed.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 26 Aug 2009 18:38:51
Message:

Hi grosales,

http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/galin_UPGRADE_MIO_27Jul09.zip
copy all content of the SDCard folder to an empty SDCard.
Insert the SDCard and after application starts press NormalUser button.
I recommend you to wait and see if your device is working OK ... and only after that you should use the UPGRADE software to disable the UPGRADE screen.


Reply author: Mio310help
Replied on: 28 Aug 2009 10:03:32
Message:

Hello guys i have a mio n179 (COBIA 420.V1.00.0021), two days ago i tried to install destinator on it,
so i renamed the existing folder MIoMap to MioMap1 and I put Destinator on a new folder MioMap I made a reset and from that moment the device stay freeze on the beginning screen (Mio explore more ) and except that it can't connect with pc,
WHAT CAN I DO NOW PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME?
Does this firmware C320_NA_ROM_R40.3.9904.0720.zip solve my problem or i need other?
Is there anyone who has files to make a firmware update from sd?
I am very desperate now please i really need HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 28 Aug 2009 16:19:20
Message:

mio310help

NO firmware C320_NA_ROM_R40.3.9904.0720.zip
is not for Cobia 420 (mio moov)
look in the topic's how to reset the moov.
(drain battery or fast switch reset to on several time's)
till now we can not load new firmware on mio moov.

goodluck


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 29 Aug 2009 15:00:50
Message:

@grosales
well, once i lost the entire content of my computer's Hard Drive after years and years of gathering all sorts of stuff on it, that ultimately became who i was.. i became really addicted, and that was my whole life: my desktop, my files, the content of my hard disk!
Of course, i cried and saw black in front of my eyes; my whokle world was ripped apart, and i did'n know who i was anymore, without my computer who constantly reminded me..
A funny thing happened afterwords.. after a few days, after i managed to get a bit over the shock; i started feeling this imense sentiment of freedom.. like who i was (really), could never be ripped away from me..

Wierdest thing is, i dreamed it all, first, before actually happening..


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 29 Aug 2009 15:06:50
Message:

@g_alin

i finally managed to install the right software on my c510, works great :) and i added a few mods (button to enable/disable GPS; button for "export track log"; and posibility to plan "EASY" route, coz by default it only has "Fast" , "Economic" and "Short")

I will soon post all of my work here

PS. i'm a bit scared to go back to the old firmware, coz i'll have to do it via the computer (coz it doesn't have the checksum file). But i'll find the time and guts, so to check that it really works :)

I'll later post a question about a small problem with the POI's that come by default VS. the ones that are added by hand

Thanks for all the help!


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 30 Aug 2009 21:49:56
Message:

Allright. The question/problem is this: By default, Mio v3 sometimes comes with a few POI's already defined.
For example, it already has the preset Groups:
"My POI"
"Transportation"
"Entertainment"
"Services"
"Shopping"
"Culture"
"Sports Recreation"
"Food & drink"
"Artificial Landmark"
"Emergency Government"
"Lodging"
"Natural Landmark"
"Water Landmark"
Each of these has several sub-groups in which the POI's are placed.

When a POI is added manually, it's automaticly sent to the Group "My POI", and the only option you're given is to create a Sub-Group inside "My POI".


Inside the "\My Flash Disk\Miomap\Miomap" folder, there is a folder named GFX, containing all the icons/logos for some of the Brands shown on the map. Like, for McDonalds it displays their red&yellow "M" logo; or the Ford logo in the place where a Ford dealer is located. Whatever.

The problem/question is: How do i edit these already preset POIs?
And how can i make the icons work for custom/manually added POIs?

I suspect i somehow got to move every manually added POI in the factory-defined Groups.. but how? Is there a way by editing the DATA.zip ?


Reply author: ZeGerman
Replied on: 07 Sep 2009 20:07:28
Message:

Anyone knows how to activate BOOTLOADER menu for "Mio Moov 200" device?

Seems that only here are people that know what they are doing...

Greetings


Reply author: grosales
Replied on: 07 Sep 2009 22:33:01
Message:

Hi You all:
How can a Maestro 3100 be waken up? Is dead a nice paper weight now
Thanks All God Bless You
Greg


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 09 Sep 2009 18:11:42
Message:

hmm problem with updating firmware from PC, is that when the GPS is in the blue screen & i plug it into the USB, the computer does not sense any new hardware.. What to do?!


Reply author: Foxer
Replied on: 09 Sep 2009 19:21:40
Message:

@g_alin
ok, i managed to do it, but there's a problem on the reinstallation of my old ROM; on the gps screen it says:

USB Cable connected.
Download OK.
cs:00006201
Writing CE image...
BINFS img
BP_WriteData FALSE

and it remains at "WritingImage 8%"

PS. i tried installing from the SD with a good checksum that i created, but it's all the same.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Sep 2009 19:55:04
Message:

Foxer,
I found one problem (hopefully the last one...). Try this winceimg.bin
http://www.4shared.com/file/131437023/1bf8b43/C510_EEU_R33F.html
Please let me know if it works. And tell me also the firmware version (beside R33F ....)


Reply author: Mio310help
Replied on: 11 Sep 2009 14:08:49
Message:

g alin
Can you help me please and with my problem
I have A mio N179 Device (cobia 420.....) Do you have any firmware (autorun from sd_card)
for this devices? or do you know how i must put the files in sd_card to run automatically from sd? PLEASE HELP ME I HAVE A VERY BIG PROBLEM THE DEVICE STAYS FREEZED IN THE BEGINNING SCREEN ....
Thank's


Reply author: Mio310help
Replied on: 11 Sep 2009 14:12:31
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

Foxer,
I found one problem (hopefully the last one...). Try this winceimg.bin
http://www.4shared.com/file/131437023/1bf8b43/C510_EEU_R33F.html
Please let me know if it works. And tell me also the firmware version (beside R33F ....)



Please!! help me with my Mio N179 problem with Appstartupsec.exe no connection with usb, only stays freeze in the beginning screen Mio explore more ... Do you have any firmware for this device and if you don't have any idea how the must be put in sd so the device when resart run from sd?? PLease Help


Reply author: ZeGerman
Replied on: 11 Sep 2009 14:26:02
Message:

Anyone got to "UPGRADE MODE" for Mio Moov 200 ????

Please Help!


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 11 Sep 2009 15:46:27
Message:

Hi

Found this on a forum maybe it will help some moov user's.

Next is by google translated.

rybeusz - 2009-03-20, 16:19
Hi. I have this problem. I wanted to unlock navigation mio moov 200 but probably something I did not follow the manual.

1. Moov'a are connected to the PC - do a backup of the file "appstartupsec.ini"
located on the device:Mio Device (My Flash Disk) \ Program Files \ MioMap

2. Files from the folder "upload to MIO", copy the appropriate place for device:
a) the file "appstartupsec.ini" copy (overwriting the original) to:
Mio Device (My Flash Disk) \ Program Files \ MioMap b) the folder FileManCE2 "copy in its entirety to:Mio Device (My Flash Disk) \ Program Files

3. The entire contents of a folder "on SD card" copy to SD card
(Folder "Backlight" and the abbreviation "Highlight")

4. Mio disconnect from the PC, reboot, done.

But now I'm only a blue screen and the entire command:

0 = WinCE Upgrades
1 = GPS Tools 1
2 = BT Tools 2
3 = Uboot Upgrades
4 = Memory Tools
Choice:

He knows how someone can come into the navigation to work?
Thanks in advance for your help.
-------------------------------------------------
qlin - 2009-03-20, 16:55
You probably have to upgrade to SD soft Mio
Try resetting your device and fire up again should surprise
-------------------------------------------------
rybeusz - 2009-03-20, 17:14
Thanks Qlin. It works. Dark man and you do not know, and therefore no such problems. And you think how to navigate the program is the best in the MIO?
-------------------------------------------------

The original is here h***://my-navia.pl/printview.php?t=5300&start=0&sid=9545496d9463eb81e383522257a1e46f


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Sep 2009 01:25:55
Message:

Mio310help,
For now we don't know how to enter in UPGRADE screen ... we are working on that ...
Read this thread also http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=114520 maybe you can reset your device to regain USB connection.

kener,
I think there are some 'missing parts' in that discussion .... if I understood right they are talking about some software to be downloaded ... do we have that software? and beside that I don't have a Mio Moov to try it ... If you find that software I can take a look on it maybe something will come up from there. The UPGRADE screen may be activated by some files (with a specific name) on the SDCard ... is not impossible.
I wonder if we can get in contact with them? Probably we need someone that knows polish ... any volunteers !?


Reply author: Mio310help
Replied on: 14 Sep 2009 13:13:50
Message:

Well the problem begins when one "smart" friend tried to installed on it Destinator software and he renamed the folder MioMap to MioMap1 he created a new folder MioMap and put inside the files of Destinator after that he made a hard reset at here we are! the device freezes at rhe beginning screen Mio Explore more(with purple font) I don't have connection with Pc I received almost every time I tried to connected (Error 10).
Until now I have tried to make a boot sd card with a Windows ce explorer so to fix the files in flash disk as they must be. I made a folder Cobia_420_64 and inside i put a Auto.exe wich is a windows ce explorer but NOTHING!!! I renamed several times the folder and I gave it different names like Cobia_420_64_NA,Cobia_420_32,Cobia_320_32_NA and several others but nothing until now. What else I can do ? Do you know what must be the name of the file in sd so the device will be able to boot from SD? this will help me a lot! or what else I can do??? PLEASE HELP I tired with this and I am desperate!!!!!!!
THANK YOU g_alin for your response


Reply author: ouazdi
Replied on: 16 Sep 2009 09:21:57
Message:

Hi everyone
This forum is amazing, full of knowledge and savvy people.
I need help please. My story:
I'm the owner of a mio C220 bought in Houston Texas in 2007. All I wanted to do was to update Texas map, because I am a Limo driver, and I need an updated map and more point of interests. I was looking online to find out how to do this. I thought, it would be easy just go to Mio website, download the map and load it in the GPS. Well I found out that I cannot update my easy way. I come across some article that shows how to crack the GPS, and put any map I want. I decided to give it a try even though I am not a computer savvy. I followed the steps, but nothing happened; I discover later that I need to use Windows XP because Vista does not work. Well I find an article that talk about updating the firmware of the GPS, I try it on a XP computer, and I successfully updated the firmware, but I do not even know what version is it, I only know when the screen was blue, on top there was this numbers: UT 91A-S 32M R04 256MB. So when the firmware was updated, the GPS become like a small computer with the taskbar, my documents, control panel and other things, on the desktop there is recycle bin, my device and desktop it is really cool. Now my questions are?
1. Is my GPS cracked and unlocked now or not yet? If no what should I do next?
2. How do I put new updated maps in it (like 2009 maps), and the most updated POI and other things like MP3 player?
3. I found an article “how to Setup of Bupahs Mio Hack v3.doc” with all the files necessary files, what is this for? And can I use that for my GPS or no?
Please I am not a computer savvy but I can follows instruction very well if they are clear to me. Your help is much appreciated because I cannot afford to buy another gps, business is so slow now.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Sep 2009 18:40:08
Message:

ouazdi,
Now you are using one of the modded versions of the ROM8.3.
There are two different things:
- unlocking (your device is unlocked ... because you have access to wince ... with taskbar and explorer).
- cracking the GPS software ... that a different story and can't be discussed on this forum (forum rules).

Discussion deleted by Moderator

ouazdi - now that you have what is essentially a poor-man's PDA, you can look for mapping software that is meant for such devices (such as iGuidance - see other Forum topics). Unfortunately, there aren't many legal choices available for USA users. While we symphathize with Mio owners (I'm one) concerning the lack of an upgrade path, we cannot assist in installing software that has not been legally purchased or otherwise violates the manufacturer's or author's licensing rules.


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 18 Sep 2009 03:14:43
Message:

hii galin

i have a mio C320 with firmware C320_NA (R40.3.9904.0720)
is there an vague possibility i can change the firmware to a different one like this one,
C520_EEUT (MioMap2008) (ROM_V1.00.0003)

actually i want to put miomap 2008 instead of miomap 3.3 on my device.
basically looking for rom changes.

really appreciate your help.

regards


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Sep 2009 03:45:21
Message:

navx2vad,
You should know that the firmware has only the wince image inside (not the navigation software).
Because the original image of you device is available on our list you don't need to do a backup.
My recommendation is to use only a firmware specifically designed for your device ... but if you have access to UPGRADE screen you can always go back to your original software. Use always the upgrade without Format! The C520_EEUT is not probably the best option ... first you are not going to be able to use the old MioMap3 (unless you make your own unlock ... ) ... and second it has less windows components than classic C520 firmware. If your MioMap2008 software works with firmware 520_EEUT is going to work also with 520_EEU.
You should know that C520 European version has 1Giga Nand (same like C320 NA) ... but C520 NA has 2Giga NAND ... sow it may not work on your device.
By upgrading to a C520 EEU you can gain access to same native application (mp3 player ....) ... for sure the BT is not going to work ... let us know if it works.


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 18 Sep 2009 04:03:39
Message:

galin, thanks for your reply.
actually i am not interested in using MioMap 3.. was not sure about rom upgrade.
i build custom roms for my asus WM but have never played with wince devices, so was lil skeptical
will it work the same here if i use an another image..

regarding bluetooth, i know it wont work as C320 lacks bluetooth device on board,
but have a look here.. may be of some interest to you...
http://www.instructables.com/id/Add-a-bluetooth-adapter-to-your-GPS-device/

thanks again, will try and give the feedback.


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 18 Sep 2009 06:03:30
Message:

i have updated MIO C320 with this one.. C520_EEUT (MioMap2008) (ROM_V1.00.0003)

now the problem is wen i switch it on.. get to see only usb connection screen.
can't get rid of it.

can u please tell me teh directory structure i need to create in order to get rid of the screen
and go ahead with this upgrade.

waiting for your reply.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Sep 2009 20:10:59
Message:

First you should try to insert the SDCard with UPGRADE unlock. If you see the message: "unlock UPGRADE ?", probably the path (for autostart a software from SDCard) is: "\Mantas405A43_EEU\auto.exe".


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 19 Sep 2009 02:40:34
Message:

galin. that way i can unlock to get wince desktop
but still i cant get rid of the usb screen..

i am unable to get device menu.

as soon i restart its back, there is no way i can remove this USB screen?

really appreciate your help. thanks once again.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 19 Sep 2009 02:44:39
Message:

navx2vad, first find out the application that show that window (something with USB .... .exe probably). Using notepad make a new Text File with the same name. Overwrite the USB....exe file with the NotePad file (renamed to USB....exe). This way this application is not going to start ...


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 19 Sep 2009 05:27:13
Message:

galin, it dint worked any how. but was able to unlock the device and even Mio pocket 3.0
my main purpose was to get the mio moov gui on device, miomap 3.3 is of no use for me because
of unavailability of maps for miomap 3.3 in my country, where as there are maps for miomap 2008.

i want to remove miomap interface, and get the mio moov interface on my device.

i guess i will need the oem dvd, for software restoration (directory structure) like program files, system etc. i tried creating the program files folder, copied miomap 2008 but still the usb screen was there.

guess, i have to stick to miomap interface only :(

thanks for helping me though.


Reply author: palmony
Replied on: 19 Sep 2009 16:23:10
Message:

Hi g_alin

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

If you have a different firmware you need to back-up your wince. To do that, you need DiscRW utility. Probably you should contact me to (on this thread) for details. Because every device is different I can’t give you a DiskRW that work with every model.




I have a different firmware and need to back-up my wince.
My device is Mio C320 - Hebrew style.

I want to know how to back-up my wince, and how to install it back to my device.
Can I also install it (the back-up) to another device?

I don't have any tools to do so.

Thanks


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 20 Sep 2009 02:01:12
Message:

galin is it possible to use COBIA i.e. moov updates?
i tried installin mio moov 300 firmware.. fails to start..

i gues problem with , does nay one have the moov devices has same nand like mio c320
so that i can install the firmware & able to get after black screen.


Reply author: escape007
Replied on: 20 Sep 2009 16:01:17
Message:

Hello to all!

someone has image file of Mio C250 +
ROM R17.4.0160.0917?
Or can create the one?
I've googled - so far without success.
Can someone help me?

Thank you!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Sep 2009 21:35:13
Message:

palmony,
http://www.4shared.com/file/134354901/9ef633/DiskRW.html
instructions:
1.Start DiskRW
2.Select from combo-box (close to 'Store:') -> SMFlash
3.Press '...' button and select 'Storage Card' (where to save your SMFlash.img); If '...' doesn't work you can write (using keyboard) the name of the SDCard folder of your PNA (ex: \Storage Card\, \SDMMC\ ...)
4.Press 'Read' button. A Hourglass will appear and it will take approx. 30 sec.
If something is not explained right, please let me know.

navx2vad,
I never tried those 'hybridization's' ... I don't know anything about MOOV platforms ...

escape007,
I don't have Mio C250 + ROM R17.4.0160.0917.
Yes I can create one if you copy the SMFlash from one device that has this firmware (use the DiskRW.exe on top of my post)


Reply author: palmony
Replied on: 21 Sep 2009 23:16:23
Message:

Hi g_alin

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

palmony,
http://www.4shared.com/file/134354901/9ef633/DiskRW.html
instructions:
1.Start DiskRW



How to Start DiskRW?

To copy the DiskRW to blank SD card, Insert it to my c320?
And what to do then?

Thanks


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Sep 2009 23:21:32
Message:

use mortscript to start this application or rename diskrw.exe to mioautoru.exe. started application from C320 SDCard is 'mioautorun.exe'


Reply author: palmony
Replied on: 22 Sep 2009 00:18:18
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

use mortscript to start this application or rename diskrw.exe to mioautoru.exe. started application from C320 SDCard is 'mioautorun.exe'



Thank you g_alin,

I am on leave now.
I'll try it on about two weeks when I come back and let you know the result.


Reply author: catalin76it
Replied on: 25 Sep 2009 14:54:57
Message:

hy everyone. I have buy this week a mio c520 with win ce 5.0.
versione R.1.0.09.1225
ROM: C320WEU.V1.9929.0047
AND MIOMAP 2009.
I need eastern europe, i have tryed to unlook, i dosen't work until today. also bluetooth is not working, it dosen't exist as an application. on the start screen i have MIOMAP, AUDIO, SETTINGS

WHAT CAN I DO for unlook and rom upgrade-downgrade? the sd card method it's not working. i hoppe than you will help me. thanks


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Sep 2009 04:43:56
Message:

catalin76it,
on your \My Flash Disk\ should be one (or more) *.xml file(s). Upload those somewhere and I'll try to help you with the unlock. Maybe you download your SMFlash.img after that ... to have it on first page 'collection' ...


Reply author: attyk
Replied on: 27 Sep 2009 10:37:18
Message:

g_alin,

My smflash image:
http://www.4shared.com/file/135712424/a71743d3/SMFlash_0_23068672.html

Thank's.
How ca i do it alone?


Reply author: catalin76it
Replied on: 27 Sep 2009 12:37:19
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

catalin76it,
on your \My Flash Disk\ should be one (or more) *.xml file(s). Upload those somewhere and I'll try to help you with the unlock. Maybe you download your SMFlash.img after that ... to have it on first page 'collection' ...



you can download the .xml from www.izolatii.go.ro/xmlmioc520.zip
last night i made something. I can see the windows file. it's work with moov unlook (not for c525 http://www.freewebs.com/xtyler91/moovunlocks.htm). the problem is: igo it's not working, mio it's not working. error is: "program it perform an ilegal opperation and will be shotdown". i tryed many version of igo8, not working. any advice?
thx g_alin


Reply author: escape007
Replied on: 27 Sep 2009 21:21:49
Message:

@g_alin
C250_EEU (R03.3.0164.0416) - works fine on C250 +

C250_EU (MioMap2008?) (R02.0164_v2.00.0000) - does not work

Can you change DiskRW so that DiskRW to save image file from the Explorer did not call, but WinCE Commander? Is that possible?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Sep 2009 05:37:06
Message:

escape007,
very strange that didn't work C250_EU (MioMap2008?) on C250+ ... someone told me that is working ... but what happened after you upgrade to C250_EU (MioMap2008?)? can you describe me the screen content? it was a USB connection?
(I don't really understand the question ... but) if you question is: can I start the diskrw from wince commander? Yes you can.


Reply author: escape007
Replied on: 28 Sep 2009 16:17:56
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

escape007, it was a USB connection?


Yes,PC<->USB connection


g_alin
On my C250+, there is no Win Explorer.Ist it possible that DiskRW to save the image calling WinCE Commander, not the Explorer?
Sorry for my English


Reply author: BigJohnD
Replied on: 29 Sep 2009 00:10:49
Message:

I am in a similar position to catalin76it, but with a C320

Applications Package: R1.0.09.1225
ROM Version C320WEU.V1.9926.0047.
MioMap2009
(i.e. recently updated from MioMap 3.3)

[VersionInfo]
Name = Mantas400A43_WEU
Brand = NAVMAN


I have installed MioPocket 3 onto the SD card, but the device still boots from the internal flash drive, ignoring the SD Card. The first screen after loading shows MioMap, Audio and Settings icons only.

What do I need to edit to get MioPocket to load from the SD Card instead of the default MioMap2009 from the internal flash drive? Is there an "autorun" file or a "shell" line in a registry on the internal flash drive which points the system to the SD Card?

Hope you guys can help! Many thanks.


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 29 Sep 2009 05:42:20
Message:

Those who have upgraded MIO Cx20 to Miomap 2008 firmware, can get back to old miomap 3.3 firmware.

1. Download from first post, unlock utility.
http://www.4shared.com/file/134368427/de6567bf/UPGRADE_MIO_21Sep09.html
2. Copy files in SD CARD Folder to root of memory card (preferably do it on PC), when done, put memory card back into MIO.
3. A screen will pop up with two options.. NORMAL USER & SUPER USER MODE.
4. Choose Superuser Mode. next step, press yes to unlock uboot.
5. Shutdown MIO and insert back the storage card on pc.
6. Move the above copied files to a new folder.
6. Download Firmware (which ever you prefer)
for eg. C520_WEU (R37.3.9931.0816)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129460987/599e656f/C520T_WEU_ROM_R37399310816.html
7. Copy two files.. winceimg.bin & winceimg.cks to the root of storage card.
8. Put sd card back into MIO.
8. Hold down the start key for around 10-12 seconds, you will see a blue screen..
9. choose wince image upgrade i.e option 1, u can scroll by pushing
start key & holding for few seconds,selects that particular option.
10. Now, choose through sd card.
11. it will hardly take 2 mins, restart message will come.
Don't hold for much time as it will show u blue screen again.

Take out the card, files you have copied above in folder, copy back to root,choose NORMAL USER MODE window will pop up with "close unlock boot screen" press yes.

Restart & now you have your old mio back, use miomap 3.3 dvd or install any other software/unlock.

Another direct way,no need to use unlock.
Put winceimg.bin & winceimg.cks file in root of sd card, shut down the mio, now start, it will enter into blue screen. follow the above steps.


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 29 Sep 2009 05:49:39
Message:

Unlock devices with MIOMAP 2008 installed.

for eg. unlocking Mantas400A43_WEU, using MIO POCKET 3.0.

1. Create a folder Mantas400A43_WEU in root of SD card, and copy mioautorun.exe , mioautorun.mscr &
mortscript.exe from Mio Pocket 3.0
2. Rename mioautorun.exe to auto.exe & miautorun.mscr to auto.mscr.
3. Copy again mioautorun.exe,mioautorun.mscr & mortscript.exe to root of sd card.
4. Copy Mioautorun folder from Mio Pocket 3.0 to root of sd card.
5. Plugin back the sd card on your MIO.. installation will start.


Reply author: BigJohnD
Replied on: 29 Sep 2009 17:52:19
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by navx2vad

Unlock devices with MIOMAP 2008 installed.

for eg. unlocking Mantas400A43_WEU, using MIO POCKET 3.0.

1. Create a folder Mantas400A43_WEU in root of SD card, and copy mioautorun.exe , mioautorun.mscr &
mortscript.exe from Mio Pocket 3.0
2. Rename mioautorun.exe to auto.exe & miautorun.mscr to auto.mscr.
3. Copy again mioautorun.exe,mioautorun.mscr & mortscript.exe to root of sd card.
4. Copy Mioautorun folder from Mio Pocket 3.0 to root of sd card.
5. Plugin back the sd card on your MIO.. installation will start.


I'll try it again, but that does not work with MioMap2009.



The updated firmware does not by default look for files on the SD card.

Just putting files on the SD Card is not enough - the boot up process loads MioMap2009 - something needs to change to prevent MioMap2009 loading.

g_alin's idea of editing an *.XML file on the flash drive seems worth investigating, as they list the location of all the files.


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 29 Sep 2009 18:19:26
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by BigJohnD
for eg. unlocking Mantas400A43_WEU, using MIO POCKET 3.0.
I'll try it again, but that does not work with MioMap2009. The updated firmware does not by default look for files on the SD card.

Just putting files on the SD Card is not enough - the boot up process loads MioMap2009 - something needs to change to prevent MioMap2009 loading.

g_alin's idea of editing an *.XML file on the flash drive seems worth investigating, as they list the location of all the files.


can you please u/l miomap also, i can try that way also then?
will be easier for me to hack/work more in this direction, to get old miomap 3.3 back post installation.
right now i have tried, after installing new firmware and it worked,
i can even shift from US to EU firmware without any problems.


Reply author: BigJohnD
Replied on: 29 Sep 2009 20:04:15
Message:

Thank you! At the third attempt MioPocket loaded - many thanks! That wasn't easy.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Sep 2009 03:08:17
Message:

attyk,

http://www.4shared.com/file/136394618/396ac4c3/C520_EEU_ROM_R40399320709.html

Question: this version has Hebraic support? I remember right!?

catalin76it,
You have a standard "upgraded version of C320 to MioMap2008". Is not a bad idea to download the SMFlash (to have it ...) strange that iGo8 is not working ... try to delete the 'save' folder and delete 'speed camera' file ... this way will have a fresh start and will check first the hardware that you have ... also you can try to downgrade to other firmware version (for testing reason ...) to see if with that version of firmware is working or not.
Your start up folder (should be) \Mantas400A43_WEU\auto.exe
LE: I found somewhere: "For iGo you just need these DLLs: MFCCE400.DLL, OLE32.DLL and OLEAUT32.DLL." check if you have those dlls ...

escape007,
I don't see the connection between diskrw and explorer. If you don't have explorer working on your device you have to type (using keyboard) the path of the SDCard (manually) .. because button '...' I don't think it works ... beside that everything is like described.

all,
I updated the UPGRADE files: http://www.4shared.com/file/136397481/8045bcae/UPGRADE_MIO_29Sep09.html
If I missed answering to someone please ask again ... ;)


Reply author: navx2vad
Replied on: 30 Sep 2009 16:44:15
Message:

the simplest way to get rid of new miomap 2008/9 update on MIO Cx20 devices is

download the firmware update from first page, which ever your device is.
extract the contents on a sd card i.e winceimg.bin & winceimg.cks (root of sd crad)

start your mio, blue screen well come, choose WINCE Image Update > Update from SD Card.
once, done you will get back your old mio, now you can load miomap 3.3 or igo8 or any other software,
also MioPocket is easier to handle.

this method only works on MIO C series devices and is fully reversible, you can go back to new miomap 2008 firmware & vice versa. if any queries/doubts how to downgrade.. post here will try to help.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 02 Oct 2009 20:42:03
Message:

RomMasterCE5_ver.1.9.1:
http://www.4shared.com/file/137079382/630f4bd9/ROMMasterCE_ver191.html
RomMasterCE5_ver.1.9.2
http://www.4shared.com/file/137079888/8f8f4d26/ROMMasterCE_ver192.html
RomMasterCE5_ver.1.9.3
http://www.4shared.com/file/134407564/e8e44c78/ROMMasterCE5_ver193.html
RomMasterCE5_ver.1.9.4
http://www.4shared.com/file/137080121/fc35fedc/ROMMasterCE_ver194.html
RomMasterCE5_ver.1.9.5
http://www.4shared.com/file/137835624/254d5f98/ROMMasterCE_ver195.html
Added:
- DecreaseROM with Hx....
- remapROM (rearrange ROM layout ... works simple only with FILES. If you have also MODULES you need to fix the overlapping manually).


Reply author: theoconst1
Replied on: 11 Oct 2009 17:05:57
Message:



Dear G_alin
Have you ever tried to connect the Mio C520 gps to Google Earth
through the GooPs or the EarthBridge tracking programs? I have
a C520 and for two months now I am struggling to make the GooPs
or the EarthBridge to see the NMEA signals of the gps but without
success. The C520 is unblocked and communicates with the PC. The
Ranson GpsGate does not seem to be of any help and wants a Garmin
gps in order to work. I would greatly appreciate it if you, or anyone
who was facing the same problem and has solved it, could give me some
advice


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Oct 2009 19:34:13
Message:

theoconst1,
I never heard of those applications (until now). But I search on google and I sow that those applications are for Windows only ... not wince. So how do you intend to connect those? The PNA is running Wince 5.0 ... if you provide more details we can try to give you some hints ...

LE: I think I understand ... You are trying to connect your GPS to a laptop and see/record your position on GoogleEarth ... let me know if that was your intension ;) ...


Reply author: theoconst1
Replied on: 13 Oct 2009 10:59:54
Message:

Dear Alin,
Thank you for your prompt answer. Yes, I am trying to connect
the GPS to the PC or laptop and see my position in the Google
Earth. If you type "GooPs" on an Internet browser you will see
in details what this is all about. Keep in mind that if I had
a Garmin gps there wouldn't be any problem. But, you see, we all
have the C520.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 13 Oct 2009 20:02:31
Message:

theoconst1

i know there is a program GPS2Blue.
that can be used to connect the gps unit treu bluetooth with pc
find out more here h***://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html
i do not know if this can be used on a wince Pna device (how to install)
or if this will work with GooPs.

greetings kener


Reply author: theoconst1
Replied on: 13 Oct 2009 22:44:46
Message:

Kener,
I don't have any problem connecting the C520 to the PC. Once
the GPS is unblocked it can be connected to the PC or the laptop
through the Active Sync. The problem is that the GooPs can not see
the C520 and the Bluetooth can not do anything about it.
Regards. Theo.


Reply author: TFGBD
Replied on: 14 Oct 2009 10:41:56
Message:

Can someone who's tried it confirm or deny if the new 2008/2009 firmware uses a hive based/persistent registry like the Moov units? If so, is there a documented way to clean the hives/hard reset short of flashing a different wince image?

Also, what is the difference between the 2008 and 2009 OS images? Are they both mostly the same the same and just bundled with different software for the flash disk? Do the 2008 firmwares still include the Mio apps like the MP3 player or do they just boot directly into the Navman software? If that's the case, it sounds like it would be a downgrade from the previous bundled software. Finally, have you noticed any improvements in graphics performance? The original ROMs have horrible GDI performance in apps like explorer when drawing icons and such. Was there any noticeable improvement in the 2008/2009 OS?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Oct 2009 19:06:06
Message:

theoconst1,
I didn't test anything (by my self) but in my opinion you have the following options:
1. use GooPs with RS232 connection. And because you don't have a physical connection with RS232; you have to make a virtual RS232 port with HW VSP3 - Virtual Serial Port (http://www.hw-group.com/products/hw_vsp/index_en.html#download). The connection will be through TCP/IP (using USB physical connection). On GPS you configure GPS2Blue to redirect your GPS port (from your GPS) to TCP/IP.
2. use GooPs with RS232 connection. And because you don't have a physical connection with RS232; you have to make a virtual RS232 port with a BlueTooth dongle. You install the driver and you'll have many serial ports (COM4,5,6 ... maybe more). On GPS you configure GPS2Blue to redirect your GPS port (from your GPS) to BlueTooth.


Reply author: theoconst1
Replied on: 14 Oct 2009 20:22:55
Message:

Dear Alin, thank you very much. I will try your suggestions and
I will let you know. Meanwhile, if you are interested, you can
download the free version of the GooPs and try it also. Thanks again.


Reply author: theoconst1
Replied on: 15 Oct 2009 19:15:19
Message:

Dear Alin,
I tried both options that you suggested in your previous post
but without success. The HW VSP3 program is telling me that my
device is not supported and refuses to proceed, and the Bluetooth
dongle connects the GPS to the PC, with the GPS2blue, but not to GooPs.
Maybe I am doing something wrong and I do not follow your suggestions
exactly. If you ever have some free time I would like you, as more
experienced, to try your suggestions and, if you don't mind, let me
know.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Oct 2009 02:42:13
Message:

theoconst1,
I don't have time to test right now ... but when I will have some news I will tell you.


Reply author: theoconst1
Replied on: 16 Oct 2009 16:39:46
Message:

Thank you Alin. I appreciate it.


Reply author: ta2ey
Replied on: 23 Oct 2009 22:13:09
Message:

Hi g_alin,
I have a 4.8" WinCE 6.0 Navigation Device. I'd like to add Control Panel and what it needs to run to the OS. I got img files from the seller. But I don't know how to play with img files . Could you please explain me how to modify an img file?

Thanks in advance,


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 26 Oct 2009 18:39:03
Message:

ta2ey,
Unfortunately I don't have experience with CE6. If you upload the image I can take a look (don't know if I can help you).


Reply author: escape007
Replied on: 26 Oct 2009 20:28:42
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

escape007,
I don't have Mio C250 + ROM R17.4.0160.0917.
Yes I can create one if you copy the SMFlash from one device that has this firmware (use the DiskRW.exe on top of my post)


Hi g_alin,

Here is copy the SMFlash of c250 + ROM R17.4.0160.0917.
http://depositfiles.com/de/files/hr8z8cix3

Can you please convert the to Imagefile?
Thanks!!!


Reply author: ta2ey
Replied on: 26 Oct 2009 21:34:02
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

ta2ey,
Unfortunately I don't have experience with CE6. If you upload the image I can take a look (don't know if I can help you).



Hi g_alin,

Thanks for your reply. I uploaded my image files here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/296548204/YF82A_4.8_WINCE_6.0_ROM.rar

I'm able to get some info from the system screen of device.

Application Version: S930S-3-3.11A-F2
Kernel Version : 930-1.1.5
Processor type : ARM1136JF-S AT840
Board Type : AT8X0BD 6.0

There was a folder named "repair_system" in original SD card.
That folder included files like "boot82a.bld (15kb),btld82a.bld (62kb),cfg82A.cfg (8kb),os82a.img (49.152kb),YFAPP.wzp (19.025kb), YFUpdate.exe (259kb).

I was unable to restore device with those files when it got locked. Then I e-mailed to seller and requested ROM image. He sent me 3 files that uploaded the archive for you and I could succeed to recover my device.

I'm greatly appreciated if you give me some clues to manage the img files.

Thanks in advance...


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Oct 2009 03:39:01
Message:

escape007,
Done. Check the first page. This firmware has more components than R11.

ta2ey,
I check the files, and ROMHDR (ROM layout) is different (than wince 4.2 or wince 5.0).
I can tell you that wince.img is the OS (has to parts: tinynk and nk) and winceapp.img are applications (used by your PNA). There is not much to tell .. I was unable to extract any files (due to ROM layout problem). sorry.


Reply author: escape007
Replied on: 27 Oct 2009 18:14:42
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

escape007,
Done. Check the first page. This firmware has more components than R11.


g_alin

Thank you very much!


Reply author: ta2ey
Replied on: 27 Oct 2009 18:27:38
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

ta2ey,
I check the files, and ROMHDR (ROM layout) is different (than wince 4.2 or wince 5.0).
I can tell you that wince.img is the OS (has to parts: tinynk and nk) and winceapp.img are applications (used by your PNA). There is not much to tell .. I was unable to extract any files (due to ROM layout problem). sorry.




Don't be sorry about it.
Thank you for taking a look at my files.


Reply author: KhaKev
Replied on: 29 Oct 2009 07:39:37
Message:

g_alin,

Could you kindly look at the Sanyo ROM http://rapidshare.com/files/298118967/Sanyo_Diskrw.zip.html and see if it's possible to extract BL and OS? The file size does not seem right and I have not successfully dumped the image.

Do you think we should change the Length and maybe also Offset prior Reading the ROM? What should they be? Any pointers is greatly appreciated. Thanks. -KK.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Oct 2009 03:14:27
Message:

KhaKev,
The image has an OS inside. dumprom is not working with that image .. I can't tell you why. With my software I was able to take a look inside the installed components - I got an error somewhere and I don't have time right now to investigate why. For sure this image is the richest I ever sow (for a PNA).
"The file size does not seem right and I have not successfully dumped the image."
Why do you think is not right? did you got any error during dumping?
If you talking about diskrw parameters ... I don't have to much experience with those. I used the default values of the software.
Anyway let me know why do you think the dump is not right .. and tell me if you can enter in UPGRADE SCREEN. We have to find out if your device use N000FF image or NB0 image for upgrade.


Reply author: KhaKev
Replied on: 30 Oct 2009 07:01:18
Message:

g_alin,
First of all, thanks for taking the time looking into this.
The reason why is because the OS should be ~26.6MB. If the BL was copied then it should be less than 30MB image for SMFlash. The same for DSK1, it should be around 13MB but it's close to 96MB after DiskRW'd.

I understand dumprom is good for NK.bin. Yes, I did get error with dumprom on SMFlash image. However, 9 OS files were extracted.
The error is: ERROR: could not find pointer for ofs ffffffff. It took hours then dumprom gave up with above error.

As you can see there are many fffffff's in the image by viewing in HexEditor. I read from here that some ROM has certain length. I also suspect because MioPocket was installed and that DiskRW read everything by using the API?

I don't believe there is an Upgrade Screen on this device. Looks like it reads the upgrade silently from SD with the proper key pressed and the right BL files on SD card. If my assumption is right you can translate this page for details.

I found a ROM from another brand that has a very similar OS and we've confirmed that the checksum for autorun.inf is the same. Looks like the boot loader consists of

block0.nb0
EBOOT.bin
EBOOT_SD.nb0
IROM_SD_EBOOT.nb0

OS:

NK.bin
XIPKER.bin
chain.bin
chain.lst

If you don't mind please continue on this topic here with others. Many thanks.


Reply author: ojejoe
Replied on: 31 Oct 2009 23:08:45
Message:

Hi everybody.
I'm new here in this topic but I've got problem related to the stuff discussed here.
I've got 4.3" Tevion GPS, which is bricked because of my stupidity. I've bricked it using
wrong rom upgrade from different gps brand, to brick my unit I used SD card with this files:
chain.bin,
chain.lst,
DRIVERS.bin
EBOOT.nb0
FormatFlsh.txt
NK.bin
TINYNK.bin
My GPS is dead, but if I insert SD card with this files into sd slot it wants to load the upgrade
and it does it to the end, it says 100% and completed successfully and after restarting is dead.
I did find someone with exactly the same unit and I'm going to get Flash Disk image created by
DiskRW.exe. The Tevin's 512Mb Flash Disk is partitioned into 4 partitions: the bigest is about
414Mb, second 64Mb (I think this is the RAM), third 22Mb (I thing this is the ROM) and the fourth
is something small a few Mb and I don't know what is it.
I was wondering if someone here would point me in right direction and tell me how to extract the ROM
from this disk image?
Thanks for your patience and any help you can give me.



Reply author: KhaKev
Replied on: 02 Nov 2009 00:32:28
Message:

ojejoe,
Sorry to hear but if you can run DiskRW and read the ROM on your friend's device then upload it somewhere and ask g_alin to take look as I know he has the right tools for PNA ROM. Best of lucks.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 02 Nov 2009 19:07:55
Message:

ojejoe,
Can you upload the files used for upgrade? I will try to see the upgrade format.


Reply author: ducados22
Replied on: 10 Nov 2009 14:28:58
Message:

Hi all.

A need help , my miomap c220 not working C220_NA (R06.3.0165.0315) C220_NA (R08.3.0165.0611 a need another

rom .

Thanks



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Nov 2009 19:08:55
Message:

ducados22,
we need more details ... you have a hardware problem or a software problem?


Reply author: jukka.kauppinen
Replied on: 10 Nov 2009 19:21:06
Message:


I think that it is hardware.It is located on the right even the route is not selected.


Reply author: dr_att
Replied on: 10 Nov 2009 20:37:16
Message:

Hi guys!

I have a problem with a moov 300 (N179 COBIA 420V1.00.0021).
I have overwritten the appstartupsec.xml. I have a backup on the device, but i can't access via usb. If i connect to the pc, it says: usb drive found but "no compatible driver for the device" (or something like that in hungarian)

I sent the device to the local mio service, but they want change the mainboard. I don't understand this...

Any idea how to fix it?

Thanks!

dr_att


Reply author: Henny
Replied on: 10 Nov 2009 22:32:16
Message:

Hi G alin

Does this work also on a C220 European version? I have now Rom R07.1.0168.0612. Something went wrong with installing IGO. Maybe I have trow something away from the flashdisk. Now I have constantly a message "Please use map DVD to recover software". I have tried to recover, but the device is not recognised by CD. I can connect with MIO Transfer. So my question is:
1) Can I repair my rom to overwrite with this one? (I saw that it is for USA version)
2) Do you have the European Rom R07.1.0168.0612?
3) Do you maybe know another repair method for my device?

Thank you very much Kajoe


Reply author: ducados22
Replied on: 11 Nov 2009 11:21:27
Message:


Hi g alin.

Software error , a need Rom R07.1.0168.0612.

Thanks.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Nov 2009 19:23:49
Message:

dr_att,
you have a PC usb driver problem - you need to install the driver (use UPDATE DRIVER in Control Panel / System / Hardware / Device Manager / ... Here you have to check where is your device: at Universal Serial Bus OR in the other section) that came on the CD.
Let me know where did you found your device (in Device Manager in which section).

Henny and ducados22,
Don't jump to UPGRADE ... probably your problem can be fixed without upgrade.
Using MioHackC250 software delete all files and folders from \My Flash Disk and after that try to perform a RECOVER from CD.
The device USB recognition ... Its a real trick ... how to make it work. Unfortunately this GPS is not compatible with all USB found in PCs. You need to find one PC that recognize your GPS (as connected) when you connect your device. Another option is to use a USB Hub (but has to be 1.1 version NOT a 2.0 one ...)
If this procedure doesn't work let me know and I have other options.

PS. After recovery please try to copy the SMFlash from your device (to extract it and placed in our collection). If you need help to download please let me know.


Reply author: dr_att
Replied on: 11 Nov 2009 21:18:20
Message:


i tryed everithing (remove/reinstall driver etc...), but did not work.
I think there is something with appstartupsec.exe or xml or whatever... It worked fine before i deleted that file.

any other idea?

thanks

dr_att


Reply author: dcanazz
Replied on: 13 Nov 2009 09:02:52
Message:

g_alin,

I would like to try the upgrade procedure, but before I do I would like to understand 3 points that are not clear to me, even if I red the topic.

1) How can I come back to my old firmware? (Question 3 in the QA)
I backed up my Flash and I have now a nice 30 megs .bin file. If I don't like the new firmware, how do I put back the .bin file into the flash? Am I supposed to use DiskRW in a "reverse" way? And another point: in the answer 3 you say "After that you can disable the UPGRADE screen": do you mean doing it selecting "normal user mode"?

2) Upgrading to a custom firmware via SD.
I would like to do it this way, since I don't have easy access to a windows PC to use the USB procedure. But in the custom image zip files I downloaded in the first page of this topic there is only a "winceimg.bin" file but no ".cks". Is this normal?

3) This one is not strictly related to this procedure. I would like to understand grosso modo how this all works. Where is the winceimg.bin written by the upgrade procedure? What's the relation between the Flash and the nand? Do anybody have any pointer to a document explaining this?


Reply author: deividast
Replied on: 13 Nov 2009 12:37:53
Message:

g_alin,

I tried to backup my firmware on mio c220 (R05.4.0168.0425, but I get the error "Error opening File:Cannot create a file when that file already exists".

Any solutions? Thanks in advance!


Reply author: deividast
Replied on: 13 Nov 2009 12:46:03
Message:

Hereis the log file:

Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:02:43 AM
(01C77444E3B16380)


Opening Disk ...OK
Getting Disk Information ...OK

GEOMETRY
Cylinders = 1
Tracks per Cylinder = 1
Sectors per Track = 61440
Bytes per Sector = 512
TotalSectors = 61440
Disc Size = 31457280 bytes

**Device can be used for demand paging

Getting Store Information ...OK

StoreName = Samsung Flash Disk
DeviceName = SMFlash
DeviceType = ATA
DeviceClass = BLOCK
DeviceFlag = READONLY
DeviceProfile = SMFlash
Total Sectors = 61440
Free Sector = 16120
Bytes per Sector = 512
Biggest Partition Creatable = 16120
Attributes = 0x0
Number of Partition = 1
Number of Mounted Partition = 1
Last Format = ceInfo: Insufficient buffer

Last Modified = ceInfo: Insufficient buffer


Requested Operation ...

Operation type = Disc Reading
Store = SMFlash
Offset = 00000000h - 01DFFFFFh
Length = 31457280 (1E00000h) bytes
Output File = \storage card

Creating File: \storage card\ ...ERROR

Legend:
* = each contains 0 sector
&& = Same Hexadecimal Value as previous


ERROR Opening File:
Cannot create a file when that file already exists.


Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:02:43 AM
(01C77444E3B16380)


Reply author: dcanazz
Replied on: 13 Nov 2009 13:06:03
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by deividast

g_alin,

I tried to backup my firmware on mio c220 (R05.4.0168.0425, but I get the error "Error opening File:Cannot create a file when that file already exists".

Any solutions? Thanks in advance!


You have to type in the filename (i.e. \storage card\flash.bin), not the directory name (i.e. NOT just \storage card\ ).


Reply author: deividast
Replied on: 13 Nov 2009 13:17:24
Message:

Thank you dcanazz, it works. Do you know whether it is possible to update firmware with this rom R05.4.0168.0425? I would like to have the taskbar.


Reply author: dcanazz
Replied on: 13 Nov 2009 13:27:24
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by deividast

Thank you dcanazz, it works. Do you know whether it is possible to update firmware with this rom R05.4.0168.0425? I would like to have the taskbar.

No, I'm just at ABC in this matter... Let's wait for someone who knows more (also for the questions I made a few posts ago...)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Nov 2009 19:43:26
Message:

dr_att,
Open appstartupsec.xml (from your back-up) and see the files that where started (or post it here and some one will tell you the files started - at startup). After that try to find out the file name that is started by your GPS when you insert an SDCard with that file (for example: Mio C220 series has "Oscar91A.exe"; Mio C320 series has "MioAutoRun.exe") after you know that use FileManCE.exe -> renamed to 'your_name_auto_start.exe' and start this FileManCE application from SDCard. Manually start all the application from appstartupsec.xml and connect your GPS to PC ... Theoretically should work.

dcanazz,
Answers:
1) Give me the SMFlash file and I will do the conversion (is not that 'I want to keep this procedure secret' ... but if you screw-up something your device may end up dead ... - Not that I give you any warranty but I extracted most of the images that are on the first page ... so I can consider my self more experienced than a regular user).
Don't use DiskRW in revers way ... I never tried (personally) but a user told me that doesn't work.
Yes ... Pressing User Button your device is not going to show you the UPGRADE SCREEN: Be careful ... after you do an upgrade always left the upgrade screen available for couple days ... this way if something go wrong you ca revert (come back to your old firmware). And only after you are tested your new firmware (and all software that your are going to use) ... and everithing work as expected disable the UPGRADE screen.
2) If you what to upgrade from SD you need to have the cks file also (otherwise the upgrade is not going to start). I can make a the cks file for you .. let me know which firmware are you interested. The response time may vary .. but I will do it.
If you upgrade using PC the cks file is not need it.
3) (that is a complicated ... answer) ... lets see if I can answer to some of the questions:
- "Where is the winceimg.bin written by the upgrade procedure?" Into NAND (Flash) at address specified by the winceimg.bin Header.
- "What's the relation between the Flash and the nand?" NAND is a subset of the FLASH. for details go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#NAND_flash
If you need more details let me know.

deividast,
Upload your image and I will take a look at your OS image ... some C220 versions can have taskbar and some not. Depends on the components used for the OS build.

most downloaded firmwares are:
C250_EEU (R03.3.0164.0416) ........... 106 times
C520_WEU (R37.3.9931.0816) ........... 89 times
C220_NA (R08.3.0165.0611) ............ 82 times


Reply author: dcanazz
Replied on: 13 Nov 2009 23:17:32
Message:

g_alin, thank you for your answers.
I uploaded the firmware I dumped with diskrw. The file is at http://www.canazza.it/dump.bin, with its log file http://www.canazza.it/dump.bin_read.log. It'a a C220 WEU R04.3.0168.0316

I would like to try your custom http://www.4shared.com/file/129471186/a5564a94/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_3.html, so if you can give me its cks file I would be very glad.

Concerning the nand and the flash, my question was really about the 3 disks that I see in DiskRW.
I think I sorted it out: the operating system is stored in SMFlash. The "nand disk" (DSK1) is "\My Flash Disk" and probably when one does a hard reset the OS is copied from SMFlash into My Flash Disk.


Reply author: deividast
Replied on: 13 Nov 2009 23:35:40
Message:

g_alin,

Here it is
http://rapidshare.com/files/306622429/flash.bin

You've mentioned the most downloaded firmwares - could, for example, C520 device firmware be uploaded on mio c220?
My wish is to have amost full winCe on mio c220, not having "not a valid Windows Ce aplication" problems. Could it be that all necessary dll's are included in one of the firmwares you've posted?


Reply author: deividast
Replied on: 14 Nov 2009 23:38:52
Message:

g_alin,

Also could you please make the backup from uploaded image?


Reply author: nosadello
Replied on: 15 Nov 2009 14:10:59
Message:

i have Garmin icon on MioPocket 3.0 Release 54 ...
how i can add Garmin program? i have Update mio c250+ with C250+_EU_ROM_R17.4.0160.0917.zip ...


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Nov 2009 03:09:01
Message:

dcanazz,
Done. Both firmware upgrade have cks.

deividast,
"C520 device firmware be uploaded on mio c220?" - NO
"not a valid Windows Ce aplication" - even C520 has this problem ... depends on the application that you want to run ...
"Could it be that all necessary dll's are included in one of the firmwares you've posted?" - NO ... that's impossible. All dlls from Platform Builder ... that's not possible.

LE: Done. Your firmware is R05.4.0168.0425
I don't think is going to work the taskbar ... but you can give it a try ... don't trust me .. I may be wrong. the NOTIFY component is missing in your firmware.


Reply author: dcanazz
Replied on: 20 Nov 2009 23:49:53
Message:

Here is my feedback.
I was able to upgrade my Mio C220 WEU with rom R04.3.0168.0316 to your custom n. 3. This is the picture:

It didn't work with the SD method (the PNA remained there looking for the wince image, that was sitting there in the SD root!), but I managed to find a windows XP PC to try the USB way.
I am now testing the flash, but I don't know if I'll keep it or I'll go back to the original one. There are a few applications that with this new rom don't work, while they did with the former, most notably total commander.
Maybe for the use I want to do with my PNA, that is having a few navigation softwares plus the possibility to script and a few gadgets, the best way to go is just to keep the old rom and a pseudodesktop.
BTW, anybody knows about a pseudodesktop with a smaller memory footprint than systeminformation?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Nov 2009 00:45:26
Message:

dcanazz,
Use small SDCards (like 64M ... 128M) for upgrade.
I don't use Total Commander ... I use FileManCE.
if by "pseudodesktop" you understand a task switcher (some thing that let you start other application that don't need explorer.exe and Desktop) ... try SoftButton (http://dedischew.net/softbutton/).


Reply author: mhrumman
Replied on: 23 Nov 2009 07:48:14
Message:

i have a question, if i use this to patch my Australian C520 with the 2008 navman map-upgrade and use the one u have on the 1st page C520_AUS (R39.3.9965.0801) will this upgrade it or downgrade it, because i can't find an upgrade option for the Australian C520


Reply author: dcanazz
Replied on: 23 Nov 2009 08:46:39
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin
Use small SDCards (like 64M ... 128M) for upgrade.

Thank you, this was the right trick!


Reply author: escape007
Replied on: 29 Nov 2009 09:05:07
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin
Question 2: how can I upgrade the firmware?
Answer 2: There is a small utility that is able to activate the UPGRADE screen. This upgrade screen will provide you the possibility to upgrade two components: uboot and wince.
http://www.4shared.com/file/136397481/8045bcae/UPGRADE_MIO_29Sep09.html
In this package you’ll find the documentation available to perform the upgrade.


Hello g_alin

How do I get out/uninstall this tool(on MIO C250+)?

Best regards


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Nov 2009 20:09:23
Message:

escape007,

After upgrade and recovery from CD:
23. (after you power up the GPS) insert SDCard (the one used to unlock UPGRADE screen).
24. After application starts press NormalUser button (this is going to disable the UPGRADE screen access).

general information,
I have a new version of ROMMasterCE (v.1.9.8) http://www.4shared.com/file/162953239/3e41e2a2/RomMasterCE5_ver198.html
change list:
- added B000FF output
- output folders are: -NB0 (for NB0 format - Mio) -B000FF (for B000FF format - Magellan)


Reply author: escape007
Replied on: 01 Dec 2009 21:13:15
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

escape007,
24. After application starts press NormalUser button (this is going to disable the UPGRADE screen access).



Thank you!!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 04 Dec 2009 00:01:03
Message:

hi there
i have a mio moov 360 and i can see the blue screen
i have another mio moov 360 and i have the wince image with g_alin,s instractions
i understand how to make the second file.cks and i have made one
1) i try to make 0=wince upgrade 1=wince by sd/mmc...... start and after a wile it wrights on screen:image file too large
if i take another file from another mio (from your posts)the aplication start to read the file but when the file finish at 100% then it write on screen:unknown image type
2)i try to instal from usb with DNW tool ...i can see mio moov on my pc and i start instalation but at some time the tool stops.the screen of mio moov gows black ..
i cand anterstunt y? because the imagefile is from another mio but same model.
any ideas?


http://rapidshare.com/files/314494468/SMFlash_0_26214400.img.html

this is the image file of my mio moov 360 ......cobia_420_64
is there any one hoo can help me?
sorry for my bad english


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 04 Dec 2009 03:37:24
Message:

srelioskoz,
Q1: How did you activated UPGRADE Screen?
Q2: How did you extracted the winceimg.bin (from SMFlash.img)?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 04 Dec 2009 11:03:48
Message:

g_alin it is dificult to explane but i will try it.
you must to open the rear cover of mio moov . inside there is the electronic board. pull out 3 more screws and u can see the other side of this board.on this side there is a big metal cover.carefully pull out this cover and u can see 3 big transirtors(i dont know the right word).one of them has a paper sticer with the name cobia. now careffuly (with the power swich to reset position)fint the 9 pin take a wire and put the one side of it on this pin.the other side of wire gows to ground.as u are with this connect u must to put the power swish to on position. the moov screen gows blue and u can see the choises.
if u put again the power button to off mode ,then mio moov restart normaly

i hope that a have make a good explanation because i don,t speak good english.

Q2 g_alin ..
http://www.4shared.com/file/134354901/9ef633/DiskRW.html
with unlock mio moov i use this tool and it work ...it create one file with this name
SMFlash_0_26214400.img
but when i try to use it on mio moov it start and after a wile i see the mesage image file is to large
i dont know if i must to make a conversion of this file.
can u help me with this problem? can u convert it for me or can u explane me how to do this?

http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/moov330pcbback.jpg
lets see the picture of mio moov 330 .in this picture u can see the rear side of elecktronic board.u can see the part(big transistor)with the name cobia. on the down left corner of this part u can see a SIGN like CYCLE.this sign sows that the start of pins begin from this corner. but u must to carefull when u try to do this because near of this pin(9) we have the pin with vcc
i thing this is the pinout of this electronic part
N.C N.C N.C N.C N.C N.C R/B RE CE N.C N.C Vcc Vss N.C N.C CLE ALE WE WP N.C N.C N.C N.C N.C
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25
N.C N.C N.C N.C I/O7 I/O6 I/O5 I/O4 N.C N.C N.C Vcc Vss N.C N.C N.C I/O3 I/O2 I/O1 I/O0 N.C N.C N.C N.C


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 04 Dec 2009 19:47:24
Message:

srelioskoz,
try to upgrade using:
http://www.4shared.com/file/165538541/90b06686/MOOV_360_ROM.html
Let me know if it works. And tell me also the ROM number.

Q1: How did you figure out how to do that? do you have knowledge behind the /CE short to GND for Flash IC? Don't tell me that you made many shorts on the PCB until you find the /CE to GND one is gong to show you the BLUE screen!? I was hopping that you have a software option to enter into the BLUE screen ... This one is a little complicated for some one "not skilled". Thank you anyway ... this is a good start (you are the first one that managed to enter into the BLUE screen ... on MOOV series).


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 04 Dec 2009 22:00:14
Message:

G_alin i studet electonics and electrics.

the name of moovs version that i took image file is cobia420.v1.00.0021(this is the good mio moov)

on blue screen u can see cobia400_R06_0131 ram64 MLC 2G
anyway i tried the file that u send me. it start ok but when it finish the i see a mesage :unknown image type any key to continue. read progress 100%

the name of flash rom inside is samsung K9LAG08U0M

for finding the pin i use a tool from cars.
http://rapidshare.com/files/329911841/electric_car_tool_.JPG.html
it is a litle lamp inticator who sow u if u have carrent or not.
if i put it on a pin with carrent the mio application dont brakesdowns because the litlte lighit lighits. if u do this with a simple wire and u put it on a pin with vcc and the other side on ground it wil be a big problem as u understunt(NEVER EVER DONT TRY TO DO THIS).you mast to be carreful with electronics

anyway i dont now what else can i do with firmware.
thank you for your answer.
i hope that we can find a solution on this problem.

i use the tool grap it.exe from this place http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=238945
and it extract this file from my mio
can we use this to do something?
http://rapidshare.com/files/316374207/dump.bin.html

efharisto poli (thank u very much in greek language)


Reply author: grooverr
Replied on: 05 Dec 2009 21:49:16
Message:

Hi g alin ..Am having a definite blond momment here.I have a Mio c520 with the same problem...lost dsk1 on the unit.Ican see dsk1 and dsk2 in the flash using dsikrw but cant access it through windows.I then tried to install mantas program and there seemed to be nothing happening after waiting 3 minutes or so.I finally gave up and put my SD card with IGO8 on it and let it run.I then decided to make a backup of my 16 gig card to an 8 gig ..and lo and behold mantas started.Now i cant stop it from running.I havent been able to stop this thing ...ANY IDEAS would be helpfu.Thaanks Groover


Reply author: tgg2k
Replied on: 06 Dec 2009 14:40:53
Message:

@g_alin, a little update to your first post...

First of all, I have (better said "had") a Mio C250, ROM version R03.3.0164.0416. Since you gave me the image file, I tried to restore the original "My Flash Disk" from the Recovery CD but I always got stuck with an error like "Not enough free space". A few days ago I upgraded the unit to R17.4.0160.0917 (Mio C250 Plus) and now I cand see the folder "My Flash Disk" and the Recovery CD is working fine. Also, on my device step 22 from your readme does not appear automatically.

Conclusion: the firmware from C250 Plus works on C250.

LE: There is one problem to this... The original Miomap software from the recovery cd does not work because is for R03, not R17 wich is the new firmware. You will get the error "HardwareIDchanged".

LE2: Not quite surprinsing... Bupahs Taskbar mod v3.5 works (!!!) on this firmware: R17


Reply author: grooverr
Replied on: 06 Dec 2009 17:59:35
Message:

I am at a complete loss here.I have a mio520 that i was having a problem with,i loaded the mantas program that was listed and i loaded the program on my Mio tried various things with the programin ect.with no results that i icould see.I then tried to reboot the unit and lo and behold that was the only program booting up once i installed the SD card.I cant see the flash ect. only the program running.I have another 520 am wondering if i can copy the flash image and program files off the new unit then reflash the older 520?If i can how do i stop the mantas program?Your help will be greatly appreciated.Grooverr


Reply author: kumandm
Replied on: 07 Dec 2009 18:18:33
Message:

Hi all.

I need help for my Mio c710. I need winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks for this device. I can't connect with my PC, can't start him to main menu, only can start device to menu for update wince. Please help me.

Greetings


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 07 Dec 2009 19:46:09
Message:

grooverr,
be more specific ... I don't understand the problems you have ... by mantas program do understand the Main Window (first window that loads after restart when the GPS is not unlocked)?
If your problem is:
1. Lost of the My Flash Disk?
You can fix that by upgrading the OS with FORMAT (option with FORMAT ... not the one without format).
2. Copy the flash from one GPS to other GPS (assuming that both are the same model).
Yes. Check the firmware on the good GPS and check the first page - maybe we already have it - If is not there, download the SMFlash.img from the good GPS and I will extract the winceimg.bin.
If you have other questions please itemize them.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 08 Dec 2009 17:09:09
Message:

g_alin can u explane me what means (unknown image type )when i try to make win ce upgrade with the file that you sent me?
mio moov 360
thank you


Reply author: grooverr
Replied on: 08 Dec 2009 18:21:38
Message:

Hi G alin thanks for the reply.First of all when i try to boot the gps from a reset state nothing happens ..wont start or give me a screen.Whwn i place an SD CARD into the unit and start the 520 the mantas screen is there.Almost as if it is in rom.Tried the format feature from sd card and it doewsn't seem to do anything.The reason i did this was because i had lost the DSK1,on the unit i then installed the sd card(MINUS MANTA)and IGO8 ran fine.Now it is almost as if it is in a loop as far as trying to exit mantas nogo.Thanks


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 08 Dec 2009 20:39:59
Message:

srelioskoz,
"unknown image type" = You write me a message in Greek, I don't understand anything and I ask you again: what?
I need more time to figure out. Probably I need to add more information to image. When I have a new firmware update I will post it on this thread.

grooverr,
"MANTAS SCREEN" = BLUE SCREEN + you have to choose 0- to 4-? Am I right?
You need to have a winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks on the SDCard when you try to upgrade (with FORMAT). And must important, you need to have a compatible firmware with your model.
Again: Check the firmware on the good GPS ... and tell us the Model Number (C520); Region (WEU, NA, AUS ...); Firmware Number (ROM .....).
The MANTAS SCREEN can be disabled later ... to avoid that problem when you RESET the GPS be sure you don't have SDCard inserted into GPS.


Reply author: grooverr
Replied on: 08 Dec 2009 21:26:15
Message:

Iknow this must be frustrating for you.This is a NA unit will give you the steps i have taken.I have the image file on a 4gb card(both files)i inserted the SD card into the unit and got a blue screen with mantas activated.Went to first option to format the device off of sd card.It says it can't find the file.This is the image i backed up on the SD card.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 08 Dec 2009 23:14:22
Message:

ok g_alin i say thank u very much in greek language i dont mean nothing else....only thank you
sorry for my bad english

i will be wating for your new firmware.
thank you again


Reply author: grooverr
Replied on: 08 Dec 2009 23:25:32
Message:

G alin this is the steps i have taken
1 format an SD card and place it in the 520
2 Go wince upgrade
3 option 0 wince by sd/mmc (format)
4 wait twenty minutes ...nothing happenning
5when i try to get out of it by pressing on button i get this
MountDisk SUCCESS
Open CEimage...
can not find WINCEIMG.CKS
Any key to continue
6 I have used the image R48 from your site and placed them in the root directory Still nothing hanks for the patience


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 08 Dec 2009 23:26:38
Message:

srelioskoz,
was only a joke ... :)

grooverr,
Don't use your backup .... upload your back-up somewhere (rapidshare or other place) and I will extract the firmware from that file.
If you don't what to upload the SMFlash.img you can try the firmware that we have available:
C520_NA (R48.3.9937.1026) http://www.4shared.com/file/143829336/5daf761c/C520_NA_ROM_R48399371026.html
use a small card (up to 256M) preferably 128M or 64M for upgrade.

LE: you must copy also the winceimg.cks on the SDCard

LE2: Please read again the way you navigate through menus ("SDCard\documents\menu.txt")


Reply author: grooverr
Replied on: 08 Dec 2009 23:34:41
Message:

G alin im using the file from your site R48.3.9937.1026 and still nothing.I have mANTAS on the card plus the files in the root directory.


Reply author: grooverr
Replied on: 09 Dec 2009 00:08:45
Message:

G alin GREAT news here.Your information about a 16 gb or 32 gb card made the difference.I want to thank you again for the patience.You just made my day,and to you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New year.Grooverr


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Dec 2009 01:20:59
Message:

Merry Christmas to you (and yours) too. :)
Also; please upload the SMFlash.img that you have (it may be different from the ones that we have on first page) - for others users that may have firmware problems.


Reply author: grooverr
Replied on: 09 Dec 2009 01:54:02
Message:

G alin the image that i used was from your download of the various rom images I used the NA R48 and it loaded fine no problem.The original image that i had on the 520 was corrupt which was the reason i started to mess with the thing.Thanks again


Reply author: aaaa1234
Replied on: 09 Dec 2009 11:45:31
Message:

how can I add hebrew language to my rom (or only hebrew support it means that I need to add hebrew fonts and font reverse that i would see the fonts corectt- rihgt to left) to my mio c320?
my rom is r40


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Dec 2009 01:16:35
Message:

srelioskoz,
I have a new firmware .... (is the same link but the file is different)
http://www.4shared.com/file/165538541/90b06686/MOOV_360_ROM.html
Let me know if this one works ... but how did you bricked your GPS? Why you need this firmware upgrade? Are you sure is not a hardware problem?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 10 Dec 2009 07:42:00
Message:

the problem was that some one erase something from inside. and the mio moov did not connect to pc,
one solution for me was to find the blue screen and try too connect to pc
i made the mistake to use the format choise to make format on my flash disk
but format erase all data,now when i start my mio ,on screen i see only the blue screen. if i dont have sd card inside i see black screen i must to push the sd card inside for blue screen.
now i dont have any choice. i need the firmware as u can see
thank u for new firmware i will try it ant i will tell you the results


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Dec 2009 09:01:07
Message:

g_alin,
now I understand .... you Format the SMFlash from Disk Manager (from Control Panel)
But after you format the SMFlash automatically was entering into Blue Screen (when you had the SDCard inserted into GPS)? Or you had to do some hardware changes also (to reconnect some wires inside or to make some short circuits)?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 10 Dec 2009 10:06:32
Message:

i tryed to make instalation from mio more desktop but something was wrong.
after this the moov did not connect again with pc , it was starting but nothing hapens.it saw me an error on screen.i tryed soft resset but nothing
i opened it and i found the samsung electronic part inside.
after this i found from internet how it works (what is the use of all pins)
then i made a short between pin 9 and gnd and a saw the blue screen.
then i press the choise format,after this mio made format and erase everything.
when i start it again i saw a black screen.
when i push inside a sd card mio moov open with the blue screen


Reply author: grooverr
Replied on: 10 Dec 2009 15:42:58
Message:

G alin it sounds likek the same thing that happened to me....Your tip of putting the image alone on a 16 or 32 mg card got me up and going.I tried everything but these 2 cards 4 8 and 16gb but it would not fine the image file.Thanks again


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 10 Dec 2009 15:57:27
Message:

g_alin
it works!!!!!! thank u for your help
the only problem is that when it start with sd it saws me again the blue screen
if i start it up without sd card it starts normally
if i push the sd after normal start,then it works ok
thank u again


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Dec 2009 18:16:29
Message:

srelioskoz,
this is a very good news ...
But because you are the only one that is able to enter into blue screen; are you going to help us with the testing? I am trying to figure out a way to activate / deactivate the blue screen. But because I don't have this model (and I don't know how to enter into the blue screen).
One first thing (to help me) will be to download the SDFlash.img from your device (from the GPS that you repair).
Thank you.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 10 Dec 2009 20:35:13
Message:

g_alin
ok my frient i will try to help as i can
this is the image file from mio that WE repair.
http://rapidshare.com/files/319064136/SMFlash_0_26214400.img.html
but do u mean that i must take image from my flash disk?
if u mean this tell me and i will upload it
but i can not unterstunt y still i have blue image if i start it with sd card inside

ok i made one more image from my mio moov 560 (T550R2.V1.00.0003)
http://rapidshare.com/files/319081585/SMFlash_0_35651584.img.html
but i can not open it now because this application is still with warranty.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Dec 2009 23:23:03
Message:

srelioskoz,
I don't know how did you activated the UPGRADE Screen ... but I can tell you that is activated (maybe when you format the SMFlash ... I don't know for sure) ... but I can tell you that UPGRADE screen is active (open the file from the GPS that we repaired at address 0x0101000 ... if there is "UNLOCKED" you can access the bootloader and do upgrades from Blue Screen). If you check the Good Firmware (that you sent me last week) at 0x0101000 is "LOCKEDUT" ... :)
Now the only question is: how can we write the SMFlash? Any ideas are welcome ...


Reply author: ozmale
Replied on: 11 Dec 2009 00:19:35
Message:

Please bare with me.
I have an original Australian MIO C520. A while ago I performed the mio 2008 upgrade which i understand also upgraded the firmware.

My current "About box says"

Application Package version:- R1.0.07.1117
Rom Version :- C520AUS.V1.9965.0044

I hate the upgrade and am currently using an SD card unlock to run Igo8.

I would really like to return the unit to the way it was before the upgrade (I have the original CD)
Is the firmware upgrade/downgrade process described in this thread what I need to do?
Any other help would be appreciated.

Many thanks
Chris


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 11 Dec 2009 16:31:38
Message:

G_ALIN i made a my flash disk format on my other mio moov 560 to see what happens. when i made it i saw the usb screen. i put the swich to reset and i push inside the sd card but nothing hapens
finally i made upgrade again from mio more desktop.
now..... on my other mio moov 360 therewas a problem before format with image from the good one.
the problem is still on the repered mio
the gps signal is to low or no signal.some times i can see 1,2 satelites but with very low signal.
i thot that with wince upgrade the problem will be fixed.but nothing .the problem is still on my mio.
ok
thank you for your expaining for "unlocked" and "lockedut"


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Dec 2009 17:49:19
Message:

srelioskoz,
Don't play to much with the Format .... is dangerous.
On your Mio Moov 360 you formatted the SMFlash (wince OS, firmware). Now you formatted My Flash Disk (the additional drive that you have with Map software and maps). Regarding your signal problem try to find somewhere a GPS external antenna (barrow it from a friend) ... and perform some tests with the external antenna. I would say that you have a hardware problem with that GPS (with GPS receiver). you can check the voltage on the GPS section also. Use a scope to see the wave form (maybe those DC/DC are not working properly ... You may have too high ripple on the GPS receiver power supply).

ozmale,
The upgrade (actually in your case downgrade) is described in this thread Page 1 - first post.
Read very careful that page, download the firmware C520_AUS ... and if you have questions after you read everything ... before doing the upgrade; ask ... and I will try to answer.


Reply author: ozmale
Replied on: 11 Dec 2009 22:04:37
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

ozmale,
The upgrade (actually in your case downgrade) is described in this thread Page 1 - first post.
Read very careful that page, download the firmware C520_AUS ... and if you have questions after you read everything ... before doing the upgrade; ask ... and I will try to answer.




Thanks for that. I have read post 1 several times and believe I understand the process. My only query was the difference in the firmware format. Mine refers to V1 and the others R39 and R41. Just did not know if this was significant or not.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Dec 2009 22:32:06
Message:

ozmale,
Is very hard to quantify "significant" ... but for sure Rxx firmwares have more components than Vx firmwares.


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 14 Dec 2009 02:04:42
Message:

[quote snipped] @srelioskoz - hi, does the 9 pin has to be connected with Vss on the same chip or not?


Reply author: Dauber
Replied on: 14 Dec 2009 22:54:17
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by navx2vad

the simplest way to get rid of new miomap 2008/9 update on MIO Cx20 devices is

download the firmware update from first page, which ever your device is.
extract the contents on a sd card i.e winceimg.bin & winceimg.cks (root of sd crad)

start your mio, blue screen well come, choose WINCE Image Update > Update from SD Card.
once, done you will get back your old mio, now you can load miomap 3.3 or igo8 or any other software,
also MioPocket is easier to handle.

this method only works on MIO C series devices and is fully reversible, you can go back to new miomap 2008 firmware & vice versa. if any queries/doubts how to downgrade.. post here will try to help.





Hi Navx2vad,

I'm a little confused. I ordered the map update for the C520, which is Miomap 2008. The installation CD also had a firmware update on it along with Miomore Desktop. At the time I didn't know the firmware update completely changed the user interface of the device. It is more like the Moov user interface. Is it possible to downgrade just the firmware to Mio 3.3 and keep the Miomap 2008 upgrades?

The only reason I would want to downgrade is because when using Miopocket, I have no USB Mass Storage or ActiveSync connectivity, unless I remove my SD card, and reboot without Miopocket.

I wanted to see if using Mio 3.3 and Miopocket allows the USB Modes to function.

Osprey exausted all possibilities trying to get USB Modes to work with Miopocket and thought it might be the firmware upgrade and suggested I try this forum thread.

Thanks in advance to you or anyone that might be able to help.

Os


Reply author: theoconst1
Replied on: 15 Dec 2009 15:46:02
Message:

Hi, Alin,
Did you find any free time to try your suggestions on page 10
about the connection of the C520 to GooPs?
Regards. Theo.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Dec 2009 20:16:15
Message:

Sorry theoconst1 ... G7ToCE (http://www.gpsinformation.org/ronh/g7towin.htm#g7toCE) is something the check about ...


Reply author: theoconst1
Replied on: 16 Dec 2009 14:45:22
Message:

Thanks, Alin, for your response. Unfortunately the G7toCE covers
only the Garmin's and especially the RS 232 type (not the USB) and the
HP units. Not the Mio's. Anyway, I will keep searching.


Reply author: Sutunc
Replied on: 17 Dec 2009 11:19:14
Message:

quote:Originally posted by navx2vad

the simplest way to get rid of new miomap 2008/9 update on MIO Cx20 devices is

download the firmware update from first page, which ever your device is.
extract the contents on a sd card i.e winceimg.bin & winceimg.cks (root of sd crad)

start your mio, blue screen well come, choose WINCE Image Update > Update from SD Card.
once, done you will get back your old mio, now you can load miomap 3.3 or igo8 or any other software,
also MioPocket is easier to handle.

this method only works on MIO C series devices and is fully reversible, you can go back to new miomap 2008 firmware & vice versa. if any queries/doubts how to downgrade.. post here will try to help.
---------------------------------------------------
I am going nuts! first I had my mio (details as per below) upgraded to miomap 2008 on the assumption that maps would be updated but ended up with a firmware that really sucks! any way now when I tried to load the old firmware my mio does not seem to communicate with the SD card. I would very much want to use iGo8 and MioPocket somehow. Any help would be appreciated


Reply author: elan22
Replied on: 17 Dec 2009 21:29:56
Message:

Alin,
I have a C520 that had a hebrew rom on it. I tried changing the firmware to a different one but then I do not have flash disk anymore so I always get the message of insufficient memory. In the storage manager I only see DSK1 (SD card) and SMFlash that is 22MB.
If I try to format it I get an error saying it is being used by an application.
I tried all the different 520 roms in the first post but none of them seem to fix this.
I saved the smflash from my unit before I started all this .http://rapidshare.com/files/322245355/SMFlash_0_45088768.rar
Could you extract for me the winceimg.bin from this?
Should that solve the problem with the flash disk? if not what else can I try?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Dec 2009 23:14:43
Message:

elan22,
This is the firmware extracted:
http://www.4shared.com/file/175455159/faa5896f/C520_ISR_ROM_C520ISRV199230049.html
Please let me know if it works.
May fix your problem ... if it doesn't (your problem is Lost of My Flash Disk) you have to perform the upgrades using (with FORMAT) option from UPGRADE Screen.
Perform this upgrade first and let me know ... if doesn't work after that ... I tell you what to do next.

Sutunc,
Do you have an upgrade to MioMap2008 for C220? interesting ... can you download the SMFlash.img from your device? Or tell me where did you find this upgrade? can be downloaded freely?
Yes any device can be reverted to an old firmware (read first page). I recommend you to use firmwares compatible with your Model an Region.


Reply author: elan22
Replied on: 18 Dec 2009 00:37:21
Message:

Alin,
Thanks, I'd already extracted the winceimg and restoring with this seemed to bring back the flash disk.
I guess they must have done something to this device that makes incompatible to other firmwares.
I was hoping to change the firmware because some of the features of the different unlocks don't work on this firmware but I guess I'll have to put up with this the way it is.
Thanks non the less for the help and effort.


Reply author: Sutunc
Replied on: 18 Dec 2009 11:39:31
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

elan22,
This is the firmware extracted:
http://www.4shared.com/file/175455159/faa5896f/C520_ISR_ROM_C520ISRV199230049.html
Please let me know if it works.
May fix your problem ... if it doesn't (your problem is Lost of My Flash Disk) you have to perform the upgrades using (with FORMAT) option from UPGRADE Screen.
Perform this upgrade first and let me know ... if doesn't work after that ... I tell you what to do next.

Sutunc,
Do you have an upgrade to MioMap2008 for C220? interesting ... can you download the SMFlash.img from your device? Or tell me where did you find this upgrade? can be downloaded freely?
Yes any device can be reverted to an old firmware (read first page). I recommend you to use firmwares compatible with your Model an Region.



g_alin
you got me wrong! I upgraded to Miomap2008 from mio V3.3 and am not happy with it at all..I tried to downgrade but the program asks for a DVD with Mio programs. can you tell me where I can download the original miomap v3.3 CD. Alternatively I would be more than happy if you can tell me a way to unlock my mio (with given details)as is ie.,with miomap 2008. I understand nobody has been successful yet..
regards


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Dec 2009 20:48:32
Message:

Sutunc,
The original DVD with Mio V3.3 came with the Mio GPS (in the same box there was a DVD). Use that DVD to recover the GPS software (MioMap v3.3) and GPS maps.
I could try to help you to unlock your firmware with MioMap2008; but unfortunately I don't know anything about it (I don't even know that exist this update). After I will see (and download) this update, I will take a look at the software and I can try to give some ideas what to try. But until I don't see this software is practically impossible for me to tell you how to unlock your device.


Reply author: ozmale
Replied on: 18 Dec 2009 21:45:23
Message:

Sutunc (and anyone else interested)

I have the original DVD that came with my Australian C520 with MioMap 3.3. I am happy to zip it up and upload to somewhere if people want it.


Reply author: Sutunc
Replied on: 18 Dec 2009 22:29:42
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by ozmale

Sutunc (and anyone else interested)

I have the original DVD that came with my Australian C520 with MioMap 3.3. I am happy to zip it up and upload to somewhere if people want it.



I would imagine there should be no difference in terms of the device since mine is C220 so I would really appreciate if you can upload the CD so I can give it a try


Reply author: Sutunc
Replied on: 18 Dec 2009 22:32:13
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

Sutunc,
The original DVD with Mio V3.3 came with the Mio GPS (in the same box there was a DVD). Use that DVD to recover the GPS software (MioMap v3.3) and GPS maps.
I could try to help you to unlock your firmware with MioMap2008; but unfortunately I don't know anything about it (I don't even know that exist this update). After I will see (and download) this update, I will take a look at the software and I can try to give some ideas what to try. But until I don't see this software is practically impossible for me to tell you how to unlock your device.



g_alin
would you like me to upload it somewhere or can you get your hands on elsewhere pls advise


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Dec 2009 22:40:40
Message:

Sutunc,
On the MioMap2008 CD should be some folder "FirmwareUpgrade" or "FirmwareUpdate" or something with 'firmware' on the name. If you upload that folder somewhere I can try to figure out some unlock for this firmware also.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 Dec 2009 20:11:44
Message:

Sutunc,
Lets wait for Supremo's decision ... and we'll see after ...


Reply author: Supremo
Replied on: 21 Dec 2009 15:47:27
Message:

Operationally, I don't see a lot off difference between extracting firmware directly from a device (which has been allowed so far) and taking it off a CD. We may be treading a line here, but I won't stop it unless I get overruled.


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 21 Dec 2009 16:36:26
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by srelioskoz

i connect the 9 pin with gnd and then i put power button to on position
then comes blue screen
u can find gnd on every metal cover



so i have to connect just 9 pin with some meatal cover on the same chip or not?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 21 Dec 2009 20:43:48
Message:

http://rapidshare.com/files/324048646/moov330pcbback_1_.jpg.html

daliokas look this image and you will understand what i mean.
with red color is the wire. first put the sd card in to mio
1)put the power button to RESET position
2)carefully connect the wire as you see on the picture(i use this tool)http://rapidshare.com/files/329911841/electric_car_tool_.JPG.html 12ohm resistance
3)put the power button to ON position
4)you will see the blue screen
5)take the wire from the connect
6)if you want the normal screen put again the power swich to RESET position
7)if you want to make a selection when you have blue screen, touch on screen and then put the power buton to OFF and then ON position
8)DO NOT MAKE FORMAT SELECTION IF YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHIT FIRMWARE


Reply author: Lukassz_PL
Replied on: 23 Dec 2009 12:03:28
Message:

and where can I find flash mio moov n179?
the link above does not work ...


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 27 Dec 2009 14:31:16
Message:

srelioskoz
Can You upload the image again?Thank You


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 27 Dec 2009 19:59:02
Message:

daliokas this is the new link
http://rapidshare.com/files/326672029/moov330pcbback_1_.jpg.html


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 28 Dec 2009 14:21:39
Message:

thank You very much, srelioskoz....HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 29 Dec 2009 12:54:26
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by daliokas

thank You very much, srelioskoz....HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!


ur welcome daliokas .happy new year.
tell me if u make to see blue screen on your mio


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 31 Dec 2009 14:17:24
Message:


[/quote] ur welcome daliokas .happy new year.
tell me if u make to see blue screen on your mio
[/quote]
i can not see the blue screen, then i connect a wire to 9 pin nothing happens.i think the problem is than i have mio moov 330 and it has samsung K9GAG08U0M chip not K9LAG08U0M. i can not find info about K9GAG08U0M pinouts:(


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 31 Dec 2009 18:52:07
Message:

daliokas look this link .on 4 page u can see the pinout of k9gago8uom.
but i thing it is the same pin 9 like my application.
try this.
from reset position put the switch to on position and quickly short the pin 9 with gnd before mio start with orange screen.


http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/datasheets/qi_lb60/U9~K9GAG08U0M~~2GB-FINAL_NAND-NOT_ON_SOME_PROTOTYPES~~.pdf


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 03 Jan 2010 16:55:32
Message:

quote:


try this.
from reset position put the switch to on position and quickly short the pin 9 with gnd before mio start with orange screen.




then i tried this the orange screen stopped and nothing happens... i no ieda how to get blue screen on my device:(


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 04 Jan 2010 20:20:45
Message:

ok daliokas i thing i fount out what is the solution of your problem.
before you make the connect with pin 9
first put in the mio moov one sd card.
then make a sort between pin 9 and gnd.
then put the power button to on posision.
i thing that will works.
please tell me if you make it.
to help you i uploaded a this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKM7C_6UYkw


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 05 Jan 2010 09:10:55
Message:

Hello guys,greetings from Slovakia,
on the beginning,sorry for my bad english.

i was owner of Mio C250,used many hacks from this site to modify my device...Was always up tp date,Igo8,all works fine,and a became some experience with pna modifying.Now my pal bought a Mio Moov 330 and i would help him to upgrade the device with Igo8...I begin with deleting of MioMap and replacing with Igo8,but it doesnt work..Then i find the file ,,AppStartupSec.exe,, and i try to modify this file via ,,AppStartupSec.ini,,...My last modify was,that i remove from device both files,and i rename Igo8.exe to AppStartupSec.exe....Yes,i know guys,it was a ,,bad touch,, but i doesnt know,that this file is a key to load the device...I thought it is just something like a ,,run-command,,..The biggest problem is,that if i push power on the GPS,he want to start the Igo8 automatically,but i become only a error message from Igo-cannot load picture loading.bmp. I want to repair this /my/ mistake,but now i cannot connect to the device.It doesnt show in my computer,or in device manager.I try to switch fast from reset to on,sometimes i became a screen for connection but it freezes for a second,and then comes once more the igo8 error message.i try to insert a sd-card,i dont know if i do all the things good or not: i made a cobia_410_64 folder on a SD CARD,the put there mortscript,auto.exe,auto.mscr files with command,bud the only thing that the machine do,is restarting after i put the card out.What have i sad,the biggest problem is,that the device is from my pal from work,i would to help him and now i made problems...S**T! Im waiting with cable,screwdriver in my hands for your help.Its possible to make a little donation for your help of course.Im just serching somebody,who is willing to help me.maybe online via messengers or on board..maybe can we help other users with this problem.

guys,thank you very much

Robert


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 05 Jan 2010 23:25:13
Message:

dwnldr,
did you tried srelioskoz method (previous post)?


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 05 Jan 2010 23:45:57
Message:

g_alin,

thank you very much for your reply!i read here,that you are the biigest ,,macgiver,, inin gps :) If i good understand ,,srelioskoz method,, is the pin reset or so?If yes,its no problem to try it,but...I dont know how to remove the back cover /4screws have i give out/ and i dont know whats next...The other thing is,that have i read about bridging the pins..I have found something about pin 1-2,2-3,then 9...i dont understand so...Its no problem to try any version of repair,but if i doesnt now what to do,i cannot do anything :( Have you maybe some reason ohow can i do that?

thank you very much alin

Robert - Slovakia


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 02:54:49
Message:

dwnldr,
watch this youtube movie first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKM7C_6UYkw
I don't have a Moov GPS to show you how to unscrew the 4 screws. If you manage to enter into BLUE SCREEN I can try to help you ... otherwise I don't know how to help you.


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 13:00:46
Message:

alin,

thank you..i have seen this video...4screws have i dona,are out,but i dont know whatsnext,how can i remove the back cover..Iam searching on internet about pictures,how to remove the back cover,but i cannot find anything and i wont experiment,or broken the cover..it try to find some solution to remove the cover.Maybe if SRELIOSKOZ made a manual how to remove it..the a itry to do all whats on the video and find the 9th PIN from left to right as i see on the video..And then,maybe i become the blue screen,whats the next step?Or whats that blue screen?

thank you

Robert


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 14:20:54
Message:

ok i will upload a new video to show you how to open the back cover of mio moov..
this is the new video ...HOW TO OPEN MIO MOOV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLKSG3U2VYk


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 17:10:40
Message:

srelioskoz + alin you are both fantastic!!!I HAVE THE BLUE SCREEN!!!!But guys,whats next??What should i do to repair the navi??I have there a upgrade menu!!I dont turn off the device.i will waiting for you answear.It is mio moov 330.Thank you guys!!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 17:26:02
Message:

ok dwnldr ... now g_alin must to send you the firmware of moov 330
you will put it in sd card and you choose sd upgrade .if you touch on screen you make a choose then put the power button to of and then on position.
the program starts and reload the firmware.
then you must to have the mio more desktop from the cd of this application for make reload the mio map program and maps. but dont try to erase again something from inside.
there is more simple way to unlock mio moov.
if you fix mio i will show you how to unlock it.


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 17:52:37
Message:

srelioskoz - thank you,but its over...KO..FINISH....I leave the mio powered up with blue screen,after 5min i want to made i selection but the only i see was black screen..doesnt power up,if i connect him to pc,than the pc freezes...i dont know what was that...but i think its over...


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 17:57:48
Message:

no i thing that your batery is over. put the power button to reset position and recharge the batery first.then you will do again the steps to see the blue screen.
do not make any selection until galin send you the firmware.
he will tell you what you must to do.


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 17:58:58
Message:

but,why freezes the pc if i connect the mio via usb?


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 18:03:02
Message:

ok,i have pulled out the battery and it runs!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 18:03:04
Message:

just recharge it and wait for gallin,s message
i thing it is not a problem
put inside the sd card and start it


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 18:07:02
Message:

srelioskoz - i dont know now..i try to start it,it doesnt run...then once time was all ok...and now it replays..i cannot start it /the baterry was fully recharged after bleu screen/...which contact made this problem now...?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 18:14:11
Message:

put inside the sd card and try restart it or first restart and then push inside the sd card.
and tell me what happens


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 18:21:19
Message:

now runs all ok,i leave it on pc and charge it...but i dont know what was the PC freezing after i connect it to USB...It wasnt just a empty battery.Was something another,like a battery problem /with + - or so/ i dont know...now it seems to be ok...I leave it...The boot screen and updating via SD itsno problem for me,i think...I need now just to know,what a kind of win ce can i flash..I have wince image from moov 300 /this is 330,european,cobia 410 64...by starting cobia 410 64.......28 /


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 18:29:14
Message:

ok i am happy for this.
now wait for gallin,s message for more help.
he will tell you if you can reload another firmware


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 18:52:22
Message:

srelios - ok,thank you very much for your help!you are awesome!I love now greeks no just for beach,ouzo,but also for helpness :) iam waiting for galin-s firmware or iam searching another..I can come back always to the boot screen..Just a last question.I know hot to navigate in boot menu,tapping the screen and pull from on to off and back to on.Thats the confirmation...If i choose a winCE installing from SD,a made a on-off thing,and it starts to install?Thank you!OUZO RULES!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 19:04:44
Message:

write the 2 files in sd card winceimage.nls and winceimage.cks
then make mio to see blue screen
then
0=wince upgrade off-on
1=wince by sd/mmc off-on


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 19:54:22
Message:

OK,i have installed a rom which i have found in this topic,from moov 360...I install it with format..Now i power on the device,it shows the pc connection,i connect it via USB and i see the flash disk!very good...Now i copy the backup files from desktop to this mio..The Device.xml has another content now,like in my backup..Should i leave this device /device.xml from moov360/ or can i copy from backup the /device.xml from moov330/.What do you think?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 20:05:29
Message:

very good...dwnldr

take now the cd with mio more desktop and reload mio map program and the map
then try it.
if it works ok you dont need to reload the 330 firmware
if you need to unlock it tell me to show you how to make it
nice work.congratulations
leave this xml
this image firmware was from my mio moov 360 :)


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 20:11:46
Message:

srelios - your work is nice...i just repeat your steps and i made from dead GPS a working one..I have backup only in desktop.I have copy all the files /clm,program files to desktop.../ to my pc and now back...Now,i dont know whats wrong.All the files are in Mio.I power up the GPS,MioMap begins starting,and then comes a black screen and i can only reset...Hmmmm...I have replaced device.xml with original....I dont know if its now problem with backup or so,or it makes trouble because i have 360 win ce.But it can be still connected via PC and run.So we can modify the files.srelios,what do you think?


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 20:13:09
Message:

srelios - your work is nice...i just repeat your steps and i made from dead GPS a working one..I have backup only in desktop.I have copy all the files /clm,program files to desktop.../ to my pc and now back...Now,i dont know whats wrong.All the files are in Mio.I power up the GPS,MioMap begins starting,and then comes a black screen and i can only reset...Hmmmm...I have replaced device.xml with original....I dont know if its now problem with backup or so,or it makes trouble because i have 360 win ce.But it can be still connected via PC and run.So we can modify the files.srelios,what do you think?

EDIT:i have connected him by black screen to pc and i see the message low battery..so the backup well be ok...and now?mio pocket?what do you think srelios?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 20:22:02
Message:


now you must have the cd with mio map from 360 application....
mio pocket is very good program but if you want a light unlock
i will send you a program to unlock it from your pc and then you can run any program like igo 8,destinator, etc
ok maybe you must recharge it again
ok this is the link. download it connect your mio to pc and run setup.exe then press unlock
when it writes unlocked close mio moov and disconnect it
you can lock again the application with same program
http://rapidshare.com/files/331339941/mio_unlocker.rar.html
ps.thanks goes to gallin because he create this page and i helped from him to fix my mio


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 20:59:38
Message:

srelioz,thank you..

unlock installed..now if i power up mio,i became a desktop like in windows,with one icon /smart/.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 21:20:52
Message:

now you can put the programs in sd card and you can run them from there. i will show you how to make sortcut on your screen
you can see up left side of scren (start)
1 press start
2 press fileman ce
3 press storage card
4 press the file with the program you wand to run for example igo 8
5 fint igo8.exe and press on it 1 time it will be blue
6 press up left side e leter .it means file but there is a flag on it
7 press create a sortcut and then ok
8 connect mio to pc
9 open my computer
10 find storage card and open file igo 8
11 find the shortcut that you create and make a copy
12 go to my computer again and open mio device
13 open program files, then unlock ,then desktop
14 make paste
close your mio take of usb cable and open again mio
you will see the new shortcut press on it and the program start
you may have many programs in your sd card and many sortcats on your screen


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 21:29:21
Message:

ok,so now i install some programs...i try first to rename the link on desktop smart to miomap and the install another programs...Link creating like i think : i put programs in folder,then a create a link a move to my flash disk/unlock/desktop folder?it is right?

thank srelios for all!

robert


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 21:36:29
Message:

dwnldr and srelioskoz,
http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
(if you want to try ...)


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 21:41:03
Message:

hallo galin, robert have install firmware from moov 360 and it works!!!!!!!!!!
robert look up my post you will see what to do
do not erase something from mio


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 21:43:35
Message:

srelioskoz,
I sow it ... but if he wants ... him can try to load the original one from MOOV330_EU. This way is going to be able to choose the firmware that works better. :) .


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 21:46:46
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

srelioskoz,
I sow it ... but if he wants ... him can try to load the original one from MOOV330_EU. This way is going to be able to choose the firmware that works better. :) .


yes i agree with you


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 06 Jan 2010 22:18:19
Message:

srelioz,alin,thank you for fantastic help...I think i cannot try nov to modify the firmware,because i have copleted the mio,the front cover,screws,and im happy,that i can give back the device modified to my pal...I try now to install some new programs...Just a littbe bit thing...I started the Mio,go to start-settings...i set up all the things,but after restart its cleared.its all default..Exist maybe some solution how to save the setup /time,wallpaper......./ ?

robert


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 08:31:01
Message:

So the FW from Moov360 works also on Moov330,but you doesnt have SOUND!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 13:05:13
Message:

when you opened the mio moov you disconnect the headphone cable.
have you connected it again.have you forgoten it?
:)


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 14:02:40
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by srelioskoz

write the 2 files in sd card winceimage.nls and winceimage.cks
then make mio to see blue screen
then
0=wince upgrade off-on
1=wince by sd/mmc off-on


then i choose 1=wince by sd/mmc nothing happens. i am using 8GB SD card maybe its to big?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 14:30:27
Message:

quote:
NO NEED TO QUOTE A MESSAGE DIRECTLY ABOVE YOURS, MAKES THE FORUMS EASIER TO READ, THANKS ;-) GPSPASSION TEAM

choose by wince by sd/mmc format .it is the other choice i thing
if nothing happens again try a smaller card and tell me what happens


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 14:43:37
Message:

quote:
NO NEED TO QUOTE A MESSAGE DIRECTLY ABOVE YOURS, MAKES THE FORUMS EASIER TO READ, THANKS ;-) GPSPASSION TEAM
still nothing happens:(


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 14:51:52
Message:

daliokas you have the blue screen.
do you try the righit firmware?
what is your mio? 300? 330? 360?
if you make a choice on screen you must put off and on again the power button.
IMPORTANT if you make rong choise you must close (reset mio ) and follow again the steps for blue screen


Reply author: dankec
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 15:13:50
Message:

Please, I have one newbie question:

I have digiwalk c520 with SD-free Miopocket installation and R02+3+9911+1018 firmware version...
Should I upgrade my device to a newer firmvare version and is it connected with MioPocket at all?
What do you suggest?


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 15:34:09
Message:

[NOTE BY ADMIN – PLEASE READ EMAIL SENT VIA THE FORUMS – DELETE NOTE AFTER READING, THANKS]


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 15:37:38
Message:

daliokas - i made this upgrade yesterday 3times without problems...Have you done what srelioz tells you?

1 - Have you Blue Screen ?
2 - On SD card,root folder insert 2 wince files /no folder,nothing/
3 - 0-WinCE Update OFF-ON
4 - x-WinCE by SD/MMC or x-WinCE by SD/MMC Format OFF-ON

thats all
It runs perfect.Srelios+alin for president :)

Robert


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 16:17:19
Message:

yes i have blue screen
on SD i inserted 2 winCE files from g_alin post
then i choose wince update format or without format nothing happens..

i have mio moov 330...


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 16:28:29
Message:

daliokas.
1)every time you try to make a choise and nothing happens then you must put to reset position the power button and follow again the steps for blue screen
2)try a smaller card no SDHC
3)try to format your sd card to FAT no FAT32


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 16:31:26
Message:

Robert, what capacity SD card you have used?


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 16:38:56
Message:

srelioskoz,
then i take the card out i get a message "MountDisk SUCCESS, Open CEimage..., can not find WINCEIMG.CKS"


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 16:41:31
Message:

[NOTE BY ADMIN – PLEASE READ EMAIL SENT VIA THE FORUMS – DELETE NOTE AFTER READING, THANKS]

daliokas - i have used 2GB classic SD card. /no sdhc or so/...Format it via Windows,default FAT..Copy the 2files wince to root of the card...I think,you have problems with card,FW images....It is there one reason via USB,but i dont know how to works.But i cannot believe,that card and images are ok.Otjerwise it need to run.

And if you became a message after putting the card out,then it runs..or it want to read from card,but you pulled out..I think its problem with card or file system /FAT/


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 07 Jan 2010 17:37:39
Message:

daliokas in your sd you must have winceimage.nls and winceimage.cks
http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html from g_allin
download this link open the file and you will see winceimage.nls and winceimage.cks
put this 2 files to sd card and try again


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 13:01:01
Message:

now my mio is working, but the miomap2008 do not starts, the orange screen shows and device restarts...i have used wince from g_alin and the software from my dvd...


Reply author: MasterSed
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 14:39:00
Message:

srelioskoz

I don't know exactly witch is the 9 pin.


Can you put another link with this image?
http://rapidshare.com/files/326672029/moov330pcbback_1_.jpg.html

This link is broken or something like that.

Thank you.


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 14:48:01
Message:

MasterSed this works
http://rapidshare.com/files/332196418/moov330pcbback_1_.jpg.html


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 15:03:19
Message:

i did the same mistake, now i know never edit path.xml.
i had to get blue screen and rewrite winCE.
read all srelioskoz's posts


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 16:57:58
Message:

mastersed
http://rapidshare.com/files/332242640/FileManCE.exe.html
maybe this will help you
as you say your mio load igo from sd
down load this file
put it in your sd card in your file from igo 8
then rename it as igo8.exe and the old igo8.exe to igo81.exe
if it starts you will see fileman ce screen
1)open folder windows and fint usbscreen.exe
connect your usb and open usbscreen.exe.
the pc will connect with your mio
2)then change again the xml folder as it was
i dont now if it will works but try it


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 17:30:54
Message:

srelioskoz
now my mio is working, but the miomap2008 do not starts, the orange screen shows and device restarts...i have used wince from g_alin and the software from my dvd...


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 17:48:01
Message:

daliokas
this is a post that i wrote before maybe it will help you. but before you do this tell me.did you reload the map from cd? if you didn it,mio map start and restart again and again.please reload the map from cd.

i will send you a program to unlock it from your pc and then you can run any program like igo 8,destinator, etc

ok this is the link. download it connect your mio to pc and run setup.exe then press unlock
when it writes unlocked close mio moov and disconnect it
you can lock again the application with same program
http://rapidshare.com/files/331339941/mio_unlocker.rar.html
or
http://www.4shared.com/file/191695336/56399d3d/mio_unlocker.html


now you can put the programs in sd card and you can run them from there. i will show you how to make sortcut on your screen
you can see up left side of scren (start)
1 press start
2 press fileman ce
3 press storage card
4 press the file with the program you wand to run for example igo 8
5 fint igo8.exe and press on it 1 time it will be blue
6 press up left side e leter .it means file but there is a flag on it
7 press create a sortcut and then ok
8 connect mio to pc
9 open my computer
10 find storage card and open file igo 8
11 find the shortcut that you create and make a copy
12 go to my computer again and open mio device
13 open program files, then unlock ,then desktop
14 make paste
close your mio take of usb cable and open again mio
you will see the new shortcut press on it and the program start
you may have many programs in your sd card and many sortcats on your screen


Reply author: MasterSed
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 19:38:06
Message:

I managed to make it connect through USB again with srelioskoz method. Open the device, find the 9 pin etc.

srelioskoz thank you very much.

I copied files from MioDesktop DVD back to flash directory including the original full Europe map and Miomap is starting correctly.

But when I restart the device with an SD card in it, I get the blue screen again. Why's that?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 20:25:35
Message:

and my application made this 3-4 times and then it stopped and now starts normally
i dont know why
if you have mio pocket install it and make a hard reset from miopocket
or let it to on position antill your battery finnish and charge it again
http://www.4shared.com/file/136397481/8045bcae/UPGRADE_MIO_29Sep09.html

or download this file from galin. open upgrade file take the file w_coredll and put it in sd card.then unlock mio moov and run cUPGADE from this file.it will ask you if you wand USERMODE or SUPERMODE.choose supermode
and then restart mio with out sd
i thing that it will work again normally



G_ALIN I JUST FOUND SOMETHING IMPORTAND
if you run in mio moov this file and choose USERMODE and then restart your mio moov with sd card inside ,then you can have the upgrade screen. :)
if you choose super mode and restart mio with sd you have normal screen


Reply author: MasterSed
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 21:04:14
Message:

I'll leave it like this.
the Mio belongs to my father and he doesn't need Miopocket. The Navigation software is on the flash memory.
So he doesn't need a card.

Thank you for the help.
The Mio Service asked 85 EUR to repair it.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 21:08:15
Message:

no my friend i jast found the solution read my post again and download the file that i say or if you cant do this i will make it for you.
you will put it in sd and when you start your mio it will run by it self
just tell me if you wand to make it

ok download this file put it in your sd and start your mio moov 360
the file will start by it self and ask you for normal mode or super mode .
choose supermode and restart your application
http://rapidshare.com/files/332342328/cobia_420_64.rar.html
or
http://www.4shared.com/file/191674275/ad12bab0/cobia_420_64.html


Reply author: MasterSed
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 21:49:40
Message:

I tried and I choose supermode and after that it ask if I want to permit ubut tool.
What to do?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 21:54:52
Message:

ok to all it ask you


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 22:32:31
Message:

srelioskoz - my friend,question...if i put the files from link you have posted /cobia_420_64/ it will run automatically?And if i choose user /normal/ mode,then every time if i reset the device with SDcard inside,i became the boot screen?....I just ask,because i became another Mio /maybe for testing/,then can we play with WinCE without PIN and so....

G alin - have you read my post about full WinCE flashing?3-4 posts back i think....What do you think about it?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 23:24:12
Message:

srelioskoz,
Very interesting ... i remember that someone (kener) tried already the program cUPGRADE on MOOV and the device restarted after 2 sec (http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=127723&whichpage=3) .
Can you help me with something ....
start cUPGRADE; activate SuperMode and save SMFlash.img, after that activate NormalMode and save (again) the SMFlash.img. Zip those two files and upload them somewhere ... to take a look at them. Thank you.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 08 Jan 2010 23:53:51
Message:

dwnldr
yes it will ran automatically
if u choose normalmode then you have upgrade screen
and if you choose supermode then you have normal screen

g_alin i will try to do that you ask me

ok this is the uploaded file with 2 images of mio moov 360
http://www.4shared.com/file/191772634/57476b87/mio_moov_360_image.html


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 01:01:38
Message:

srelioskoz,
Yes ... I see ... the settings are changed ... that is a great finding ...
Interesting is that is working backwards like C series ... but if we know that, is OK ... we will use it like that.
Now srelioskoz (after all the new information) can you add all the information (sometime ... when you'll have time) to write a short version of "how to upgrade MOOV series" (unfortunately I don't have a MOOV gps ...) ... and I will posted on first page. This way I will keep it updated and I will extract new firmwares (when users will need other firmwares).


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 01:41:54
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by dwnldr

srelioskoz - my friend,question...if i put the files from link you have posted /cobia_420_64/ it will run automatically?And if i choose user /normal/ mode,then every time if i reset the device with SDcard inside,i became the boot screen?....I just ask,because i became another Mio /maybe for testing/,then can we play with WinCE without PIN and so....

G ALIN - have you read my post about full WinCE flashing?3-4 posts back i think....What do you think about it?

I want ask you,in your lite unlock /pna desktop/ is possible to somehow save the windows settings?



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 01:56:38
Message:

dwnldr
"G alin - have you read my post about full WinCE flashing?3-4 posts back i think....What do you think about it?"
No. I didn't found your post (maybe was edited by ADMIN). Can you post your question again?
if "I want ask you,in your lite unlock /pna desktop/ is possible to somehow save the windows settings?" this is your question ... I don't understand what lite unlock are you talking about!? C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_3 ? this is for C220 not for MOOV ... and beside that "windows settings" ... whats that? please be more specific.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 11:13:01
Message:

ok i will write something for how to upgrade and somthing for how to fix your mio if it can not connected with pc.
but i dont know good english.


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 12:24:46
Message:

g alin - so,the first question-speculation was abou full WinCE /5 or 6/ flashing viw the blue screen to Moov...You know,that i have tried first to flash the FW do Moov330 from Moov360 and it works.The only thing,that doesnt works was the sound...Then have i speculate about full WinCE flashing /no unlock,full WinCE/...You are the biggest SW guru,that i know.If we modify a full WinCE image,add the needed files /device.xml,paths.xml,appstartupsec.sec,appstartupsec.ini/ to image and configure this files,maybe can we done it,and install the full windows to this device.What do you think about it?The system allow you to flash any FW /i think/,and if we configure appstartupsec.exe to run ,,wince.exe,, /idont know if is the run-boot file for system/ or if we rename ,,wince.exe,, to appstartupsec...What do you think?

and the second question was about saving setting.I mean the mio unlocker.
http://rapidshare.com/files/331339941/mio_unlocker.rar.html

You run setup.exe an clicks to install desktop..You know which unlock i mean?You go to Setiings /control Panel/,you can set up some settings.Time,date,wallpaper and so....But if you reset the device,you lost all the settings,what is normal,because we are talking about script..My question is,it is possible to configure some files,and then you have your settings saved...It is possible?

Thanks alin

Robert


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 15:38:57
Message:

ok g_alin i have collect all the informations for how to upgrade firmware and how to fix the usb connection problem. sorry for my bad english .you can fix any mistake i have.

FIRST OF ALL DO NOT TRY ANYTHING IN YOUR MIO BEFORE YOU READ ALL THIS POST
IF YOU DONT SEE YOUR MIOs FIRMWARE DO NOT TRY WITH ANOTHER ONE

1)how to upgrade mio moov firmware
http://www.4shared.com/file/191674275/ad12bab0/cobia_420_64.html
download this file and put it in your sd card(this is for mio moov 360 if you have another mio moov you must rename the file )
Moov 150 - European: Cobia_300L_32, North American: Cobia_300L_32_NA, Australian: Cobia_300L_32_AU
Moov 200 - European: Cobia_300_32, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_32_AU
Moov 200u - European: Cobia_300_64, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_64_AU
Moov 210 - European: Cobia_T300_32, North American: Cobia_T300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T300_32_AU
Moov 300 - European: Cobia_400_64, North American: Cobia_400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_400_64_AU
Moov 310 - European: Cobia_T400_64, North American: Cobia_T400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T400_64_AU
Moov 330 - European: Cobia_410_64, North American: Cobia_410_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_410_64_AU
Moov 360 - European: Cobia_420_64, North American: Cobia_420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_420_64_AU
Moov 370 - European: Cobia_T420_64, North American: Cobia_T420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T420_64_AU
Moov 500 - European: Cobia_500_64, North American: Cobia_500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_500_64_AU
Moov 500 R2 - European: Cobia500R2, North American: Cobia500R2_NA, Australian: Cobia500R2_AU
Moov 510 - European: Cobia_T500_64, North American: Cobia_T500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T500_64_AU
Moov 560 - European: Cobia_520_64, North American: Cobia_520_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_520_64_AU
Moov 580 - European: Cobia_T550_64, North American: Cobia_T550_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T550_64_AU


when you start up your mio this program will start by it self and will ask you if you wand USERMODE or SUPERMODE
choose USERMODE and OK to all it ask you.
then put power button to reset position and on again
your mio moov will start with blue upgrade screen.

download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card
startup your mio and you can see blue upgrade screen
tuch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off and then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio without sd card and connect it to pc
open mio more desktop and write again mio map program and the map.
then put the power buton to reset position and put the power button to on position
when you see the black screen with firmware of your mio ,push inside the sd card
your mio will ask you if you wond USERMODE or SUPERMODE ....choose SUPERMODE and ok to all it ask you

this is the firmware for mio moov 330 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html

firmware of moov 360 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/165538541/90b06686/MOOV_360_ROM.html

firmware of mio 300 europe
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/MOOV300_winceimg.zip




2)How to repear your mio if no connection with pc
look this video to found how to make mio moov upgrade screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKM7C_6UYkw

look this video how to open mio moov application
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLKSG3U2VYk

look this link .on 4 page u can see the pinout of cobia electronic part
http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/datasheets/qi_lb60/U9~K9GAG08U0M~~2GB-FINAL_NAND-NOT_ON_SOME_PROTOTYPES~~.pdf


first put the sd card in to mio
1)put the power button to RESET position
2)carefully connect the wire as you see on the picture http://www.4shared.com/file/192360271/79584b60/moov330pcbback1.html
3)put the power button to ON position
4)you will see the blue screen
5)take the wire from the connect
6)if you want the normal screen put again the power swich to RESET position
7)if you want to make a selection when you have blue screen, touch on screen and then put the power buton to OFF and then ON position
8)DO NOT MAKE FORMAT SELECTION IF YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHIT FIRMWARE

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card
with blue upgrade screen tuch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio and connect it to pc
open mio more desktop and write again mio map program and the map.

i d like to say thanks to g_alin for his help
STELIOS FROM GREECE


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 16:07:37
Message:

srelioskoz/g_alin

Thanks this looks great.
i will give it a tryout on my moov 330
when i have time to spare.


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 16:55:17
Message:

i am using mioDesktop software then i choose reinstall software on your mio nothing happens
then i put files from cd to mio flash memory and try to run miomap2008, the program tries to run but restarts..


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 17:24:10
Message:

it restarts because you dont have install your map or it can not see the map that you have install
find the map from your cd and put it in miomap folder
open your cd and find the file 'maps/program files/miomap/inside this file is the map
make acopy and then paste in your mio moov in the folder programfiles/ miomap


Reply author: MasterSed
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 19:18:38
Message:

srelioskoz,

Ok.
I did what you say.
The Mio is starting correctly with an sd card in it.

I managed to unlock it, too.
I instaled MioMap 2008 and IGO8 and everything it's OK.

Thank you for your help.


Reply author: nanotek
Replied on: 09 Jan 2010 21:17:34
Message:

@ALIN

hello
I have a bricked h610 and a good one
I tried to extract a working rom from working device using software from first page, one of the programs did not work but the other did, it created a 30 mb file
opening it with hexeditor and noticed that the begining of file is different from other images, how I clean the crap from begining and maybe crap from the end and add header required for flashing it to the device?

here is the dump of a working h610, pleas make it flash-able
H610-NA - V38.2.0153.1010
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TSV6QDLL
http://www.4shared.com/file/193517249/3779c91/h_610_dump_bkondisk.html

made with bkondisk (I have run it from miopocket and then copied the image to the sd card and then uploaded here)


extraction log looks like this:

di0: 02040040 00000008 00000032 0000015e 000007d0 00000032 00003eb8 00000000 00000002 305900ec 32324266 37313532 06071414
pi0.2: 00000002 00000001 00000002 00000002
saving 0: 512:512 to \bk_02_0002.img
pi0.4: 00000004 00000001 0000000a 000000f0
saving 0: 2560:61440 to \bk_04_000a.img
pi0.8: 00000008 00000001 000000fa 00003dbe
saving 0: 64000:4046336 to \bk_08_00fa.img


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 10 Jan 2010 12:05:33
Message:

First of all thanks srelioskoz, for all this discovers!
and did you have a rom image for moov 300 North America? because I did sh*t (I do format , in my blue screen menus, before read all of topics... so now I only have 2 states black screen without sd card or blue screen with sd card, no more initial orange screen of mio, mi mio was locked im this orange screen, no usb, no read from sd card, just frozen at mios orang screen, so I found your posts about pin 9 blue screen trick, at first not work for me, so I watch the videou you did on youtube and realize, about sd card insert before jump pin 9 and turn on unit. and after insert sd card on my moov 300, blue screen shows. and im my full ignorance about the menus, I executed FORMAT and the rest is history. and I call for help if some can point a link with firmware of cobia 400 na 64 mio moov 300 north america unit, so many thanks for all! ( I tryed moov 300 euro version but no work, error message: Unknown image type Any key to continue. and not work.
thanks from Brazil !!!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 10 Jan 2010 12:25:44
Message:

lazarusbr.
just wait for g_alins message.i think he will say to you what to do for your mios image
but if you have a friend with the same mio moov you can take a image file from his application
http://www.4shared.com/file/193164320/1637d86c/1DiskRW.html
(this is a program from g_alins post)
download it unrar it put it in a sd card and rename the file us your mio
Moov 150 - European: Cobia_300L_32, North American: Cobia_300L_32_NA, Australian: Cobia_300L_32_AU
Moov 200 - European: Cobia_300_32, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_32_AU
Moov 200u - European: Cobia_300_64, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_64_AU
Moov 210 - European: Cobia_T300_32, North American: Cobia_T300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T300_32_AU
Moov 300 - European: Cobia_400_64, North American: Cobia_400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_400_64_AU
Moov 310 - European: Cobia_T400_64, North American: Cobia_T400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T400_64_AU
Moov 330 - European: Cobia_410_64, North American: Cobia_410_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_410_64_AU
Moov 360 - European: Cobia_420_64, North American: Cobia_420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_420_64_AU
Moov 370 - European: Cobia_T420_64, North American: Cobia_T420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T420_64_AU
Moov 500 - European: Cobia_500_64, North American: Cobia_500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_500_64_AU
Moov 500 R2 - European: Cobia500R2, North American: Cobia500R2_NA, Australian: Cobia500R2_AU
Moov 510 - European: Cobia_T500_64, North American: Cobia_T500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T500_64_AU
Moov 560 - European: Cobia_520_64, North American: Cobia_520_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_520_64_AU
Moov 580 - European: Cobia_T550_64, North American: Cobia_T550_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T550_64_AU


put the sd in mio and start it
1.program will start by it self

(this is from galins 1st post)
2.Select from combo-box (close to 'Store:') -> SMFlash
3.Press '...' button and select 'Storage Card' (where to save your SMFlash.img); If '...' doesn't work you can write (using any keyboard you have) the name of the SDCard folder of your PNA (ex: \Storage Card\, \SDMMC\ ...)
4.Press 'Read' button. A Hourglass will appear and it will take approx. 30 sec.
If the above application doesn't work, you should contact me to (on this thread) to fins a solution. Because every device is different I can’t give you a DiskRW custom made for your model.
then found the image that created from the application and uploade it.
then galin will make the image for your mio


Reply author: MasterSed
Replied on: 10 Jan 2010 19:07:54
Message:

srelioskoz,

Please tell me now how can I put an image as desktop wallpaper?

In settings>Display doesn't work.

Thank you.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 10 Jan 2010 19:42:25
Message:

mastersed
press start/settings/display
down left you see image
press on arow and you will see (none) and splash.
choose splash and ok up righit
but every time you make reset ,your mio start again with blue sceen
i will try to found a solution and i will tell you again


Reply author: MasterSed
Replied on: 10 Jan 2010 20:16:17
Message:

srelioskoz,

This method doesn't work. I tried multiple images but none is shown on desktop.

I'll wait for another solution.

Thank You.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 10 Jan 2010 23:11:45
Message:

ok mastersed
i made some chances in this program
http://www.4shared.com/file/193620942/c4139a3f/_2__mio_unlocker.html
download it unrar it and run setup.exe
connect mio on your computer first
press lock device and then unlock device
in this file i have 1 image with name (i)
copy and paste it in my computer/mio device
when you start mio it will start with this image
i have inside this file another file with another image
if you like copy and paste this image
if you like found another image.bmp rename it to i.bmp and paste it in mio device
but first save your sortcuts from my flash disc/program files/unlock/desktop. because if you make lock and unlock they will be erased
i worked to hard for this but finally i found the solution :)


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 02:18:26
Message:

Hi g_alin,
great work, you are doing here.
I was wondering if you could upload somewhere
dumpcefix tool, cmonex is not responding,
maybe she is skiing in Switzerland
I am working on SDHC support above 2GB on ce5.0,
mine has got up to 2GB ULTRA II support, I've got some
dll files from devices which support 16GB,
sdmemory, sdhc and sdbus.
Sorry for coming here an interrupting your work,
there was no other way.


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 02:43:04
Message:

for g_alin! or any one can help me!
hi im have tryed bkp one mio moov 500 r2 -north america but no sucess.
I try the software DiskRW, it run but no menu apeared, just a tab optins in letf down of screen. any other sugestions on bkp firmware in mio moov 500R2 NA thanks a lot!


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 04:20:01
Message:

Did you put the dll files with DiskRW folder,
you can also try to copy toolhep.dll to windows folder,
Try the simple MIO Unlock it used to have some very important
dll files, which had to be copied to windows CE folder in order
to run some applications, here is link:
http://www.freewebs.com/xtyler91/
dont install it, just extract to your PC and then copy the dll files
to SD card and then to windows CE folder, dont overwrite the existing ones
hope it will help.


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 04:52:05
Message:

HI jlagocki, thanks for help but not working yet, I try as you said but no work so I test the software on an hp ipaq and it works, but in my mio no menu is visible yet... very sad to me...


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 07:25:15
Message:

hi lazzarusbr,
I don't know how to help you, I can only guess here, maybe your Moov has got Win CE6.0.
DiskRW.exe needs this two DLLs to run: commctrl.dll & AYGSHELL.dll
Yo could try to install latest Net Framework for Win CE and then try again,
I don't have a link to it, but you could try Microsoft.
Maybe someone else knows something.


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 07:55:31
Message:

thanks again jlagocki.
I search and foun my win ce is 5.00and until now no clue about make it run, and I ask the diskRW is the only way to bkp the mio firmware?
the complete firmware for restore in case of format or something in blue recover menus... I do this in my mio moov 300...


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 08:26:37
Message:

I will try miopocket 3,0, instead my custom mio easy umlock...maybe it fix things...
I will post results. thanks!


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 08:59:03
Message:

GREAT, PROBLEM SOLVED!
miopocket do the job! my conclusion is:my previous instalation was too light and was missing some crucial dlls for this Disk RD program.
so I want to share my firmware of mio moov 500 R2, so I just bkp SMFGlash and save it as name.bin, and change it to winimage.bin?
thanks for any help on this!


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 15:57:18
Message:

Hi lazzarusbr,
this is not that easy, you just got yourself a disk image nothing else, to create bin file there is a more work inwolved then that, you have to upload it somewhere and ask someone to recreate the firmware for you, you can do it but you need tools.


Reply author: MasterSed
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 16:23:14
Message:

srelioskoz,

Thank You very much for the unlock program.
The picture is loading ok.
Mio is working very fine.


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 16:28:28
Message:

g_alin
can You make an image file from this?
http://rapidshare.com/files/333694278/SMFlash_0_26214400.img.html


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 16:47:23
Message:

daliokas what about your mio
is ok now?


Reply author: nanotek
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 16:54:04
Message:

@g_alin
also from this h610 dump (I posted it also few pages back) please if you can, thanks in advance
http://www.4shared.com/file/193517249/3779c91/h_610_dump_bkondisk.html


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 17:26:37
Message:

hi again jlagocki, I cant be lazy bastard here (read leecher) and if you can tell me about tool involved in img to bin conversion for firmware I want to learn this, or tell me the tools involved in process, (or this is a classified material?) thanks a lot!


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 17:52:29
Message:

when i use FW of 360 the miomap2008 loads fine, but without sound.
when i use FW of 330 from G_alin miomap2008 does not loads..


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 18:51:23
Message:

dwnldr,
Now I understand ... full windows CE is a really high target ... adding some component (or changing some components) ... Yes. that can be done. I can try to add one unlock into firmware (I never tried for MOOV ... but we can give it a try). Files "device.xml,paths.xml,appstartupsec.sec,appstartupsec.ini" are not related to wince 5.0. Are used by some custom software (written by Mitac) to start some application during start-up. I don't think we can change the location from FLASH to WINDOWS.
regarding http://rapidshare.com/files/331339941/mio_unlocker.rar.html I don't even checked that unlock (until now) ... because I don't have a MOOV device. We have to talk to srelioskoz, first and see what does that unlock. For sure some settings can be saved ... but not all of them. For example: date/time settings - will be lost.

srelioskoz,
Thank you. I will add all that information to the first page (in a day or two).
Can you tell me Setup.exe from your unlock is a "custom made" self installer? Can you make a list with the tasks done by it? dwnldr (and probably other users) are interested, if we can "insert" the unlock into firmware and build a custom firmware that has the desktop included.

nanotek,
I will take a look ... If you don't get an answer in 3-4 days please remind me. Can you tell me the Region / Firmware number .... please

lazzarusbr,
(based on my knowledge) firmwares there are not available from Mio ... so the only option left is to extract the firmware from a SMFlash.img (copied from a similar device - cobia 400 na 64 mio moov 300 north america). If you find someone kind enough to download extract his SMFlash.img ... I can try to extract the firmware upgrade.

jlagocki,
Bad news ... I don't have it. You can try to use those http://www.4shared.com/file/194308764/3fc6a430/windows.html files. Are for one friend to add SDHC support to Mio C250+. Additionally you upload the image, somewhere, and I will try to extract those files.
PS. I don't use dumpCEfix15 for ROM extractions ...

daliokas,
Can you tell me the GPS Model / Region / Firmware number .... please.

If I missed to answer (to someone) please ask again ... there was a lot of activity lately.


Reply author: nanotek
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 22:05:47
Message:

quote:

nanotek,
I will take a look ... If you don't get an answer in 3-4 days please remind me. Can you tell me the Region / Firmware number .... please




sure thing
H610-NA - V38.2.0153.1010 - bought it from USA so is nord american version, same version I got in the one I bought in Canada that is now faulty

http://www.4shared.com/file/193517249/3779c91/h_610_dump_bkondisk.html

PS How hard is it to create that file and how much time does it take? Is there any way you can post a tutorial so maybe other users can provide working roms?
For example I did not found any H610 firmware around the WWW


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 22:10:50
Message:

nanotek,
done. check the first page. (I will change ENG to NA). let me know if it works.


Reply author: nanotek
Replied on: 11 Jan 2010 22:35:00
Message:

done
it is working
you are a genius
THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH

it is H610 not c610
oricum multumesc pentru tot mai ales pentru promptitudine. aparatul asta care nu mergea are ramul defect cred pentru ca se blocheaza, asa am si ajuns sa pun pe el alte romuri sa vad daca este problema hardware

PS only problem is that my poor h610 even if it is a new unit has some hardware problems so when i start a application that requires a little more ram it frezzes. this is why I messed with it from the begining.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 00:34:22
Message:

nanotek,
welcome (cu placere).


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 01:05:09
Message:

Hi g_alin thanks for all!
and to contribute and expand your mio firmwares databank here is mine:
mio moov 500 R2 NA
http://www.4shared.com/file/194591040/a993dac8/mio_moov_500_-_Cobia_500R2_NA.html
and thanks if you can convert it to a winceimage to use in sdcard to repair mios! thanks so much! if you can get a moov 300na image I will apreciated so much too!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 01:30:44
Message:

lazzarusbr,
http://www.4shared.com/file/194616656/765533d8/MOOV500R2-NA_ROM_V195400012.html
Let me know if it works.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 09:30:05
Message:

g_alin
i made one more image from my mio moov 560 (T550R2.V1.00.0003)
http://rapidshare.com/files/319081585/SMFlash_0_35651584.img.html

this mio unlocker can unlock all mio applications and it is very light program
http://www.4shared.com/file/193620942/c4139a3f/_2__mio_unlocker.html
i have download it from internet and i made some chances because when you start mio you have blue screen. now i made it to have any image.bmp you wand on start screen.you can use it in your mio it is very usefull and easy to make setup.
and if you wand you can lock your mio again from this program.
you can see win ce ,windows ce explorer,you can create a sortcut on your start screen


Reply author: genrymail
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 12:59:15
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin
C220_RUS (R05.3.0171.0911)


Hi. I have a problem. In my mio c220 rev.230 i upgrade WinCE with dnw-tools and winceimg.bin. But image was for c220 navigator and now my device not boot without SD-card. When i insert SD in to device it run blue screen. And it`s all. NAvigator not boot winCE. Can you help me? before upgrade i have this FW R00.2.9952.0229.64Mb


Reply author: dwnldr
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 13:25:57
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

dwnldr,
Now I understand ... full windows CE is a really high target ... adding some component (or changing some components) ... Yes. that can be done. I can try to add one unlock into firmware (I never tried for MOOV ... but we can give it a try). Files "device.xml,paths.xml,appstartupsec.sec,appstartupsec.ini" are not related to wince 5.0. Are used by some custom software (written by Mitac) to start some application during start-up. I don't think we can change the location from FLASH to WINDOWS.
regarding http://rapidshare.com/files/331339941/mio_unlocker.rar.html I don't even checked that unlock (until now) ... because I don't have a MOOV device. We have to talk to srelioskoz, first and see what does that unlock. For sure some settings can be saved ... but not all of them. For example: date/time settings - will be lost.



im happy,you understand me..Its a bit hard,write for me all in english..
About WinCE:if i think about normally Windows for PC,the ,,run,, file/command for windows is ,,win.exe or win32.exe,,...If you are in DOS-Prompt,you type -win , and windows starts..The Moov,which have i ,,wrecked and then repaired :) ,, was not mine,so at the moment,i cannot test anything..
I think about something like this :
We BUY a full WinCE and create a image file (like the original firmwares) We need to edit this image,add the files device.xml,paths.xml,appstartupsec.sec,appstartupsec.ini (edit paths to run MFD/Windows/WinCE.exe)
Create a command to copy these files to MFD and save this settings into WinCE image,add the files from which Mio means,that are original FW.Then we try to install it..I know,that is very easy to write and hard to make,but i think,that maybe this method can be a succesfully solution,how to make from PNA a PDA with GPS,touch screen,for very cheap price.What do you think about it?
Im very sad,that i doesnt have at the moment some Moov in my hand,that we can try something..I want to know,if it goes..PNA is PDA too,with another firmware and uboot...I think,that ,,calibers,, like you can made something like that

Robert


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 14:58:33
Message:

genrymail,
find one device (same model/region) and download the SMFlash.img (using DISKRW).
As an alternative you can try firmwares from C250 (or C250+) ... it may work.


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 15:08:09
Message:

Thanks g_alin,
didn't work for me, I also had relocated set from ablbd and didn't work,
must be some other problem, I am losing 2GB when I copy this files to windows
but when I delete them 2GB works again.


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 15:18:21
Message:

g_alin
mio Moov 330 - European: Cobia_410_64


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 16:09:55
Message:

g_alin I can confirm the version you fdid of my moov 500R2 NA is WORKING 100%, I entered in recover mode im my moov 500, and option 0 upgrade wince by sd card and option 1 upgrade and format! (scarry in tyis time!)
but it worked flawless, recovered 100% , this image is aproved for moov 500R2 NA!!! you can upgrade your databases , just waiting for any good soul can upload a mio moov 300 NA top recover my another moov! and can you talk more about the process involved in conversion of .img to .bin??? thanks a lot!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 17:47:02
Message:

ok mastersed
i made some new images for mio moov
this is the link for download the unlocker(mastersed YOU have the unlocker)
http://www.4shared.com/file/193620942/c4139a3f/_2__mio_unlocker.html
connect your mio on pc ,run setup.exe then press unlock
close mio and unconnect it from pc
this is the link for download the images
http://www.4shared.com/file/195197029/9e98d394/images_for_mio.html
copy and paste the image that you like in : my computer/mio device
rename the image as i.bmp
then any time you sturt up your mio ,it will start with this image on screen


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 19:48:09
Message:

dwnldr,
You have some misunderstanding regarding wince ... wince is different from windows PC - wince has in nk.exe only the components included in the build (firmware) -> this is why Windows Vista had 2 Gig and Wince has 10 Meg. You can't buy a wince CD to install full wince. The application used to build wince images is Platform Builder. Can be downloaded from Microsoft (90 day trial version - full functional). The problem is that you need the sources from Mitac to build the nk.exe. nk.exe is hardware dependent (inside there is the memory type; memory size; ... ). We can not build another nk.exe because we don't have the sources (and Mitac is not going to give us the sources ... you can ask for sources ... www.mitac.com). If you get the sources (SMDK2443 based platform); let me know and I will build a custom image with the components that you want to be included.

daliokas,
MOOV330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0028) - http://www.4shared.com/file/195309548/19093226/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000028.html

lazzarusbr,
good to know ... lets wait for someone to post a moov 300 NA SMFlash.img. Yes we can talk about. What do you want to know?

jlagocki,
sorry to hear that ... sdbus.dll is responsible. try to overwrite only the other two dlls.

Unfortunately in the morning all servers are busy and I can't download your uploads (I don't have Premium account) ... later on I will update ...


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 19:55:37
Message:

Thanks a lot g_alin.
I think is a good start, tell about the software used in conversion, (or softwares), and I sugest a little tutorial about if it was possible!(maybe a new topic!)
From get SMFlash.img(these already was explicated) and change it into winceimg.bin, and how to get corret CRC of this bin, to create winceimg.cks. so many thanks!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 20:25:57
Message:

lazzarusbr,
(you need to have some wince knowledge ... lets assume that you have those knowledge).
Image format is NB0; and has five parts:
1. settings
2. header
3. XIPKERNEL
4. CHAIN
5. NK
- settings is the most 'unpredictable' (from all the parts). Until now all images extracted (we are talking only about MOOV series) had 1M (1024k) size of settings.
- header can be found using string search "Cobia" ... also has something with ".NB0" inside.
- XIPKERNEL is found using "ECEC" string search. The length must be checked using dumprom.exe.
- CHAIN can be found searching "XIPKERNEL" and starts from 02 (hex) - because are two ROMs - 1320 bytes (only valid for two ROMs)
- XIP - same like XIPKERNEL
winceimg.cks is a plain text (don't edit it with notepad) with size + CRC. CRC is a CRC32 bit (add all byte from FIRST to LAST using a 32bit variable). The easiest way to calculate that is WinHex (I have 15.0 SR-2) use Tools / Compute Hash / Checksum (32bit).

More wince information you can find on http://hpcmonex.net/. Google its a endless source of information. If you have (some specific question) I can try to answer you (but please ... only specific question).

LE:
srelioskoz,
Unfortunately I need to know what setup.exe does exactly (what software does start ... and what changes are done to OS) I assume that setup exe is executing "mortscript.exe autorun.mscr" and "tre.exe autorun.reg" but I need some confirmations. Where did you found this file? Can you tell me anything about PNADesktop.exe. Where did you found it? can you make a youtube movie with your unlock? (I don't have MOOV so I don't even know how it looks the Desktop after unlock ...)


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 12 Jan 2010 22:20:44
Message:

galin ok i will make a video

yes i thing that setup exe is executing "mortscript.exe autorun.mscr" and "tre.exe autorun.reg as you say.
i have found this program before 1 year and for this reason i dont rememper what was the link. i thing that it was a greek forum

for more information you will see the videos that i upload
if you have any questions ask me and if i know i will answer to you
iam electronic engineer but iam not a programmer
yesterday i made to make a litle chance in this program and it works good :)
i made it to have a image on start screen.
1st video moov 360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8R0Gu0bJPo

2nd video of my moov 560
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1BOq011UBc

i thing that this program is that you want to found


ok g-alin i thing this is the link
i thing that this is program from navman
http://navmanunlocked.wikispaces.com/Unlock

p.s galin when you find free time
i made one more image from my other mio moov 560 (T550R2.V1.00.0003)
http://rapidshare.com/files/319081585/SMFlash_0_35651584.img.html

make winceimg.cks and bin for first page of your topic


Reply author: Viktoras
Replied on: 13 Jan 2010 14:24:31
Message:

What about c620? My device has broken!The screen does not work and...more problems with OS.
Who has the firmware to c620?
Help, please!


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 13 Jan 2010 15:31:22
Message:

G_alin,
i'm getting message then writing CE image "unknown image type"
something wrong with the image,check the image if you can, thank You.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Jan 2010 19:47:22
Message:

srelioskoz,
regarding MOOV560, we have to talk offline ... this one is different from previous GPS (has SMDK2450 platform). please send me a PM to discuss offline.

daliokas,
sorry for the inconvenience (was my mistake ...). Please download again the firmware (I replaced the file with the fixed firmware). Let me know if you have any problems with the new firmware.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 13 Jan 2010 21:54:44
Message:

g_alin i dont know why but i can not send mail.i dont know why
if you wand send me mail


did you shaw the videos?
what is your opinion for this unlocker?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Jan 2010 22:04:22
Message:

srelioskoz,
I've sent you and email; check your email (if is not in Inbox check the SPAM folder).
I've seen the video. I will check later (if it works on Mio C series) ... probably NOT because is only for "NAVMAN type".
Anyway I was talking about read Desktop (from wince 5.0) ... this is a 'replacement' desktop ... an application the is trying to do the same functions (or some of the functions ... ).


Reply author: MasterSed
Replied on: 14 Jan 2010 11:21:16
Message:

srelioskoz,

Thank you for the images.
Mio is working perfectly.


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 14 Jan 2010 16:43:00
Message:

G_alin


Thank You,now my mio is working...
thanks to all who helped me
Come to Lithuania and i will buy you a beer


Reply author: nanotek
Replied on: 15 Jan 2010 02:16:26
Message:

@Alin
c520 procedure tested on c320 and everything runed smmoth

question:
I have a native missalignement of the screen of C320,, after hard reset I need to calibrate the screen again. I used the rom image from your first page but still same problem.
Is there any way to make a custom rom in wich this alignment would be included?
Here is my reg file
---------
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH]
"CalibrationData"="980,555 364,800 360,312 1600,312 1600,800 "
---------

PS Intrebarea este mai mult teoretica, nu as vrea sa pierzi timpul muncind la asa ceva. merci pentru raspuns.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Jan 2010 03:05:39
Message:

nanotek,
Yes. Can be done ... The steps should be:
1. Split ROM
2. convert default.fdf to default.reg
3. change the registry
4. convert ...reg to ....fdf
5. replace old_defaul.fdf with new_defaul.fdf
6. OPTIONAL: need to adjust the ROM length
7. pack ROM to winceimg.bin + .cks

For an experimented ROM cooker ... i don't know ... maybe 10 min. ... 20 min.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 16 Jan 2010 17:17:09
Message:

g-alin i create one image from a mio moov s505
but i thing it is very big image

http://www.4shared.com/file/198576832/e3889037/SMFlash_0_169869312.html
SEEKER.R16.00.0773.STF128M

and one question
i made a topic for how to unlock this application
but they erased it and tell me:Please repost in the existing topic
where i must post the new topic?
thank you


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Jan 2010 21:12:49
Message:

srelioskoz,
I will check the SMFlash Monday.
Regarding new topic: You should ask the Moderator. I am a normal user (like you).


Reply author: SuperC
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 12:54:45
Message:

Hello,

Please help me in order to resolve the following problem:
A friend of mine as me to update his MIO MOOV 500 with iGO8 software. In order to start the iGO8 application from the SD card I modified the paths.xml file. After that the device was blocked and I can't connect them on usb port in order to rewrite paths.xml with the original file.

After I readed almost all posts regarding this issue, I started the procedure described by g_alin "How to repair your mio if no connection with pc".

I did my best in order to make each step as in description, but the blue upgrade screen didn't appear. Now I know that it was impposible to appear because I forgot to insert SD card :(

After few attempts I "succeded" to connect the device to usb post and My Flash contains only 2 files called "device.xxx" (I forgot the exact extension).

The problems are the following:
1. After few seconds the device turned off and I can't upgrade the firmware. (black screen)
2. It works only connected to the usb cable (only with the power delivered by on the usb port). If i disconnected the usb cable, the device suddenly stops.

Can you help me in order to repair this device. Otherwise I must buy a new Mio Moov 500 for my friend.

Thank you in advance,
Cristi


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 13:19:15
Message:

cristi

firtst of all recharge your battery
then can you tell.what happens if you start your mio with no usb?
what screen you have?
then if you connect your usb?


Reply author: SuperC
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 15:19:14
Message:

Thank you srelioskoz for your fast reply.

Although the battery was pretty good (work on time about 1.5 hours) now I can't charge it. I tried to let the Mio few hours connected on USB in order to charge the battery, but when I disconnected the USB cable the device didn't turn on. Also when I connected the USB cable, the LED automaticaly turn green.
I can't start it without USB.

When I turn it on, on the display appear the mio logo screen and after that, on the screen appear the USB connection logo (2 computers and the orange connection) - the image which is shown when you connected on usb.

I tried also to connect it to an phone charge with usb plug, and even in this situation the usb connect logo appear.

The problem is that the device it suddenly turn off and the battery is not charging.



Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 15:35:00
Message:

THE PROBLEM is on your battery or on connection of your battery . the battery not charge and for this reason you see the green light
1look the battery connection
2 if you can coonect on your pc open my computer and find mio device then make format on mio device
3 if all is ok take the cd of mio open mio more desktop and make again setup of mio map program and the map

but first find why your bateery not charge
and tell me what happens


Reply author: SuperC
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 15:42:01
Message:

I just opened the MIO MOOV 500 case an I discovered that the battery plug was not in it's position. I connected the plug, and after that the device starting to charge.


Reply author: SuperC
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 15:42:37
Message:

I just opened the MIO MOOV 500 case an I discovered that the battery plug was not in it's position. I connected the plug, and after that the device starting to charge.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 16:41:05
Message:

ok now tell me what happens when you start your mio and when you connect usb


Reply author: SuperC
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 20:40:29
Message:

Now it works. The firmware updrade didn't work but, for the moment, I don't want to upgrade it anymore.

I have other problem. Each time I start the device and a SD card is already insert, the devices started in the blue upgrade screen.

I mentioned that I format the card and it contains only iGO8 software. I also delet4e cobia folder which was copied in My Flash\Program\unlock....


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 20:59:07
Message:

ok cristi
this is to stop the blue upgrade screen
http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html

download this file and put it in your sd card (this is for mio moov 360 if you have another mio moov you must rename the folder)
Moov 150 - European: Cobia_300L_32, North American: Cobia_300L_32_NA, Australian: Cobia_300L_32_AU
Moov 200 - European: Cobia_300_32, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_32_AU
Moov 200u - European: Cobia_300_64, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_64_AU
Moov 210 - European: Cobia_T300_32, North American: Cobia_T300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T300_32_AU
Moov 300 - European: Cobia_400_64, North American: Cobia_400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_400_64_AU
Moov 310 - European: Cobia_T400_64, North American: Cobia_T400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T400_64_AU
Moov 330 - European: Cobia_410_64, North American: Cobia_410_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_410_64_AU
Moov 360 - European: Cobia_420_64, North American: Cobia_420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_420_64_AU
Moov 370 - European: Cobia_T420_64, North American: Cobia_T420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T420_64_AU
Moov 500 - European: Cobia_500_64, North American: Cobia_500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_500_64_AU
Moov 500 R2 - European: Cobia500R2, North American: Cobia500R2_NA, Australian: Cobia500R2_AU
Moov 510 - European: Cobia_T500_64, North American: Cobia_T500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T500_64_AU
Moov 560 - European: Cobia_520_64, North American: Cobia_520_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_520_64_AU
Moov 580 - European: Cobia_T550_64, North American: Cobia_T550_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T550_64_AU



then put the power button to reset position and put the power button to on position
when you see the black screen with firmware of your mio ,push inside the sd card
your mio will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE ... choose SUPERMODE and ok to all it ask you


i didn say to format the sd crad.
i say this: connect your mio to pc
go to my computer/mio device and make format
then take the cd and with mio more desktop put again the mio map program and the map


Reply author: SuperC
Replied on: 17 Jan 2010 21:14:22
Message:

Thank you very much. It works and I save a lot of money.

Thank you.


Reply author: Viktoras
Replied on: 19 Jan 2010 11:12:33
Message:

What about c620? My device has broken!The screen does not work and...more problems with OS.
Who has the firmware to c620?
Help, please!


Reply author: juss555
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 00:57:44
Message:

my mio spirit v505 crash enyone have a sd boot or something???


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 01:18:29
Message:

hello g_alin
I try for to 2 days to fix a Mio Moov 500 and can't manage it. I formatted flash and now find i can't find the ROM for the Moov 500. can you help me out with a ROM from Moov 500? the 360 and 330 do't work. gives me the error "invalid image file" when i try to update flash.


Reply author: genrymail
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 12:32:31
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

genrymail,
find one device (same model/region) and download the SMFlash.img (using DISKRW).
As an alternative you can try firmwares from C250 (or C250+) ... it may work.


I`m found another one. And dump with DiskRW DSK1.img and SMFlash.img.
Wich one you need?
It`s my smflash
http://files.ids-scheer.ru/FileLib/ildonsko/SMFlash_R00_2_9952_0229_64mb.rar


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 14:46:09
Message:

hi khaos2002 if your mio moov 500 was cobia500R2 NA I have the firmware
let me know... if yes I will post it to you...


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 15:34:33
Message:

hi lazzarusbr
i have your firmware but when i try to load it to the gps it says "unknown image file".
the problem with my gps is that it doesn't power up. i can only power it up with an sd card in it and opens directly the blue upgrade screen.
what do i have to do to make it work?


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 16:00:50
Message:

HI khaos2002 I think your moov 500 is not North America or R2 version as mine, the only way as recover is waiting a firmware version like your own, I have an moov 300 NA as same problem. but you can find a clue of your correct firmware when you turn on your gps with sd card inside slot in top os screen you will can read something like cobia xxx xxx xxx please read it and post here to try help you...


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 17:39:02
Message:

thank you lazzarusbr
this is the firmware: cobiaT550R2_R03_1212 Ram 64 MLC 512M
i've searched all the www for this firmware and nothing


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 18:03:31
Message:

It seems to be am mio moov 580, not 500 as far as know look:
Moov 580 - European: Cobia_T550_64, North American: Cobia_T550_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T550_64_AU, so you need to continue search for another firmware as mio moov 500 is not good for you good luck! im in search for mio moov 300 NA firmware if you find one please make me know!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 18:05:04
Message:

khaos
the only way to work your mio is the corect firmware
if noone have the firmware
try to found a friend with the same mio
and take the image from his application
then upload it and g_alin will help you
just read the first page to see how to take image from mio


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 18:07:08
Message:

on the back of the mio it is written: model no: n210. if you google n210 you will see that n210 is moov 500. i have a smflash from a mio 560 but i don't know how to make it winceimg.bin. can you help me with this one if you know?
thank you
p.s. i have a mio moov 300 firmware, but is not for NA. did you try a moov 300 firmware?


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 18:18:38
Message:

the info on your gps tells another story, as it shows cobia_T550_64 it is an mio moov 580 no doubt on this, and about conversion from .img to .bin , im not know the drill but one can help you on this is the user g_alin, this man knows a lot of these process and if you upload this on a free file storage and ask for help to g_alin, I think he can made this conversion. God speed!


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 18:21:09
Message:

srelioskoz
i have a mio moov 560 SMFlash and i want to try it with this one. because i installed on a mio moov 360 a 330 firmware and it worked (except the sound). i hope the 560 will work on 500 too.
here is the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?cmjkgv1mkuz


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 19:07:34
Message:

khaos just wait for g-alins message he can make your image for your mio and he will tell you what to do


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 21:39:14
Message:

srelioskoz,
I have some good news (the image is valid) and some bad news (the settings region can be up to 134M ...).
This GPS is different from others ... If I remember right SEEKER is also my GPS Magellan RoadMate 1340 (SEEKER300M). If you can find an update (from Mio) to check how big has to be the settings region I can try to make the image ... otherwise we have to try different settings length for setting region (up to 133 possible combination: from 1M -> 134M) ... is going to be .... hard to test. Lets see if we can find a firmware upgrade from Mio first ... maybe we'll figure out from that image the settings length.

Viktoras,
Sorry. I don't have a C620 firmware.

khaos2002,
I don't Moov 500 (I have only Moov500R2) ... we have also Moov560 SMFlash but unfortunately we don't know the upgrade format ... but the good news is that there are only about 6 possible options ... so if you want to give it a try let me know.
http://www.mediafire.com/?cmjkgv1mkuz this smflash is different from srelioskoz's one? or is the same!?

genrymail,
As I can see you have a 480x272 screen and is based on SMDK2343 platform ... probably you should try the firmwares from C320/C520 series ... anyway you can try also your original fw: http://www.4shared.com/file/202515047/cdf78129/fw_C_temp.html .Please tell me the Model number and Region (when I'll posted on first page).


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 22:11:41
Message:

thanks for your reply g_alin
that smflash is same as srelioskoz
you said you have the Moov500R2 firmware? the europe one? yes, i want to give it a try.


Reply author: sweetnice
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 23:12:26
Message:

Hi guys!
First I want to thank you for the great job they do.
I need desperate a ROM for a mio moov 370 please!
Thanks in advance


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 23:40:52
Message:

khaos2002,
Is NA not EU.
http://www.4shared.com/file/194616656/765533d8/MOOV500R2-NA_ROM_V195400012.html

sweetnice,
You should try to find one device and download the SMFlash ...


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 20 Jan 2010 23:47:18
Message:

g_alin,
i already tried this one and no luck.
the problem is that my device only turns on when i have a card in it, and it only starts in the blue upgrade screen. without card nothing happens, it's dead. do i have to rewrite the bootloader too?


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 00:43:03
Message:

hi khaos2002 when you reflash the CORRECT firmware of your mio it will atomatcally remake the boot sector of your gps too, and you will get the orange mio screen again and will can conect the unit to usb and get full acess to flash MioDevice.


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 00:44:43
Message:

ok. thank you lazzarusbr. i think i have to wait for the correct flash to appear.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 01:28:49
Message:

khaos2002,
so if you want to give it a try (with Moov 560) let me know an I will make the firmware (actually I will make several firmwares for you to try ...).


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 01:31:03
Message:

yes, i want to try if you can make those firmwares for me.
thank you


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 01:39:03
Message:

try this one first: http://www.4shared.com/file/202715943/8883dfb4/temp_M560_5M.html


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 01:42:53
Message:

not good. it says: "unknown image file"


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 01:43:53
Message:

for g_alin!
Hi , after your msg to me about conversion and knoledge in wince, Im completly lost, and I dont know about win ce, I try to figureout but, it apears to me a long long road to learn , about nbo roms , headers and others I have no idead about all he process and I even clue the first step in learning this .img to bin conversion, and as I can see you can convert it in a time of 20 minutes or less WOW, you have been doing this for a long time and have a lot of pratice isn΄t? thanks for your explanationa but I was thinking it was an more software automatic process not serch and find certain things (i have no idea how to start or what looking) to compile the final bin, but thanks for your pacience and if you can point a dumb guy in win ce for the first steps I will be glad! I love learn new things!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 02:02:27
Message:

second: http://www.4shared.com/file/202725268/6692f18f/temp_M560_4M.html


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 02:12:51
Message:

this one neither. do you have a yahoo id messenger where we can talk easily?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 04:35:53
Message:

sorry ... I had to go. we have only two to go:
http://www.4shared.com/file/202802016/dbae472d/temp_M560_3M.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/202802190/fbd60227/temp_M560_2M.html


Reply author: genrymail
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 09:53:06
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin
genrymail,
Please tell me the Model number and Region (when I'll posted on first page).


My device is c220 rev.230
R00.2.9952.0229.64Mb


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 10:41:27
Message:

temp_m560_3m is not good and the other link is dead. can you upload it again? thank you


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 19:33:56
Message:

try this one:
http://www.4shared.com/file/203300440/2e0a8d7d/temp_M560_2M.html


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 20:45:23
Message:

nope. it's not working. still waiting for the correct firmware. thank you g_alin


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 20:55:02
Message:

http://www.4shared.com/file/203358662/fce2fd22/temp_M560_6M.html


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:01:08
Message:

khaos every time you try a new firmware please put power button to reset and after to on position
otherwise mio not make upgrade
it start but it say to you that firmware it not work

g-alin thank you for your help for seeker
many people give me their mios for unlock
when i will found another firmware image i will sent it to you


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:04:59
Message:

yes srelioskoz, that's the way i do


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:11:17
Message:

6m is not good either.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:18:56
Message:

Bad news is that: we running out of options ...
http://www.4shared.com/file/203379914/93e0bde8/temp_M560_0M.html


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:24:27
Message:

this one worked. i installed the firmware, but when i open the device it says "no region data set"


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:30:45
Message:

khaos2002,
now (that we know the format) try to find one identical device and download the smflash.img. I can't help you with the "no region data set" ... probably is looking for some settings ... that are missing.


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:38:42
Message:

the window of the error it is named: "CDevice::mio_getRegion..." and the error is "no region data set".
i found on the www a .rar archive of a mio moov 500 flash, but it's not an image. it contains the files and folders of the mio moov 500 flash.
can that help you with something?
about the error, i opened the "device.xml" from this archive and i can see there some lines about the region
maybe you should check it out because you know better than me.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:42:29
Message:

wait a minute: this error is before you did Recovery from original CD or after?
You know that you have to use your original CD to load the Navigation software + maps ... don't you!?


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:45:36
Message:

this error is before i did the recovery from original cd.
when i power up the device it starts that black screen with the firmware version. after this screen appears this error. and i cannot connect it via usb.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:48:37
Message:

in that case the firmware is not the right one ... did you tried to do a reset with the GPS connected to PC? if the USB connection doesn't work ... for sure is not the right firmware ...


Reply author: khaos2002
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:53:00
Message:

yes, i tried, not working.
alin, do you have a yahoo messenger id so we can speak easily?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jan 2010 21:56:18
Message:

khaos2002, I sent you a PM.


Reply author: genrymail
Replied on: 22 Jan 2010 06:59:18
Message:

g_alin,


My device is c220 rev.230
R00.2.9952.0229.64Mb


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 22 Jan 2010 21:29:40
Message:

yes genrymail ... I already added the firmware to first page ... thank you.


Reply author: Alexandru Popescu
Replied on: 23 Jan 2010 12:29:07
Message:

Salut Alin,

dupa ce am incercat sa fac un firmware update la un Mio C220, aparatul nu mai porneste. Singura treaba care se mai intimpla este ca led-ul clipeste cit timp este conectat la USB (incarca) dar pc-ul nu-l recunoaste. Exista posibilitatea de "scurt-cicuita" ceva fire sau/si apasare concomitenta buton power pentru a-l porni intr-un safe mode, or something? cumva sa reusesc sa restabilesc conexiunea cu pc-ul?

Multumesc frumos,
Alex


Reply author: oznuggets
Replied on: 01 Feb 2010 09:19:36
Message:

Hi g_alin,

I have a c520 mio but I don't have the restore CD. It is working fine with no problems but I would like to create a backup of the firmware in case I have any problems later. I have the Australian firmware R41.3.9965.1031 (22Mb) which I have read using diskRW. Can you give me any hints on how I can create the .bin file to restore the firmware?

Regards,
Peter


Reply author: kang2k
Replied on: 02 Feb 2010 11:48:37
Message:

Please Help me!
I change firmware on Mio c520 on version C520_EEU_RUS (R45.3.9966.1010)
And now if i connect my mio to PC, i have in manager device - usb storage device with (vid_045E&PID_FFFF\GENERIC_MANUFCTURER_(PROTOTYPE--REMEMBER_TO_CHANGE_IDVENDOR, how change this ?

I am sorry for my English.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 02 Feb 2010 20:08:29
Message:

oznuggets,
Is more convenient to upload somewhere the SMFlash (preferably not on Rapidshare) and I will convert it to winceimg.bin.

kang2k,
Is only the name that other you? Is working like a USB Storage Device?
The registry that set this information are:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers\Mass_Storage_Class]
"bcdDevice"=dword:00000000
"Product"="Generic Mass Storage (PROTOTYPE--Remember to change idVendor)"
"idProduct"=dword:0000ffff
"Manufacturer"="Generic Manufacturer (PROTOTYPE--Remember to change idVendor)"
"idVendor"=dword:0000045e
"FriendlyName"="Mass Storage"
"DeviceName"="DSK1:"
"InterfaceProtocol"=dword:00000050
"InterfaceSubClass"=dword:00000006
"Dll"="usbmsfn.dll"

You can change it to ... what ever you want ...


Reply author: juss555
Replied on: 03 Feb 2010 01:57:53
Message:

mio moov spirit v505 firmware ROM ???


Reply author: oznuggets
Replied on: 03 Feb 2010 02:50:34
Message:

Hi g_alin: Thank you for helping me. Here are the links for SMflash files, hope they work ok.

http://www.4shared.com/file/214028850/ee67269/SMFlash_0_23068672.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/214028872/d2de71c7/SMFlash_0_23068672img_read.html

Regards,
Peter


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 03 Feb 2010 18:34:25
Message:

oznuggets,

http://www.4shared.com/file/214445692/a0781e28/C520_AUS_ROM_R41399651031.html

juss555,
We don't have firmware for V505 :(


Reply author: oznuggets
Replied on: 04 Feb 2010 00:57:16
Message:

g_alin: Thank you for doing that, my apologies for not compressing the upload.

Regards,
Peter


Reply author: igolas
Replied on: 06 Feb 2010 20:59:45
Message:

Hi g_alin: Thank you for helping me. Here are the links for SMflash files, hope they work ok.
http://www.4shared.com/file/21561019...9/n177_rw.html,
Regards,
igolas


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 08 Feb 2010 19:37:03
Message:

igolas,
The link is not working ... :(


Reply author: igolas
Replied on: 08 Feb 2010 20:53:10
Message:

g_alin, sorry. Here are the new links for SMflash files n177
http://www.4shared.com/file/217787852/ded63197/SMFlash_0_26214400.html
Regards,
igolas


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Feb 2010 20:04:36
Message:

igolas,

Can you tell us the Region of your GPS? I understand that is a Moov 200 N177. Am I right?
Here is the firmware ... let us know if it works.
http://www.4shared.com/file/218533969/20d9a64f/winceimg.html


Reply author: lazzarusbr
Replied on: 09 Feb 2010 23:12:12
Message:

anyone have the firmware for mio moov 300?(COBIA 400 NA)
THANKS FOR ANY HELP!!!!


Reply author: igolas
Replied on: 10 Feb 2010 09:49:35
Message:

g_alin, yes, its Moov200. Firmware works fine. Thank you for helping me.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 12 Feb 2010 16:05:01
Message:

Here for the completion of the moov device's
a smflash image of the moov 370 N179 (EU navman Smartst-ce)

www.Gpspassion\upload2\Moov 370-N179 V1.00.0019 Cobia_T420_64 V 5.50.0212 .zip

copy paste link in new page

will try to get the moov 360 firmware on the moov 370 device
this 370 version have problems with not working tmc in igo8
try with this to get a workaround for this problem.

but only if i have a rom from the original 370 device.
the moov 370 can be used to try things and if it's broken it's not a problem.

enjoy kener


Reply author: MavKT
Replied on: 15 Feb 2010 08:40:44
Message:

g_alin,

I made a mistake not making a backup of the rom version. Do you possibly have a rom version for ZAF the original rom version on the C220 was R00.4.0174.0625

Thanks


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Feb 2010 20:05:21
Message:

kener,
http://www.4shared.com/file/223371963/c554911e/Moov370_N179__EU_ROM_V1000019.html
Let me know if it works ;)

MavKT,
I don't have this ROM version .... :( All I have is available on first page of this thread.


Reply author: Moov 200
Replied on: 16 Feb 2010 20:09:10
Message:

Hello g_alin,

I am sorry for my English. I am Hungarian.
I have a Mio Moov 200. Work it the igo8 with SD card.
But my sister used my mio moov 200 yesterday.
Today, when I put the power bottom to on position:
my Mio Moov 200 start with blue screen.

In the screen i can see:

Cobia300_R00_0320 RAM32 MLC 256M

0=WINCE Upgrade
1=GPS Tools
2=BT Tools
3=UBOOT Upgrade
4=Memory Tools
5=Other Tools
Choice: 0
_____

I think, that she did something bad. I was putting any SD card.
Let me try it based on your description to refresh the ROM?
(the current version: V1.00.0025)

Please Help Me! What should I do?
I wait for your answer! Thank you.

Regards,
Francis


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Feb 2010 20:22:43
Message:

Moov 200,
Is hard to understood haw did she done that (Assuming that she did not intentionally formatted the SMFlash) ... Maybe you ask here ... this way we found another way to activate the Blue Screen.
I think you have a device that has the wince deleted from ROM ...
To restore your wince you need to read the page 1 of this thread ... in the END there are the ROMs available to Moov series. If you want to have exactly your old version of wince; you need to find a device (the same Region/ROM_version) and download the SMFlash - using DiskRW (you can download it from the first page this DiskRW software) -, zip the SMFlash and upload it some where ... and I will extract the winceimg.bin from SMFlash.


Reply author: Moov 200
Replied on: 16 Feb 2010 20:58:00
Message:

g_alin
you would take me on MSN? please help
msn: qvick windowslive com


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Feb 2010 23:37:29
Message:

I tried to send you an PM an your connection info is not available.
I sent you an email to your MSN account and the message was bounced back ... qvick windowslive com (with at ... and ... dot)


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 16 Feb 2010 23:50:38
Message:

moov 200
first of all try to pull out the sd card and then put the power button to on possition
1)if mio start normally you dont need a firmware reload(go to first page of the topic and read about: user mode or super mode)
2)if mio not start or you see the blue upgrade screen then you need firmware reload


Reply author: Moov 200
Replied on: 17 Feb 2010 00:30:13
Message:

g_alin: you may send a private message now

srelioskoz: when pull out the sd card then start normally (original MioMap 2008). But the igo8 on the sd card. If I understand well, I need choose supermode and there will not be the blue screen? How I can select supermode, if the device does not accept the sd card?

I wait for your answer! Thank you.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Feb 2010 02:23:56
Message:

Moov 200,
In this case you have the wince on your device ... You can insert the SDCard after your wince has booted to MioMap2008 (i think). Anyway you can save your SMFlash to be sure that we have it ... if you have problems later on.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 17 Feb 2010 07:47:45
Message:

moov 200
download this unlocker

http://www.4shared.com/file/193620942/c4139a3f/_2__mio_unlocker.html
connect your mio on pc ,run setup.exe then press unlock
close mio and unconnect it from pc
then start again your mio and you will see the windows screen
then put inside sd card with the program and run the (program with.exe)
choose super mode .
then if you wand you can lock again your mio with the unlocker.

or rename the file from cobia_420_64 to Cobia_300_32 or Cobia_300_64
then put power button to on and when you will see the black screen with cobia_......
put inside the sd card and the program will start by it self
choose super mode and ok to all it ask you.
but if you can save your SMFlash


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 17 Feb 2010 20:23:14
Message:

g_alin

Thanks give it a tryout, but a small problem:
4shared : The file link that you requested is not valid.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Feb 2010 22:08:32
Message:

http://www.4shared.com/file/224078716/cedaddf6/Moov370_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
(tested with Firefox))


Reply author: Moov 200
Replied on: 17 Feb 2010 22:37:33
Message:

g_alin, srelioskoz: Thank you very much for helping me! It works fine! Great persons..


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 18 Feb 2010 18:48:37
Message:

g_alin Thanks for the rom


Reply author: RedFox200
Replied on: 19 Feb 2010 17:21:54
Message:

Hy,

g_alin I need some help please. I was trying to do a firmware update on my C220 and it didn't work. Then, using RomMasterCE 1.9.5 I tried to get my old winceimg back, but after reflashing it, I get's me the screen with the stylus setup, then the language, then the time setting and the it hangs. If I do a reset, I get the orange screen with the MIO picture and it hangs, every reset after that the same thing. So, my guess is that I'm not extracting the winceimg properly or something. I don't have the original cd anymore. Here is my SMFlash.img file.

http://rapidshare.com/files/352911688/SMFlash.img.html

Please advise. Thank you

Edit: After testing some rom's I did find one to work for me. The second custom rom from the first page. Strange but, I don't mind. I'll just need to see if it improving someting or not.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 19 Feb 2010 19:14:46
Message:

RedFox200,
Please compress your file and upload it somewhere else ... RS has not available slots for me :( .


Reply author: RedFox200
Replied on: 19 Feb 2010 19:19:59
Message:

here it is

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=98GRQ2N4

The thing was I didn't know for sure what region my device is becase I didn't find it anywhere.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 19 Feb 2010 22:51:25
Message:

RedFox200,
As a starting point here is the latest version of ROMMasterCE5.
http://www.4shared.com/file/162953239/3e41e2a2/RomMasterCE5_ver198.html
Question:
You upgraded the OS with (FORMAT) or without (FORMAT)?

C220_EEU_ROM_R02.3.0173.0608:
http://www.4shared.com/file/225563080/efefe1b9/C220_EEU_ROM_R02301730608.html

Sorry to here that the ROMMasterCE5, didn't work with your SMFlash ...
I extracted the winceimg manually and I compared the file with the one generated by ROMMasterCE5 -> there are identical ... try to see if (the file C220_EEU_ROM_R02.3.0173.0608.zip) is working - if after upgrade you have the same software functionality like the original software.
Regarding ROMMasterCE5 is strange that didn't work ... I would recommend you to extract the winceimg without changing anything into ROM (I did the same thing when I verified the one extracted manual and the one generated by ROMMasterCE5).
If the one uploaded by me (C220_EEU_ROM_R02.3.0173.0608) doesn't work ... we have a problem: The upgrade format is different for your GPS.
If this is working use this last version 1.9.8 to add/delete/edit your ROM.
To check if you have the same result like me follow those easy steps:
1.delete everything from resource Folder
2.copy SMFlash.img to resource Folder
3.Start the software
4.press the Extract ROMs to OUT - button
5.press Pack ROMs from OUT - button
6.press Write winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks - button
The resulted files (winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks) should be the same with the ones extracted by me (C220_EEU_ROM_R02.3.0173.0608). If is not ... I don't know ... we have to figure out where is the problem.

LE:
I checked the wince components used for build: are identical with C220_NA_8.3. (now I understand why is working with the custom firmware that is based on the ROM C220_NA_8.3) Only the software from Mio (FirstStartApp,MUTDevice ... ) are different. Good lack with the ROM change ;)


Reply author: RedFox200
Replied on: 19 Feb 2010 23:10:19
Message:

I had found the 1.9.8 version of RomMaster after I had posted here, tried to extract de winimg but the same result. Yes, it was fith format. It's not a big loss, the gps is working nice with the custom rom, but I need to know for later problems why the backup rom didn't work. I was a little bit puzzled to see that he cracks after the date and time setup, that's why I thought there is some sort of corruption. I'll try tommorow the rom you provided. Thanks very much for the help.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 19 Feb 2010 23:36:54
Message:

RedFox200,
Probably you formatted the \My Flash Disk\ and you need to load those files back (from original CD).
At start-up the wince is trying to start one application from \My Flash Disk\ ...
Anyway my opinion is (if you formatted the \My Flash Disk\) that you should see a gray image "Please use MAP DVD to recover the software" ... If you didn't Format the SMFlash after upgrade (with the original wimceimg) you should see back the old \My Flash Disk\ with the software for navigation.
There is also some exes (MireoStart.exe, MioAlert.exe) that are new "in town" and some have gone (MainSheel).
With the original firmware try to see if the file "MireoAutorun.exe" on SDCard is started automatically by the GPS (when you insert the SDCard)!?


Reply author: RedFox200
Replied on: 19 Feb 2010 23:46:04
Message:

Yes, it should ask for the DVD to recover, that would be easy, because when he's asking for the dvd I can access the flash with Mio Transfer hack and copy what I need after, but no, it's not the case, that's why it's so strange, because after the flashing of the firmware, I do a reset without card, I get the screen with the stylus setup, then the language then the date and time, and when I press ok at time, I hang's. If I reset it again, I get the orange screen with the Mio logo and remain's like that without the posibility to do anything than a reflash.


Later edit:

Done testing the EEU firmware you gave me, exactly the same result like my old one. Very strange to me.


Reply author: SteeveG2
Replied on: 20 Feb 2010 20:38:03
Message:

Stelioskoz Sinxaritiria!!
g_alin, srelioskoz: Congratulations for your great job.


Reply author: OZChris
Replied on: 02 Mar 2010 03:11:03
Message:

Hi

I am trying to upgrade the software in my C220 and it comes up with 'required cold boot'. I cannot find anything about a cold boot? When I do a reset (hold power down for >6 secs), the MioMap icon is no longer active - all I can do is a reload from the CD?? Can someone help me understand what I have done wrong?

Thanks
Chris


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 02 Mar 2010 20:22:24
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

This post is intended for firmware upgrades (original or custom).
As a general rule, this post will be updated (from time to time) to reflect latest documents (or versions).

Last update: Friday, Feb 26, 2010

Question 1: what devices can be upgraded?
Answer 1: (until now) this procedure was tested on Mio C220_NA; C320; C520_EEU; C520T_WEU
Tested performed by: Mio C220_NA (me),Mio C250_EEU (tgg2k) , Mio C520_EEU (asgaard: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=5) C520T_WEU (krisvw: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=4), C320 (zeluis_cps: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=6), C520T_WEU (PeterMJ: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=6)

Question 2: how can I upgrade the firmware?
Answer 2: There is a small utility that is able to activate the UPGRADE screen. This upgrade screen will provide you the possibility to upgrade two components: uboot and wince.
http://www.4shared.com/file/230489598/7ba738b8/UPGRADE_MIO_26Feb10.html
In this package you’ll find the documentation available to perform the upgrade.
- Menu structure can be found in file menu.txt (UPGRADE_MIO_26Feb10.zip\SDCard\documents\menu.txt)
- Procedure (how to upgrade) can be found in file read-me.txt (UPGRADE_MIO_26Feb10.zip\SDCard\documents\read-me.txt)
WARNING: I DON'T RECOMMEND TO UPGRADE UBOOT.
WARNING: IN SOME CASES (read read-me.txt carefully) ALL THE INFORMATION FROM “MY FLASH DISK” MAY BE LOST, DO A BACK-UP FIRST.

Question 3: How can I come back to my old firmware (if I don’t like this new firmware)?
Answer 3: After you performed the upgrade is recommended to left the UPGRADE screen activated for a period of time (days, weeks) until are you 100% sure that your device is stable. After that you can disable the UPGRADE screen.
The firmwares that I have (so far) are:

C220_NA (R06.3.0165.0315) http://www.4shared.com/file/129432373/b6157f94/C220_NA_ROM_R06301650315.html (better option than R06.3)
C220_NA (R08.3.0165.0611) http://www.4shared.com/file/129432408/6bc9265e/C220_NA_ROM_R08301650611.html
C220_RUS (R05.3.0171.0911) http://www.4shared.com/file/129434239/16056665/C220_RUS_ROM_R05301710911.html
C220_WEU (R04.3.0168.0316) http://www.4shared.com/file/153597068/221d4465/C220_WEU_ROM_R04301680316.html
C220_WEU (R05.4.0168.0425) http://www.4shared.com/file/153632930/a59a99a0/C220_WEU_ROM_R05401680425.html
C220_EEU (R02.3.0173.0608) http://www.4shared.com/file/225563080/efefe1b9/C220_EEU_ROM_R02301730608.html
C220_EEU (MioMap2008?) (R02.0170_V2.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/230500935/70c78205/C220_EEU_ROM_R020170_V2000000.html
C220_EEU (Turkey ONLY) (R04.3.0172.0911) http://www.4shared.com/file/129442246/5eb06eff/C220_EEUT_ROM_R04301720911.html
C220_RUS-rev.230 (R00.2.9952.0229.64Mb) http://www.4shared.com/file/203306716/9d333d88/C220_RUS_ROM_R0029952022964Mb.html (base on SMDK2443)

C250_EEU (R03.3.0164.0416) http://www.4shared.com/file/129443927/cb04716b/C250_EEU_ROM_R03301640416.html
C250_EU (MioMap2008?) (R02.0164_v2.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/134364541/2a48b083/C250_EU_ROM_-_R020164_v2000000.html
I am not sure, but the firmware from C250 may work on C250 Plus also (and vice versa)
C250_Plus_EU (R11.3.0160.1107) http://www.4shared.com/file/134361154/73ee2da3/C250_EU_ROM_R11301601107.html
C250_Plus_EU (R17.4.0160.0917) http://www.4shared.com/file/143885453/7eb69489/C250_EU_ROM_R17401600917.html (better option than R11.3)

C320_NA (R40.3.9904.0720) http://www.4shared.com/file/129459508/324a3ec8/C320_NA_ROM_R40399040720.html
C320_WEU (R37.3.9926.0702) http://www.4shared.com/file/129446046/d2562dc6/c320_WEU_ROM_R37399260702.html

C520_WEU (R37.3.9931.0816) http://www.4shared.com/file/129460987/599e656f/C520T_WEU_ROM_R37399310816.html
C520_EEU (R02.3.9911.1018) http://www.4shared.com/file/129461850/cb2a83d3/C520_EEU_ROM_R02399111018.html
C520_EEUT (MioMap2008) (ROM_V1.00.0003) http://www.4shared.com/file/129467782/bebd8453/C520_EEUT_ROM_V1000003.html
C520_EEU_RUS (R45.3.9966.1010) http://www.4shared.com/file/129461931/ebb57ef4/C520_EEU_ROM_R45399661010.html
C520_EEU_HEBRAIC (R40.3.9932.0709) http://www.4shared.com/file/136394618/396ac4c3/C520_EEU_ROM_R40399320709.html
C520_AUS (R39.3.9965.0801) http://www.4shared.com/file/129463416/e536d20d/C520_AUS_ROM_R39399650801.html
C520_AUS (R41.3.9965.1031) http://www.4shared.com/file/214445692/a0781e28/C520_AUS_ROM_R41399651031.html
C520_NA (R48.3.9937.1026) http://www.4shared.com/file/143829336/5daf761c/C520_NA_ROM_R48399371026.html

Older series:
C310_ENG_EEU_RUS (R36F.3.1100.0702) http://www.4shared.com/file/129464116/7e2a285f/C310_ENG_RUS_ROM_R36F311000702.html

C510_ENG_EEU_RUS (R35F.3.126.0711) http://www.4shared.com/file/129466625/6348f428/C510_ENG_RUS_ROM_R35F31260711.html
C510_ENG_EEU (OSCAR210AEEUR33F) http://www.4shared.com/file/129466192/1b97aec5/C510_EEU_R33F.html

C710_ENG_EUR (R33F.2.112.517) http://www.4shared.com/file/129467139/ce16f8a2/C710_ENG_ROM_R33F2112517.html

H610_NA (R38.2.0153.1010) http://www.4shared.com/file/194548050/351060b2/H610_NA_ROM_R38201531010.html

If you have a different firmware you need to back-up your wince. To do that, you need DiscRW utility.
If your device is unlocked and you can run applications on your PNA, try to use this DiskRW software:
http://www.4shared.com/file/134354901/9ef633/DiskRW.html
instructions:
1.Start DiskRW
2.Select from combo-box (close to 'Store:') -> SMFlash
3.Press '...' button and select 'Storage Card' (where to save your SMFlash.img); If '...' doesn't work you can write (using any keyboard you have) the name of the SDCard folder of your PNA (ex: \Storage Card\, \SDMMC\ ...)
4.Press 'Read' button. A Hourglass will appear and it will take approx. 30 sec.
If the above application doesn't work, you should contact me to (on this thread) to fins a solution. Because every device is different I can’t give you a DiskRW custom made for your model.

For wince 4.2: you can use also bkondisk.exe (http://hpcmonex.net/roms/bkondisk.zip). For more info check: http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=82603&whichpage=2

Question 4: I lost 'My Flash Disk' can I recover it with this procedure?
Answer 4: Yes. You have to use 'wince by USB (Format)' to format your 'My Flash Disk'.
WARNING: ALL THE INFORMATION FROM “MY FLASH DISK” WILL BE LOST (and there is nothing you can do to save it).

Question 5: There is anything else that I should know?
Answer 5: Yes. There are no warranties what so ever; so all you do is on your own risk. Anyway I can tell you that I uploaded on my GPS (C220_NA) many not compatible firmwares. I wouldn’t recommend you to do that until you really know what you are doing. If you check the firmware before and is using the same SMFlash memory area, like your device, (theoretically) there is no risk. But like I said: DON’T TRY THAT (unless you really know what you’re doing).

Those Q/A will cover most of the questions, but if you have other questions (or any advice) please let me know. When other firmwares will be available I will update this post.

Custom firmwares (usually ‘custom’ stands for ‘changed’ - aka ROM cooking).

1. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) added. (doesn't work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129470682/1fc8ff6d/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_1.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.

2. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) and all office components added. (doesn’t work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129470932/f760619b/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_2.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.

3. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) and all office components added. Has a Navigator.lnk shortcut from Desktop to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap\Miomap.exe. If you have, more than one, navigation software you can place a script there - using mortscript switch command; to be able to start any of those applications. Also previous version has the FSRAMPERCENT to small -> was increased to 1.5M (doesn’t work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129471186/a5564a94/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_3.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.
- Taskbar is on top of the navigation software. FIX: Start \ Settings \ Taskbar and Start Menu -> CHECK Auto hide


With srelioskoz help we have a recovery method also for MOOV series :)

============================================================================================================
FIRST OF ALL DO NOT TRY ANYTHING IN YOUR MIO BEFORE YOU READ ALL THIS POST
IF YOU DONT SEE YOUR MIOs FIRMWARE DO NOT TRY WITH ANOTHER ONE

1)how to upgrade mio moov firmware
http://www.4shared.com/file/191674275/ad12bab0/cobia_420_64.html

mirror: http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html

download this file and put it in your sd card (this is for mio moov 360 if you have another mio moov you must rename the folder)
Moov 150 - European: Cobia_300L_32, North American: Cobia_300L_32_NA, Australian: Cobia_300L_32_AU
Moov 200 - European: Cobia_300_32, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_32_AU
Moov 200u - European: Cobia_300_64, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_64_AU
Moov 210 - European: Cobia_T300_32, North American: Cobia_T300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T300_32_AU
Moov 300 - European: Cobia_400_64, North American: Cobia_400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_400_64_AU
Moov 310 - European: Cobia_T400_64, North American: Cobia_T400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T400_64_AU
Moov 330 - European: Cobia_410_64, North American: Cobia_410_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_410_64_AU
Moov 360 - European: Cobia_420_64, North American: Cobia_420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_420_64_AU
Moov 370 - European: Cobia_T420_64, North American: Cobia_T420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T420_64_AU
Moov 500 - European: Cobia_500_64, North American: Cobia_500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_500_64_AU
Moov 500 R2 - European: Cobia500R2, North American: Cobia500R2_NA, Australian: Cobia500R2_AU
Moov 510 - European: Cobia_T500_64, North American: Cobia_T500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T500_64_AU
Moov 560 - European: Cobia_520_64, North American: Cobia_520_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_520_64_AU
Moov 580 - European: Cobia_T550_64, North American: Cobia_T550_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T550_64_AU


when you start up your mio this program will start by it self and will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE
choose USERMODE and OK to all it ask you.
then put power button to reset position and on again
your mio moov will start with blue upgrade screen.

download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card (use small cards 128M -> 1G)
startup your mio and you can see blue upgrade screen
touch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off and then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio without sd card and connect it to pc
open mio more desktop and write again mio map program and the map.
then put the power button to reset position and put the power button to on position
when you see the black screen with firmware of your mio ,push inside the sd card
your mio will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE ... choose SUPERMODE and ok to all it ask you

this is the firmware for mio moov 330 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html

firmware of moov 360 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/165538541/90b06686/MOOV_360_ROM.html

firmware of mio 300 europe
THIS IS NOT A GOOD FIRMWARE ... DON'T TRY TO LOAD IT
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/MOOV300_ .... winceimg.zip




2)How to repair your mio if no connection with pc
look this video to found how to make mio moov upgrade screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKM7C_6UYkw

look this video how to open mio moov application
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLKSG3U2VYk

look this link .on 4 page you can see the pinout of cobia electronic part (memory IC)
http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/datasheets/qi_lb60/U9~K9GAG08U0M~~2GB-FINAL_NAND-NOT_ON_SOME_PROTOTYPES~~.pdf


first put the sd card in to mio
1)put the power button to RESET position
2)carefully connect the wire as you see on the picture http://www.4shared.com/file/192360271/79584b60/moov330pcbback1.html
3)put the power button to ON position
4)you will see the blue screen
5)take the wire from the connect
6)if you want the normal screen put again the power swich to RESET position
7)if you want to make a selection when you have blue screen, touch on screen and then put the power buton to OFF and then ON position
8)DO NOT MAKE FORMAT SELECTION IF YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHIT FIRMWARE

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card
with blue upgrade screen touch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio and connect it to pc
open mio more desktop and write again mio map program and the map.

i d like to say thanks to g_alin for his help
STELIOS FROM GREECE
============================================================================================================

MOOV firmwares (some new devices don't have Recovery CD - in that case you should copy all data from \My Flash Disk folder before upgarade)

MOOV200_EU N177 (ROM_V1.00.0030) http://www.4shared.com/file/219174788/96724186/Moov200_EU_ROM_V1000030.html
MOOV330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0019) http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
MOOV330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0028) http://www.4shared.com/file/195309548/19093226/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000028.html
MOOV360_EU (ROM_V1.00.0021) http://www.4shared.com/file/194369290/8e042cc8/MOOV360_EU_ROM_V1000021.html
Moov370_EU(N179) (ROM_V1.00.0019_Cobia_T420_64_V_5.50.0212) http://www.4shared.com/file/223371963/c554911e/Moov370_N179__EU_ROM_V1000019.html
MOOV500_EU (ROM_V1.00.0004) http://www.4shared.com/file/218540220/91a947f0/MOOV500_EU_ROM_V1000004.html
MOOV500R2_NA (ROM_V1.9540.0012) http://www.4shared.com/file/194616656/765533d8/MOOV500R2-NA_ROM_V195400012.html
MOOV560_EU (ROM_T550R2.V1.00.0003) http://www.4shared.com/file/218546681/3e2368ec/Moov560_EU_ROM_T550R2V1000003.html (NOT TESTED)



Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 02 Mar 2010 20:38:51
Message:

Hello!I have an gps mio moov 200 and i have a problem when i turn on.a mesagge apear in the flat: fatal application error, application gwes.exe has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down . if the problem persist contact the program vendor.
program:gwes.exe
exeption : 0xc0000005
address: 00023178
I like knowing how to solve this problem. Can you help me ?? I΄m an argentine men and i don΄t speak english very well.Excuse me please thanks.

Mariano

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

This post is intended for firmware upgrades (original or custom).
As a general rule, this post will be updated (from time to time) to reflect latest documents (or versions).

Last update: Friday, Feb 26, 2010

Question 1: what devices can be upgraded?
Answer 1: (until now) this procedure was tested on Mio C220_NA; C320; C520_EEU; C520T_WEU
Tested performed by: Mio C220_NA (me),Mio C250_EEU (tgg2k) , Mio C520_EEU (asgaard: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=5) C520T_WEU (krisvw: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=4), C320 (zeluis_cps: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=6), C520T_WEU (PeterMJ: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=6)

Question 2: how can I upgrade the firmware?
Answer 2: There is a small utility that is able to activate the UPGRADE screen. This upgrade screen will provide you the possibility to upgrade two components: uboot and wince.
http://www.4shared.com/file/230489598/7ba738b8/UPGRADE_MIO_26Feb10.html
In this package you’ll find the documentation available to perform the upgrade.
- Menu structure can be found in file menu.txt (UPGRADE_MIO_26Feb10.zip\SDCard\documents\menu.txt)
- Procedure (how to upgrade) can be found in file read-me.txt (UPGRADE_MIO_26Feb10.zip\SDCard\documents\read-me.txt)
WARNING: I DON'T RECOMMEND TO UPGRADE UBOOT.
WARNING: IN SOME CASES (read read-me.txt carefully) ALL THE INFORMATION FROM “MY FLASH DISK” MAY BE LOST, DO A BACK-UP FIRST.

Question 3: How can I come back to my old firmware (if I don’t like this new firmware)?
Answer 3: After you performed the upgrade is recommended to left the UPGRADE screen activated for a period of time (days, weeks) until are you 100% sure that your device is stable. After that you can disable the UPGRADE screen.
The firmwares that I have (so far) are:

C220_NA (R06.3.0165.0315) http://www.4shared.com/file/129432373/b6157f94/C220_NA_ROM_R06301650315.html (better option than R06.3)
C220_NA (R08.3.0165.0611) http://www.4shared.com/file/129432408/6bc9265e/C220_NA_ROM_R08301650611.html
C220_RUS (R05.3.0171.0911) http://www.4shared.com/file/129434239/16056665/C220_RUS_ROM_R05301710911.html
C220_WEU (R04.3.0168.0316) http://www.4shared.com/file/153597068/221d4465/C220_WEU_ROM_R04301680316.html
C220_WEU (R05.4.0168.0425) http://www.4shared.com/file/153632930/a59a99a0/C220_WEU_ROM_R05401680425.html
C220_EEU (R02.3.0173.0608) http://www.4shared.com/file/225563080/efefe1b9/C220_EEU_ROM_R02301730608.html
C220_EEU (MioMap2008?) (R02.0170_V2.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/230500935/70c78205/C220_EEU_ROM_R020170_V2000000.html
C220_EEU (Turkey ONLY) (R04.3.0172.0911) http://www.4shared.com/file/129442246/5eb06eff/C220_EEUT_ROM_R04301720911.html
C220_RUS-rev.230 (R00.2.9952.0229.64Mb) http://www.4shared.com/file/203306716/9d333d88/C220_RUS_ROM_R0029952022964Mb.html (base on SMDK2443)

C250_EEU (R03.3.0164.0416) http://www.4shared.com/file/129443927/cb04716b/C250_EEU_ROM_R03301640416.html
C250_EU (MioMap2008?) (R02.0164_v2.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/134364541/2a48b083/C250_EU_ROM_-_R020164_v2000000.html
I am not sure, but the firmware from C250 may work on C250 Plus also (and vice versa)
C250_Plus_EU (R11.3.0160.1107) http://www.4shared.com/file/134361154/73ee2da3/C250_EU_ROM_R11301601107.html
C250_Plus_EU (R17.4.0160.0917) http://www.4shared.com/file/143885453/7eb69489/C250_EU_ROM_R17401600917.html (better option than R11.3)

C320_NA (R40.3.9904.0720) http://www.4shared.com/file/129459508/324a3ec8/C320_NA_ROM_R40399040720.html
C320_WEU (R37.3.9926.0702) http://www.4shared.com/file/129446046/d2562dc6/c320_WEU_ROM_R37399260702.html

C520_WEU (R37.3.9931.0816) http://www.4shared.com/file/129460987/599e656f/C520T_WEU_ROM_R37399310816.html
C520_EEU (R02.3.9911.1018) http://www.4shared.com/file/129461850/cb2a83d3/C520_EEU_ROM_R02399111018.html
C520_EEUT (MioMap2008) (ROM_V1.00.0003) http://www.4shared.com/file/129467782/bebd8453/C520_EEUT_ROM_V1000003.html
C520_EEU_RUS (R45.3.9966.1010) http://www.4shared.com/file/129461931/ebb57ef4/C520_EEU_ROM_R45399661010.html
C520_EEU_HEBRAIC (R40.3.9932.0709) http://www.4shared.com/file/136394618/396ac4c3/C520_EEU_ROM_R40399320709.html
C520_AUS (R39.3.9965.0801) http://www.4shared.com/file/129463416/e536d20d/C520_AUS_ROM_R39399650801.html
C520_AUS (R41.3.9965.1031) http://www.4shared.com/file/214445692/a0781e28/C520_AUS_ROM_R41399651031.html
C520_NA (R48.3.9937.1026) http://www.4shared.com/file/143829336/5daf761c/C520_NA_ROM_R48399371026.html

Older series:
C310_ENG_EEU_RUS (R36F.3.1100.0702) http://www.4shared.com/file/129464116/7e2a285f/C310_ENG_RUS_ROM_R36F311000702.html

C510_ENG_EEU_RUS (R35F.3.126.0711) http://www.4shared.com/file/129466625/6348f428/C510_ENG_RUS_ROM_R35F31260711.html
C510_ENG_EEU (OSCAR210AEEUR33F) http://www.4shared.com/file/129466192/1b97aec5/C510_EEU_R33F.html

C710_ENG_EUR (R33F.2.112.517) http://www.4shared.com/file/129467139/ce16f8a2/C710_ENG_ROM_R33F2112517.html

H610_NA (R38.2.0153.1010) http://www.4shared.com/file/194548050/351060b2/H610_NA_ROM_R38201531010.html

If you have a different firmware you need to back-up your wince. To do that, you need DiscRW utility.
If your device is unlocked and you can run applications on your PNA, try to use this DiskRW software:
http://www.4shared.com/file/134354901/9ef633/DiskRW.html
instructions:
1.Start DiskRW
2.Select from combo-box (close to 'Store:') -> SMFlash
3.Press '...' button and select 'Storage Card' (where to save your SMFlash.img); If '...' doesn't work you can write (using any keyboard you have) the name of the SDCard folder of your PNA (ex: \Storage Card\, \SDMMC\ ...)
4.Press 'Read' button. A Hourglass will appear and it will take approx. 30 sec.
If the above application doesn't work, you should contact me to (on this thread) to fins a solution. Because every device is different I can’t give you a DiskRW custom made for your model.

For wince 4.2: you can use also bkondisk.exe (http://hpcmonex.net/roms/bkondisk.zip). For more info check: http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=82603&whichpage=2

Question 4: I lost 'My Flash Disk' can I recover it with this procedure?
Answer 4: Yes. You have to use 'wince by USB (Format)' to format your 'My Flash Disk'.
WARNING: ALL THE INFORMATION FROM “MY FLASH DISK” WILL BE LOST (and there is nothing you can do to save it).

Question 5: There is anything else that I should know?
Answer 5: Yes. There are no warranties what so ever; so all you do is on your own risk. Anyway I can tell you that I uploaded on my GPS (C220_NA) many not compatible firmwares. I wouldn’t recommend you to do that until you really know what you are doing. If you check the firmware before and is using the same SMFlash memory area, like your device, (theoretically) there is no risk. But like I said: DON’T TRY THAT (unless you really know what you’re doing).

Those Q/A will cover most of the questions, but if you have other questions (or any advice) please let me know. When other firmwares will be available I will update this post.

Custom firmwares (usually ‘custom’ stands for ‘changed’ - aka ROM cooking).

1. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) added. (doesn't work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129470682/1fc8ff6d/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_1.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.

2. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) and all office components added. (doesn’t work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129470932/f760619b/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_2.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.

3. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) and all office components added. Has a Navigator.lnk shortcut from Desktop to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap\Miomap.exe. If you have, more than one, navigation software you can place a script there - using mortscript switch command; to be able to start any of those applications. Also previous version has the FSRAMPERCENT to small -> was increased to 1.5M (doesn’t work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129471186/a5564a94/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_3.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.
- Taskbar is on top of the navigation software. FIX: Start \ Settings \ Taskbar and Start Menu -> CHECK Auto hide


With srelioskoz help we have a recovery method also for MOOV series :)

============================================================================================================
FIRST OF ALL DO NOT TRY ANYTHING IN YOUR MIO BEFORE YOU READ ALL THIS POST
IF YOU DONT SEE YOUR MIOs FIRMWARE DO NOT TRY WITH ANOTHER ONE

1)how to upgrade mio moov firmware
http://www.4shared.com/file/191674275/ad12bab0/cobia_420_64.html

mirror: http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html

download this file and put it in your sd card (this is for mio moov 360 if you have another mio moov you must rename the folder)
Moov 150 - European: Cobia_300L_32, North American: Cobia_300L_32_NA, Australian: Cobia_300L_32_AU
Moov 200 - European: Cobia_300_32, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_32_AU
Moov 200u - European: Cobia_300_64, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_64_AU
Moov 210 - European: Cobia_T300_32, North American: Cobia_T300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T300_32_AU
Moov 300 - European: Cobia_400_64, North American: Cobia_400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_400_64_AU
Moov 310 - European: Cobia_T400_64, North American: Cobia_T400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T400_64_AU
Moov 330 - European: Cobia_410_64, North American: Cobia_410_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_410_64_AU
Moov 360 - European: Cobia_420_64, North American: Cobia_420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_420_64_AU
Moov 370 - European: Cobia_T420_64, North American: Cobia_T420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T420_64_AU
Moov 500 - European: Cobia_500_64, North American: Cobia_500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_500_64_AU
Moov 500 R2 - European: Cobia500R2, North American: Cobia500R2_NA, Australian: Cobia500R2_AU
Moov 510 - European: Cobia_T500_64, North American: Cobia_T500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T500_64_AU
Moov 560 - European: Cobia_520_64, North American: Cobia_520_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_520_64_AU
Moov 580 - European: Cobia_T550_64, North American: Cobia_T550_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T550_64_AU


when you start up your mio this program will start by it self and will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE
choose USERMODE and OK to all it ask you.
then put power button to reset position and on again
your mio moov will start with blue upgrade screen.

download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card (use small cards 128M -> 1G)
startup your mio and you can see blue upgrade screen
touch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off and then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio without sd card and connect it to pc
open mio more desktop and write again mio map program and the map.
then put the power button to reset position and put the power button to on position
when you see the black screen with firmware of your mio ,push inside the sd card
your mio will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE ... choose SUPERMODE and ok to all it ask you

this is the firmware for mio moov 330 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html

firmware of moov 360 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/165538541/90b06686/MOOV_360_ROM.html

firmware of mio 300 europe
THIS IS NOT A GOOD FIRMWARE ... DON'T TRY TO LOAD IT
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/MOOV300_ .... winceimg.zip




2)How to repair your mio if no connection with pc
look this video to found how to make mio moov upgrade screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKM7C_6UYkw

look this video how to open mio moov application
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLKSG3U2VYk

look this link .on 4 page you can see the pinout of cobia electronic part (memory IC)
http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/datasheets/qi_lb60/U9~K9GAG08U0M~~2GB-FINAL_NAND-NOT_ON_SOME_PROTOTYPES~~.pdf


first put the sd card in to mio
1)put the power button to RESET position
2)carefully connect the wire as you see on the picture http://www.4shared.com/file/192360271/79584b60/moov330pcbback1.html
3)put the power button to ON position
4)you will see the blue screen
5)take the wire from the connect
6)if you want the normal screen put again the power swich to RESET position
7)if you want to make a selection when you have blue screen, touch on screen and then put the power buton to OFF and then ON position
8)DO NOT MAKE FORMAT SELECTION IF YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHIT FIRMWARE

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card
with blue upgrade screen touch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio and connect it to pc
open mio more desktop and write again mio map program and the map.

i d like to say thanks to g_alin for his help
STELIOS FROM GREECE
============================================================================================================

MOOV firmwares (some new devices don't have Recovery CD - in that case you should copy all data from \My Flash Disk folder before upgarade)

MOOV200_EU N177 (ROM_V1.00.0030) http://www.4shared.com/file/219174788/96724186/Moov200_EU_ROM_V1000030.html
MOOV330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0019) http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
MOOV330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0028) http://www.4shared.com/file/195309548/19093226/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000028.html
MOOV360_EU (ROM_V1.00.0021) http://www.4shared.com/file/194369290/8e042cc8/MOOV360_EU_ROM_V1000021.html
Moov370_EU(N179) (ROM_V1.00.0019_Cobia_T420_64_V_5.50.0212) http://www.4shared.com/file/223371963/c554911e/Moov370_N179__EU_ROM_V1000019.html
MOOV500_EU (ROM_V1.00.0004) http://www.4shared.com/file/218540220/91a947f0/MOOV500_EU_ROM_V1000004.html
MOOV500R2_NA (ROM_V1.9540.0012) http://www.4shared.com/file/194616656/765533d8/MOOV500R2-NA_ROM_V195400012.html
MOOV560_EU (ROM_T550R2.V1.00.0003) http://www.4shared.com/file/218546681/3e2368ec/Moov560_EU_ROM_T550R2V1000003.html (NOT TESTED)



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 02 Mar 2010 21:18:11
Message:

mariano66,
How did you den up in this situation? can you tell me the history of this GPS?


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 05 Mar 2010 15:48:38
Message:

Hello again ! and thankyou for reply me ... we bougth the gps in italy without knowing that it had no maps of argentina.
We install Igo 8 from the target SD, and it began operated . One day we took on it and threw error and it was not working.
it never more started working . i only get comunication with the computer when it turns itself of and i plug in with the computer, i can enter in the gps memory and in the SD memory but not where is intalled Windows Cobia CE 5.0 (i think the problem is there).

thank yuo for your help


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 05 Mar 2010 18:03:55
Message:

mariano..
if you pc can see the mio moov ,maybe you can unlock it
i will send you a program to unlock it from your pc and then you can run any program like igo 8,destinator, etc

ok this is the link. download it connect your mio to pc and run setup.exe then press unlock
when it writes unlocked close mio moov and disconnect it
you can lock again the application with same program
http://www.4shared.com/file/193620942/c4139a3f/_2__mio_unlocker.html

inside this file i have one image with name i.bmp
connect your mio copy this image and paste it in your upplication.
when you start your mio you will see the image on your screen

now you can put the programs in sd card and you can run them from there. i will show you how to make sortcut on your screen
you can see up left side of scren (start)
1 press start
2 press fileman ce
3 press storage card
4 press the file with the program you wand to run for example igo 8
5 fint igo8.exe and press on it 1 time it will be blue
6 press up left side e leter .it means file but there is a flag on it
7 press create a sortcut and then ok
8 connect mio to pc
9 open my computer
10 find storage card and open file igo 8
11 find the shortcut that you create and make a copy
12 go to my computer again and open mio device
13 open program files, then unlock ,then desktop
14 make paste
close your mio take of usb cable and open again mio
you will see the new shortcut press on it and the program start
you may have many programs in your sd card and many sortcats on your screen


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 05 Mar 2010 20:06:04
Message:

thankyou for the idea but the problem is that when i switch on the mio moov i can΄t do anything because the message is in the flat and i can΄t close it ..... the message is :
fatal application error, application gwes.exe has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down . if the problem persist contact the program vendor.
program:gwes.exe
exeption : 0xc0000005
address: 00023178
The problem isn΄t in the maps aplication is in windows CE Cobia 5.0.
i don΄t know how to reinsatll it.
thankyou for yuour help but i think the gps is dead!!!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 05 Mar 2010 20:50:58
Message:

ok mariano
this program gwes.exe is in the file windows
but in my mio when i connect it with pc i can see the files clm,program files,device.xml and paths.xml. i can see only the files from my flash disk.
when i unlock it, i can see the files storage card, windows,program files,my documents.
if you wand to see windows file ,try to unlock it.but i dont knaw if it will works.
i think that you need to make firmware upgrade by following the instructions of 1st page (2)How to repair your mio if no connection with pc)
but first wait for G-alin's answer.
may be he has another solution


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 06 Mar 2010 01:48:27
Message:

thankyou srelioskoz! i have comunication but i only i can see the SD card content and of the gps memory only i have access for the program maps files and i can΄t enter on windows files
how can i acess to the gps and format it? is it posible? is any program ?
thankyou again


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 06 Mar 2010 04:04:31
Message:

mariano66,
I don't have an answer ... lets try this experiment:
(assuming that you have a Moov 200 EU the autostart folder is "Cobia_300_32").
Copy this unlock to SDCard ...
http://www.4shared.com/file/235228738/f4a1b722/Cobia_300_32.html
After that (disconnected from PC) do a hardware reset; (you get the error ... ); insert the SDCard and wait to see if is going to restart.
If is not restarting let the SDCard in GPS and do hardware reset again - hopefully will restart then ... (by him self)

If my unlock will execute you will see that application AppStartPri.exe will not start. My assumption is that application AppStartPri.exe is causing the problems ...

If my unlock is working (after restart - done by my unlock) you will see only the orange screen (with Mio); not see any error; and your USB connection is not going to work.

Please let me know the experiments result. (will continue Monday - "Argentina time")


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 07 Mar 2010 22:02:07
Message:

Hello g_alin!! I did what you say but it not worked, the gps no read the SD target what i can do for send you a film about my gps when i turn on??, I think it is important for you to see the flaw that makes my gps!!!!
Thankyou!!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 07 Mar 2010 22:15:45
Message:

mariano66,
you can try youtube.com or make a file (mpg or avi-mpeg4) and upload it to 4shared or anywhere you like (send a short movie - less than 5 min for example ...)


Reply author: cairo31male
Replied on: 07 Mar 2010 22:49:44
Message:

Hello g_alin,
Could you please help with this:

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=133762

Thank you very much.


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 08 Mar 2010 17:40:07
Message:

Hi!

First of all, thanks a lot to srelioskoz and g_alin for a wonderful stuff! You guys make people happy :)

Now the question: I have Mio MOOV 300 (European version). As many of people here, I messed with the AppStartupSec and the device fails to load + no USB connection. As I see the only solution is to do the job with pin 9 and firmware upgrade.

Which firmware image should I use? Is there some problem with http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/MOOV300_winceimg.zip?
If so, should I try with one for 330 or 360 model?

According to device.xml it's Cobia_400_64 model.

Thanks in advance


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 08 Mar 2010 18:24:39
Message:

barmaley77
hi before you make firmware upgrade...
i dont know if it works but make a try
http://www.4shared.com/file/209245140/85b3958f/paths.html
download this file .open it and put the files 2577 and paths.xml in your sd card.
put the button of your mio to on position and wen you see the orange screen push inside the card
if all work ok the program will make the paths.xml as before.
if not work try to push inside the card when you see the first screen with cobia_400_64
if not work then rename the file 2577 to cobia_400_64 and make a try

if not work, you must to do firmware upgrade.
g_alin will tell you about your firmware.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 08 Mar 2010 23:55:49
Message:

cairo31male,
I checked your (Spirit) firmware ... I never extracted winceimg for this model ... but is a good moment to start doing that ;)
please tell me the menu that you have when you enter to Blue Screen (please list all options that you have for upgrade).

barmaley77,
probably Moov 330 is more or less the same ... but you can try to find one GSP the same model / region and download the SMFlash from it.


Reply author: cairo31male
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 00:06:25
Message:

g_alin,
Thank you very much for your response.

Blue screen:

Seeker500STF128_R02_0519 MLC 2G

0=Base & Region CE Upgrade
1=GPS Tools
2=BT Tools
3=Base CE Upgrade
4=UBOOT Upgrade
5=Memory Tools
6=Other Tools
7=TestMode Tools
Choice: 0

As the touch screen does not respond, I can only get into menu 0 which gives:

Base & Region CE Upgrade

0=Base & Region by SD/MMC (Format)
1=Base & Region by SD/MMC
2=Base & Region by USB (Format)
3=Base & Region by USB
4=Exit
Choice: 0

So the only option I can perform is:
0=Base & Region by SD/MMC (Format)
That's why I need the Winceimg.bin to flash through SD card.

Thanks again.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 03:00:54
Message:

I don't think the touch screen is the problem (that stop you to browse the menus).
Probably for SEEKER series there is another way to navigate through menus ... try double click on the power button ...
wince and bootloader are two different OSs ... if you didn't upgrade the UBOOT the bootloader is the original one ... so probably you have to figure out how to navigate through menus.
This is a preliminary version:
http://www.4shared.com/file/237192009/a4a27000/MoovS568_EU_ROM_SEEKERR2000084.html
May work or may not work (no warranty on this matter) ... try it on your own risk.
If doesn't work let me know ... we can try to change it.
My recommendation is to try to upgrade without "(Format)" and "Base CE Upgrade" to upgrade only wince.
Some information:
0=Base & Region CE Upgrade => Base = winceimg.bin + Region = region.bin
When I have some news for Clarion I'll let you know.

LE:
also the Clarion EZD580:
http://www.4shared.com/file/237243823/beea7b5e/Clarion_EZD580_ROM_R1041331051.html


Reply author: cairo31male
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 04:05:58
Message:

g_alin,

Again thank you very much for everything.

For the Spirit:

1. To navigate the menus, the only info I could find on the net was

through pressing on the screen. I tried everything I could think of,

including popping the card in and out, pluging USB in and out etc.

nothiing works. The power button on the spirit is a 3 way switch with

ON-OFF-RESET. So there is no way to double press or long press, etc.

Actually to select highlighted option, one slides the switch to OFF the ON again. Nothing else to modify selection.

As I am willing to take risks (otherwise I wouldn't have bricked both devices), I tried to flash the files right away.

First Test:
BOOTSEC is in Sector 135!!
MountDisk SUCCESS!!
Open Region image ...
Region Image filesize overflow.
AND IN RED: Write Region Fail! Please retry!

And if I remove the region files:
BOOTSEC is in Sector 135!!
MountDisk SUCCESS!!
Open Region image ...
Can not find REGION.CKS
AND IN RED: Write Region Fail! Please retry!

For Clarion: Will test right now and report:)


Reply author: cairo31male
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 04:20:24
Message:

g_alin,

You are a GENIUS!!!

Clarion Back to life :)))

By the way, for reference, the unit is manufactured my Mitac and marketed in the US under the name Clarion EZD580 and in Europe under the name Clarion Map780 or MAP680, depending on installed maps.

THANKS!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 04:26:49
Message:

good to know that we have (half) of success :) .
You can try to slide twice (as fast as you can) ... when you slide ON/OFF pay attention to the timing: is selecting when you turned back to ON or when is in OFF; You can try to keep the slide to OFF for one second (or two) ... use you slide button like a push button (ther is no difference from his point of view).
Try this for Mio:
http://www.4shared.com/file/237269439/5b43e961/MoovS568_EU_ROM_SEEKERR2000084.html


Reply author: cairo31male
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 04:34:24
Message:



Tried all the timing games, and combinations of ON - OFF - Reset - OFF - Reset - ON etc... I could think of...

For the new file, still same result: Region Image filesize overflow.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 04:51:46
Message:

Let's see if this is the "one":
http://www.4shared.com/file/237280467/3b4c1c8/MoovS568_EU_ROM_SEEKERR2000084.html

PS: we don't have to many to test :)


Reply author: cairo31male
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 05:15:33
Message:

Well it sure seems "this IS the one".

You did it again !

Flash Successfull for both region and wince.

Then I reinstalled Factory software.

However, I still do not have a touchscreen (not in bootloader mode nor in Wince).

It seems it may be a hardware issue after all? But that would be very strange as the unit is brand new and was working for 2 days. The touchscreen stopped responding after I installed one of the unlocks.... hmmmm.....

Any ideas?



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 05:36:08
Message:

Strange ... can you tell me the site that said is going to "modify default setting" ... I am interested to read it.
Theoretically speaking: If you reflashed your firmware and you reloade it your My Flash Disk you should have a brand new device ...
Only if you have a hardware problem :( an unlock that could break your touch screen ... :( that will be really bad.


Reply author: cairo31male
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 06:11:38
Message:


Well, this is the one:

http://navmanunlocked.wikispaces.com/Configure+WinCE

Originally, I thought it modified regisry settings that have to do with the touchscreen, and as you say that reflashing the firmware and restoring the flash disk would restore everything how it should be.

But since that was not the case, I think now it might have been a hardware issue that coincided with the installation of the unlock ...?...?


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 14:39:49
Message:

Thanks for the prompt reply! :)

srelioskoz,
If I could make things run off the SD card it would be much easier to fix... I tried whatever was reminded in this forum and others too - but nothing! Played around with the name of the folder, put in the SD card during different phases of startup, drained out the battery. It feels like this device doesn't ever try to read from the SD card.

g_alin,
It turns out to be difficult to find one with the exactly same device... I think I'm going to try the firmware update method. My device (MOOV 300) shows COBIA400.V1.00.0028 while the supposed image you posted is from MOOV 330 V1.00.0019. How much is this risky to try this? Will the device die completely in case of unsuccess or may I try further afterwards?


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 15:11:03
Message:

I've payed attention just now that there is also V1.00.0028 version of ROM on the first page. This seems to be the most close to mine except it's from MOOV 330 while I have MOOV 300. Is that significant? I'm asking all these questions to try to be on the safe side and learn as much as possible before starting because I'm really afraid of ruining the device...


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 20:32:54
Message:

barmaley77,
To be in the safe side find one device same Model/Region and download the SMFlash.img. If you use the Moov330 no matter if is one firmware or another ... You have to understand that you don't overwrite the bootloader, only the winceimg. I flashed on my C220 other firmwares (from C250 ...) and didn't overwrite the bootloader ... but that doesn't necessary shold tell you that is safe to do that on your moov. Anyway for sure the safest is to find one identical device ... let me know if you need help.


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 21:12:09
Message:

g_alin,

To be clear I'll tell you the whole story: I tried to install IGO8 and didn't read all the MOOV 300 related topics (not very clever idea...). So, I replaced the AppStartupSec.exe in \My Flash Disk\Program Files\MioMap\ folder by the script engine, which I've named AppStartupSec.exe. More than that, I forgot to rename the script file to have the same name (AppStartupSec). Apparently, when device starts now I get the orange screen and very soon comes a message box: Error #2: CreateFile \My Flash Disk\Program Files\MioMap\AppStartupSec.scp. This message box is displayed by the script engine I guess. Then device stucks... I can press OK - doesn't matter. Also there is no USB connection whatsoever, doesn't matter when or how I try to connect it. Also I didn't find a way to run anything from the SDCard (COBIA_400_64 folder with auto.exe etc.) If I could do so I could run a script to fix up things. But it seems the device doesn't even try to read from the SDCard...

So, my last resort was to try the pin 9 firmware upgrade trick. I did everything like described here (used the MOOV 330 ROM image V1.00.0028) and things went as expected: I got the blue screen, selected WinCE upgrade by SD/MMC and then these lines appeared:
Waiting!!
BOOTSEC is in Sector 101!!
MountDisk SUCCESS!
Open CEimage...
Checksum: 0x43a048e6
Writing CE image...
BINFS img
Read progress:100% - (this one is on violet background)

And then nothing for several minutes. So, I guessed it had been completed... I put my device switch to "reset" and then "on" and there was no change to my disappointment - when the orange screen came up there was soon the same damned message box! (ERROR #2...). And there was no possibility to connect the USB like before.

P.S. I tried with the MOOV 330 image as long as a really didn't manage to find exactly same device yet...

Do you have any idea?

Thank you very much for your patience :)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 21:27:02
Message:

barmaley77,
To fix your problem you need to perform the upgrade with FORMAT. This way the upgrade will delete all your My Flash Disk. After restart (when wince will see that My Flash Disk is empty) will ask you to "Restore from CD/DVD" the navigation software. Insert the original CD/DVD (that came with device or upgrade) and do the restore. After that you'll have a life GPS. Let me know if it works like that :)


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 22:21:32
Message:

g_alin,

Here are my new findings:
1) The WINCE upgrade I described before was from this menu item: 0=WINCE by SD/MMC (Format)
2) I tried now to run the next item "1=WINCE by SD/MMC" and saw it's working differently. It doens't stuck at BINFS image, but proceeds further and makes the wanted stuff like writing new image, clearing BINFS etc. It finishes up with the message "Now you can reset the device". So I guess the 0 option is not working as needed in my case - it stucks in the middle for some reason. So it's not miracle that nothing changes...
3) I have 5=Other tools menu with the following items:
0=CPLD Upgrade by SD/MMC
1=CPLD Upgrade by USB
2=Read CPLD user code
3=CPLD Updrage by SD/MMC (Inverse)
4=CPLD Upgrade by USB (Inverse)
5=Read CPLD user code (Inverse)
6=Download & Run
7=Nand Tools
8=Format
9=Exit

So, should I use this 8=Format somehow? Because I saw lazzarusbr in this topic did some format on his device and according to him it screwed up his device completely. So it's a little bit scary to try - I'd like to hear your advice before...

Thanks in advance :)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Mar 2010 23:33:20
Message:

barmaley77,
OPTION 1:
and now if you try to upgrade (without format) you get the same error? So the previous upgrade (with format) already deleted the My Flash Disk?
Don't play with 8=Format ... I would check 6=Download & Run ... sound promising ... if you can run an image from SDCard you can try to fix everything manually.
OPTION 2:
I change one Moov 330 firmware to start FileManCE.exe from \Windows (for example) and you upload that image ... and fix everything manually.

Let me know the option you choose.


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 10 Mar 2010 01:17:26
Message:

g_alin,

You're really wonderful expert. I appreciate your support very much.
Now I feel a little bit uncomfortable because I didn't wait enough for your response and did that 8=Format thing... The interesting part is that this helped me to fix the damn thing! :)

But now I'll tell it clearly from the beginning so that may be it will help other people...
The option "0=WINCE by SD/MMC" (Format)" was stucking while "1=WINCE by SD/MMC" was doing things, but without any visible effect afterwards. And then I decided to try this 8=Format although it was scary... (please don't be angry, I really appreciate your help :)
After I selected this, it told me "Erase Flash" in the middle of the screen for several seconds and then the menu repainted itself and I was able to return with 9=Exit option to the main menu where I tried the "0=WINCE by SD/MMC" (Format)" again and voila! It proceeded further, made the writing, formatting, checksum, and finally said "Reset the device". When I reset the device it came again with the blue screen (though I didn't play with the 9 pin at all...) and I didn't understand how to get rid of this... Then I recalled to pull out the SD Card, Reset the device and then finally it started with showing the updated version of COBIA system on the black screen and when the orange screen came it was able to connect to the USB. So, here comes the happy end! :) I copied all the old contents from the backup I've made before playing (at least one clever thing I've done... :). So now I have a fresh IGO8 running on it and the FileManCE too. By the way, the correct place to put your custom application on this damned device is at appstartupsec.ini in the [Process1] section ProcessFile=<Your shell or navigation program>. But not to touch appstartupsec.exe or paths.xml!!!

Again, thank you very much! I really loved the 2 options you gave. In fact it was worth trying and definitely you have much more imagination to check things in a safe way, than I have...


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Mar 2010 01:36:21
Message:

barmaley77,
Is good to know that 8=Format is not killing the device (if after that; right away) you upload the wince.
I think you need to 'close' the UPGRADE screen (follow the procedure described in page=1) ... otherwise you'll get the BLUE SCREEN anytime you have an SDCard and perform the reset. By format that settings is set to default (BLUE SCREEN accessible).
OR if you want to unlock/mod maybe is a good idea to left the BLUE SCREEN accessible (for recovering) - (the PIN 9 is less saver than the software option ;) )
If you ask me the best place to put something is in \windows\ ... so my (personal opinion) is that the 'NAVMAN' type of function has a really BIG problem: if you have an error on your My Flash Disk you're busted !.
So to conclude: probably a custom firmware that has some 'intelligent' mortscript in \windows\ should be done in order to avoid this type of problems ... unfortunately I don't have a Moov type of GPS to test my ideas but if some one is interested on custom firmware for his device (to fix this possible problem) let me know ... and we can talk about.
Don't forget that you have the Moov330 firmware ... may not work 100% reliable. Try to find a Moov300 device to extract the SMFlash ;) .


Reply author: cairo31male
Replied on: 10 Mar 2010 03:17:51
Message:

g_alin,

Hello again. I want to thank you very much for all your help and all the great work you are doing.

I see the firmwares have already been listed in the first page. You might want to complement with the following info:

1. For the spirit(MIO MOOV S568), after flashing the firmware, the software can be reinstalled with the current latest version downloadable at:

https://register.navman.com/installer/?BRANDNAME=mio&HARDWARENAME=SEEKER_FT525&SKUID=9248&DISPLAYNAME=Moov%20S568&LANGUAGE=en-US&DEVICEVERSION=6.10
This will recover the "My Flash Disk", as the device does not come with a recovery DVD. Then the utility MioMore on the shipped DVD can be used to recover subscriptions, maps, etc.

2. For the Clarion EZD580, it is marketed in Europe under the names Clarion Map780 and Clarion MAP680, depending on installed maps, so basically it should be the same firmware.

Thanks again for everything.

P.S. Still trying to figure out the touchscreen issue. Will let you know if I reach something, else it is "return to factory"...

PS 2 : P.P.S. We all know you are a genius, futuristic maybe, but how the hell did you manage to edit your first post on may 9, 2010 and come back? :) :)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Mar 2010 04:26:35
Message:

thank you cairo31male,
I am "Back to the Future" ;)


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 10 Mar 2010 07:42:29
Message:

hi g_alin
can we found the firmware of mio moov 150?


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 10 Mar 2010 18:36:38
Message:

g_alin,
You're absolutely right about the blue screen configuration - I'll handle that. Nice tip! :)

1) Basically you're right that putting some launcher in \windows\ would be the best practice, but keep in mind that initially this not very friendly device doesn't give any possibility to run custom stuff other than playing around with the internal flash (appstartupsec etc.), which is much like the NAVMAN method you mentioned. In my case there was no possibility to run anything from the SD card and also the upgrade screen became visible only after connecting pin 9 to the ground.

MUCH KUDOS TO YOU, SRELIOSKOZ!!! :)

So, in order to make this launcher from \windows\ work the user will need somehow to invoke the upgrade. And I see no way other than the dangerous one...

2) Yes, the firmware is from MOOV 330 (COBIA410.V1.00.0028) instead of COBIA400.V1.00.0028. The version is the same, only the 410 instead of 400. I'm not sure what is the exact difference, but currently I see no apparent change. Everything working fine, all the hardware - sound, screen light, gps receiver etc. I think it's satisfactory to leave it like that...

3) Tell me, just I'm curious about: if I hadn't updated the WINCE + (Format) right after doing 8=Format would that kill my device??? I mean no possibility to invoke the blue screen later with 9 pin etc.? I think this 8=Format is just deleting the internal flash... So that it's not related to blue screen and updating the CE core. Or am I totally wrong?

4) Can you please share the method of converting the image extracted by DiskRW into the winceimg.bin + cks? And also how to you add custom stuff to it - like FileManCE on startup? I would appreciate your knowledge sharing very much :) Also it can be done by PM if you like...

Thank you very much for all the help!!! :)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Mar 2010 19:44:28
Message:

srelioskoz,
If someone is going to upload the SMFlash.img I will extract the winceimg.bin ... (personally, I don't have this SMFlash.img :( )

barmaley77,
You tell me that: if you have a folder on SDCard "\Cobia_400_64\auto.exe" is not started automatically (if you have a new device)? is not going to start the 'auto.exe' automatically?
Even if is not started automatically we can try to use RAPI to start an application remotely (over USB) ... like the unlock from NAVMAN (http://navmanunlocked.wikispaces.com/) ... anyway will find later on the right approach.

3) I don't know. I am trying to explain the procedure (done by you); that we know exactly that was working. Every new 'experiment' is very risky ... specially on the Format or bootloader matter.

4) Yes. Now I am busy with some stuff ... I have to change the ROMMasterCE5 to handle MOOV series ... sometime. (unfortunately I don't know when ...)


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 11 Mar 2010 02:11:06
Message:

Hello G_alin sory for the delay but i was with some problems ! I got the video for youtube the name is ¨ gps mio moov 200 error mariano66¨ enter to see it and then we talk ....

THANKYOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP !!!!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Mar 2010 04:14:22
Message:

mariano66,
Sorry, I was unable to find the movie using the search words "gps mio moov 200 error mariano66". Please send me the link to the youtube file.


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 11 Mar 2010 16:54:39
Message:

g_alin,

You asked me a question, which required a certain research...
So, finally I came to the following: the "\Storage Card\Cobia_4**_64\auto.exe" starts only AFTER the process specified in "\My Flash Disk\Program Files\MioMap\appstartupsec.ini" under section [Process1] ProcessFile=<xxx.exe is terminated. In my case that's not the problem to do - I just exit the file manager I put there. But on a new device xxx=miomap.exe!!! And there is no visible way to exit this damn application (not like igo8) nor to kill it...


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Mar 2010 19:32:21
Message:

barmaley77,
(on a new device) if you do a RESET and (before power on) you plug the USB to PC, the application "miomap.exe" is started?


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 12 Mar 2010 00:28:42
Message:

Hello g_alin !! This is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCTpvdNEWm8


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 12 Mar 2010 11:18:30
Message:

g_alin,

I'm not 100% sure about that... Currently I don't have a new device to test it because mine is not in that initial state after all I've done. But I did what you decribed in the current state and I saw the USB connection screen appearance soon after the orange MIO startup screen - there was no visible signs of starting the file manager, which I currently have in appstartupsec.ini. So, I suppose it was not started and miomap.exe should be the same as long as it's launched exactly the same way...


Reply author: update
Replied on: 12 Mar 2010 16:27:30
Message:

g_alin,
I was looking at your post in te begining

But I the link for Mio Moov 300 Firmware is broken.
Where can I find the firmware for the Mio Moov 300 (COBIA400.V1.00.028 or similiar) ?

I'm used COBIA420.V1.00.028 instead but The MioMap 2008 won't start (it get some kind of error and keeps restarting)
Thank you,
Mick


Reply author: _hedgehog
Replied on: 12 Mar 2010 19:01:58
Message:

Hi g_alin,
could you please have a look at my Mio H610 Rom which is slightly newer than the one provided:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nzztz0qlmzm
Its an European ROM:
H610.R50.3.0150.1123_WEU
I made it with bkondisk.exe so it is not flashable and I wasn't able to remove the garbage myself.
After playing a bit with the bootloader I got my H610 bricked and reactivated it successfully with the H610 Rom on the first page:
bootloader - FlashRom Upgrade - 0 = WINCE by SD/MMC
Thank God!
and Thank You for this Rom!
nannys_hedgehog


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Mar 2010 20:36:58
Message:

mariano66,
Can you do the same experiment but with USB cable connected to PC?

barmaley77,
Ok. I am thinking at something regarding the "silent" start-up mortscript.
I see two options:
1. one script that is shown after RESET and auto close him self after 5 seconds. If you press the 'Yes' filemanCE is started. If you restart your GPS is not going to start again (only first time after RESET).
2. one that start every time (you restart your GPS), wait 10 seconds, check if you insert any SDCard, and if you have auto.exe on your SDCard execute that auto.exe.
Any new ideas are welcome.

update (Mick),
we don't have a firmware for Moov300. Until now nobody downloaded the SMFlash from Moov300. That firmware was not for moov300 (was a regrettable mistake). Please use only the link from first page ... those are in "safe" area, most of them are tested.

_hedgehog (nannys_hedgehog),
Let me know if it works:
http://www.4shared.com/file/239872283/472a538c/H610_WEU_ROM_R50301501123.html


Reply author: _hedgehog
Replied on: 12 Mar 2010 23:54:22
Message:

g_alin,
cool thanks a lot. Its working, I have my ROM back.
How did you do this that fast. Do you have a tool to do it?
What makes the H610.R50.3.0150.1123_WEU better:
- that annoying clicking sound with every input has vanished
- I had the other ROM only some hours but the battery management seemed faulty to me

Thanks
_hedgehog


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Mar 2010 00:22:30
Message:

_hedgehog,
I don't have any custom tool to do that. I used dumprom.exe, winhex (for CRC32 calculation) and XVI32 for bin cut/paste/save as ...
The "clicking sound" is when you tap on the screen? that can be removed / changed from Control panel. Anyway is good to know the differences between ROMs.
The steps to extract one firmware are:
1. find and extract the HEADER
2. find and extract the ROMs
3. find and extract the CHAIN
4. (using dumprom.exe) check the ROMs length. (HEADER length = 584, CHAIN lenght = 1320)
5. (using XVI32) stick all parts together (order: HEADER, XIPKERNEL, CHAIN, XIP)
6. (using winhex) make winceimg.cks


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 13 Mar 2010 03:09:26
Message:

Hello, g_alin:
Try the gps connected to usb and neither worked. My question is: how to reinstall windos ce cobia.
when I let the battery is discharged, and then connect to the pc tergeta have access to the memory sd and gps But only where the reader program maps.
Where are the windows into the gps files?

Thanks
Mariano66
Why can not I access them?


Reply author: _hedgehog
Replied on: 13 Mar 2010 08:07:10
Message:

g_alin,
thanks for the tutorial. I tried it with ROMMasterCE5 (knowing that the H610 has CE4.2 net) and an HexEditor but didn't really know where the entry points/header/etc are.
I couldn't find the Control panel to:

quote:
The "clicking sound" is when you tap on the screen? that can be removed / changed from Control panel.

But can definitely underline a better power management (American ROM stopped loading battery at 50%)
.
3 last question:
1) Do you know of any custom ROM's for the H610?
2) SDHC support: I tried it desperately (dll copy and registry changes) but had no success - do you know of any Mio H610 or Mio C210 patch for SDHC cards.
3) Those images are not working in the MS Emulator. Do you know what is necessary to get them running?
Thanks!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Mar 2010 11:26:35
Message:

mariano66,
try to insert the SDCard with unlock (http://www.4shared.com/file/235228738/f4a1b722/Cobia_300_32.html) when GPS is connected to PC. Do you see anything on the GPS screen?
Windows is not accessible from MassStorage, you need to switch to ActiveSync. But to do that you need to find out how to start an application.
But your question should be: How can I change the "\Windows"? the "\Windows" is in SMFlash (in a hided partition on the Flash). To change that you need to enter into UPGRADE SCREEN (or BLUE SCREEN). Read careful first page of this forum. Let me know the result of the experiment.

_hedgehog,
ROMasterCE5 is only for wince 5.0. For 4.2 you can find some tools on cmonex's site (hpcmonex.net).
The "clicking sound" in wince 5: Control panel \ Volume & sound \ Enable Clicks
1. I don't know any H610 custom firmware
2. http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=124298&whichpage=2 'KhaKev' I don't know if it works.
3. MS wince emulator works only with images created specially from emulator. ROM layout is different ... If I remember right is B000FF. Anyway this is not the only reason why is not going to work. The problem is that the kernel (nk.exe) is CPU dependent (you can't install even from CPUs from the same generation; for example from S3C2440 to S3C2443). the peripherals are different, pins number ... most of the time is not working.


Reply author: sethi60
Replied on: 13 Mar 2010 11:37:32
Message:

g_alin,
I am in search of the firmware for the gps moov 200 french ROM: cobia_300 v1.00.0020.
Can you use? Thank you


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 13 Mar 2010 13:58:19
Message:

MOOV200_EU N177 (ROM_V1.00.0030) http://www.4shared.com/file/219174788/96724186/Moov200_EU_ROM_V1000030.html
sethi60 this is the firmware for mio moov 200


Reply author: sethi60
Replied on: 13 Mar 2010 17:32:43
Message:

srelioskoz,
Thank you for your answer, saddened for my English, but I have already tried this firmware and my moov 200 starts with a black screen and white points, it is for that that I would like to find firmware original


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 14 Mar 2010 02:37:54
Message:

Hello, G_alin:
I tried with the gps connected to the PC, still does not read the SD card, it gives the same error.
I think the problem is found before the gps can read the targeta sd.
Got another idea?

Thank You


Reply author: deimantaszz
Replied on: 14 Mar 2010 09:13:34
Message:

On mio moov 200 I have the same black screen with white points after installed that firmware. So if somebody have moov 200 n177 it would be pretty good that you place here the smflash image, because the one that is here for mio moov 200 doesn't work.


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 14 Mar 2010 13:56:24
Message:

mariano66,

As I understood from your description - you didn't change the ROM of WinCE (upgrade, blue screen etc.) yet. Right?
If so, the problem is probably not in the WinCE itself, but in one of the applications run on the startup, which results in crashing the gwes.exe (Graphics, Windowing, and Events Subsystem).
2 questions:
1) How exactly did you install IGO8?
2) When you connect the device to PC do you see this file: Program Files\MioMap\appstartupsec.ini? It should be not on the drive of the SDCard, but on the second one - the internal flash. If yes, let me see its contents.

g_alin,
These options are alright, if you can manage to change things once the device is connected through the USB. How do you plan to run things? Upgrade the WinCE with some custom image? This is less preferrable as long as there are many types of ROMs as you know... Or do you plan to change the startup sequence without dealing with the ROM?


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 14 Mar 2010 17:45:00
Message:

Hello,Barmaley77:

It's like you say, I tried to install igo 8, everything worked fine one day but the next day the error starter!.
I reinstale from the original CD, the GPS maps program. Before, I formated the GPS memory.

The content of the file appstartupsec.ini is this:
[Process1]
RelativePath=TRUE
ProcessFile=SmartST_CE.exe
ProcessCmdLine=
ProcessDbgFile=SmartST_CEDbg.exe
ProcessDbgCmdLine=
MaxRestarts=3
Major=TRUE
WindowName=SmartST_CE
MaxCloseMessages=10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The content of the file app_startup.txt is this:

eMemory(): dwAvailPhys 0x180f000
wince_organiseMemory(): Used 0x4a2000 (1186 pages)
wince_organiseMemory(): dwTotalVirtual 33554432 0x2000000
wince_organiseMemory(): dwAvailVirtual 27000832 0x19c0000
wince_organiseMemory(): Used Virtual 6553600 0x640000 (1600 pages)
wince_organiseMemory(): Min RAM: 0x4a3000 (1187 pages)
wince_organiseMemory(): Storage Pages = 168 / 7513 (2)
wince_organiseMemory(): Ram Pages = 7345 / 7513 (97)
SetMemoryDivision(168): SetSystemMemoryDivision - memory division was changed successfully
SetBestMemoryDivision: Storage Pages = 168 / 7513 (2)
SetBestMemoryDivision: Ram Pages = 7345 / 7513 (97)
SetBestMemoryDivision: SetMemoryDivision(168) okay
wince_organiseMemory(): Took 2 milliseconds
inifile_open(): failed to open file [\Storage Card\debug.ini] in mode [rb]
inifile_open(): failed to open file [\My Flash Disk\Program Files\Navman\SmartST_CE\debug.ini] in mode [rb]
inifile_open(): failed to open file [\debug.ini] in mode [rb]
inifile_open(): failed to open file [\My Flash Disk\debug.ini] in mode [rb]
sys_getHardwareVersion(): KernelIoControl(IOCTL_HAL_READ_HW_VERSION) returned -1

*******************************************************
*
* Application Model: Cobia_300_32 (-1) WinCE: 0x500
* Application Mode: RELEASE
* Application Version 5.50.0109 2008-03-14T01:01:00
* Mapcore Version: T-core-v1_32_0024 2008/03/13-14:14:06
* Clock is invalid
* Timezone - Standard: Pacific Standard Time, 0 (Daylight: Pacific Daylight Time, -60)
*
*******************************************************

os_getUnitID(): 38 e8 a5 99 70 78 7c 11 08 00 00 02 2a c1 fc 92
Kernel: V1.00.0019
wince_getBootloaderVersionRaw(): KernelIoControl(IOCTL_MIO_SYS_GET_UBOOT_VERSION) succeeded: 4 bytes, R00
Bootloader: V0.00.0000
sys_getHardwareVersion(): KernelIoControl(IOCTL_HAL_READ_HW_VERSION) returned -1
Disk size: 0xcf46000 (207 MB)
Disk free: 0x413a000 (65 MB)
sdcard_runExecutable(SmartST_CE - Run()): CreateProcess(\Storage card\Cobia_300_32\auto.exe) failed, error 2

sorry for my bad english.and ihope you reply... and thankyou!!!!


Reply author: update
Replied on: 14 Mar 2010 20:43:02
Message:

g_alin

Thanks for your help.
At the moment I'm getting along in barmaley77 's way (COBIA410 instead of COBIA400)
If I'll manage to get my hand over another Moov 300, I'll probably contact you for help on extracting the firmware :-)

Thanx again.
Mick


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 14 Mar 2010 21:02:37
Message:

can someone help me with this?
i see that we have 2 diferend mio moov 200
one with firmware ...cobia_300_32
and one cobia_300_64
i need to know what is the number of my flash disk (ic memory)both of them.
i mean the part with name cobia inside the uplication.
i thing that mios with name cobia_...._64 had one of this

K9GAG08U0M
K9GAG08B0M
K9LBG08U1M

can some one tell me about cobia with firmware 300_32?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Mar 2010 23:48:21
Message:

mariano66,
that is not bad ... Monday I will make another unlock for you.
Is obvious that is trying to start: "\Storage card\Cobia_300_32\auto.exe"

sethi60,
Find someone from France that want to help you (to download the SMFlash).

barmaley77,
My intention is to provide a tutorial or tool to help you with that ... for now I have to change some of those firmwares to see if it work (I didn't changed anything for Moov ... only C series). The answer to your question is: I will change the firmwares; and the unlock will be integrated into firmware (and will work even when you delete/damage your My Flash Disk). I intend to do something like: someone - that what to play with his GPS - to download the SMFlash first; I will modify the firmware; give it you back and you can play with/test it (VERY IMPORTANT: all those test must be performed by someone knowledgeable in unlocking GPSs and with UPGRADE SCREEN activated!)

update, let me know when you have the SMFlash.img

srelioskoz,
Probably is something more simple ... I think is the RAM ... can someone with any Moov GPS Cobia_xxx_32 confirm or infirm that has 32M of RAM (probably will be only about 28M visible the rest of them is hided for ROM_OS).


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 00:21:25
Message:

Ok, G_alin.
I look forward the unlock who you will prepear for me!!
Thanks again


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 00:56:10
Message:

hello again g_alin!!
i think it΄s important say to you how i do for conect the pc to the gps because if i conect the pc when the gps is on it don΄t recognize i have to let turn of the gps and the i can conect to the usb in this moment it recognize the pc and i can read from the pc the content of the gps memory and sd target in this time the gps flat is black ....other question ...is important the name who the pc recognize the gps ????because when i format it recognize only like g remobable disc ...
and i think it is important to and it will give some ideas
thankyou and bye


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 09:46:50
Message:

g_alin,

I see... But I personally think this approach is cumbersome for these reasons:
1) You always will be required to participate in those "experiments", because when one downloads his SMFlash he will need you to change it for him. That's much less convenient that providing some tool so that the person himself would do that.
2) As I learned from my experience at least on some devices (like mine) the only way to get the update screen is to play with the files on the internal flash - for example replace miomap.exe, change appstartupsec.exe or something similar.
3) Once this kind of "software" unlock I described in (2) didn't work - the only way is to open the device and shorten the 9 pin. This is not so pleasant especially when you don't have your exact firmware image. And probably you will NOT have one if something went wrong in (2) because you were not able to backup your SMFLash :)

BTW, why do you think mariano66 needs some special unlock? Why shouldn't he try with the well known NavMan & Moov unlock: http://navmanunlocked.wikispaces.com/Unlock ??


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 10:13:02
Message:

i want to see what about cobia_300_32
because some people with this mio's try with pin 9
but they see black screen
maybe this applications had another pin


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 10:29:56
Message:

srelioskoz, mariano66 - I think you can cooperate to discover the cobia_300_32 thing. mariano66 has this type of device...


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 10:31:28
Message:

srelioskoz, mariano66 - I think you can cooperate to discover the cobia_300_32 thing. mariano66 has this type of device...


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 14:15:39
Message:

srelioskoz,

BTW - those people for whom this didn't work can't tell the Cobia part number? As long as they have disassembled their devices already they should see the part number immediately...


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 14:42:34
Message:

g-alin/srelioskoz

Did some firmware upgrade's on the Moov 370, works great and simple.

This to get Tmc working from a external Tmc recever.
To get it right i think i need the Moov 360 (V1000019)rom
but i think it's not existing.

So i try Moov 370 (V1000019) down to Moov 360 (V1000021).

Give after reboot a usb conection sign ,after connecting
i do see a empty flash disk with only device.xml.

Only i have not a Miomore dvd from EEU so miomap (mireo) software
reinstall was not posibble.(maybe someone have it ? then i try again)

Try to load my own WEU dvd did work, but give error on miomap (navman)software key.
then keep reboot every 60 sec with usb connection ON
or with usb connetion OFF you see only the splash screen.
after reset the usb connetion worked again and you have acces to
the flash disk.

So i did reverse the firmware upgrade and put back a copy
of my flash disk and everything is in working order again.

Looks to me that you can put every software* on the flash disk
that you like, but need to use the appstartupsec.exe and appstartupsec.ini to start it.
(* for so far the hardware is supported by the software)

Then why the Moov 330 Rom not is working on a Moov 360/370 the Hardware is diferent.

The moov 330 us a alc5622 audio amplifier (max 1.3w)
Sorry to say but the input on this amplifier is already Mono

The moov 370 use a alc5620 audio amplifier (max 1.0 w)
looks like this amplifier have a Stereo input but there is only one speaker output wired

The Moov 370 have also a Fortemedia fm1200 audio input IC that is used by Bluetooth for the microphone.







Reply author: jimi1973
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 19:01:05
Message:

hello g_alin. Can you help me with my SMFlash.img "http://www.4shared.com/file/241134443/21dc8f98/SMFlash.html"? I have moov330 from Greece.
Device model Cobia_410_EEU V1.00.0000.
Thank's.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 21:44:35
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by jimi1973

hello g_alin. Can you help me with my SMFlash.img "http://www.4shared.com/file/241134443/21dc8f98/SMFlash.html"? I have moov330 from Greece.
Device model Cobia_410_EEU V1.00.0000.
Thank's.


HALLO JIMI geia soy dimitri patrioti
if you look on first page of this topic you can found 2 more firmwares for moov 330


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 22:24:44
Message:

mariano66,
Do everything like you did when you get the other error (not the one with GWES.exe!)
try first:
http://www.4shared.com/file/241925016/4247eb36/ver_2a.html
if is not working try:
http://www.4shared.com/file/241925295/1013e4ea/ver_2b.html
This should start the software that lock or unlock UPGRADE SCREEN (read first page what to do next ... for more details).

barmaley77
1. Yes. you are right ... but for now we need to start like this ... later on we'll see if is possible to make a tool to do that.
2. I don't know the model that you tried to unlock. Let me know and we can figure out the "AUTOSTART" file used to start something from SDCard.
3. First unlock (needed to unlock the UPGRADE SCREEN) is harmless; worst case: is not going to start the UPGRADE_APP_.exe ... if from that point you start changing other files ... in My Flash Disk\ => you do it on your own risk ...
" And probably you will NOT have one if something went wrong in (2) because you were not able to backup your SMFLash :)"
As you can see on first page my recommend is:
"If you have a different firmware you need to back-up your wince. To do that, you need DiscRW utility.
If your device is unlocked and you can run applications on your PNA, try to use this DiskRW software:
http://www.4shared.com/file/134354901/9ef633/DiskRW.html"
Probably ALL other unlocks that change something to your \My Flash Disk should consider this approach.
I don't know (in 100% detail) what http://navmanunlocked.wikispaces.com/Unlock does ... so can't make a recommendation based on other's users experience.

srelioskoz,
Now I understand why you asked ... good observations ;)

kener,
good comparison ... now we know ...

jimi1973, I will come back with your winceimg.bin.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 22:32:22
Message:

K9G2G08U0M
ok this is the flash disc of cobia_300_32
but i can not find any data sheet for this part.
i want to see the pin CE
is there any one hoo can help me with this?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 22:45:26
Message:

jimi1973,
http://www.4shared.com/file/241960405/70275e3/Moov_330_Cobia_410_EEU_V100000.html
let me know if it works.

srelioskoz,
according to this site should be 256MB ftp://58.254.150.169/MPTOOLS/UT165/UT165%2520Flash%2520Support%2520List-15.pdf+K9G2G08U0M+pdf&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us" target="_blank">http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:XPE2V9NreQAJ:ftp://58.254.150.169/MPTOOLS/UT165/UT165%2520Flash%2520Support%2520List-15.pdf+K9G2G08U0M+pdf&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

from Samsung:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=672&partnum=K9G2G08U0M
also the NAND flash CODE information:
http://www.samsung.com/global/system/business/semiconductor/family/2010/1/1/Nand_Flash.pdf


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 23:28:21
Message:

thank you g_alin
i can see the last link but i can not find some thing about pin out of this flash memory
if you can find something,we need the pin with name CE


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 23:30:14
Message:

srelioskoz,
Sorry that all I found .... probably is pin 9 but not 100% sure.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 23:37:17
Message:

thank you g_alin
i see too many people with mio moov 200 have the same problem.when they try to make upgrade screen with pin 9
they see black screen.
i dont know where is the problem.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Mar 2010 23:44:35
Message:

srelioskoz,
because they don't have the same result with you ... there are many possible problems:
Probably the most probable is: because they have a different UBOOT software.
Could be also that: they need to 'change' a little your instructions ... maybe to make a short connect when the GPS power on from RESET to release the pin9 .... or I don't know. Probably if you had one device to play with this IC ... you'll had better chances to find why the Moov200 is not working with this procedure.
So the only option I see is to talk to someone that have this problem over PM (messenger) and try to find what you have to change in order to make that GPS enter into BOOT SCREEN from pin9 (/C/E).


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 16 Mar 2010 00:03:42
Message:

ok tomorow i will take one mio moov 200 from a friend and i will see about this problem.


Reply author: jimi1973
Replied on: 16 Mar 2010 01:26:59
Message:

g_alin Thank's!!!
Rom work.

Geia soy file srelioskoz.
dokimasa kai tis 2 roms kai doylepsan. To mono problima einai pos den mporousa na trexo to miomap 2008.


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 16 Mar 2010 16:08:02
Message:

Hello G_alin:

I ran all the tests as agreed, has no access auto.exe to unlock the boot. The gps made the mistake of always.
Any other ideas? ....... please!!

Thankyou


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Mar 2010 18:15:59
Message:

mariano66,
unfortunately I don't have any ideas ... probably your only option is to try the NAVMAN unlocking type (http://navmanunlocked.wikispaces.com/Unlock). Maybe srelioskoz will find how to use 'pin 9' unlock for Moov200.


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 16 Mar 2010 21:20:52
Message:

Hello G_alin and srelioskoz,
I used the "NAVMAN unlocking type" it recognized the gps it ran it unlocked the gps but when i on appeared the error again.
Respect to the pin 9, i maked all the steps from youtube i did it and my flat become black like other people
I acept all ideas because i think it΄s died byen and thankyou!!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 16 Mar 2010 21:57:53
Message:

mariano.
do you mean that your mio not work any more?
or it start and then you have orange screen?


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 01:20:59
Message:

Hello srelioskoz

works!, but continues to make the same mistake!
never It boot normally
it always make the same, the flat stay orange with the error message, and you can΄t do anything
thankyou


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 03:14:41
Message:

mariano66,
try this one:
1. copy this GWES.exe file to your \My Flash Disk\ (is from Mio C320)
http://www.4shared.com/file/242793276/4ec08dfe/gwes.html
2. use this unlock (changed the NAVMAN unlock ... )
http://www.4shared.com/file/242794704/74938047/temp_for_mariano66.html
Let me know if you have that error again.


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 11:13:16
Message:

g_alin,

My device is Mio MOOV 300 Cobia_400_64 (was before the upgrade I made with your help).
About the auto.exe - as I said, it starts from the Cobia_4x0_64 folder (currently x=1) on SD Card, but only AFTER the process specified in appstartupsec.ini is terminated. On the original device it's miomap.exe and this process normally never finishes... So you need to mess with the contents of the internal flash disk like I did... For example, change the appstartupsec.ini to run another process (not miomap.exe)


Reply author: barmaley77
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 12:04:58
Message:

mariano66,

If the steps suggested by a_alin will not work you can try the following, BUT THIS IS RISKY!!! (I managed to salvage my device this way, BUT BE CAREFUL!)
1) Connect the device to PC through USB and BACKUP all the contents of your internal flash disk.
2) Download this: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RU8SSM1B
3) Extract the CECMD.exe from Apps folder in the archive and copy it to the folder where the appstartupsec.ini file is on your device.
4) Change (by NOTEPAD) this line: "ProcessFile=SmartST_CE.exe" in the appstartupsec.ini on your device to this: "ProcessFile=CECMD.exe", save the file.
5) Disconnect the device from the USB and reset it.

Hopefully the file manager will start and you'll be able to correct things.

DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK AS LONG AS THIS PROCEDURE IS DANGEROUS!!!


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 19:03:08
Message:

Hey!
I have A C710, which got stuck at the language selection. Upgraded the firmware using the guides on the first post. BUT! after step 10 was finished, I swiched the ON-OFF switch to OFF, disconnected the cable and step 13 says:
"13. Power up device (press more than 12 sec. power button)" - I assumed this ment that "Switch the ON-OFF switch back to ON" since nothing happens (obviously) if the machine is on turned off. So I did that, the C710 boots, but does not ask to connect the USB cable, but goes to the screen calibrate-screen and stays there.. the cross goes through all the corners but then the calibration starts all over again and so on.

Any thoughts here?

Also, tried following the guide to the point, but had to do differ some to make this happen:

1. download galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip and winceimg.zip
*CHECK*
2. unzip those archives
*CHECK*
3. to enter into the blue screen on the C310, C510 and C710, you must do the following.
- Set the ON/OFF-switch to OFF. (located at the right bottom.
- While pushing the sound-minus-button and the screen-on-off-button at the right site of the device, set the ON/OFF-switch to ON.
- Keep pushing the other 2 buttons until you get the blue screen.
- to scroll over the items in the blue screen, push the sound-plus-button.
- to select an item, push the sound-min-button.
*CHECK*
4. connect GPS to PC (using an USB cable)
*CHECK*
5. a new hardware will be found ... you should choose "Advanced ..." and point the PC to install driver from folder galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip\PC\SEC_SOC_driver (alternatively if complains that "there is no compatible driver" you can try also galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip\PC\SEC_SOC_driver_other)

*OOPS, nothing happened, my PC didn't find the device. Then I realized that I needed to navigate to "Upgrade WINCE" on the GPS. After I started the Upgrade WINCE in the blue screen, the computer found the GPS and I was able to install the drivers.*

6. After install you should see on display that GPS received an USB address .. or something like that ...
If it didn't received an address there are two possible problems:
- You where to slow (that menu has a time out) -> Disconnect your GPS from USB and go to
step 4.
- Your USB is not 100% compatible -> Use a USB hub (try 1.1 first and 2.0 after)
*CHECK*
7. start DNW.exe from galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip\PC\DNW
*CHECK*
8. Check if on the form blue upper side there is written "USB : OK" ... that will show you that DNW is connected to GPS
*CHECK*
9. Go to menu USB Transmit \ Transmit \ Transmit ... select winceimg.bin extracted from winceimg.zip (downloaded previously)
*CHECK*
10. WAIT ... the procedure will last about 1 min. check the GPS screen and after you see restart wait for another minute (to be sure that upgrade finished).
*CHECK*
11. Power OFF the GPS

*If I understood correctly, this ment to place the ON-OFF switch to OFF, so I did that.*

12. Disconnect USB cable from PC
*CHECK*
13. Power up device (press more than 12 sec. power button)

*Tried pressing the power button for more than 12sec, but nothing happened. So I placed the ON-OFF-switch back to ON, and..."

14. Now you should see a window that ask you to connect the GPS to PC. Insert the recovery CD and perform the GPS recovery.

*No such window.. only the MIO boot-screen and then an endless game of "follow the cross"..*

Help plz-


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 20:07:30
Message:

barmaley77,
that is not a good news ... i don't know ...

miojaypee,
thank you for your feedback ... your problem is the touch screen calibration program: Use a small pointer (like a stylus) and repeat the procedure until that screen will close ... (it has a error detection, so you need to use something small enough - don't use your finger, is not going to work).


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 20:31:00
Message:

...I'm running out of faith here.. gone through the rocedure (center - lower-left - lower-right - upper-right - upper-left) with a very accurate stylus-pen for 55 times now....


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 20:32:27
Message:

miojaypee,
Probably is enough ...
Did you upgrade with (Format) of the My Flash Disk or without (Format)?


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 20:41:00
Message:

I took the option "3=WINCE by USB(format)"


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 20:42:53
Message:

miojaypee,
Do you have a backup to your \My Flash Disk\ (done before bricking your device)?


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 20:46:36
Message:

No, couldn't make one since this unit was already a brick :) . Was hoping that upgrading firmware could un-brick it ...


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 20:51:47
Message:

(If I remember right) C710 has an option to enter into wince (press menu + Vol+ while you move RESET slide). http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=76238
Can you enter into wince?


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 20:59:50
Message:

negative. I can only enter the blue screen menu and the calibration screen


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 21:01:13
Message:

when you connect the GPS to PC do you have connection (massstorage or activesync)?


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 21:12:45
Message:

My PC (device manager) recognizes the device as a "Windows powered pocket PC 2003" but activesync can't connect to it.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 21:20:13
Message:

Your windows driver is not 'the right one'.
update actual driver with the right driver (from WINCE by USB upgrade your PC is using that device ... you need to delete that and let windows to 'acquire' from MS the right driver) - to be able to see it like a activesync device. After that you have to check if you can access the My Flash Disk. My opinion is that your My Flash Disk is not accessible from wince (the pointer is trying to save the calibration data there ... and if is not accessible may have this unpredicted behavior). Try to use a WINCE by SD (format) maybe that will work.


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 21:36:02
Message:

can't find a better driver.. I went to device manager, clicked on properties->driver->remove driver, then tried searching for a new driver, but no help.
would I need to create a special SD to perform WINCE upgrade from SD?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 21:37:45
Message:

one 128M to 1G sdcard formatted FAT16 with 2 files on it: winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 22:04:47
Message:

which .bin and .cks files should I use? I have the C710_ENG_EUR (R33F.2.112.517) http://www.4shared.com/file/129467139/ce16f8a2/C710_ENG_ROM_R33F2112517.html .bin (which I tried to install last time) but where can I find the .cks?

Also, just to make sure, will 2G SD card do?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 22:59:31
Message:

I didn't know that the zip doesn't have the cks file:
http://www.4shared.com/file/243375100/4d19a84a/C710_ENG_R33F2112517.html
You can try ... no harm to try. If is unable to mount the SDCard you'll have to use a smaller one.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 17 Mar 2010 23:44:17
Message:

hallo
i tryed a moov 200.
i tryed all pins but no solution.
moov 200 have another flash disk.
Alin can you make this ?
http://www.4shared.com/file/243396469/c9d1640c/cobia300V1000019.html
cobia_300_32


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Mar 2010 00:04:29
Message:

srelioskoz,
http://www.4shared.com/file/243403980/19dc08e/Moov_200_Cobia_300_32_EEU_V100.html


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 18 Mar 2010 01:03:59
Message:

thank you Alin . firmware works ok.
after mio 200 pin serching ,i have this problem
it work ok but when i try to make a sortcut, it create it but with 0 bytes
it can see storage card but it not recognise the file cobia_300_32 or 2577.
if i go to storage card /cobia_300_32 / and run auto.exe it works ok.
but i dont know y it can not start this file by it self when i start up it
this file is like before in storage card.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Mar 2010 01:10:52
Message:

srelioskoz,
for shortcuts use this method: http://navmanunlocked.wikispaces.com/Shortcuts
Probably Moov200 doesn't have the support (in coredll) to create shortcuts ...


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 18 Mar 2010 01:37:13
Message:

thank you Alin.
very usefull info. :)


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 18 Mar 2010 09:55:23
Message:

g_alin
I did succesfully update WINCE by SD (format), but the device is behaving exactly the same (stuck in the calibration, no activesync recognation and no accessing WINCE by ON+menu+vol+). Do you think there's another firmware I could try since this one obviously doesn't work for me?

EDIT: I managed to write down the previous version since the device could boot, but got stuck soon after earlier: OSCAR220AEEUR34F , tried searching with that but no luck.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Mar 2010 20:34:09
Message:

miojaypee,
I think I know why you have problems .... you have a hardware problem.
Cx10 series has a problem with the touch screen sensor ...
The problem is that some dirt is on the edge of the GPS, between touch screen sensor and the GPS case; and because of that the sensor is (falsely) trigger be this. to fix that you need to insert something thin between touch screen and case (all over the edges) ... after you made this thin 'gap' between touch screen sensor and case ... your gps should be fixed.
What do you need:
1. something thin (thinner than a credit card or phone card) but strong enough to be pushed between case and touch screen. Preferably a little wide (1'' to 2'' - 3cm to 5 cm).
2. turn of your GPS
3. place that (almost in parallel with screen) and pus it slower (inside the GPS) between touch screen and case.
4. do that all over the edges (up, down , left and right)
5. start the GPS and try to calibrate again the touch screen (using a stylus) - try ten times ... if doesn't work ... is not this problem.
Let me know the result.


Reply author: miojaypee
Replied on: 18 Mar 2010 23:18:28
Message:

g_alin, thanks for your help so far. I tried you'r method - didn't work, so (in the name of science) I took apart the whole unit. Turns out the digitizer/touch pad was broken (or at least it is now :D )I might order a new one and hopefully get the thing up and running again.

EDIT: FYI, the touch screen WILL appear to be working (the calibration screen will react to touch) even if there are two out of four leads broken from the digitizer..


Reply author: navnav2009
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 17:07:06
Message:

g_alin you have any ideea why the mio moov 300 with flash samsung K9G4G08U0A don't start in upgrade screen(blue screen) with pin 9 and gnd?when i do pin 9 and gnd nothing happens.the device don't start at all.i try all the combination possible and still no result.My device has that error(appstartupsec.exe has performed illegal...etc) on it and the pc don't recognize the device.thank you!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 20:05:47
Message:

nav nav
look at this link .maybe it will be usefull.
http://wiki.s1mp3.org/Temp:Dead_recovery_guide
it is for another application.but this aplications had samsung flash disk
this is the link about your flash disk data sheet
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/K9G4G08U0A-datasheet.html


Reply author: navnav2009
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 20:21:28
Message:

in datasheet for my flashdisk i c that pin 9 is for CE.but not starting with gnd.i try in many ways.i short pin 9 with gnd when the device start and it freeze.if i try like in video on youtube nothing happens.is not starting at all.it must be a way to put this gps in upgrade screen,but so far nothing,i think i'll give up.:((


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 20:40:32
Message:

no i think that the short with pin 9 is not work on mios like yours
try something else.disconnect the batery and then put the power button to on.
then make the short with pin 9 and connect the usb.

i made this video and the application was mio moov 360
it was with another flash disk


Reply author: navnav2009
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 20:55:40
Message:

i did like that right now.the devide don't start not even normaly with no battery.so the battery must be connected.you have some other ideea please?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 21:01:20
Message:

http://wiki.s1mp3.org/Temp:Dead_recovery_guide
on this link say to make short between 0.I pins
look on your data sheet and find this pins.then make a try


Reply author: navnav2009
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 21:13:26
Message:

still no succes.this device has a jtag connector?


Reply author: navnav2009
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 21:24:47
Message:

btw http://satnavrepairservice.com/ these guys told me that it will take me 28 euros for repair.i told them what is the problem and they told me that it can be done,i don't know how but it can be done.i think i'll ship it there to solve it?but i keep thinking how they will resolve it.that's why i ask if this device has a jtag connector or something.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 21:36:05
Message:

yes it has a jtag connector


Reply author: navnav2009
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 21:43:02
Message:

so probably the guys from service will restore it with jtag....well i have no other option..thank you very much for your help.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 20 Mar 2010 21:45:16
Message:

ok have a nice day


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 21 Mar 2010 11:29:13
Message:

For problems with a Empty Flash disk and not have a restore or reinstall possibility on MIO Moov 360/370/500/580/S505/V505.

I Found this strange shell that could solve the Problem
to get a working startup of the Moov device.

Edit by Moderator - link contains pirated software, deleted/

Sorry but it's only another unlock methode for the device's, there is No gps software inside.
So it do the same like Miopocket.

Maybe it's alright if i give a rapidshare link ?


Reply author: miolover
Replied on: 21 Mar 2010 12:08:55
Message:

kener: thanks so much for the link. i have not finished reading the posts but i am soo excited to read about them. it is obvious the moov series was programmed using xml/linux(?). it explains why it needs extra tweaking for it to work using mortscript that MP used to unlock.

i love learning from programs posts in here. amazing how you guys don't get paid to do what you do here or other forums.

i hope hellrayser, the unlock author shares his "source" files though. I for one discovered an xml file/code to unlock serial codes in ppc games. anyone care to share/explain the basic source file of xml? and its unlocking power and capability. hopefully someone will make/release universal xml unlock for gps just like mortscript powered miopocket.


Reply author: MontrealPaul
Replied on: 21 Mar 2010 15:04:48
Message:

Hi, g alin

I have just read through the first of this 41 page (at this time) thread.

Your initial post is very interesting and looks promising, but before I go too far (as in spend the next few hours reading the other 40 pages), I want to see if it applies to me.

I am in Canada, and I have a Magellan Maestro 3210 (same model # in the US). You make references to models I don't recognize. Are those European models, or are they generic numbers? If the latter, to which does the Magellan Maestro 3210 correspond?

For now, I'm tinkering with the DiskRW program. I can select the flash from the source drop-down, but when I click the [...] beside Output, nothing happens. Should I be on the "Read/Write" tab? I've also played with the "Raw2Raw" tab, with mixed results.

Thanks, g_alin, for what looks like a lot of effort!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 22 Mar 2010 18:29:23
Message:

MontrealPaul,
we are talking about Moov_yyy series and C_xxx Series ... and you have a Magellan Maestro 3210. I don't think that you can make a correspondence between them.
There are EUropean models, but also AUStralinan, or other countries/continents.
If the "..." is not working there is a missing component in your wince. (Alternatively) You can write (using any keyboard) the path (corresponding to your device): For example on C series is "\Storage Card\" (without '"'). Press "Read" ... and wait until you get a confirmation message box. On the SDCard you'll find a SMFlash_........img. This is the backup procedure. If you have more questions please let me know.


Reply author: MontrealPaul
Replied on: 22 Mar 2010 18:41:22
Message:

Thanks, g_alin. Too bad it doesn't apply to my model, because yours is the most comprehensive set of info I've seen to date! I wish we had something like this for my series!

I may still peruse the thread, when I have the time, because I may pick up a pointer or two, such as the backup technique. I've been debating using a firmware re-flashing (process described by tskitishvili)and hopefully this will enable me to return the flash to its original state if things don't work out.

For the backup program's [...] issue you mention, here and in your original post, to enter something "using a keyboard"... I assume you mean a soft keyboard? I currently have no such thing... I am using FileManCE and SoftButton, neither of which offer, AFAIK, a way to key in information. Is there a "soft keyboard", or a way to enter this info somewhere and cut/paste it, or something? Maybe I just don't understand...

Thanks!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 22 Mar 2010 20:36:48
Message:

MontrealPaul,
Yes, a soft keyboard. Try to start this soft keyboard before starting DISKRW.
http://www.4shared.com/file/246962177/cf28b6e6/Script.html
you'll find some soft keyboards like: JOTKBD.EXE, Keyb.exe and others ... try them to see if are working (I can't recommend you one because are working (or not) based on the components installed on your wince).


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 22 Mar 2010 21:27:27
Message:

hi
Alin i made to see blue screen on moov 200
i made it 2 times but i don't rememper how i made it.
first i take a multimeter from all pins
then i use your program to made the blue screen ,and with the multimiter i show what is the difference between first and second time
i found that when mio is on upgrade mode,pin 14 has (3,2 volt) like vcc pin 12
then i made a short between 12 and 14 pin,and then i made the short with pin 9 and gnd
and it works .but i dont rememper all the procces.
one time mio make format the flash disk by it self.
but i dont rememper the procces :(
but i am keep trying


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 22 Mar 2010 21:38:41
Message:

srelioskoz,
Try not to damage (to many) GPSs ... :) but that is a good finding ...
pin 14 need to have 3.3V ... we need a volunteer (with a bricked GPS) that want to try? (some electrical / electronic knowledge are needed). If I understood right short pin14 to pin16; start the GPS and (hopefully) you'll see the blue screen!? srelioskoz can you confirm if this was your (preliminary) possible way to enter in BLUE SCREEN? Anyway srelioskoz maybe you should take it slowly ... not to damage the GPS ... try tomorrow again (after a good night sleep ;) )


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 22 Mar 2010 21:47:19
Message:

before i make the connections,i see first the data sheet.
i have some knowlege of electronics.
i thing it need 2 shorts but not at the same time.
still i am try to fount it
and i thing i will made it before burn it :)


ok i stop with this i agree with you
we need a volunteer (with a bricked GPS) that want to try?
this mio is ok :)


Reply author: MontrealPaul
Replied on: 23 Mar 2010 03:24:56
Message:

Hi, g_alin

There looks like a lot of stuff in that package, and I look forward to exploring it... As far as keyboards are concerned, Keyb gave a "WinCE" error message (I'm using FileManCE), and JotKBD simply locked up my unit. I didn't see any others, based on their names, but anyway this gives me a right direction to explore...

Thanks for your help!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Mar 2010 17:36:16
Message:

MontrealPaul,
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=114786
take a look ... maybe you have the same problem.


Reply author: MontrealPaul
Replied on: 23 Mar 2010 18:16:00
Message:

Thanks, g_alin, I'll bookmark that in case I have problems later.
I think that what I need to do is to get WinCE installed, and I'll go from there. Currently, all I have is FilemanCE and SoftButton. I've been picking little bits and pieces here and there, and I think WinCE is the next bit I need to add.
I may or may not have time to do that tonight (getting back late), but am looking forwarding to trying it out... I got a copy here:http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=114710


Reply author: massimi
Replied on: 29 Mar 2010 15:05:04
Message:

hi g_alin
can we found the firmware of mio moov 150?

quote:
srelioskoz,
If someone is going to upload the SMFlash.img I will extract the winceimg.bin ... (personally, I don't have this SMFlash.img :( )

where can it take(SMFlash.img)? I have the original DVD but with him I can not restore your navigator. gives an error.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 Mar 2010 18:40:18
Message:

massimi,
You need to download (using DISKRW) the SMFlash.img from one GPS Moov150.
(according to the forum's rules: is not aloud to exchange information from DC/DVD without Mitac's consent ...)


Reply author: qpcxd
Replied on: 04 Apr 2010 16:15:30
Message:

I have upated my rom to C520. My original rom is C320 chinese edtion. Now I want to restore my rom to C320 CHS,how can I do? I only have a backup .img file from DiskRW. I need your help. Sorry for my poor English!
THANK U! Expecting your help!
qpcxd


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 04 Apr 2010 20:57:09
Message:

qpcxd,
Upload the SMFlash.img file ... and I will extract the firmware.


Reply author: qpcxd
Replied on: 05 Apr 2010 03:08:33
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

qpcxd,
Upload the SMFlash.img file ... and I will extract the firmware.



http://u.115.com/file/f66ac47939
SMFlash_0_C320VW_CHS.rar

Thank u!


Reply author: massimi
Replied on: 05 Apr 2010 12:24:37
Message:

Hello g_alin!

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

massimi,
You need to download (using DISKRW) the SMFlash.img from one GPS Moov150.

Hello g_alin! So I took what you asked. I hope that was good.
http://rapidshare.com/files/372219215/miomoov150.rar.html


Reply author: project037
Replied on: 05 Apr 2010 14:19:50
Message:

Hello!
My moov 200 n206 is dead so I tried to update firmware, but there is no firmware for that model.
I sow that you have firmware for many mio devices, but there is no firmware for mio moov 200 n206 (I have open device and on samsung chip, on withe paper is written "cobia 300R2" ). So does maybe someone have firmware for this particular model, or can extract firmware from this exact model because mine is useless now.
I have tried to put firmware for n177 and "cobia_300_32" but it wont update. Update starts and make fault(error) "wrong image format", or it says wrong region.

Thanks in advance!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 05 Apr 2010 19:29:36
Message:

massimi,
SMflash was the right file.
here is the firmware:
http://www.4shared.com/file/257616884/78a132a4/Moov_150_Cobia_300L_32_EU_V100.html
let me know if is working ... ;)

qpcxd,
http://www.4shared.com/file/258646102/6862d98f/C320_CHS_ROM_R02399640511.html
let me know if is working ... ;

project037,
consider the option to find (locally) one identical device and download the SMFlash your self.

PS: don't forget to confirm; if the firmwares are working ...


Reply author: qpcxd
Replied on: 10 Apr 2010 07:54:31
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

massimi,
SMflash was the right file.
here is the firmware:
http://www.4shared.com/file/257616884/78a132a4/Moov_150_Cobia_300L_32_EU_V100.html
let me know if is working ... ;)

qpcxd,
http://www.4shared.com/file/258646102/6862d98f/C320_CHS_ROM_R02399640511.html
let me know if is working ... ;

project037,
consider the option to find (locally) one identical device and download the SMFlash your self.

PS: don't forget to confirm; if the firmwares are working ...



MY FRIND, THANK U SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP! I HAVE DONE THE recovery! ITS OK NOW!


Reply author: drumcio
Replied on: 10 Apr 2010 08:22:55
Message:

Hello g-alin,
I read about your help to khaos2002 with MIO Moov 500. I have same problem as he did. I flashed EU_ROM_T550R2.V1.00.0003 and I have no sound. Could you please help me with it? Sorry for my english ;]
Best regards,
drumcio


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Apr 2010 21:26:21
Message:

qpcxd,
welcome.

drumcio,
can you give me the link where I helped khaos2002?
Also give me the Region of your device. (Model is probably MIO Moov 500).


Reply author: DFMorais
Replied on: 15 Apr 2010 00:39:43
Message:

GALIN

My GPS does not care, more if I put the card there appears a blue screen, oh when I put in the card files WinCEimag.cks. Bin and go into CE Base Upgrade / base by sd, it loads 100% progress, it appears more message, "size error"
I hope you help me, thank you ever since.
My English a little rusty, I'm from Brazil.
My GPS is a NAVMAN F25
And in the blue screen so ta "cobia400r2_r06_0424 RAM64 MLC 1G" And in the blue screen, ta "cobia400r2_r06_0424 RAM64 MLC 1G"
Certainly it is an inta cobia400 if the moov 300? It's certainly an inta cobia400 a moov 300?

I would you a correct firmware for my player that ... ?


Reply author: DFMorais
Replied on: 20 Apr 2010 13:09:10
Message:

G_alin
The question I asked up there, now I'm detailing my unit and waiting for your reply.
cobia400r2_r06_0424 RAM64 MLC 1G

0 = Base Region EC & Upgrade
1 = GPS tools
2 = bt TOOLS
3 = basic ce upgrade
4 = UBoot UPGRADE
5 = MEMORY TOOLS
6 = OTHER TOOLS
CHOICE: 0


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 Apr 2010 18:29:48
Message:

DFMorais,
I don't know the NAVMAN F25 ROM format ...
I don't know any cobia400r2 ... all Moov 3x0 series are cobia400.
If you can download the SMFlash.img from one GPS (identical with yours) same Model and same Region I can try to take a look at the ROM ... but the ROM may be very different then what I know ... so don't hope too much ...


Reply author: Megaduck99
Replied on: 22 Apr 2010 04:37:35
Message:

Hi,

Does anyone have a ROM image that I can use to resurrect my Australian Moov 370?

The Moov 370 Rom link in the opening post is invalid (Page not found)

Also will it matter if I load European firmware on my Australian Moov 370? I will only be using it 'unlocked'.

Megaduck99


Reply author: DFMorais
Replied on: 23 Apr 2010 00:16:23
Message:

G_alin,

How do I extract this SMflash.img. or even the. cks and. bin


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Apr 2010 01:14:34
Message:

DFMorais,
The SMFlash can be downloaded using DiskRW.
winceimg (.cks and .bin) you have to cut some parts of the SMFlash and place it together an a specific format.
I'have read your message (on 4shared) ... You have to find a device identical with yours and download the SMFlash ... there is no other option ...

Megaduck99,
Moov 370 Rom link was updated (on first page). You may loose the ability to run the original navigation software (in ROM is stored also the Region ...)


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 23 Apr 2010 17:39:21
Message:

How to write firmware in mio spirit V505, i can't conect to pc, no boot from SD, is stuck in mio logo...


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 23 Apr 2010 18:41:42
Message:

Hello

i have an Moov 360(M179) - European: Cobia_420_64 it was doesnt working well so tried to upgrade firmware from here
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off then on
it was started well but doesnt finshed said not enough memory so i went to the other options and found a format option
now doesnt wanna turn on and the bluescreen doesnt came up also
any fix for this?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 23 Apr 2010 19:30:28
Message:

marciport before you start up your mio push inside the sd card first


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 24 Apr 2010 00:34:08
Message:

my sd card is inside i tried with it and without doesnt turn on, on normal mode and doesnt turn on at bluescreen mode. do i have to take something specific on the sd?(i have the firmware upgrader on it right now)


Reply author: Megaduck99
Replied on: 24 Apr 2010 07:22:00
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin
Megaduck99,
Moov 370 Rom link was updated (on first page). You may loose the ability to run the original navigation software (in ROM is stored also the Region ...)



Thanks, I knew that, but at the time I posted the link was broken...Works now...

Megaduck99

Edit: Works perfectly as does the Australian Software!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 24 Apr 2010 09:58:09
Message:

marciport
i think that you have 2 solutions
1 give your mio for service
2 jtag solution....but it is very difficult (maybe g_alin can give you more help)


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 24 Apr 2010 13:48:42
Message:

G_alin

my problem i had posted before
(Hello i have an Moov 360(M179) - European: Cobia_420_64 it was doesnt working well so tried to upgrade firmware from here
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off then on
it was started well but doesnt finshed said not enough memory so i went to the other options and found a format option
now doesnt wanna turn on and the bluescreen doesnt came up also
my sd card is inside i tried with it and without doesnt turn on, on normal mode and doesnt turn on at bluescreen mode. do i have to take something specific on the sd?(i have the firmware upgrader on it right now))

do u have any solution for
srelioskoz said jtag is a solution but idont know where can i found softwares and some kind a tutorial for this
thank u


Reply author: marsele
Replied on: 25 Apr 2010 23:04:11
Message:

hello, I have a mio moov 200 and I have tried everything to fix it! The problem is that I can't conect to pc anymore, there is no boot from SD and it is stuck in mio logo. What should I do please someone help me!!!


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 26 Apr 2010 21:05:08
Message:

marsele
read this topic.
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=134550


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 26 Apr 2010 23:39:42
Message:

marciport,
did you tried the "short pins" method discovered by srelioskoz? The JTAG ... is really a hard one ... if you don't have strong electronics knowledge a strongly recommend you to send the device to MIO for servicing.


Reply author: DFMorais
Replied on: 26 Apr 2010 23:51:55
Message:

Before my gps off, I had made Bakpia ddo that was in memory of gps, it comes as something for my case now?


Reply author: daliokas
Replied on: 27 Apr 2010 12:44:28
Message:

hi to all
i have mio moov 330 and run miopocket 3.0
I want to install and run GpsMeter software how can I do it?
Thanks for answers


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 27 Apr 2010 14:40:57
Message:

G_alin

i know somebody whos programing memorys i just need the flies i think he gonna know what to do with them
Moov 360(M179) - European: Cobia_420_64
please linke me files if its possible i downloaded http://just4you.springnote.com/pages/1052614?print=1 these things already and the rom file from this topic MOOV360_EU (ROM_V1.00.0021) http://www.4shared.com/file/194369290/8e042cc8/MOOV360_EU_ROM_V1000021.html
and mio_moov_360_image.rar thats have inside SMFlash_0_26214400(with upgrade blue screen).img
do i need anything else?

thank u



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Apr 2010 19:08:31
Message:

http://www.4shared.com/file/JAIsslVX/RecoverMioCX20.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/jb3lLCDg/MIO_x20_Jtag.html

You should know that this package is for C series (so the patched bootpach.bin IS NOT WORKING ...).
You should try to change the setting of the "unlock UT" (to have access to blue screen).
To do that change (at address 101000h):
"LOCKEDUT"
with:
"UNLOCKED"
After that; if you have access to blue screen; you need to perform an upgrade (with FORMAT) ... and all your My Flash Disk will be deleted...
You can try to upload all firmware through JTAG ... but will take 2 days ... and I think your problem is in My Flash Disk ... so uploading the firmware again (without format of the My flash disk) is not going to help you at all! ... but some more info .. if you what to try:
You have to check (in the SMFlash.img) where you have to load all the firmware parts:
- Settings
- HEADER
- XIPKERNEL
- CHAIN
- XIP
http://www.4shared.com/file/HIr84Sik/resource_marciport.html

DFMorais,
You have to find the SMFlash for your device type ... only ater that we can try to help you ... If you device doesn't start, there is not much you can do software ... probably shorting the pins from memory chip is going to help you to gain access to blue screen.


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 28 Apr 2010 00:12:45
Message:

G_alin thank u for your help we gonna try with these thing


Reply author: marsele
Replied on: 29 Apr 2010 19:01:23
Message:

Hi srelioskoz !I done that allready and nothing is going on! I read the topic and I did everything!! My mio moov 200 is freezing at mio logo! Any other idea to fix it??? Please help me!!!


Reply author: skarfac3
Replied on: 29 Apr 2010 22:00:11
Message:

Hello! i have an mio C220 of a friend he tried to upload maps on it and he "brick" it.What does it do ....i press power and the hourglass if turning and turning at infinity,nothing else.i tried the mio transfer c 250 for couple of sec it appears the flash and the sd active(colored).i tried the solution of i_dido nothing happend . also the solution of g_alin i tried it but i`m sure that i didn`t do it correct. i didn`t found this 2 - galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip and winceimg.zip.Anyway ...somebody can help me,guide me to repair it. Thanks in advance.


Reply author: chubi89
Replied on: 08 May 2010 13:26:07
Message:

hi i would like to know that the tip first put the sd card in to mio
"
1)put the power button to RESET position
2)carefully connect the wire as you see on the picture http://www.4shared.com/file/192360271/79584b60/moov330pcbback1.html
3)put the power button to ON position
4)you will see the blue screen
5)take the wire from the connect
6)if you want the normal screen put again the power swich to RESET position
7)if you want to make a selection when you have blue screen, touch on screen and then put the power buton to OFF and then ON position
8)DO NOT MAKE FORMAT SELECTION IF YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHIT FIRMWARE
"
works with mio moov 200 ?


Reply author: basith9381
Replied on: 09 May 2010 12:24:43
Message:

Helloo,
great forum, great members
help me pleeeeeeeeease,
I have mio moov 200, me done a big foolishness that I edited the file 'PATHS.XML', now it stucks on the orange screen and can't connect the device to pc anymore, also tried to connect a wire from pin no.9 of flash ic and to ground, no success. I can see only a black screen.
help me please help me please help me please


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 09 May 2010 20:43:01
Message:

the solution with pin 9 and gnd is not work for moov 200
i am sorry


Reply author: basith9381
Replied on: 10 May 2010 00:29:55
Message:

any other solution?


Reply author: Preco
Replied on: 10 May 2010 22:24:52
Message:

Searching for recover Mio Moov M300, Jtag shematic and flash. This doesent have sd card slot. And blue screen upgrade dont work with pin 9 to GND.
Any solution ?!?


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 13 May 2010 23:29:45
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

http://www.4shared.com/file/JAIsslVX/RecoverMioCX20.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/jb3lLCDg/MIO_x20_Jtag.html

You should know that this package is for C series (so the patched bootpach.bin IS NOT WORKING ...).
You should try to change the setting of the "unlock UT" (to have access to blue screen).
To do that change (at address 101000h):
"LOCKEDUT"
with:
"UNLOCKED"
After that; if you have access to blue screen; you need to perform an upgrade (with FORMAT) ... and all your My Flash Disk will be deleted...
You can try to upload all firmware through JTAG ... but will take 2 days ... and I think your problem is in My Flash Disk ... so uploading the firmware again (without format of the My flash disk) is not going to help you at all! ... but some more info .. if you what to try:
You have to check (in the SMFlash.img) where you have to load all the firmware parts:
- Settings
- HEADER
- XIPKERNEL
- CHAIN
- XIP
http://www.4shared.com/file/HIr84Sik/resource_marciport.html

DFMorais,
You have to find the SMFlash for your device type ... only ater that we can try to help you ... If you device doesn't start, there is not much you can do software ... probably shorting the pins from memory chip is going to help you to gain access to blue screen.



Hi! I try this in my mio C220 conect ok, but i cant get blue screen. Pls help! My processor in 2SC2440...


Reply author: dogsz4life
Replied on: 15 May 2010 09:50:06
Message:

Dear g_alin,
I have several navman's s50 3d (I believe that they are same as mio moov 330) with fatal gwes.exe error. I used a DiskRW on a working deveice to crate an image of the navman flash. Now, all I need is to convert that image to winceimg.bin file. Because when I try to update wince on that not working Navman, I get an error that "file is too big to download." I believe this file have to be converted in some way.. Could you please help me..? :) my DiskRW image is: http://www.4shared.com/file/S8zHyk0H/SMFlash_0_26214400.html Thank's in advance!


Reply author: pnugroho
Replied on: 15 May 2010 19:38:28
Message:

i'm using Mio C230. i'm not sure what region.
i messed up with appstartupsec and now i need to reflash it again using C230 winceimg.bin (through the blue screen's WINCE upgrade)...
please help me if anyone have winceimg.* for C230...
thanks in advance.


Reply author: pnugroho
Replied on: 17 May 2010 09:02:42
Message:

g_alin,

I've managed to get SMflash from good Mio C230.
could you please extract winceimg.bin & winceimg.cks, please?
I need to upload them to my bricked Mio C230 via SD/MMC (through blue screen's WINCE upgrade)

Here's the SMFlash file http://www.4shared.com/file/iDADPMbM/SMFlash_0_36700160.html

thanks in advance.


Reply author: pnugroho
Replied on: 17 May 2010 16:39:12
Message:

nevermind.. please disregard my previous email.
after playing around a bit with RomMasterCE 1.9.9, i've been able to produce winceimg from the SMflash file, and reflashing it back.
Now my Mio C230 back to life again from comma.

Anyway, thanks for the enlightenment throughout this forum threads.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 May 2010 22:27:51
Message:

basith9381,
for Moov200 we don't have a solution.

Preco,
sorry, we don't have any info about M series (without SDCard)

pnugroho,
I want to congratulate you for your effort to fix (your self) the GPS ... :). This was (on the other hand) my goal ... to give users the option to extract them self the winceimg ... unfortunately now I no longer have time to work on this project ...
I will extract the winceimg for others users, to have it ...

dogsz4life,
I will try ... anyway the format can be different so .. no warranty that will work.

LE:
C230 - (pnugroho, you can compare the files ...)
http://www.4shared.com/file/rVXWU7v3/C230_EU_ROM_C230V1100007.html

NAVMAN S55
http://www.4shared.com/file/P1B5zciI/S55_ROM_S55V1000005.html


Reply author: dogsz4life
Replied on: 19 May 2010 11:54:03
Message:

Dear g_alin,
Thank you for the wince image. Now updating wince pass checksum, but after that I get an error Unknow image type. Is this anyhow fixable?
Thank for your effort!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 19 May 2010 21:07:03
Message:

dogsz4life,
There is any firmware upgrade for Navman S55 available (on Navman site)? I can take a look at the format ...


Reply author: skarfac3
Replied on: 19 May 2010 21:22:50
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by mihaigsm2003

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

http://www.4shared.com/file/JAIsslVX/RecoverMioCX20.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/jb3lLCDg/MIO_x20_Jtag.html

You should know that this package is for C series (so the patched bootpach.bin IS NOT WORKING ...).
You should try to change the setting of the "unlock UT" (to have access to blue screen).
To do that change (at address 101000h):
"LOCKEDUT"
with:
"UNLOCKED"
After that; if you have access to blue screen; you need to perform an upgrade (with FORMAT) ... and all your My Flash Disk will be deleted...
You can try to upload all firmware through JTAG ... but will take 2 days ... and I think your problem is in My Flash Disk ... so uploading the firmware again (without format of the My flash disk) is not going to help you at all! ... but some more info .. if you what to try:
You have to check (in the SMFlash.img) where you have to load all the firmware parts:
- Settings
- HEADER
- XIPKERNEL
- CHAIN
- XIP
http://www.4shared.com/file/HIr84Sik/resource_marciport.html

DFMorais,
You have to find the SMFlash for your device type ... only ater that we can try to help you ... If you device doesn't start, there is not much you can do software ... probably shorting the pins from memory chip is going to help you to gain access to blue screen.



Hi! I try this in my mio C220 conect ok, but i cant get blue screen. Pls help! My processor in 2SC2440...



mihaigsm this happend also to your mio c220

Hello! i have an mio C220 of a friend he tried to upload maps on it and he "brick" it.What does it do ....i press power and the hourglass if turning and turning at infinity,nothing else.i tried the mio transfer c 250 for couple of sec it appears the flash and the sd active(colored).i tried the solution of i_dido nothing happend . also the solution of g_alin i tried it but i`m sure that i didn`t do it correct. i didn`t found this 2 - galin_UPGRADE_MIO_DDMMMYY.zip and winceimg.zip.Anyway ...somebody can help me,guide me to repair it. Thanks in advance.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 May 2010 04:06:08
Message:

skarfac3,
first page, (16th paragraph):
http://www.4shared.com/file/237773940/67160c36/UPGRADE_MIO_09Mar10.html
You have several firmwares for C220 ... check the first page.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 May 2010 04:28:18
Message:

dogsz4life,
please try this new 'compilation':
http://www.4shared.com/file/P1B5zciI/S55_ROM_S55V1000005.html


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 20 May 2010 20:16:43
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

skarfac3,
first page, (16th paragraph):
http://www.4shared.com/file/237773940/67160c36/UPGRADE_MIO_09Mar10.html
You have several firmwares for C220 ... check the first page.



For me not work . Only connetion with jtag. I try some sjf2440 but not support my flash (29f02g08), i try with NoICE for ARM but not luck. Main processor is S3C2440 ARM920T. Pls help dear g_alin!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 May 2010 20:54:11
Message:

mihaigsm2003,
You don't have to upload the firmware through JTAG ... use JTAG to enter into bootloader (you have to change the setting: LOCKEDUT to UNLOCKED) and from there do the upgrade (with Format) through USB.
WARNING: You will loose all the information from My Flash Disk !!!
try this SJF (I hope you really know what you doing ... with SJF you can delete everything from flash!!!):
http://www.4shared.com/file/qfe8Sm2g/sjf2440_for_k9f2g08u0m.html


Reply author: dogsz4life
Replied on: 21 May 2010 10:54:24
Message:

Dear g_alin,

Thanks you for you effort resolving issues with Navman s55 ROM. That new complication woked perfectly and I have succesfully updated navman's rom. Thank you!! Maybe you can give me your paypal email address I will donate you for your effort! ;)

Thank you one more time!

Best regards,
Justas


Reply author: alpmaster
Replied on: 21 May 2010 14:17:53
Message:

Hello, g_alin,

please, extract the firmware R02.3.9834.0729 (C520_EEU_RUS ?) from SMFlash.img file.
http://www.4shared.com/file/F3MAex9S/Mio_C520_R02398340729.html

This firmware version is used for traffic jams information tracking with the help of mobile phone connected to the device via bluetooth. Mobile phone must support GPRS/EDGE technology.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://miohome.ru/index.php/support/23-be-on-road/144------------mio-520&sl=ru&tl=en


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 21 May 2010 20:00:30
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

mihaigsm2003,
You don't have to upload the firmware through JTAG ... use JTAG to enter into bootloader (you have to change the setting: LOCKEDUT to UNLOCKED) and from there do the upgrade (with Format) through USB.
WARNING: You will loose all the information from My Flash Disk !!!
try this SJF (I hope you really know what you doing ... with SJF you can delete everything from flash!!!):
http://www.4shared.com/file/qfe8Sm2g/sjf2440_for_k9f2g08u0m.html




Sory but not work with your software


Work ok with H-jtag


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 May 2010 21:17:04
Message:

dogsz4life,
I really appreciate your offer ... please consider to donate those money to some poor persons, that we find on the street.

alpmaster,
http://www.4shared.com/file/04fVJmIe/C520_EEU_RUS_ROM_R02398340729.html


Reply author: petikee021
Replied on: 22 May 2010 15:26:38
Message:

Could anyone send me a working .bin file for c720b EEU please? it doesnt matter how old or new it is, just be a working one. I have tried to upgrade the ROM of it with 2 found on the net, if i remember well one was: R02 and the other R39 but neither of it worked. Both freezed after turning on, under the orange MIO picture.


Reply author: tony16889
Replied on: 23 May 2010 07:38:38
Message:

Hello g_alin

Please make firmware for SEEKER.R11.00.0657 (Moov S501 NA) form this SMFlash.img file.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PEJY4H2B

Thank you.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 24 May 2010 19:32:43
Message:

tony16889,
http://www.4shared.com/file/-QE96stQ/MoovS501_NA_ROM_SEEKERR1100065.html

petikee021,
let me know if you found the SMFlash ....


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 24 May 2010 19:54:35
Message:

@g_alin
Please help to write firm in mio C220. I try to connect with sjf2440 but not work with this version. How to reset SMflash?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 24 May 2010 21:58:19
Message:

mihaigsm2003,
I don't have experience with JTAG ... All I can tell you is to use H-JTAG (if is working) + IDA_Pro.
Run step by step and try to enter into blue screen (upgrade using winceimg after that).

petikee021,
this is for C720t NA(I don't think it will work for you ... but that's all I have ...):
http://www.4shared.com/file/cHT4tbIq/C720t_NA_ROM_R05399050912.html


Reply author: petikee021
Replied on: 25 May 2010 14:43:09
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

mihaigsm2003,
I don't have experience with JTAG ... All I can tell you is to use H-JTAG (if is working) + IDA_Pro.
Run step by step and try to enter into blue screen (upgrade using winceimg after that).

petikee021,
this is for C720t NA(I don't think it will work for you ... but that's all I have ...):
http://www.4shared.com/file/cHT4tbIq/C720t_NA_ROM_R05399050912.html




Thank you, i will make a try. BTW a pna repairer friend had a c720 some days ago, and he made a copy of the "rom dump"(he used these words), uploaded it for me, and i am now downloading it. Is there any way i can create an smflash file from it?

Edit: download is ready. But i dont know what the hell can it be. It's a bin file, but It's 65mb. I tried the C720t firmware you linked, but doesnt work neither. Here is a link to the romdumb:
http://rapidshare.com/files/391449513/romdump_MioC720b_R01_EEU.bin.html


Reply author: tony16889
Replied on: 26 May 2010 05:59:59
Message:

g_alin:

update firmware for my moov s501 by

MoovS505_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R16.00.0773.STF128M)
MoovS568_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R20.00.0844.STF128M)
MoovS501_NA (ROM_SEEKER.R11.00.065711000.STF128M)

All work well.
Thanks!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 May 2010 03:37:18
Message:

petikee021,
Your dump is not "the right dump".
You need to use DISKRW and dump SMFlash ... a special BINFS partition.
On this thread you'll find several versions (with or w/o coredll.dll); check them all; and let me know if you need help.

tony16889,
thank you for the confirmation. If you have time, you can give some details about the firmwares (for others to know the advantages/disadvantages of every ROM).


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 28 May 2010 23:45:48
Message:

Hi Alin! i need compilation for sjf2440 with k9f2g08u0m
http://rapidshare.com/files/392676958/sjf2440_k9f2g08u0m.rar


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 May 2010 00:39:19
Message:

mihaigsm2003,
Here you have all SJF2440 that I have ... if you find one that is working ... let me know.
http://www.4shared.com/file/PBlHJ_O0/SJF2440.html

That's all I can do ....


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 29 May 2010 10:12:23
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

mihaigsm2003,
Here you have all SJF2440 that I have ... if you find one that is working ... let me know.
http://www.4shared.com/file/PBlHJ_O0/SJF2440.html

That's all I can do ....



Thanks! But I did not help. Nothing from the archive is not communicating with my CPU (Mio C250) is the only program that communicates the archive put on me, but not the type of NAND that I need. I have a compilation of those sources available to me. (Translated by Google)


Reply author: phenomena
Replied on: 31 May 2010 16:48:57
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by ta2ey

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

ta2ey,
Unfortunately I don't have experience with CE6. If you upload the image I can take a look (don't know if I can help you).



Hi g_alin,

Thanks for your reply. I uploaded my image files here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/296548204/YF82A_4.8_WINCE_6.0_ROM.rar

I'm able to get some info from the system screen of device.

Application Version: S930S-3-3.11A-F2
Kernel Version : 930-1.1.5
Processor type : ARM1136JF-S AT840
Board Type : AT8X0BD 6.0

There was a folder named "repair_system" in original SD card.
That folder included files like "boot82a.bld (15kb),btld82a.bld (62kb),cfg82A.cfg (8kb),os82a.img (49.152kb),YFAPP.wzp (19.025kb), YFUpdate.exe (259kb).

I was unable to restore device with those files when it got locked. Then I e-mailed to seller and requested ROM image. He sent me 3 files that uploaded the archive for you and I could succeed to recover my device.

I'm greatly appreciated if you give me some clues to manage the img files.

Thanks in advance...



hello
can you send me the file

YFAPP.wzp (19.025kb)
boot82a.bld (15kb)
btld82a.bld (62kb)

thank you

bye


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 31 May 2010 21:15:44
Message:

I need boot files for C250 (Nboot, eboot...) for write with jtag.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 01 Jun 2010 19:56:33
Message:

mihaigsm2003,
http://www.4shared.com/file/JAIsslVX/RecoverMioCX20.html
Inside are some information on how to recover C320/C520 ... try to use that on C250 ... maybe will work.
I don't have Nboot or Eboot. there is only ipl.bin and SPL.bin inside (RecoverMioCX20\sjf_Mio\recover\)


Reply author: djkokalis
Replied on: 02 Jun 2010 17:47:40
Message:

i have a c220 that bought from ebay (usa) and i live in greece. which firmware should i choose?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 02 Jun 2010 18:26:52
Message:

djkokalis,
If you need Greek support you need to use EU / EEU firmwares ... if you don't need Greek support you can use the NA.


Reply author: djkokalis
Replied on: 03 Jun 2010 03:45:45
Message:

does it worth the upgrade? what should i win if i upgrade?


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 05 Jun 2010 18:57:23
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

mihaigsm2003,
http://www.4shared.com/file/JAIsslVX/RecoverMioCX20.html
Inside are some information on how to recover C320/C520 ... try to use that on C250 ... maybe will work.
I don't have Nboot or Eboot. there is only ipl.bin and SPL.bin inside (RecoverMioCX20\sjf_Mio\recover\)



Tested, not work. I read from other C250 some block, i write but... not work. maybe something is wrong. I need some adress or blocks...


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 07 Jun 2010 17:49:32
Message:

mihaigsm2003,
If you where able to read the flash search for "LOCKEDUT" as a text (upper case); and replaced with "UNLOCKED"

djkokalis,
I don't know ... if you think you like it as it is, use it like that ...


Reply author: navnav2009
Replied on: 07 Jun 2010 21:23:09
Message:

Hello,i have read this post for a long time but not so good :(I have a mio moov 500 witch i manage to brick.i have put it in blue screen to flash the firmware again but i did not manage to do that.after i navigate in that menu in ''other'' option i found ''FORMAT'' and i executed that option.the device frozen and i reset it.now i have a mio moov 500 with black screen.no blue screen no nothing.it does not start no more.he is dead.you guys have a solution for my problem plase??i really wanted to bring it up to life again.Thank you!


Reply author: vedran84
Replied on: 08 Jun 2010 10:51:22
Message:

I have a similar problem, my gps block on welcome screen, I dump the rom from other device that is fully functional. I have some chinese GPS. With firmware I atached the picture of the device. GPS 369 win ce core 5.0 x11-15302 is all I know about device.

Sory for my indian english :)

P.S

This is my first post on this forum

Thanks

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8Q8WPGON


Reply author: Ico747
Replied on: 08 Jun 2010 10:56:21
Message:

@g_alin
Very useful topic! Tank you very much.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 08 Jun 2010 18:39:40
Message:

navnav2009,

Insert a SDCard (empty or not ... doesn't matter) and do a hardware reset - If doesn't work you can try to disconnect the battery for several hours and reset again.
If you get to the Blue Screen again upload the firmware that is recommended for your device.
If you can get to the Blue Screen you are a dipper trouble ... only JTAG can fix your device (and unfortunately I can't help you much with that ...).

vedran84,
for now:
"The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable."
I let you know when I can download the file ... the chases are low (the upgrade format could be different than Mios format ... in that case is hard to figure out the upgrade format).

LE: You have the resource folder ... You have an Atlas based GPS.
http://www.4shared.com/file/PkYMt6rG/resource_Mito.html
I can tell you that is not a NB0 format ... its a B000FF upgrade format.
Beside the partition extracted by my (at the end the the SMFlash) there is DATA_AREA where are all sort of settings and bitmaps pictures used by OS.
Thats all the information I have ...
(one small detail: This is the biggest ROM I have ever work with ... I think that they didn't had any idea what to keep and what to remove from ROM ... ;) - if you unlock this GPS you'll have natively: Wifi, SDIO, Desktop .... and other stuff ... there is also a bad news: it has a Hive based registry).

Ico747,
You're welcome ....


Reply author: greenleaves
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 05:43:30
Message:

I was trying to update my C230 firmware and had come to step 22 "Now you should see a window that ask you to connect the GPS to PC. Insert the recovery CD and perform the GPS recovery."

The PC was able to detect the GPS as a removable drive F: but I clicked the drive, it said "Please inser a disk into drive F:" There is no way that I can run the recovery CD to reinstall the map. Your help is much appreciated.


Reply author: vedran84
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 10:07:02
Message:

I contacted the company from China, who sold me device, they send me limk for firmware bur it dont work, finish all update on device and dont want to restart gps when is done.
Here is the link for file they send me.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M5YZ47KC


Reply author: Alexandru Popescu
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 11:10:20
Message:

Hi Guys,
somehow i've managed to manufacture the Jtag interface (simple) , to install JTAG software, and NoICE, including driver giveio.
To fix c220 I need a bootloader for c220 or any other bootloader that starts the c220 in order to write the winceimg.
Can you help me?


Reply author: mariano66
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 18:35:40
Message:

Hello g alin and sreliosk ... do you remember me ?? I have a mio moov 200 and i have some problems with it ! an error of the aplication gwes.exe i was reading what you have post and i saw that it΄s a risky posibility to make it working again ... i ofered my gps to make the experiment i need only the instructions to try to make the test..
thanks

MARIANO


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 21:22:18
Message:

greenleaves,

You need to install some drivers to gain access to your device (your GPS doesn't have the Usb Mass Storage so you can't see it as a Drive F:\) - but don't worry you have a software problem; your GPS is not having any problem ...
Unfortunately the driver installed to do the upgrade is taking place of the driver Usb Serial Connection and the device can't be seen by the upgrade software ...
To fix that, find the drivers on CD (a *.sys file and an *.inf file).
Go to Control Panel / System / Hardware / Device Manager and on the bottom you'll find something like Windows CE device (or mobile device) go to Update Driver / choose Advanced ... / Select the location of your CD where the drivers are and reinstall the drivers.
Disconnect GPS, restart PC and start the software for upgrade; when the software will request you to connect GPS to PC connect it.
Let me know if you had any problems.

vedran84,
The device (usually ...) does not restart by him self, you need to do a Hardware Reset (using some button) ...
If the original firmware doesn't work probably you have a hardware problem ...

LE: Can you tell me what do you see on your GPS after you upgrade and restart?

Alexandru Popescu,
I can't help you with the bootloader, because I don't have one ... and can't be downloaded using DiskRW ... you need to find a good device and copy the Flash (as it is) from a good device to your bad device. You should activate the BlueScreen on the good device before you download the Flash ... this way also your device will have the BlueScreen activated and you'll be able to chage the firmware later on ...

mariano66,
The risky option is to connect the JTAG to your device (probably H-JTAG) search in memory where is the settings "LOCKEDUT" and change it to "UNLOCKED" ... after that you have access to BlueScreen and you can upload other firmwares.


Reply author: joetgt
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 22:02:47
Message:

Hi everybody, i'm lucky i found this topic here.
I made a big mistake today, i accidentally with my mouse moved Appstartupexec.exe from root dir of V735tv to other dir. I realized it, when i rebooted the gps, explore more logo, thats all, no usb, nothing.
Is there an easy way to restore the inner flash? I think i can repair it with reflash. Can i ask somebody to upload the rom file ?

Thank you fro your help. The gps is 1 day old, and i ruined it :/


Reply author: greenleaves
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 22:18:06
Message:


Hi g_alin,

I tried it on a windows XP SP3 PC. It could detect the GPS as a Drive Disk "SDMMC USB Device" but could not find something like Windows CE device (or mobile device) you mentioned in the list. Again when I clicked the drive F: it said "Please insert disk". When I inserted the SD card into the GPS, the PC can read the SD card. It looks like the PC cannot detect the flash drive inside the GPS to allow software reinstall.

I also tried it on a Windows 7 PC. Similar to XP, it found "SDMMC USB Device" and the Portable Device as drive F:\. When I tried to update the driver it said it has the latest driver.

When you mentioned the CD, do you mean the Windows XP/7 CD? The recovery CD that comes with the GPS only contains the map but not the system drivers.

Anything I can try further? Thanks


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 23:06:37
Message:

greenleaves,

Now I understand ... you have MioMap2008 ...
Your GPS has the USB Mass storage so you can copy easily ...
I am talking about GPS CD ... you should try to Run the software from PC (AutoRunCD). Alternatively you can try to download from Mio site MioMore Desktop.

joetgt,
To upgrade you need to have access to BlueScreen (upgrade screen) ... do you have?
There is a software that is 'locking' / 'unlocking' the BlueScreen, so if you don't have access to BlueScreen you need to figure out a way start that software ...
BTW ... if you find a way to start that software .. you can start also the DiskRW ... to download the SMFlash.img. :)


Reply author: joetgt
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 23:19:18
Message:

Hi g_alin, thanks for lightning fast answer.

can i boot from sd with winceimg ?

dont know how to enable fw upgrade screen :/


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 23:32:19
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by joetgt

Hi g_alin, thanks for lightning fast answer.

can i boot from sd with winceimg ?

dont know how to enable fw upgrade screen :/



I don't know (I don't remember to heard from someone ...) that was able to boot from SDCard .... there where some speculation on that matter ... but there is nothing materialized ....
To enable BlueScreen: please read first page (first post )... very careful and you'll know ... You are on the Moov section ...


Reply author: joetgt
Replied on: 10 Jun 2010 23:40:23
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

quote:
Originally posted by joetgt

Hi g_alin, thanks for lightning fast answer.

can i boot from sd with winceimg ?

dont know how to enable fw upgrade screen :/



I don't know (I don't remember to heard from someone ...) that was able to boot from SDCard .... there where some speculation on that matter ... but there is nothing materialized ....
To enable BlueScreen: please read first page (first post )... very careful and you'll know ... You are on the Moov section ...



I read it, but 735 fw is not there, today i disassembled it, not a big work, so i should try to get it to bluescreen with that pin thing.

tomorrow i'll post what happened:)
thank you and good night!


Reply author: greenleaves
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 01:14:47
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

greenleaves,

Now I understand ... you have MioMap2008 ...
Your GPS has the USB Mass storage so you can copy easily ...
I am talking about GPS CD ... you should try to Run the software from PC (AutoRunCD). Alternatively you can try to download from Mio site MioMore Desktop.


The problem is the PC can't find the flash drive when I run the recovery CD. It said "it cannot find the device to install the software." Normally, the PC should see the flash drive something like "MIO" and the SD card if there is one is in the slot. Now the PC just can't detect the flash drive. Where is the problem?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 02:24:38
Message:

greenleaves,
Ok (now I hope I understood ...).
If you see the SDCard (but you don't see the My Flash Disk - aka 'Mio Devices') you have to perform the upgrade with Format (not without Format ...).
Your new firmware and old firmware are partitioning different the My Flash Disk ... if you upgrade with Format everything will be wipe out and the new firmware will format the My flash Disk according to the new 'format'
BTW: If you want to recover the data from My flash disk you have to upgrade (without Format) to your previously used firmware version.
Let me know if you fixed.


Reply author: greenleaves
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 03:53:41
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

greenleaves,
Ok (now I hope I understood ...).
If you see the SDCard (but you don't see the My Flash Disk - aka 'Mio Devices') you have to perform the upgrade with Format (not without Format ...).
Your new firmware and old firmware are partitioning different the My Flash Disk ... if you upgrade with Format everything will be wipe out and the new firmware will format the My flash Disk according to the new 'format'
BTW: If you want to recover the data from My flash disk you have to upgrade (without Format) to your previously used firmware version.
Let me know if you fixed.


I did both format and unformat but 'Mio Device' didn't show up in both cases. In the unformat case, I could not recover the old firmware version as you indicated.

You mentioned to update the 'Portable Device' with the driver that comes with the recovery CD. I found one 'WCEUSBSH.INF' in the recovery CD, but windows 7 found it to be incomparable. Where can I find the USB driver?

BTW, I believe my C230 is a NA version. Does it matter if I used EU firmware? May be this is an issue.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 04:43:09
Message:

greenleaves,
Possible ... if the flash memory is different may not be addressable as firmware (wince) expects ...
WCEUSBSH.INF is the file ... but works only with the 'MioMap' versions of firmware ... the new ones (like MioMap2008) don't need this driver ...
Sorry for your My Flash disk .. lost.
If you find somewhere a NA version and download the SMFlash I can make the firmware upgrade ...


Reply author: greenleaves
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 05:19:54
Message:

g_alin, Sorry to hear that. My C230 was having sluggish response and that makes it impossible to use in navigation. That's why I ventured to update the firmware in the hope that may solve the problem even though I know before hand the EU firmware may be not compatible with the NA hardware. Now I can confirm that is case. I appreciate your help anyway. Thank you.

One more thought: 'My flash drive' is not essential so long as I can run the map program on the SD card. Now whenever the SD is in the slot, it always starts up with the blue upgrade screen. How can I get rid of the blue screen and boot directly from the SD card?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 18:52:46
Message:

greenleaves
During unlock procedure you started a program that activated BlueScreen by pressing "SuperMode" button ... to disable the BlueScreen follow the procedure and choose "UserMode"
check this simple unlock: http://www.freewebs.com/xtyler91/


Reply author: greenleaves
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 20:24:06
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

greenleaves
During unlock procedure you started a program that activated BlueScreen by pressing "SuperMode" button ... to disable the BlueScreen follow the procedure and choose "UserMode"
check this simple unlock: http://www.freewebs.com/xtyler91/


I was using the same unlock SD to boot the gps but it went straight into the blue screen. The "Supermode" didn't show up and I could not choose the "UserMode" as before. The blue screen shows "Tilapia_UT_R06_0822 MLC 1C" and I have no idea what it is. Any clue?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 20:28:28
Message:

greenleaves,
Boot the GPS (without SDCard) and insert the SDCard after ...


Reply author: greenleaves
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 21:10:55
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

greenleaves,
Boot the GPS (without SDCard) and insert the SDCard after ...


That didn't work either.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Jun 2010 21:31:16
Message:

greenleaves,
use a different "auto start" from SDCard ...
use this unlock (you need to do steps 23 and 24 from SDCard\documents\read-me_Cx20.txt):
http://www.4shared.com/file/cvkc5b2z/UPGRADE_MIO_11Jun10.html
Let me know if it works.
BTW: How did you started the application, first time (when you activated BlueScreen)?

LE: can someone: download and upload the SMFlash from C230_NA?


Reply author: greenleaves
Replied on: 12 Jun 2010 02:06:31
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

greenleaves,
use a different "auto start" from SDCard ...
use this unlock (you need to do steps 23 and 24 from SDCard\documents\read-me_Cx20.txt):
http://www.4shared.com/file/cvkc5b2z/UPGRADE_MIO_11Jun10.html
Let me know if it works.
BTW: How did you started the application, first time (when you activated BlueScreen)?

LE: can someone: download and upload the SMFlash from C230_NA?


I noticed you changed "autostart" name to "autorun_ABC" but that didn't work either. The bluescreen still poped up. I used "goce" instead to get it booted up to the startup screen previously but not after the firmware upgrade.

What I did previously was with the upgrade SD card in the slot, turn ON power to boot up the SD. The startup screen showed up and allowed me to choose Upgrade and Superuser. After the firmware upgrade, I could not do it anymore.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Jun 2010 03:41:44
Message:

greenleaves,
try this procedure:
1. (without SDCard) power on GPS
2. after boot ... do soft reset (not a hardware reset) - short power off push
3. insert the SDCard
4. power on again


Reply author: greenleaves
Replied on: 12 Jun 2010 05:17:33
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

greenleaves,
try this procedure:
1. (without SDCard) power on GPS
2. after boot ... do soft reset (not a hardware reset) - short power off push
3. insert the SDCard
4. power on again


Only the hardware reset power ON/OFF can turn on or off the GPS. When it is on, the USB connection screen pops up and the soft power on/off button is no more functioning. The GPS tries hard to boot from the flash drive no matter what you do.


Reply author: vedran84
Replied on: 12 Jun 2010 12:21:41
Message:

Thanks for your help g_alin, firware that chinese sent me is ok, my unit is broken I try thet firmare on other unit and it work fine. I have 20 broken unit. :( They all block on wlcome screen.


Reply author: passioner
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 01:28:28
Message:

Hello g_alin,

Thanks for your answer to my question in http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=135820. If I have understood correctly, then I should read the posts here http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=127723&.

I started it but can not read all 50 pages because English is in this crowd-consuming and difficult. But I've watched on YouTube the films. I have the PIN9 method, the method to touch all the pins, the method to drain the battery and tried to restart, but still without success. It is not the desired blue screen.

I have also searched for Mio Moov Spirit 505TV and my firmware R13.VT505.0310 and not found.

If I have understood you correctly, I should now search and download the same device with SMFlash the data. I hope to find someone who can make me (harryhilft).

Thanks and greetings
passioner


Reply author: Nextasym
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 10:16:48
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

This post is intended for firmware upgrades (original or custom).
As a general rule, this post will be updated (from time to time) to reflect latest documents (or versions).

Last update: Friday, May 21, 2010

Question 1: what devices can be upgraded?
Answer 1: (until now) this procedure was tested on Mio C220_NA; C320; C520_EEU; C520T_WEU
Tested performed by: Mio C220_NA (me),Mio C250_EEU (tgg2k) , Mio C520_EEU (asgaard: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=5) C520T_WEU (krisvw: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=4), C320 (zeluis_cps: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=6), C520T_WEU (PeterMJ: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=111274&whichpage=6)

Question 2: how can I upgrade the firmware?
Answer 2: There is a small utility that is able to activate the UPGRADE screen. This upgrade screen will provide you the possibility to upgrade two components: uboot and wince.
http://www.4shared.com/file/237773940/67160c36/UPGRADE_MIO_09Mar10.html
In this package you’ll find the documentation available to perform the upgrade.
- Menu structure can be found in file menu.txt (UPGRADE_MIO_ddmmmyy.zip\SDCard\documents\menu.txt)
- Procedure (how to upgrade) can be found in file read-me.txt (UPGRADE_MIO_ddmmmyy.zip\SDCard\documents\read-me.txt)
WARNING: I DON'T RECOMMEND TO UPGRADE UBOOT.
WARNING: IN SOME CASES (read read-me.txt carefully) ALL THE INFORMATION FROM “MY FLASH DISK” MAY BE LOST, DO A BACK-UP FIRST.

Question 3: How can I come back to my old firmware (if I don’t like this new firmware)?
Answer 3: After you performed the upgrade is recommended to left the UPGRADE screen activated for a period of time (days, weeks) until are you 100% sure that your device is stable. After that you can disable the UPGRADE screen.
The firmwares that I have (so far) are:

C220_NA (R06.3.0165.0315) http://www.4shared.com/file/129432373/b6157f94/C220_NA_ROM_R06301650315.html (better option than R06.3)
C220_NA (R08.3.0165.0611) http://www.4shared.com/file/129432408/6bc9265e/C220_NA_ROM_R08301650611.html
C220_RUS (R05.3.0171.0911) http://www.4shared.com/file/129434239/16056665/C220_RUS_ROM_R05301710911.html
C220_WEU (R04.3.0168.0316) http://www.4shared.com/file/153597068/221d4465/C220_WEU_ROM_R04301680316.html
C220_WEU (R05.4.0168.0425) http://www.4shared.com/file/153632930/a59a99a0/C220_WEU_ROM_R05401680425.html
C220_EEU (R02.3.0173.0608) http://www.4shared.com/file/225563080/efefe1b9/C220_EEU_ROM_R02301730608.html
C220_EEU (MioMap2008?) (R02.0170_V2.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/230500935/70c78205/C220_EEU_ROM_R020170_V2000000.html
C220_EEU (Turkey ONLY) (R04.3.0172.0911) http://www.4shared.com/file/129442246/5eb06eff/C220_EEUT_ROM_R04301720911.html
C220_RUS-rev.230 (R00.2.9952.0229.64Mb) http://www.4shared.com/file/203306716/9d333d88/C220_RUS_ROM_R0029952022964Mb.html (base on SMDK2443)

C230_EU (C230.V1.10.0007) http://www.4shared.com/file/rVXWU7v3/C230_EU_ROM_C230V1100007.html

C250_EEU (R03.3.0164.0416) http://www.4shared.com/file/129443927/cb04716b/C250_EEU_ROM_R03301640416.html
C250_EU (MioMap2008?) (R02.0164_v2.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/134364541/2a48b083/C250_EU_ROM_-_R020164_v2000000.html
I am not sure, but the firmware from C250 may work on C250 Plus also (and vice versa)
C250_Plus_EU (R11.3.0160.1107) http://www.4shared.com/file/134361154/73ee2da3/C250_EU_ROM_R11301601107.html
C250_Plus_EU (R17.4.0160.0917) http://www.4shared.com/file/143885453/7eb69489/C250_EU_ROM_R17401600917.html (better option than R11.3)

C320_NA (R40.3.9904.0720) http://www.4shared.com/file/129459508/324a3ec8/C320_NA_ROM_R40399040720.html
C320_WEU (R37.3.9926.0702) http://www.4shared.com/file/129446046/d2562dc6/c320_WEU_ROM_R37399260702.html
C320_CHS (R02.3.9964.0511) http://www.4shared.com/file/258646102/6862d98f/C320_CHS_ROM_R02399640511.html

C520_WEU (R37.3.9931.0816) http://www.4shared.com/file/129460987/599e656f/C520T_WEU_ROM_R37399310816.html
C520_EEU (R02.3.9911.1018) http://www.4shared.com/file/129461850/cb2a83d3/C520_EEU_ROM_R02399111018.html
C520_EEUT (MioMap2008) (ROM_V1.00.0003) http://www.4shared.com/file/129467782/bebd8453/C520_EEUT_ROM_V1000003.html
C520_EEU_RUS (R45.3.9966.1010) http://www.4shared.com/file/129461931/ebb57ef4/C520_EEU_ROM_R45399661010.html
C520_EEU_RUS (R02.3.9834.0729) http://www.4shared.com/file/04fVJmIe/C520_EEU_RUS_ROM_R02398340729.html (traffic jams information over GPRS)

C520_EEU_HEBRAIC (R40.3.9932.0709) http://www.4shared.com/file/136394618/396ac4c3/C520_EEU_ROM_R40399320709.html
C520_AUS (R39.3.9965.0801) http://www.4shared.com/file/129463416/e536d20d/C520_AUS_ROM_R39399650801.html
C520_AUS (R41.3.9965.1031) http://www.4shared.com/file/214445692/a0781e28/C520_AUS_ROM_R41399651031.html
C520_NA (R48.3.9937.1026) http://www.4shared.com/file/143829336/5daf761c/C520_NA_ROM_R48399371026.html

Older series:
C310_ENG_EEU_RUS (R36F.3.1100.0702) http://www.4shared.com/file/129464116/7e2a285f/C310_ENG_RUS_ROM_R36F311000702.html

C510_ENG_EEU_RUS (R35F.3.126.0711) http://www.4shared.com/file/129466625/6348f428/C510_ENG_RUS_ROM_R35F31260711.html
C510_ENG_EEU (OSCAR210AEEUR33F) http://www.4shared.com/file/129466192/1b97aec5/C510_EEU_R33F.html

C710_ENG_EUR (R33F.2.112.517) http://www.4shared.com/file/243375100/4d19a84a/C710_ENG_R33F2112517.html

H610_NA (R38.2.0153.1010) http://www.4shared.com/file/194548050/351060b2/H610_NA_ROM_R38201531010.html
H610_WEU (R50.3.0150.1123) http://www.4shared.com/file/239872283/472a538c/H610_WEU_ROM_R50301501123.html

Other Mio/Mitac Clones:
Clarion EZD580, it is marketed in Europe under the names Clarion Map780 and Clarion MAP680:
Clarion EZD580 (R10.4.1331.0512) http://www.4shared.com/file/237243823/beea7b5e/Clarion_EZD580_ROM_R1041331051.html

If you have a different firmware you need to back-up your wince. To do that, you need DiscRW utility.
If your device is unlocked and you can run applications on your PNA, try to use this DiskRW software:
http://www.4shared.com/file/134354901/9ef633/DiskRW.html
instructions:
1.Start DiskRW
2.Select from combo-box (close to 'Store:') -> SMFlash
3.Press '...' button and select 'Storage Card' (where to save your SMFlash.img); If '...' doesn't work you can write (using any keyboard you have) the name of the SDCard folder of your PNA (ex: \Storage Card\, \SDMMC\ ...)
4.Press 'Read' button. A Hourglass will appear and it will take approx. 30 sec.
If the above application doesn't work, you should contact me to (on this thread) to fins a solution. Because every device is different I can’t give you a DiskRW custom made for your model.

For wince 4.2: you can use also bkondisk.exe (http://hpcmonex.net/roms/bkondisk.zip). For more info check: http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=82603&whichpage=2

Question 4: I lost 'My Flash Disk' can I recover it with this procedure?
Answer 4: Yes. You have to use 'wince by USB (Format)' to format your 'My Flash Disk'.
WARNING: ALL THE INFORMATION FROM “MY FLASH DISK” WILL BE LOST (and there is nothing you can do to save it).

Question 5: There is anything else that I should know?
Answer 5: Yes. There are no warranties what so ever; so all you do is on your own risk. Anyway I can tell you that I uploaded on my GPS (C220_NA) many not compatible firmwares. I wouldn’t recommend you to do that until you really know what you are doing. If you check the firmware before and is using the same SMFlash memory area, like your device, (theoretically) there is no risk. But like I said: DON’T TRY THAT (unless you really know what you’re doing).

Those Q/A will cover most of the questions, but if you have other questions (or any advice) please let me know. When other firmwares will be available I will update this post.

Custom firmwares (usually ‘custom’ stands for ‘changed’ - aka ROM cooking).
software need it to change a firmware: ROMMasterCE5 (v.1.9.9) - http://www.4shared.com/file/237775472/8f86f256/ROMMasterCE_ver199.html

1. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) added. (doesn't work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129470682/1fc8ff6d/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_1.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.

2. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) and all office components added. (doesn’t work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129470932/f760619b/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_2.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.

3. This is based on ROM R08.3 (NA) and has the explorer (taskbar) and all office components added. Has a Navigator.lnk shortcut from Desktop to \My Flash Disk\MioMap\Miomap\Miomap.exe. If you have, more than one, navigation software you can place a script there - using mortscript switch command; to be able to start any of those applications. Also previous version has the FSRAMPERCENT to small -> was increased to 1.5M (doesn’t work with C250!)
http://www.4shared.com/file/129471186/a5564a94/C220_NA_ROM_R08_Desktop_3.html
Known bugs:
- There is a file 'desktop.ini' on every folder (from the GPS) – including Desktop.
- The menu 'send to Desktop as a shortcut' is not working.
- Taskbar is on top of the navigation software. FIX: Start \ Settings \ Taskbar and Start Menu -> CHECK Auto hide


With srelioskoz help we have a recovery method also for MOOV series :)

============================================================================================================
FIRST OF ALL DO NOT TRY ANYTHING IN YOUR MIO BEFORE YOU READ ALL THIS POST
IF YOU DONT SEE YOUR MIOs FIRMWARE DO NOT TRY WITH ANOTHER ONE

1)how to upgrade mio moov firmware
http://www.4shared.com/file/191674275/ad12bab0/cobia_420_64.html

mirror: http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html

download this file and put it in your sd card (this is for mio moov 360 if you have another mio moov you must rename the folder)
Moov 150 - European: Cobia_300L_32, North American: Cobia_300L_32_NA, Australian: Cobia_300L_32_AU
Moov 200 - European: Cobia_300_32, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_32_AU
Moov 200u - European: Cobia_300_64, North American: Cobia_300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_300_64_AU
Moov 210 - European: Cobia_T300_32, North American: Cobia_T300_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T300_32_AU
Moov 300 - European: Cobia_400_64, North American: Cobia_400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_400_64_AU
Moov 310 - European: Cobia_T400_64, North American: Cobia_T400_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T400_64_AU
Moov 330 - European: Cobia_410_64, North American: Cobia_410_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_410_64_AU
Moov 360 - European: Cobia_420_64, North American: Cobia_420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_420_64_AU
Moov 370 - European: Cobia_T420_64, North American: Cobia_T420_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T420_64_AU
Moov 500 - European: Cobia_500_64, North American: Cobia_500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_500_64_AU
Moov 500 R2 - European: Cobia500R2, North American: Cobia500R2_NA, Australian: Cobia500R2_AU
Moov 510 - European: Cobia_T500_64, North American: Cobia_T500_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T500_64_AU
Moov 560 - European: Cobia_520_64, North American: Cobia_520_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_520_64_AU
Moov 580 - European: Cobia_T550_64, North American: Cobia_T550_64_NA, Australian: Cobia_T550_64_AU


when you start up your mio this program will start by it self and will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE
choose USERMODE and OK to all it ask you.
then put power button to reset position and on again
your mio moov will start with blue upgrade screen.

download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card (use small cards 128M -> 1G)
startup your mio and you can see blue upgrade screen
touch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off and then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio without sd card and connect it to pc
open mio more desktop and write again mio map program and the map.
then put the power button to reset position and put the power button to on position
when you see the black screen with firmware of your mio ,push inside the sd card
your mio will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE ... choose SUPERMODE and ok to all it ask you

this is the firmware for mio moov 330 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html

firmware of moov 360 europe
http://www.4shared.com/file/165538541/90b06686/MOOV_360_ROM.html

firmware of mio 300 europe
THIS IS NOT A GOOD FIRMWARE ... DON'T TRY TO LOAD IT
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/MOOV300_ .... winceimg.zip




2)How to repair your mio if no connection with pc (IS NOT WORKING FOR COBIA_300_32)
look this video to found how to make mio moov upgrade screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKM7C_6UYkw

look this video how to open mio moov application
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLKSG3U2VYk

look this link .on 4 page you can see the pinout of cobia electronic part (memory IC)
http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/datasheets/qi_lb60/U9~K9GAG08U0M~~2GB-FINAL_NAND-NOT_ON_SOME_PROTOTYPES~~.pdf


first put the sd card in to mio
1)put the power button to RESET position
2)carefully connect the wire as you see on the picture http://www.4shared.com/file/192360271/79584b60/moov330pcbback1.html
3)put the power button to ON position
4)you will see the blue screen
5)take the wire from the connect
6)if you want the normal screen put again the power swich to RESET position
7)if you want to make a selection when you have blue screen, touch on screen and then put the power buton to OFF and then ON position
8)DO NOT MAKE FORMAT SELECTION IF YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHIT FIRMWARE

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
download the firmware of your mio and put the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin in your sd card
with blue upgrade screen touch on screen and choose
0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off then on
mio moov will start the upgrade firmware
when it finish restart your mio and connect it to pc
open mio more desktop and write again mio map program and the map.

i d like to say thanks to g_alin for his help
STELIOS FROM GREECE
============================================================================================================

MOOV firmwares (some new devices don't have Recovery CD - in that case you should copy all data from \My Flash Disk folder before upgarade)

Moov150_EU (Cobia_300L_32) (ROM_V1.00.0024) http://www.4shared.com/file/257616884/78a132a4/Moov_150_Cobia_300L_32_EU_V100.html (not confirmed)
MOOV200_EU N177 (ROM_V1.00.0030) http://www.4shared.com/file/219174788/96724186/Moov200_EU_ROM_V1000030.html
Moov200_EU (Cobia_300_32) (ROM_V1.00.0019) http://www.4shared.com/file/243403980/19dc08e/Moov_200_Cobia_300_32_EEU_V100.html
MOOV330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0019) http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
MOOV330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0028) http://www.4shared.com/file/195309548/19093226/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000028.html
MOOV330_EEU (ROM_V1.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/241960405/70275e3/Moov_330_Cobia_410_EEU_V100000.html
MOOV360_EU (ROM_V1.00.0021) http://www.4shared.com/file/194369290/8e042cc8/MOOV360_EU_ROM_V1000021.html
Moov370_EU(N179) (ROM_V1.00.0019_Cobia_T420_64_V_5.50.0212) http://www.4shared.com/file/YHquQBF3/Moov370_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
MOOV500_EU (ROM_V1.00.0004) http://www.4shared.com/file/218540220/91a947f0/MOOV500_EU_ROM_V1000004.html
MOOV500R2_NA (ROM_V1.9540.0012) http://www.4shared.com/file/194616656/765533d8/MOOV500R2-NA_ROM_V195400012.html
MOOV560_EU (ROM_T550R2.V1.00.0003) http://www.4shared.com/file/218546681/3e2368ec/Moov560_EU_ROM_T550R2V1000003.html
MoovS505_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R16.00.0773.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/237769132/9a9763b1/MoovS505_EU_ROM_SEEKERR1600077.html (Not tested)
MoovS568_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R20.00.0844.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/237280467/3b4c1c8/MoovS568_EU_ROM_SEEKERR2000084.html

For the spirit(MIO MOOV S568), after flashing the firmware, the software can be reinstalled with the current latest version downloadable at:
https://register.navman.com/installer/?BRANDNAME=mio&HARDWARENAME=SEEKER_FT525&SKUID=9248&DISPLAYNAME=Moov%20S568&LANGUAGE=en-US&DEVICEVERSION=6.10

Other ROMS
NAVMAN S55 (ROM_S55.V1.00.0005) http://www.4shared.com/file/P1B5zciI/S55_ROM_S55V1000005.html




@g-alin:

sorry to ask a stupid question: The whole txt especially the mio moov section is kind confusing , at least to me:

first i have a Mio Moov 510 Europe:

Which of this software can i use to upgrade my mio moov 510 since my firmware is on the list, since you wrote at the beginning "IF YOU DONT SEE YOUR MIOs FIRMWARE DO NOT TRY WITH ANOTHER ONE" and then later you said in the Moov section "download this file and put it in your sd card (this is for mio moov 360 if you have another mio moov you must rename the folder)"?

2. MOOV360_EU (ROM_V1.00.0021), MOOV500_EU (ROM_V1.00.0004) or MOOV560_EU (ROM_T550R2.V1.00.0003). which one? sorry if i am reapeating myself.

Thanks in advance.


Reply author: joetgt
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 13:03:36
Message:

hi g_alin

today i got a phone call, i sent to service my friends moov 370, because i accidentally ruined appstartupsec.exe

they say the mobo is broken, usb and card reader too, they want to replace the motherboard for 129 eur. the dont even know that the appstartupsec initializes teh usb.
lol
so the mio service can not repair it with blue screen menu.
they send me back the gps and i disassemble it and try to repair with your fw link.

the mio moo 735 tv is still there, there i moved the appstartupsec to another dir, replaced with my file, and its broken too. they will call me today what is with it. its 2 day old, so i think they give me a new one. (they just called me, they replace the mobo, they say its broken :) )

mio makes me laugh, they call themselves service/support etc.

now i'll search for a pin, dont know how to do but i'll try to get that boot menu, dont want to buy a new one to my friend. but if i fail i will.

any ideas ?

thanks
joe


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 19:31:47
Message:

greenleaves,
The only option that I see is: to insert the SDCard after you power-on (to pass over BlueScreen) the GPS but before the WINCE starts ...
You'll have to play with it ... but I think is doable.

vedran84, :( (!low quality ... my friend!)

passioner,
You have to find an identical GPS and to download the SMFlash (using DiskRW) ... let me know when you have that file.

Nextasym,
The second part was written by srelioskoz ...
That warning should be something like:
IF YOU DON'T SEE YOUR FIRMWARE AVAILABLE, DON'T TRY TO USE ANOTHER FIRMWARE, FIRST DOWNLOAD THE SMFLASH.IMG (TO BE ABLE TO RESTORE YOU DEVICE, LATER ON) AND ONLY AFTER THAT YOU CAN PLAY WITH OTHER FIRMWARES.
Your firmware is not on the list ... that list is for the folder name used to autostart (something from SDCard). The firmwares available (at this moment) are:
Moov150_EU (Cobia_300L_32) (ROM_V1.00.0024) http://www.4shared.com/file/257616884/78a132a4/Moov_150_Cobia_300L_32_EU_V100.html (not confirmed)
MOOV200_EU N177 (ROM_V1.00.0030) http://www.4shared.com/file/219174788/96724186/Moov200_EU_ROM_V1000030.html
Moov200_EU (Cobia_300_32) (ROM_V1.00.0019) http://www.4shared.com/file/243403980/19dc08e/Moov_200_Cobia_300_32_EEU_V100.html
MOOV330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0019) http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
MOOV330_EU (ROM_V1.00.0028) http://www.4shared.com/file/195309548/19093226/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000028.html
MOOV330_EEU (ROM_V1.00.0000) http://www.4shared.com/file/241960405/70275e3/Moov_330_Cobia_410_EEU_V100000.html
MOOV360_EU (ROM_V1.00.0021) http://www.4shared.com/file/194369290/8e042cc8/MOOV360_EU_ROM_V1000021.html
Moov370_EU(N179) (ROM_V1.00.0019_Cobia_T420_64_V_5.50.0212) http://www.4shared.com/file/YHquQBF3/Moov370_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
MOOV500_EU (ROM_V1.00.0004) http://www.4shared.com/file/218540220/91a947f0/MOOV500_EU_ROM_V1000004.html
MOOV500R2_NA (ROM_V1.9540.0012) http://www.4shared.com/file/194616656/765533d8/MOOV500R2-NA_ROM_V195400012.html
MOOV560_EU (ROM_T550R2.V1.00.0003) http://www.4shared.com/file/218546681/3e2368ec/Moov560_EU_ROM_T550R2V1000003.html
MoovS501_NA (ROM_SEEKER.R11.00.0657.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/-QE96stQ/MoovS501_NA_ROM_SEEKERR1100065.html
MoovS505_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R16.00.0773.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/237769132/9a9763b1/MoovS505_EU_ROM_SEEKERR1600077.html
MoovS568_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R20.00.0844.STF128M) http://www.4shared.com/file/237280467/3b4c1c8/MoovS568_EU_ROM_SEEKERR2000084.html
You need MOOV510_EU ... as you can see is not available ....
Before you start you should download the SMFlash.img (using diskRW - you device must be 'unlocked' to have access to wince to do this download).

joetgt,
if the 'pin 9' trick is not working only the H-JTAG option is available (I can't help you too much with this one ... because I don't know ...).
For them is more easily to change the motherboard (the flash is on motherboard and this way, they will replace also the Flash and wince). They are trained to fix the devices fast and easy (not necessarily cheaper ...)
Anyway if you can enter into the BlueScreen you need to find also the SMFlash (or an identical device to download the SMFlash).


Reply author: passioner
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 21:30:57
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

...
passioner,

You have to find an identical GPS and to download the SMFlash (using DiskRW) ... let me know when you have that file.


Hi g_alin,
thanks for your advice. You know, that I have no USB connection and no possibilty to operate with my Mio ...?
Is it helpful to produce the file with DiskRW?

passioner


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 21:42:49
Message:

passioner,
You need to download the SMFlash from another device (not this one that is broken).
It is important to have the SMFlash, because you need to upgrade with Format (to delete the My Flash Disk and start with a fresh GPS) and what FW are you going to use for upgrade!?


Reply author: passioner
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 21:58:14
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

... because you need to upgrade with Format (to delete the My Flash Disk and start with a fresh GPS) and what FW are you going to use for upgrade!?


Hi g_alin,

sorry, I don't understandthat.
How can I upgrade with Format and how can I transfer the FW (R13.VT505.0310) if I have no connection to my Mio?
My Mio starts with orange colored display and then appears the message: Dataset not found ... and the device is blocked, nothing for operating ...
Please tell me if I make a mistake in my head ...

Thanks passioner


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 22:02:37
Message:

passioner,
:) please read the first page, first post.
There is 'pin9 trick' that can be used for some Mios (you can try also with yours ...)
If you are able to enter into BlueScreen; you'll be able to upgrade with Format option.
The upgrade is done with SDCard (can be done also with firmware if you really want ...)


Reply author: passioner
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 22:06:47
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

...
If you are able to enter into BlueScreen; you'll be able to upgrade with Format option.
The upgrade is done with SDCard (can be done also with firmware if you really want ...)



g_alin,

there was a small misunderstanding.
My Mio do not show the blue screen. That is my problem for what I search a solution. PIN9-method has no success.

thanks
passioner


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 22:27:22
Message:

passioner,
In that case your last option is to connect your GPS to a JTAG (using H-JTAG or other JTAG based hardware) and to change the settings that allow you to enter into the BlueScreen.


Reply author: mihaigsm2003
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 22:32:04
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by passioner

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

...
If you are able to enter into BlueScreen; you'll be able to upgrade with Format option.
The upgrade is done with SDCard (can be done also with firmware if you really want ...)



g_alin,

there was a small misunderstanding.
My Mio do not show the blue screen. That is my problem for what I search a solution. PIN9-method has no success.

thanks
passioner



What processor you have in your mio? Maybe sirf/atlasIV?


Reply author: passioner
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 23:03:15
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by mihaigsm2003

What processor you have in your mio? Maybe sirf/atlasIV?



Sirf prime - for GPS - or not?


Reply author: passioner
Replied on: 14 Jun 2010 23:29:57
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

passioner,
In that case your last option is to connect your GPS to a JTAG (using H-JTAG or other JTAG based hardware) and to change the settings that allow you to enter into the BlueScreen.


Hi g_alin,

I thank you again for time which you spent for my problem.

Bye


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 16 Jun 2010 06:43:47
Message:

g_alin,
since some days I can not start my MIO C320b anymore. I running it with miopocket very well over 1 year or longer. Now I have the message "Application Launcher.exe has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down...." and the Mio freeze. Only hardreset help to restart. But everytime the same, with or without SD. I try a lot of things from the last 49 pages, but I can not connect with DNW over USB and I dont see the blue screen. Start some programms / tools over script in the SD is not working , maybe to early to read the SD.
Also try with the winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks only on a fresh FAT16 formated 128MB SDCard. Nothing help.
I am not sure which firmware I need. I mean to remember, that the MIO support write, the C320 WEU ist not for C320b. My firware is R00+3+R9915+0927. Is there a possibility to reanimate the gps or is it for service omly?
On the motherboard I see the information PWA: MANTAS410A-MB.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Jun 2010 18:55:28
Message:

thomas_2,
(first of all I read your post from: DSK1 partition lost in MIO C520).
Your problem is following:
- Launcher.exe is corrupted ...
Because Launcher.exe is not working you don't have USB connection and SDCard autorun is not working ...
I was thinking - in the last 24h - but the only way (I see right now) its JTAG.
You can try to play with (unexplored ...) boot from SDCard MS-BIN partition.
To explore that option you need to download the SMFlash using DiskRW as RAW to RAW data - this way the data will be copied one to one from SMFlash to SDCard and do a hardware reset with SDCard inserted ...
Let me know if you need more info ...
PS. you have to copy the SMFlash from a good working device ;).


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 16 Jun 2010 19:22:08
Message:

g_alin,
thanks for your fast answer, I mean my first post was on a wrong place, so I delete it there.
Is not only DSK1 lost :-).
My problem now... I know nobody with a C320B to dowwnload the SMFlash.
I will see for a solution.
One think I dont understand. the launcher.exe is part of the ROM (?). So how can it be, that the file is corrupted? Error on flash memory? I just try to understand , is there a chance to repair or maybe after all
it is a hardware problem.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Jun 2010 20:10:02
Message:

"the launcher.exe is part of the ROM (?)"
Yes.
" So how can it be, that the file is corrupted?"
sometime ... its happens ... (bad luck)
"Error on flash memory?"
Yes. one (or more) bit/s was/where changed (from 1 to 0 or 0 to 1 ...)
"I just try to understand"
Every Flash has a 'retention data' = Time that information is stored correctly - usually 10 years ... sometimes lower ...
If you'll be able to reflash the firmware the device may work for another year or two.
"maybe after all it is a hardware problem."
(Almost) Every time your GPS freeze there is a hardware problem ... you don't have to worry about that - we have to figure out a way to live with that ...
(For example a DVD has thousand of memory errors - you wrote 1 and read 0 - or the other way -> but it works perfectly due to the error correction implemented ... read on Wikipedia ... about that).
Microsoft implemented TFAT (not used on this device ...) = Data is written into two places simultaneously - to be able to do an error correction (some Atlas platforms are using TFAT partition for Navigation software - and sometimes also for maps -).
You have to find one device locally ... to some third parties service places ... or Mio Service if is locally available ...


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 16 Jun 2010 20:43:36
Message:

g_alin,

I will try to find one. JTAG is no option for myself, then I need a professional support. Maybe is more easy (and cheaper)to find a new one. I check both way. In first case I will ask you for next steps. The using of DiskRW will be no problem after I read all 49 pages...
Thanks


Reply author: tompi70
Replied on: 18 Jun 2010 20:30:31
Message:

Hi g_alin,

I would like to ask Your help. I have a mio C720, it's stop at orange screen. I made a smFlash image from a working device. If I read right You could extract a firmware from the dump. Here is the link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/400451152/SMFlash_mioC720.zip.html
I will try it, after You extract. You could expand Your list with this wince image.
Thank You for Your help.

Regards,
tompi70


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 19 Jun 2010 05:22:22
Message:

tompi70,
C720_EEUT (R02.3.9913.1018) http://www.4shared.com/file/NNKvfU6C/C720_EEUT_ROM_R02399131018.html


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 19 Jun 2010 14:53:54
Message:

Hi g_alin
First of all I have little experience with Mio's but recently I had 2 of them (Navman S30 and Moov300) which gave error2 at appstartupsec level, so PC connection does not work. I located by jtag dump that each of them has in physical block 16 (17'th) page 1(block offset 0x1000) the LOCKEDUT string, I modified it in UNLOCKED and have rewritten the whole block. All was fine, reseting with an sd went into uboot menu, reflash was ok too. I hoped that I can avoid reflashing same block via jtag for user mode by using your tool (UPGRADE_APP_.exe)... but this doesn't happened. I assume that your tool is changing the string either in IPL (block0) or in uboot itself and not in the nand region as I did. Is there any chance to modify this tool to change the string in block16?

Edit: actually it works but reversed; superuser mode locks the device and user mode unlocks it...

2'nd edit: Now is clear, the string resides in the reserved area of smflash partition, some blocks before splash and usb screens, so it's easy to change it if system is working normally. Still, in the situation described above (when the system is not reacting to any sd card directory) the only solution to unlock remains jtag.

In case of need I can provide iBoot and uBoot for Navman S30-S50 and Moov300.


Reply author: Viktoras
Replied on: 20 Jun 2010 08:53:05
Message:

Hi #1077;#1097; all,
what about MioMoov380?Who has firmware to this device?


Reply author: tompi70
Replied on: 21 Jun 2010 21:22:45
Message:

g_alin: Thanks for the fast reply and help. The firmware seems like works fine, but I think my problem is the same as before. I'm in supermode and I can't change it. I tested the following:
-boot with sdcard -> blue mantas srceen
-boot without sdcard->orange mio startup screen
-boot with sdcard(upgrade mio)-> blue mantas screen, too
-put sdcard(upgrade mio)while booting->orange startup screen, too
What is working?
-I can reflash wince over mantas both, usb(dnw) or sdcard.
How could I change supermode to usermode? Could be modify this option in wince image? At least I need to use jtag(pin9)?
Thanks,
tompi70


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jun 2010 21:59:37
Message:

ablbd,
Maybe you can make a package with all the information/softwares/schematics available to JTAG a Mio (or Navman) ... very useful for 'not experimented' users to have all the information available in one place - one file.
Lets don't forget about 'boot from SDCard option' - not explored .. yet ... it could work ... also.

tompi70,
(I don't know if I understood right ... but) You have a device that is working OK but when you have the SDCard and do a Hardware Reset you enter into BlueScreen (and you don't want that ...).
Without SDCard inserted ... start the GPS; when you see the Main windows with MioMap ... insert the SDCard with software Upgrade on it; and choose NormalUser. (You have a standard MioMap3 firmware ... mioautorun.exe is started by lancher.exe when you insert the SDCard).


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 21 Jun 2010 22:56:06
Message:

@g_alin
Is not that easy because of different nands. As general software I am using SJF but I must adapt it to a particular nand (block size, page size, ID value) and include lots of options for that particular nand (ie block and spare area dumps in different files, block+spare area in same file, so). In most of cases the write function has to be modified too and/or include new write options, as full replacement of block content + spare area content. Many SJF sources have different parallel port pinnouts, probably signals are addapted to some commercial dongle. This is the reason why some compiled sjf's are not detecting the processor with a wiggler clone taken from internet... All in one, technically each device is requiring a different sjf so I'm spending about 2 hours to "adapt" it for that particular device. Maybe once I'm going to gather all those pieces and create a more universal jtag tool to handle a large variety of nands and all Samsung processors. The bad luck is that some devices are equipped with Atlas processors and up to now I wasn't able to find BSDL's for them...

'boot from SDCard option' - depends if eboot can handle it or not; the only way to find out is by disassembling eboot.

@tompi70
I had the same problem with upgrade tool but I noticed that it's working in reversed mode: superuser is locking the uboot menu and normaluser is unlocking it.


Reply author: dirtywolf
Replied on: 22 Jun 2010 07:12:00
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by ablbd
In case of need I can provide iBoot and uBoot for Navman S30-S50 and Moov300.



Hi,
I managed to completely brick my Navman S50, to the point where it sits at the "BIOS" boot screen rebooting itself. I have a friend preparing to jtag it, but don't have the files - can you please upload them somewhere/send them to me?

Thanks in advance,

-IB


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 22 Jun 2010 15:09:39
Message:

@ dirtywolf
I'm pretty sure that you will not need those files. You should first dump the block which is containing the lock code (string "LOCKEDUT"), normally located in physical block 16. Why normally? If inbetween there is a bad block, all blocks will be shifted towards higher numbers. Seccond step will be to change in a hexeditor the string to "UNLOCKED" (no quotes) and rewrite it in the same place. Then restart your device with an SD card and if enters into blue screen then simply reflash OS. After the next reset you should have PC connection as mass storage. You will need for this:
- a "Navman prepared" SJF, take it from here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SU0YB3G2
- Navman OS from this thead, works quite fine
- GIVEIO, which must be installed (sorry, I forgot to add this in package but should be no problem to find one...)

Step-by-step procedure:

1. check parallel port connections to wiggler; they must be: pin3-TMS, pin4-TCK, pin5-TDI, pin11-TDO
2. connect carefully the wires to Navman's jtag port: the one in a white square is TCK, next one TDI, then TDO and TMS; connect also a ground somewhere with larger space, not necessarily pin 6 of jtag port; don't connect nTRST!
3. attach the battery to navman, power it throgh USB and switch it ON
4. create a dummy file in the same directory where you have sjf2443, name it as you whish but must contain at least some bytes
5. run from command window sjf2443 /f:dummy
6. if everything is fine, it will detect the processor and comes up with a menu
7. enter the number shown for "K9G8G08 prog"
8. if nand ID is OK and is recognising it, another menu will show up
9. enter the number for option "K9g8g08 Dump Blocks" (if I recall well, 0)
10. "Input starting block number" : 16, "Input number of blocks to dump:" 1
11. Look with hexedit in Block_16_16.bin for the string LOCKEDUT; if exists, change it by overwring the string (in right pannel) with UNLOCKED; if not, repeat steps 9-10 for the next block (17, 1 block to dump); be sure that hexedit was NOT in insert mode by going to the file end: first free byte has to be 0x40000 !!!!
12 close sjf and reopen it but this time you will have the real file name (ie >sjf2443 /f:block_16_16.bin )
13 select again "K9G8G08 prog" and in second menu "K9g8g08 Program (128 pages)"
14 enter to "targetBlock" the block number where you actually found the LOCKEDUT string
15. after finishes reflashing, will come back to menu; select exit
16. switch device OFF, insert an SD (can be empty) and ON; in case of blue screen, disconnect the device from jtag and follow g_alin's instructions regarding OS reflashing

If something is not going well, return as much details as possible (processor id, nand id, copies of sjf messages)...

Good luck


PS: you can dump for fun also block 0, number of blocks: 5 but DON'T reflash this one under no circonstances. What you can do is to upload block_0_4.bin + OOB_0_4.bin, I will look into them.


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 22 Jun 2010 20:21:58
Message:

@ g_alin
here I am again. I got now a other good working device and copy with DiskRW the SMFlash to a 256MB SDcard.
you say "To explore that option you need to download the SMFlash using DiskRW as RAW to RAW data - this way the data will be copied one to one from SMFlash to SDCard and do a hardware reset with SDCard inserted ..."
So I take this to the non working device and try a hardreset. But nothing. Same like before start the device with the mio screen and run direcly to the error of launcher.exe. Do I something wrong or it mean " no chance?"


Reply author: Alexandru Popescu
Replied on: 22 Jun 2010 23:08:18
Message:

@ ablbd

Do you have any hints about Mio C220 and Hjatg? SJF? anything could help me? i tried to connect c220 directly to LPT and some how establish a connection with HTAG server (who did recognize the CPU)and NOIce but that's it.Also i have tried different types of SJF who appears to upload some bin files to the device but i'm afraid that was not the right bootloader. I'm stuck and i have no clue how to revive the little gizmo.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 23 Jun 2010 06:31:20
Message:

@Alexandru Popescu
Sorry, I don't have iboot & eboot for c220. Same comment as 2 posts before: you shouldn't rewrite boot files. If you did it, little chances to restart this device unless someone will dump the boot files from a same type.
I have no experience with other programs because I prefere to have control of what I'm doing. sjf source codes are available, so I'm modifying them according my needs.

BTW, unbuffered connection to test points is risky, better use a wiggler.


Reply author: hixpp02
Replied on: 23 Jun 2010 12:49:12
Message:

Hi,

I have a Mio moov 310 (model N179), with "appstartupsec.exe" problem.
The idea with the reflash of the firmware it's the only possible way to get back the device.
I can't find any firmware for this device, please somebody help me.
Thank You.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Jun 2010 17:37:45
Message:

thomas_2,
make o copy of your card with HxD and upload it somewhere (preferably ziped ...).
I will try (probably next week ...) to change the firmware ... to check if boots from SDCard or from Flash.

ablbd,
C220 does't have the LOCKEDUT settings available in SMFlash ... is stored somewhere in a hided part of the flash (I don't know where) ...
I was thinking if you can provide the SJF and schematic in a package for your device device ... it will be a start for others ... with one page of instructions ...


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 23 Jun 2010 20:01:16
Message:

g_alin

here is the link: http://ul.to/5xiiso
I think this image is new also for your first page, dont see there an image vor the C320B.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 23 Jun 2010 23:15:35
Message:

quote:

C220 does't have the LOCKEDUT settings available in SMFlash ... is stored somewhere in a hided part of the flash (I don't know where) ...
I was thinking if you can provide the SJF and schematic in a package for your device device ... it will be a start for others ... with one page of instructions ...



Is true, Mio C's have one instance of "LOCKEDUT" in iboot and the second one in uboot.

I'm not really encouraging this jtag stuff because a chaotic intervention will brick for good and all the device.
As I told before, I owe several devices but none is Mio, all of them have Sirf Atlas processors.

Anyone interested can find on web good wiggler schematics in less then 5 minutes but I reccomend to buy a ready one: is not expensive and is much safer. Regarding instructions, I just made them some posts before with a link to a modified SJF; this one will work on any sc2443x equipped with K9G8G08 or K9G4G08 nand, as most of Moovs3xx are. The other nands from list can be used too but I made no changes in their source codes and may not function correctly.


Reply author: tony_roti
Replied on: 25 Jun 2010 17:19:53
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by a33pul

thanks g_alin here are the info
my gps is a chineese version
4.3" SAMSUNG400MHz/GPS+Bluetooth+MAP+MP4+2G Card/SP-43A
romversion:18.jx.4.bf.1.4.2.8
processor: arm920t
ram size: 64mb
software version: 2.08
sirflll
i dont know how to up grade but my first concern is to get the gps back in order, no screen at all. when i soft reset it only the logo comes on



Hi there

I have purchased a CNS Moon BT GPS (second hand):
4.3" SAMSUNG400MHz/GPS+Bluetooth+MAP+MP4+2G Card/SP-43A
romversion:18.jx.4.bf.1.4.2.8
processor: arm920t
ram size: 64mb
Did you succeed to find rom file for this model? If you do please tell me because i have serious problems with this model. Sometimes it restarts (hard reset) by itself and it power on by itself. very annoying.
Thanks.
Best regard Antonel


Reply author: miricaiulian
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 05:37:59
Message:

Hi !

A few days ago, my Mio Moov 330 (European) stopped working (Fatal Application Error => AppStartupSec.exe)
So no more USB connection. After this message, everything was freezed.

I searched and found this 9th PIN method.

I opened the back cover, and connected the wire as asked on the forum.
So I got the blue upgrade screen and did the normal steps.

0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off then on

It says

Waiting !!
BOOTSEC is in Sector 135!
MountDisk SUCCESS !
Open CE image...
Checksum: 0x3fb69302
Writing CE image
BINFS img

Read progress: 100%

And it doesn't seem to do anyting more than that.
Is that it? Is the upgrade finished?

Can you help me?

Thank you


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 08:12:56
Message:

No. After that it should upgrade the splash screen and write a message to reset device.


Reply author: miricaiulian
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 08:35:39
Message:

I found the solution. On page 34, barmaley77 had the same problem. He went in "Other tools" and 8=Format. After the format was done, I tried the upgrade again and it was successful.

Now I can connect it to the PC, the USB works :)

But beeing in Romania for the summer holidays I can't install the MioMore desktop DVD, because I left it home in Belgium.
Can someone give me a link or a solution ? It was MioMore desktop 2009 for the Moov 330 Europe.

Thanks again ;)


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 09:06:57
Message:

@miricaiulian
As a temporary solution: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SJPGJVXS
This is an unlock which doesn't requiring region id's or serials. Copy everything on flash and add a navi...


Reply author: miricaiulian
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 09:42:49
Message:

Thank you very much ablbd ;)

I copied everything on the Flash memory and it works.

I still have a problem, as soon I insert my SD card (with IGO8 on it) the blue upgrade screen appears. How can i make it disappear now that I solved my problem?

On the first page, I read that after I would have installed MioMore Desktop and restarted the GPS a choice screen would have appeared. The choices = USERMODE and SUPERMODE

I had no choice screen with this unlocker.

Can you help me to get rid of the blue screen ?


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 09:57:53
Message:

I mentioned this issue some posts before; download g_alin's Upgrade_Mio, copy on sd the files from \Upgrade\w_coredll\ then run the exe. If usermode doesn't solve blue screen, select superuser...


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 15:55:01
Message:

hi to all , i have my mio moov m300 and blocked at startup screen, i tried to leave device on for a few days to discharge battery but with no sucess.i was reading instructions of you guys with short connect ic pin 9 to ground and got blue screen , i tried base ce upgrade by usb (format) and send winceimg.bin via dnw but it is not valid img. where could i get firmware for mio m300,???
help please!!


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 20:51:26
Message:

@daniel1605
I had once same issue with a moov300 so I got angry and I flashed it with moov330. Works perfectly ;)


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 21:54:14
Message:

@ablbd
hi!! i just tried ,when i send winceimg.bin via dnv it say:unknown img type reset device... i tried MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1.00.0019


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 21:58:29
Message:

should i try uboot upgrade???
it is moov m300
device is without sd/mmc slot


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 26 Jun 2010 23:18:28
Message:

Well, that moov300 had sd slot so I upgrade it from sd.
I suggest to stay away from uboot, leave it as it is.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Jun 2010 20:32:02
Message:

thomas_2,
I changed the Launcher.exe with FileManCE.exe ... try to boot from SDCard if you see the same Launcher.exe error or you see the filemance starting.
http://www.4shared.com/file/rc4B17T4/new_SMFlash.html

tony_roti,
I don't have any firmware for this device ... (the first time I ever heard about it ...)

daniel1605,
don't upgrade uboot ... its VERY dangerous. Try to find somewhere (locally) an identical device to download the SMFlash.img


Reply author: tompi70
Replied on: 28 Jun 2010 21:37:02
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin


tompi70,
(I don't know if I understood right ... but) You have a device that is working OK but when you have the SDCard and do a Hardware Reset you enter into BlueScreen (and you don't want that ...).
Without SDCard inserted ... start the GPS; when you see the Main windows with MioMap ... insert the SDCard with software Upgrade on it; and choose NormalUser. (You have a standard MioMap3 firmware ... mioautorun.exe is started by lancher.exe when you insert the SDCard).


Dear g_alin,
Sorry for my bad english. My device doesn't boot up complete. I can't get to Main windows, stuck at the orange "MIO digiwalker" screen. I have no idea what can I do


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Jun 2010 22:26:07
Message:

tompi70,
lets wait for thomas_2 response ... if will be able to boot from SDCard I will change a SMFlash also for your C720, to start filemanCE.


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 28 Jun 2010 23:11:53
Message:

g_alin,
I copy your new_smflash to my SDcard. HxD give me an CRC error on the first one with the image I send to you.
So I try a other card without problems. But the broken device boot to the launcher.exe error again. I try the running one , here I have with the old image and also with the one you change for me a Message "Error Mantas 415A - missing mainshell" and freeze. So it looks like the running one try to boot, but the broken one ignore the SD. Or do I something wrong? Just open the file and the disk, copy and paste write. Then save.
I will try tomorrow again. How the device know, if the smflash is to use from ROM or SD?


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 28 Jun 2010 23:20:58
Message:

mr g_alin
how should i download software from other device, it with mio more desktop?
i will try to find some.
thanks


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 Jun 2010 01:17:47
Message:

thomas_2,
"Error Mantas 415A - missing mainshell" is not good ... but the good news is that something changed with the SDCard with MS_BINFS on it ...
(I assume that) The device is checking the SDCard to see if the SDCard is boot-able with a MS_BINFS partition ... if it is its loading the data from SDCard (not from Flash ...) ... but I don't know for sure ... is only a supposition.

Later edit:
I think you are using the old firmware ... and you think is the new firmware ...
This message is written by Launcher.exe (are you sure is not: "Missing Mainshell !! Error:Mantas415A") and I removed the Launcher.exe from firmware so ... you shouldn't get this error !? Am I right?
Please double check again ...

daniel1605,
You need to have an unlocked device (to have access to wince) and use the DiskRW to download the SMFlash.img ... search on this thread after DISKRW and you'll find the information how to do that... after that upload the file somewhere ...


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 29 Jun 2010 07:03:16
Message:

g_alin,
the missing mainshell message is on the working device with SDCard inside. It is a gray message box, the title bar is "Error::Mantas 415A" and the message text is "Missing Mainshell !!". (Just for test, if the SD is working)
On the old (broken) device, nothing is change. The MIO startscreen is running into the launcher.exe error.
I have delete the SDCard partition again and write your smflash to the SD with HxD. Then is there a new 22MB partition and a rest of unused space. So I am nearly 100% sure it is the new one. I have to go to my jobside now. I can try in the evening again. Is there something special to make a SD bootable?

EDIT:
I test again.It is like I write before.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 Jun 2010 18:35:10
Message:

thomas_2
"Is there something special to make a SD bootable?" - No. I hoped that will try to boot from SDCard automatically ... now I doubt that is going to boot from SDCard (by him self ...) - maybe after changing some jumper or connection...
U-Boot its a boot manager used for Linux and WindowsCE that is able to start an OS from any media (including SDCard and MMC). But how much of the U-Boot was implemented (or the version used by Mitac ...) I don't know ... they may use an older (or modified one) ... and some of the features may be removed ...
Another way to communicate with (standard) U-Boot is serial communication ... S3C2443 has two UARTs (lets call them serial ports ...) depending on the U-Boot that way of communication can be implemented ...Very important: You need to have electronics knowledge and some equipment to make this experiments (lake voltmeter, scope ...). If you have that I can give you more details on how to check if the serial communication is available.


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 29 Jun 2010 18:58:53
Message:

g_alin
I think it is not worthy. It was a small chance to repair over firmware or your other good ideas. But I have buy the second one for 9.36 Euro on ebay ;-), just to have one to copy the firmware and to try to repair the old one. This type cx20 was important for me, because it was easy to running the gps all over the world and I have all the software for this.If I stay with my wife in Taiwan, only change the SD and it works with MioMap TW. the knowledge and the equipment will not be the problem, maybe. But the time to do this.
I thank you very much to spend your time to help me.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 Jun 2010 19:03:44
Message:

thomas_2,
watch this thread maybe we find a trick (like pin9 for Moov) also for C series to enter into Upgrade Screen ...


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 29 Jun 2010 19:47:51
Message:

g_alin
yes, I will do that.


Reply author: soulraven
Replied on: 30 Jun 2010 06:05:40
Message:

hy, i have upgrade the firmware on a MIO Moov 330, but now i can't escape the BLUE screen, when i insert the card and restart or poweroff, the BLUE screean reapears. How i remove this now?


Reply author: ManOLCZ
Replied on: 30 Jun 2010 07:42:37
Message:

Dear g_alin,I would like to ask you for favor.I have MIO C710 navigation and I made ROM DUMP and I would like to ask you for rom dump conversion into flashable ROM image.Could you do it for me,please?Thank you in advance for your time.Here is the link for dump:
(LINK TO DUMP REMOVED - IT WAS ALREADY CONVERTED BY G_ALIN - see page 53)
Regards,
ManOL - Martin


Reply author: nitpicker
Replied on: 30 Jun 2010 13:30:41
Message:

Hi,
Can anybody help me with the uboot.bin and uboot.cks for the Mio Moov 200? After flashing the firmware it won't start anymore. It only displays the new firmware version and hangs with small stripes on the screen.
Thanks in advance.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Jun 2010 18:12:12
Message:

soulraven,
Insert the SDCard with upgrade screen (or start manually the software 'SDCard\UPGRADE\w_coredll\cUPGRADE_APP_.exe') and press 'SuperUser' button.
Be aware: If your GPS is freazing (due to Appstartup.exe application) you are not going to be able to enter in BLUE SCREEN ... (read the last two pages from this thread ...). I recommend everyone to left that BLUE SCREEN active all the time ... this way you will be able to recover your GPS not matter what you do with appStartup ... or other application that give you access to USB connection.

nitpicker,
Why do you need uboot? can you enter into BlueScreen?


Reply author: nitpicker
Replied on: 30 Jun 2010 18:31:23
Message:

Hi g_alin,
Yes, I still can access the BlueScreen with all the options (0-5). Do you mean nothing is 'broken' in the uboot section?

Hmmm... I flashed it again, now with the Moov200_EU (Cobia_300_32) (ROM_V1.00.0019) .. and now it works... Now I don't get it anymore....

I first had flashed it with the MOOV200_EU N177 (ROM_V1.00.0030), I have a "Model No.: N177" so I thought I needed the N177 version..!?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Jun 2010 20:02:19
Message:

nitpicker,
uboot is the 'software that shows the BlueScreen' ... is better to don't touch that software (... unless you really know what you doing ...).
The wince OS is winceimg.bin ... you can change that with confidence (especially if you left the BlueScreen access open all the time ... ;) ).
Regarding firmware versions ... try all Moov200 versions and choose the one that you like most ... (and works ...).


Reply author: nitpicker
Replied on: 30 Jun 2010 21:21:05
Message:

Thanks for replying! The only one that works for me is the original V1.00.0019.. so, I will leave it with that :)
Thanks again!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Jun 2010 23:40:33
Message:

ManOLCZ,
enjoy: http://www.4shared.com/file/D2JenqM-/C710_R30F3122721.html
let me know if it works.


Reply author: ManOLCZ
Replied on: 01 Jul 2010 07:26:21
Message:

Excellent work,g_alin.Thank you very much!It works!
Regards,
ManOLCZ


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 03 Jul 2010 16:47:00
Message:

mr g-alin
is it possible to get smflash.img from winceimg.bin??


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 06 Jul 2010 22:10:38
Message:

daniel1605,
usually NO.
The SMFlash contains all the information from that partition (some have the bootloader or some other information - like Region, .... ).
But May I ask Why do you need the to convert winceimg.bin to SMFlash? Do you want to make a bootable SDCard?


Reply author: qsenc
Replied on: 07 Jul 2010 13:00:18
Message:

Hi,

i have a Mio N179 and i CAN'T get the blue screen. i tryed the both methods, one with ping 9 shorted and the one with sd card. My chip is cobia 400.

when i shot pin 9 i get just a blank screen and mio not starting.


Reply author: czoran
Replied on: 09 Jul 2010 19:03:49
Message:

Hello to all GPS friends!

Could anyone here, especially Mr g_alin help me recovering my Mio Moov M300 by converting SMFlash to WinCEimg?

I had problem with no USB connection and already tried all tricks with discharging, etc. Nothing helped. I succeeded to put it into blue upgrade screen via pin 9 trick.

Here is link to SMFlash image from another identical device:
http://www.4shared.com/file/lBRS8Rj6/Mio_Moov_M300_SMFlash.html

Thank you.

Regards,
Zoran


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 11 Jul 2010 14:34:12
Message:

g_alin,
i was wrong ,i thought that i need to put SMFlash in device becouse device is without mem card slot.
device didnt accept winceimg from other device like moov 360.i missunderstood you when you typed that i need SMFlash. i was wrong.

czoran,
same problem ,i dont have knowledge about wince to make winceimg,tnx for sharing file!

sory for bad eng.

thank you!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Jul 2010 04:10:43
Message:

czoran,
I have some difficulties extracting the firmware. I was surprised by the fact that (apparently) are two wince OSs on that partition. I let you know when I have more time to dig out.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 13 Jul 2010 07:16:59
Message:

g_alin
Some quick notes on czoran's dump, may help you to solve the mistery.
-1'st OS is placed in the reserved area of partition, 2'nd at partition start
-in reserved area is no logo image, only the usb image (16bit color)
-in 2'nd OS it is a logo but 32bit color !!
-strangely in 2'nd OS here-and-there are several navi pictures, some of them mirrored(16bit color)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Jul 2010 18:58:01
Message:

ablbd,
that bring another question: Why there are two? If there are two: How can we make it boot on the first OS. Is possible to have first OS as the bootloader (it would be a very nice good looking bootloader ...) I really doubt about that ... probably there is a "switch" somewhere ...
Can someone post the bootloaer menu items ... maybe we figure out from there of something.
Based on the HEADER side (the one used to write the image into flash) the second Os is the one written by bootloader.


Reply author: czoran
Replied on: 13 Jul 2010 18:58:39
Message:

Thank you friends!
Hopefully you will be able to do something and solve this mistery.
Finally m300 will be defeated. There are lot of these here in Croatia.
In the meantime I tried almost all available firmwares from this thread and no success.
I am looking for Spirit firmware of 64MB but all I have are 128.

Regards,
Zoran


Reply author: czoran
Replied on: 13 Jul 2010 19:24:26
Message:

Hello,

Here is how blue screen looks:

TATA300STF64_R01_0429 MLC 2G

0=Base & Region CE Upgrade
1=GPS Tools
2=BT Tools
3=Base CE Upgrade
4=UBOOT Upgrade
5=Memory Tools
6=Other Tools
7=TestMode Tools

Submenu 0:
0=Base & Region by USB (format)
1=Base & Region by USB
2=Base & Region by SD/MMC (Format)
3=Base & Region by SD/MMC
4=Exit

Submenu 3:
0=Base by USB (Format)
1=Base by USB
2=Base by SD/MMC (Format)
3=Base by SD/MMC
4=Exit

Submenu 4:
0=UBOOT by USB
1=UBOOT by SD/MMC
2=Exit

Submenu 6:
0=CPLD Upgrade by SD/MMC
1=CPLD Upgrade by USB
2=Read CPLD user code
3=CPLD Upgrade by SD/MMC (Inverse)
4=CPLD Upgrade by USB (Inverse)
5=Read CPLD user code (Inverse)
6=Download & Run
7=Nand Tools
8=Format
9=Exit

If you need anything else I will be glad to provide. Maybe compressed files from flash drive from donor (good) device?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Jul 2010 22:24:39
Message:

czoran,
try first this winceimg:
http://www.4shared.com/file/jwOx-wHQ/winceimg_temp.html
inside are winceimg and region .... try first only Base upgrade (winceimg files).
If the Base upgrade doesn't work let me know ...
The Region is extracted also ... but I am not sure is the right one ... If you want to play with it also and doesn't work let me know also ... I can give you some other options.
But the Base upgrade should be enough for you to recover your GPS (if your GPS has the same Region with the one used to download the SMFlash.img).
I don't need the files from flash ... from OS point of view, the GPS should work with or without them on flash.

Later Edit:
(I may be wrong) but: how can you upgrade by SDCard if you don't have SDCard? (I checked on-line spec.: http://eu.mio.com/en_eu/moov-m300_more-from-mio.htm). Do I miss something?

Later Edit_2:
can someone confirm that: Internal RAM memory = 128MB
Are you sure is not 64 MB!?


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 14 Jul 2010 00:35:05
Message:

THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!
I JUST SEND WINCEIMG VIA DNW (BASE CE UPGRADE) AND IT WORKS !!!
NOW I CAN SEE DEVICE AS STORAGE DEVICE.
I TRIED TO RESTORE SOFTWARE AND MAPS WITH MIO MORE DESKTOP BUT I CANT CLCIK (reinstall software on your mio)BUTTON UNDER TOOLS SECTION,IT IS INACTIVE


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Jul 2010 02:30:27
Message:

daniel1605,
(if you have the original DVD) you should be able to copy (using Windows Explorer) the folder from DVD (same folder that is copied by the MioMore Desktop ...).
Sorry but I don't use Mio More Desktop ... and I don't have a moov device to try ...
ALSO:
can someone confirm that: Internal RAM memory = 128MB OR 64MB

one more question:
How did you enter into BlueScreen - UPGRADE MODE? pin9 trick?


Reply author: czoran
Replied on: 14 Jul 2010 06:53:12
Message:

Hello,

Thank you for great work. I will try it later when I am back home from work.

Device has no SD/MMC slot. But software is probably the same as from some other device which has memory card. That's why I wanted to try some Spirit images first. I could find only Spirit with 128MB, but my device has 64. And I found string spirit inside smflash image.

Pin9 trick worked from several attempts. Best way is to have sewing needle wrapped with thin wire. Other end of the wire should be wrapped around USB port for GND. Then connect needle to pin 9 and turn on device. It needs some pratice but it worked.

Regards,
Zoran


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 14 Jul 2010 20:42:00
Message:

That's funny. In the region file following image http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r253/ablbd_2003/splash-2.png apears twice

BTW, for viewing pictures inside nb0 binaries, use this small tool I wrote http://www.megaupload.com/?d=50JNXCOT


Reply author: czoran
Replied on: 14 Jul 2010 21:09:02
Message:

Hello,

Here is newest update from me. Just tried images from g_alin and no success.

First I uploaded wince with "wince base" option. It went fine and device has USB enabled. MioMore Desktop could not recognize device. I then copied original files from donor device and Mio software orange splash appeared but always restarting.
Seems that region must be uploaded too. But it is expected to be in same file along with wince. If I try to choose "base and region upgrade by usb (format)" and point to wince it is complaining about incorrect size. If I point it to region file it uploads it and then complain that there is no wince image.

Could I merge that two files in hex editor and flash it?

I found dnw software vesion 1.01 which has option to read out flash from device. I tried it and entered range from 0x000000 to 0xffffff and got 16MB file with all ff inside. I thought maybe I could clone donor device completely...but I do not know ranges.

Ablbd, very good program! Thank you.


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 14 Jul 2010 21:30:15
Message:

hi.
i found files on original cd and used them(thanksw for advice),restarted, recalibration ok restarted ,and same problm as czorans , device keep restarting.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 15 Jul 2010 06:36:46
Message:

@czoran
DNW is requiring virtual addresses. Nand physical 0 is mapped to 0x30000000,
so try 0x30000000 to 0x38000000

You should get more than diskrw is able to dump: 1'st block:iboot, 3'rd block uboot and several blocks after OS. Block size = 0x1000(newer nands) or 0x800 for older ones. Anyway for block size is better to look into nand's data sheet.

Edit: block size is important only if you want to replace uboot via DNW because you have to specify the vitual download address(ie block size 0x1000, 3'd block's VA=0x30002000)

BTW, could you give a link to this new DNW?


Reply author: czoran
Replied on: 15 Jul 2010 21:31:59
Message:

Hello,

Whatever addresses I try I am always getting empty file. Must be something else that I need to adjust. Do I have to be in blue screen also for reading flash?
If I do not activate menu "upgrade" I can not connect with dnw.

Here are the links. Forget Chinese or Korean letters. Just download everything and try until you get new version.

Please make following link in one line:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/mobilesocProductDown.do?userId=pq.wang%40besovideo.com

http://just4you.springnote.com/pages/1052614

Thank you all again for support and help.


Reply author: desimtor
Replied on: 15 Jul 2010 22:49:13
Message:

g_alin,

Can you please take a look at the SMFlash.img file uploaded in this thread http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?whichpage=6&TOPIC_ID=127063#952610 and let us know if RomMasterCE can be used to reduce the size the operating system takes when loaded into RAM. Right now the system reserves 14Mb - is this possible also to be reduced.

Thank you.


Reply author: palorep
Replied on: 16 Jul 2010 09:00:11
Message:

hello
mam Moov 200 V1.00.0030 original rom. I downloaded firmware for the N177 MOOV200_EU (ROM_V1.00.0030) mio does not work after installing the display shows a small ball of it. When I installed Moov200_EU (Cobia_300_32) (ROM_V1.00.0019) so it works but when loaded MioMap 2008 will come before the end of the three sticks so to repeat the round restarts.
Thank you for helping


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 16 Jul 2010 11:07:49
Message:

palorep
reload the map from mio moredesktop


Reply author: palorep
Replied on: 16 Jul 2010 12:43:22
Message:

done but still accrue when MioMap stops before the end of three sticks and goes on again and then restart


Reply author: palorep
Replied on: 16 Jul 2010 12:45:37
Message:

I do not know why the firmware does not work when ROM_V1.00.0030 was so original and the second ROM_V1.00.0019 works


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Jul 2010 22:23:19
Message:

palorep,
Maybe you don't have space on My Flash Disk to load the MioMap2008 software + maps .... You can check that ...

czoran,
http://www.4shared.com/file/OjcoAkTH/testM300.html
do upgrade Base + Region with DNW

ablbd,
Very nice software ... :)


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 16 Jul 2010 22:40:23
Message:

galin good news
i made to fix a mio 330 with bluescreen.
i will send you the solution in a while to put it in first page.

ok this is the solution for mio moov 330 for upgrade screen.
first make a short between pin 12(vcc)and pin 19 (write protect).
we must to make this for chance the write protection mode.
then put the power button from reset to on for 4-5 sec
then put the power to reset.
then make a short between pin 9 and gnd and put power button to on.
then you see the blue screen.

thanks my friend hackerland1 from greece who explane to me what mean the simpols (WP)on dataseet


Reply author: palorep
Replied on: 17 Jul 2010 05:46:35
Message:

the program did not help me in my problem. But I did unlock and now I'm running IGO8. But even so, I would like launched MioMap.
Is there any rom MOOV200 for N177?


Reply author: Alexandru Popescu
Replied on: 17 Jul 2010 08:52:49
Message:

g_alin

on early post you said "S3C2443 has two UARTs (lets call them serial ports ...) depending on the U-Boot that way of communication can be implemented".
Can you tell me how i can implement a communication with S3C2440?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 17 Jul 2010 08:55:11
Message:

palorep
try to put your miomap program and the map in your sd.then try to run the program from sd


Reply author: nutty
Replied on: 18 Jul 2010 05:27:04
Message:

g_alin, Would you have any information for a N191 Mio knightrider with KiTT V1 9750 firmware upgrade?
thanks in advance....


Reply author: nutty
Replied on: 18 Jul 2010 05:31:34
Message:

g_alin, Would you have any info on firmware with a n191 mio knightrider with KITT v1 9750. Thanks in advance for your time.


Reply author: nutty
Replied on: 20 Jul 2010 01:15:37
Message:

would anyone have an update firmware with instruction for a N191, mio knightrider? thanks advance for your help.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 Jul 2010 01:31:56
Message:

srelioskoz,
you are talking about mio moov 330?
lets double check:
"Step 1: first make a short between pin 12(vcc)and pin 19 (write protect)." Can you tell me the IC name? "so we do that to chance the write protection mode." Am I right?
"Step 3: then put the power button from RESET to ON for 4-5 seconds"
"Step 4: then put the power to RESET."
"Step 5: then make a short between pin 9 and GND and put power button to ON." GND is pin number ....? and also what IC?
"FINALLY: then you see the blue screen."

Alexandru Popescu,
The two UARTs are used for:
1. GPS communication
2. TMC communication
You have to find out where are available those communication points.
The chances are small (for uboot to send any signal dooring boot ...) but you can try.
Sometimes the TMC has a four wires connection available on PCB -> those can be accessible also for DEBUGing (it is only a supposition).
BTW: you need a scope to check those serial connection.

nutty,
I don't have any firmware for n191 mio knightrider with KITT v1 9750.
This device has the bootloader accessible?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 20 Jul 2010 07:49:03
Message:

galin
yes this is the right way.
all mio moov memory ic samsung dataseet are the same (48pin with the same functions .for example pin 9 chip enable,pin 12vcc,pin 19 write protect) . .the name is differend.
http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/datasheets/qi_lb60/U9~K9GAG08U0M~~2GB-FINAL_NAND-NOT_ON_SOME_PROTOTYPES~~.pdf
do you remember before one month when i told you for moov 200?
i think i made this way from luck and i saw the blue screen.
gnd is not pin.it is a metallic place on application.
but the problem is that i dont rememper the name of ic because i gave it back.
if some one try it on his damage upplication,let us know about it.i have seen many people in this forum with problems on mio moov 200 ,300,330.
i think this is the way for all mio moov applications.
maybe for all applications with samsung memory ic 48pin.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 20 Jul 2010 22:25:27
Message:

Thank you srelioskoz, first page updated.


Reply author: platijet
Replied on: 20 Jul 2010 23:09:12
Message:

Can this method help to solve that problem ??? : http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=136368


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jul 2010 02:39:51
Message:

platijet,
please check on your PC: Start \ Control Panel \ System ... Tab Hardware ... button Device Manager and tell me where is your device? on the USB section?


Reply author: platijet
Replied on: 21 Jul 2010 09:02:37
Message:

No, it's not under "Universal Serial Bus controllers". It is under "Windows CE USB Devices" and detected as "Mio Digiwalker USB sync"


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Jul 2010 19:04:37
Message:

platijet,
try to use "Mio Transfer Hack C250" (you can find it on the internet ...) - this software works with C220/C250 and those one are also Windows CE USB Devices.
check this http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?Topic_ID=84734 thread for details how to use the software.


Reply author: platijet
Replied on: 21 Jul 2010 21:02:09
Message:

Allready done. It didn't help, it seems that for M300 there is another program.


Reply author: stany
Replied on: 23 Jul 2010 10:17:28
Message:

i made a big mistake :|.... i try to upgrade screen but every time was an eror not enough memory...and i give FORMAT from OTHER TOOLS menu and my gps doesn't start anymore the screen is black ....sry for my english...please help me ..thanks


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 23 Jul 2010 11:58:51
Message:

stany
is your sd inside your mio?
what is your mio?is it mio moov?


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 23 Jul 2010 12:14:02
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by stany

i made a big mistake :|.... i try to upgrade screen but every time was an eror not enough memory...and i give FORMAT from OTHER TOOLS menu and my gps doesn't start anymore the screen is black ....sry for my english...please help me ..thanks



I have the same problem and tryed reloading from miomore desktop but the option to reload the software is shaded out so has anyone been able to resolve this? Thanks

Sorted new installer on mio site


Reply author: stany
Replied on: 23 Jul 2010 12:25:11
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by srelioskoz

stany
is your sd inside your mio?
what is your mio?is it mio moov?



yes my SD card is inside..is mio mov 200


Reply author: priest77
Replied on: 23 Jul 2010 12:54:20
Message:

Can I flash the firmware from "Moov200_EU (Cobia_300_32) (ROM_V1.00.0019)" in my mio moov 200 Cobia_300_64_NA?
I can't find the firmware for my american version of mio moov 200 with 64 ram.
Does any body know where I can find firmware for my mio moov 200 Cobia_300_64_NA?


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 23 Jul 2010 17:55:48
Message:

Did Found some information about the samsung 2443 cpu

maybe it give some solutions

found here http://www.mediafire.com/?g98qdyuctf8nalk


Reply author: czoran
Replied on: 23 Jul 2010 21:29:15
Message:

Hello,
Thank you g_alin for latest flash image, but unfortunately I can not try it.
Somehow I can not power on my device any more. Tried with another battery, charging overnight, pin9... Dead. I was not touching it for few days after I discovered that it is restarting all the time. I suspect it is hardware fault. Maybe flash chip.

Any hints are welcome.

BR


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 25 Jul 2010 12:05:37
Message:

g_alin what mean this message in mio moov 330?
waiting!!
BOOTSEC is in sector 233!!
MountDisk SUCCESS!
Open Region image...
Can not find REGION.CKS



Write Region Fail! Please Retry!
Any Key To continue


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 25 Jul 2010 19:50:08
Message:

Hi,
i also tried latest flash for M300
base ce upgrade
base by usb(format):
writing ce image...
unknown image type
any key to continue
restart your device

and also tried:
Base & Region ce upgrade
Base & Region by usb (format):

Region image filesize overflow.

any key to continue.


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 26 Jul 2010 15:46:44
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by kener

Did Found some information about the samsung 2443 cpu

maybe it give some solutions

found here http://www.mediafire.com/?g98qdyuctf8nalk



Hi Kener hope you can help me I see you have a Moov 370 I have a problem reloading the original software to mine ,have you ever used the miomore desktop to reload the original soft as I tried to do this with it but the option to reload is shaded also tried by usb and the soft is showing on the drive but no application will start I just get the mio orange screen and the usb cable screen.Any assitance appreciated Thanks John


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 26 Jul 2010 19:56:24
Message:

John Dough

If the moov has a reloaded rom file it starts with
the usb connection and if you connect it to a pc
with explorer you will find a flash disk with only the file device.xml

this file have some info inside ,device id, skuid, and more

the skuid number is the region and version number of the software that will be installed and needs to be inside the miomore software to function.

if you have a copy of the flash disk just copy it back and it works.

need a email adres to give more info, a pm her on the site do not work.

PS:
Strange to see that the usb connection works with a empty flash disk
as there are people that have no more usb connection after playing with the appstartup file ?


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 27 Jul 2010 18:48:10
Message:

Thanks for your reply the email pms have been suspended here and I don't think I am allowed to post a email addy in a open forum.

I have reloaded all the original files back to the mio by USB and although they all show up in the correct folders it still will not start up ,all I get is the orange screen and then it shows a usb lead has to be connected did that and the transfer folders float about as if connected correctly so a really weird one this as it seems something has gone astray during the backup .
I compared all the folders etc. in the Mio with the backup copy and they all match okay but there is obviously something missing.
any help appreciated.

PS forgot to say it has the following rom:cobiat 420 v001 00 0029 if that means anything.Cheers



Reply author: kener
Replied on: 27 Jul 2010 19:46:53
Message:

John Dough

If you can make a SMFlash image
and if g_alin have time to make a rom from it.

I try to get the rom working on my moov 370


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Jul 2010 03:23:50
Message:

srelioskoz
did you tried to write Base and Region? For that you need to have 4 files on the SDCard: winceimg.bin, winceimg.cks, region.bin and region.cks.
Probably you don't ave those files on the SDCard ...

daniel1605,
please tell me (remind me) what files did you used with Base & Region ce upgrade (Don't use Format ... could be dangerous in some cases).

John Dough,
let me know if you find the SMFlash.img for your device...


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 28 Jul 2010 14:06:03
Message:

Hi Guyz,

I found a unlock program and it unlocked the unit so now I have the desktop but when I try to load say Igo8 on a SD card it says it can't find ST smart and bombs out.

I can see tthe original moov soft on the flash disk but this won't load either.

Can someone guide me how to add new gps software to this unit?
thanks


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 28 Jul 2010 20:31:27
Message:

g-alin you was right.
but now a new problem

the mio moov 330 application is from other guy and i speak with him with messages

Waiting!! BOOTSEC is in Sector 233!!
MountDisk SUCCESS!
Open CEimage...
Checksum: 0x43a048e6
Writing CE image...



Unknown image type
Any key to continue


Read Progress :100%

he have tryed all 3 firmwares and the same problem


the upgrade screen is like this
0=Base & Region CE Upgrade
1=GPS Tools
2=BT Tools
3=Base CE Upgrade
4=UBOOT Upgrade
5=Memory Tools
6=Other Tools

0=Base by SD/MMC (Format)
1-Base by SD/MMC
2=Base by USB (Format)
3=Base by USB
4=Exit

he try 3 and then 0


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 28 Jul 2010 20:47:05
Message:

Hi to all,

@g_alin
You have made new smflashimg, look at page 54.
link to file http://www.4shared.com/file/OjcoAkTH/testM300.html
i tested file and no luck.


Reply author: stany
Replied on: 28 Jul 2010 20:48:15
Message:

Any ideeas about my problem?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Jul 2010 21:49:20
Message:

srelioskoz,
this menu is like Spirit's menu -> probably the hardware changed (is not like Moov_330_Cobia_410_EEU_V1.00.0000 that we have the firmware). Can you find a SMFlash from an identical device (to check the differences ...)?
Is possible to need to have 4 files (2 x winceimg and 2 x region ) ... I don't know for now ... let me know if you find the SMFlash of this device.

daniel1605
please try this one ... (sorry ... but will be a long set of 'tryings' until we figure out the right format ... I hope you'll manage to help us with patience).
http://www.4shared.com/file/ojzm_21Q/testM300_1.html

stany,
have you tried the new method (Pin9 + GND ....) of entering into BlueScreen (that works also with Moov220)? - check first page


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 28 Jul 2010 23:00:53
Message:

g_alin

ok i asked him to tell me the firmware of his aplication when it starts up with black screen
this is the numper of black screen

410R2.V1.00.0005


Reply author: D3ffeCT
Replied on: 28 Jul 2010 23:08:47
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by srelioskoz

g-alin you was right.
but now a new problem

the mio moov 330 application is from other guy and i speak with him with messages

Waiting!! BOOTSEC is in Sector 233!!
MountDisk SUCCESS!
Open CEimage...
Checksum: 0x43a048e6
Writing CE image...



Unknown image type
Any key to continue


Read Progress :100%

he have tryed all 3 firmwares and the same problem


the upgrade screen is like this
0=Base & Region CE Upgrade
1=GPS Tools
2=BT Tools
3=Base CE Upgrade
4=UBOOT Upgrade
5=Memory Tools
6=Other Tools

0=Base by SD/MMC (Format)
1-Base by SD/MMC
2=Base by USB (Format)
3=Base by USB
4=Exit

he try 3 and then 0



try like this,first go to 6=other tools,make format,than try again to rewrite firmware


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 29 Jul 2010 16:23:16
Message:

@g_alin
thank you for helping to me, i will wait as long sa it takes to solve this.
i tried othet file and same thing.
unknown image type.:(


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 Jul 2010 20:23:56
Message:

daniel1605
did you tried: Base & Region ce upgrade? Starting now you have to use only this option (because inside are region and wince)


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 29 Jul 2010 20:38:08
Message:

g_alin in blue screen it shows
Cobia 400R2_R04_0821 RAM64 MLC 512M

can we find something for this?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 Jul 2010 20:42:04
Message:

srelioskoz,
"Cobia 400R2" the code is different from old Cobia xxx (without R2) ... so the hardware and bootloader is different. I don't know where we can find a device (or SMFlash) like that ... anyone !? has a device like that?


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 29 Jul 2010 20:57:14
Message:

if we try from mio 560?
MOOV560_EU (ROM_T550R2.V1.00.0003)?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 29 Jul 2010 21:01:51
Message:

srelioskoz
the Cobia400R2 has (probably) RAM=64M and Flash=512M; Moov560 it has also those values? Otherwise probably will not work (or will work unstable ...). Aldo you may try to see what happen; but there is a small risk that (protections are not implemented into Bootloader and) you may override the bootloader accidentally and make the device unusable.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 29 Jul 2010 21:23:37
Message:

http://www.cyberfans.cn/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=71190

i have found something here. but i can not download it


Reply author: D3ffeCT
Replied on: 29 Jul 2010 23:35:28
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by srelioskoz

http://www.cyberfans.cn/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=71190

i have found something here. but i can not download it



Cobia_400R2
download from here : http://www.4shared.com/file/1epi0keO/300rom0013.html

Source:
Ray file


P.S for g_alin

Si uite asa au fugit toti romanii destepti din tara


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Jul 2010 03:22:53
Message:

srelioskoz,
firmware is from a Cobia_410R2 (this is the Chinese firmware!):
http://www.4shared.com/file/nR5IlW69/Moov_330_Cobia_410R2_CHN_V1000.html
The format is the "R2 Type" (4 files: 2 x winceimg + (optional) 2 x region).
If you can find a identical device and extract the SMFlash I can (try to) extract the files. For now I don't know the Region (START and DIMENSION) parameters ... but we can try to find out :) .


Reply author: priest77
Replied on: 30 Jul 2010 10:32:40
Message:

So nobody can help me with a firmware for my mio moov 200 Cobia_300_64_NA?


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 30 Jul 2010 17:03:58
Message:

@g_alin
i tested again
base®ion by usb
it says
region image filesize overflow,
any key to continue


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Jul 2010 19:45:14
Message:

daniel1605,
test only base®ion by usb please:
http://www.4shared.com/file/O3T8k1Gn/testM300_2.html

ablbd,
Can you share also the sources of the "BMPView.exe"? I would like to implement some 'filters' on input data ... because its crashing frequently ...
Thank you.


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 30 Jul 2010 20:57:03
Message:

@g_alin
thanks but
i just tried, same problem.
.....filesize overflow,


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Jul 2010 21:11:15
Message:

daniel1605,
Try: http://www.4shared.com/file/kzsAEpOY/testM300_3.html


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 30 Jul 2010 21:27:55
Message:

@ g_alin
no luck with it , same message.
do i need to rename it to winceimg?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Jul 2010 22:55:47
Message:

daniel1605,
if is transmitted over USB the name doesn't matter ...
http://www.4shared.com/file/uIZ0_W-k/testM300_4.html


Reply author: Osprey
Replied on: 31 Jul 2010 00:48:57
Message:

My instructions for installing MioPocket strongly warn not to install to the flash drive on Moovs, because renaming AppStartupSec.exe or Paths.xml can brick the device, but I just stumbled upon a post by barmaley77 many months ago in which he mentioned that the proper way to unlock via the flash drive is to change the ProcessFile line in appstartupsec.ini. Is that really safe? Can anyone confirm that? Let's say that, worst case scenario, you change the ProcessFile line to a path/filename that doesn't even exist -- does USB still work so that you can fix the file? In other words, does USB work just because AppStartupSec.exe ran and regardless of what's in appstartupsec.ini, or is USB enabled only after the ProcessFile app is run (meaning that changing that line will break USB)? Is it completely safe and devoid of risk to modify appstartupsec.ini?

I'm very interested in hearing this, since I'd love to be able to tell Moov owners in MioPocket's Readme that they can install to the flash drive on their device and don't need to tell them that SD installation is the only option. Thanks.


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 31 Jul 2010 09:51:41
Message:

@ g_alin
same message,
fliesize owerflow...


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 31 Jul 2010 20:36:53
Message:

@osprey
I have no problems to install to the Flash drive from moov 330/370 (smartst-ce versions)
did this one or two times by error when i installed miopocket,
normal i use the sd installation.

If i load a new rom file to a moov it start with empty Flash disk
and the usb connection is working alright.

Then there is the hellrayser solution with no more appstartupsec.exe,ini file's , and instead is using the mainshell.exe and mainshell.ini
The usb connetion from this unlock works better than the miopocket usb connection
(always need to switch the device off and on to get it working)

If you want to try out some things it can , if it is not working
i can always put the rom file back and the device will then be alright again.

PS Thanks for the new version

Kener



Reply author: straian@hotmail.com
Replied on: 31 Jul 2010 21:44:19
Message:

Hello, I have MIO MOOV SPIRIT S305 and I format this device Please help me If you can with Mio Moov Spirit S305 firmware. Thank you


Reply author: Hellrayser
Replied on: 31 Jul 2010 22:57:06
Message:

indeed, my version of unlock does not use AppStarTupSec.exe or AppStarTupSec.ini ,is just a small limited unlock based on mio moov windows,dll and shell,everything work fine,no errors,no bugs,also miopocket is a good and nice unlock but..................


Reply author: Osprey
Replied on: 01 Aug 2010 05:09:38
Message:

kener,
How do you do your flash drive installation of MioPocket on your Moov? Do you do what I referred to earlier in editing AppStartupSec.ini? Also, I wasn't even aware that Moovs had MainShell.exe. I thought that was only Digiwalkers. Do all Moovs have MainShell.exe? What about just replacing MainShell.exe (with MioAutoRun.exe) to install MioPocket?

Hellrayser,
I would be happy to get your help in making MioPocket unlock Moovs better via the flash drive, but I also understand if you'd rather not, considering that you have your own unlock. Regardless, nice to see you here at gpspassion.com.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 01 Aug 2010 13:03:37
Message:

@ Osprey

Oke i will do a test with the new r60 version to install it on the moov 370 Flash disk but need to get it back to the original software first. (smartst-ce)
Need Some time to do this ,answer in a couple of days.

I did already a small test to put miopocket R59 on the moov 370 with the hellrayser unlock on it and the installation of r59 (SD) also works.(did not try all the programs but basics works)

@ hellrayser
As i do use the first version of your unlock ,it even works with a totaal empty Flash disk and can be a sollution to problems with missing or corrupted files
(very simple even my mother knows how it work ,even after a hardreset)
i do miss some things that are common on the miopocket unlock
most inportant i miss a taskmanager (preverable ITaskMrg)
and a Keyboard (Jotkbd) is it possible to put them in a next version ?

Think we are now go off topic here maybe we need to switch to another topic ?

Have a Nice day


Reply author: Hellrayser
Replied on: 01 Aug 2010 16:48:46
Message:

@ kener

Off topic

Is very easy for me to do that,but unfortunately, you'll need to give up two buttons,because to make another page with new button for software is not so simple,need to rebuild all unlock,a very hard work if you understud me.

if you are agree than chose 2 button for replacing with itask and notepad with jotkbd

On Topic:

for those who want to rewrite a bricked moov:
1.In the blue upgrade screen first chose 6= other tools
2.format
than write the new windows firmware


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 03 Aug 2010 07:48:20
Message:

Yesterday I got a SMFlash dump from a Mio Black Edition (N191) sold in Europe, R01.3.9753.1020. I made the image, it was tested and is working well.

g_alin, could you add it to 1'st page?
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H33UMRK9


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 03 Aug 2010 18:00:20
Message:

Mio Moov 370 Test to see what is Happening by a Mess Up (SmartST-Ce version)

The Moov 370 Device is unlocked to use Uboot for Restore if needed.(Thanks to g_alin)

Tested with Original Software from Navman Miomap.(Smartst-ce and Mireo)
To Test the different situations i only make ONE error in the device
So do not know how with will work with TWO or more errors..

1: Delete the complete flash disk then power off/on waiting for usb connetion.
Conclusion Usb connection Works with Empty Flash disk.
After First start Device.xml is placed on the Flash disk.
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
2: Restore original software but place Startup programs in wrong folder on flash disk.
(program files\navman renamed to program files\Navman-org)
Then power off/on waiting for usb connetion, Miomap not starting.
Conclusion Usb connection Works .
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
3: Restore original software (from backup) , normal startup from Miomap.
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
4: Rename AppStartupSec.exe to AppStartupSec.exe.org.
Then power off/on waiting for usb connetion, Miomap not starting
Conclusion Usb connection Works
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
5: Back to normal AppStartupSec.exe, then rename AppStartupSec.ini to AppStartupSec.ini.org
Device not starting also no Usb Connection
Only orange Mio splash screen show on display
Then Connect Usb and give Reset / Power on
Got now a working Usb Connection can rename AppStartupSec.ini.org to AppStartupSec.ini
Have a working Device again
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
6: Replace the normal AppStartupSec.exe, AppStartupSec.ini with the Mireo versions
No Miomap (Mireo) on Flash disk (Program files\Miomap)
Then power off/on waiting for usb connetion, Miomap not starting
Conclusion Usb connection Works
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
7: Replace the normal AppStartupSec.exe, AppStartupSec.ini with the Mireo versions
( here the AppStartupSec.exe, AppStartupSec are inside program files\navman )
Miomap (Mireo) on Flash disk (Program files\Miomap)
Then power off/on , Miomap (mireo version ) try to start but not complete starting Licence Isue.(Reboot after 3 Failing Starts)
Then Connect Usb and have a working connection again
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….


8 : Edit (Mess Up) the (Smartst-ce) AppStartupSec.ini.

Original file contains :

AppStartupSec]
TurnOffConsole=TRUE

[Process1]
RelativePath=FALSE
ProcessFile=Program Files\MioBT\MioBT.exe
ProcessCmdLine=-h HFP HSP DUN
ProcessDbgFile=
ProcessDbgCmdLine=
MaxRestarts=0
Major=FALSE
WindowName=MioBTUI
MaxCloseMessages=10

[Process2]
RelativePath=FALSE
ProcessFile=Program Files\Navman\iAppliance\iappliance.exe
ProcessCmdLine=
ProcessDbgFile=Program Files\Navman\iAppliance\iappliancedbg.exe
ProcessDbgCmdLine=
MaxRestarts=0
Major=FALSE
WindowName=
MaxCloseMessages=0

[Process3]
RelativePath=TRUE
ProcessFile=SmartST_CE.exe
ProcessCmdLine=
ProcessDbgFile=SmartST_CEDbg.exe
ProcessDbgCmdLine=
MaxRestarts=3
Major=TRUE
WindowName=SmartST_CE
MaxCloseMessages=10

Edit only One item in one test.
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
Change 1: [Process3] ProcessFile=SmartST_CE.exe to ProcessFile=SmartST_CE.exe.org
then power off/on waiting for usb connetion, Miomap not starting
Conclusion Usb connection Works
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
Change 2: [Process3] RelativePath=TRUE to FALSE
then power off/on waiting for usb connetion, Miomap not starting
Conclusion Usb connection Works
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
Change 3: [Process3] Major=TRUE to FALSE
Normal startup from Miomap, also from Reset
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

CONCLUSION :
All errors that i did make on the Smartst-ce version not one give me problems to reconnect the usb
and go back to a working situation.

@ Osprey
No problem to install miopocket r60 to flash disk (test just the basics) but need to say this moov 370 have a 2gb flash disk
Only if i start Smartst-ce i cannot exit by the hotspot in upper right corner.
To use Mainshell.exe and mainshell.ini the are (as far a i know) made by Hellrayser and questions are best answer by himself.

@ Hellrayser
Maybe there is room inside settings to make a extra button for Itaskmgr?
If its not possible i can put it on the calculator button by myself.
For now i do use the keyboard only to rename files inside the Filemanager so that is not a problem.

@ g_alin
Sorry to miss use this topic a little, hope you don't mind.

Have a Nice Day
Kener


Reply author: straian
Replied on: 04 Aug 2010 18:22:12
Message:

There is on this forum a rom file for Mio Sirit S305


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 04 Aug 2010 18:24:58
Message:

Hi Kener,

I still have a problem with 370 after a format I reloaded all original software but Mio would not boot so checked the Smart st folder and there is nothing there ,should the smart st .exe be there/
tnx


Reply author: joetgt
Replied on: 04 Aug 2010 20:56:19
Message:

Hi everybody !

didnt wrote here for a while, i have an old/new problem.

i was a big-big idiot, and formatted from blue screen menu the nand or something like that. is that a 120 Euro replace price thing ? :)
or is there any SDcard booting method, that i can fix it somehow ?

gps is mio moov 370

thanks for answers

joe


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 04 Aug 2010 21:49:05
Message:

@ john dough
There are 2 versions from moov 370 Smartst-ce and Mireo

For smartst-ce there is a map on flash disk Navman this map contains maps,buildings,tmc but no Smartst-ce.exe

Then there is inside Program files\navman the appstartupsec.exe and .ini
and inside program files\navman\smartst-ce the smartst-ce.exe
......................................................................
For the Mireo version there in inside Program files\miomap the whole program.
but for the miomore software there is also ONE file devicefutureset.xml
inside program files\navman\smartst-ce\data.


@ joetgt
If you have a working usb connection you can reinstall
with use of miomore software.


Reply author: Hellrayser
Replied on: 04 Aug 2010 22:01:21
Message:

@ Kener


Just wait few days pls,than the new update of unlock is ready


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 05 Aug 2010 00:21:40
Message:

@Kener

Some of the files on my backup went in to a different directory and in the confusion of going away for a few days they were misplaced (the old brain is not what it was for a senior) but I found the smart st one and all the files were there TG !!

All up and running again now but I still prefer Miomap V3 as it seems to run much faster despite the fact that the mapping is older but it does have all world maps on it.

A pity Mio changed to Navman software but nothing we can do now.
Thanks for your help and I will watch your developments with Miopocket 4 because if you manage to put in on the 2gb flash disk it would leave the sd card slot free for numerous gps progs on sd cards which is a restricting factor atm on the 370.

BTW is it possible to put additional pois for 2008 on the sd card that I use for Miopocket or would it cause problems.


Reply author: straian
Replied on: 05 Aug 2010 10:00:07
Message:

Hello g_alin think you could help me with the Mio ROM S305. Currently he is in the state of black screen and I can bring device to flash mode.
Thanks


Reply author: straian
Replied on: 05 Aug 2010 16:41:45
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by straian

Hello g_alin think you could help me with the Mio ROM S305. Currently he is in the state of black screen and I can bring device to flash mode.
Thanks



the blue screen is like this

Seeker 300STF64_R05_0310 MLC 2G
0=Base $ Region CE Upgrade
1=
...
...
...
7=TestMode Tools

I try all rom from Mio S501 to S568 but are not good

I receive
Unknown image type
Any key to continue

Have solution for me

Thanks


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 05 Aug 2010 22:51:44
Message:

g_alin,

Can you please take a look at the Moov M400 SMFlash.img file I uploaded and let me know if you can get me a bin file from it? I can DNW to my Moov M400, that stops at orange screen, but I need valid bin file. I tried the M300 files you made for daniel1605 but got error file does not fit project.

http://hotfile.com/dl/60052173/95e5db0/SMFlash_M400_102760448.img.zip.html

Thank you.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 05 Aug 2010 23:29:03
Message:

straian,
I don't have an upgrade for this type (all available upgrades are on the first page); you can try to download the SMFlash from another device (identical with yours) and I can try to extract the upgrade files.
For now we are stuck also with M300 series upgrade format ... but we can try also with your type ... maybe we figure out how to extract the upgrade file.


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 06 Aug 2010 03:29:49
Message:

g_alin,

Any help with this is extremely appreciated.
I figured that I could flash my M400 with the M300 image as they are the same except for screen size and memory.
Am I right in my thinking?
Let me know if you need anything more.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 06 Aug 2010 21:44:36
Message:

Snafoo,
Lets start only with winceimg (Base upgrade):
http://www.4shared.com/file/28BmkIqD/winceimg_M400_test.html
(I hope your GPS has the same Region with the SMFlash ... otherwise may not work ... only with Base upgrade).
Let me know the result.
If the screen size is different you have 0.01% chance to make it work with M300 firmware.


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 07 Aug 2010 13:43:42
Message:

g_alin

should i try this firmware for m400?

thanks


Reply author: mcduck
Replied on: 09 Aug 2010 06:25:22
Message:

Id really love if someone could upload the winceimg from C230_NA. I tired flashing the C230_EU but it only boots to a white screen. Any ideas?


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 09 Aug 2010 18:08:15
Message:

g_alin,

The flash went perfectly without errors.
The memory test completed successfully and all seemed to go as it should with the "Base Upgrade".
I even got a message telling me to restart my device.

I still do not get detection from windows after I restart.
Unit still freezes at Orange screen.
Should I try the Base Upgrade with Format?
I await your instructions before I proceed.


Reply author: renosbarbu
Replied on: 09 Aug 2010 19:51:02
Message:

alin what mean this message in mio moov 330?

BOOTSEC is in sector 97!!
MountDisk SUCCESS!
Open Region image...
Can not find REGION.CKS

i have 2 files in SD (winceimg.bin, winceimg.cks) but i don't have region.bin and
region.cks.

PLS HELP!



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Aug 2010 20:02:57
Message:

daniel1605,
Because the screen has a different dimension I am 99.99% confident that is not going to work.

mcduck,
You should try to upgrade 'with Format' ... probably you are in the Calibration Screen ... search a cross where you have to click with a stylus.

Snafoo,
for standard models the Format is not dangerous (because is formating only the FAT partition - not the BIN-FS or bootloader partition) ... but for this model (with two OSs inside ...) I don't know ... the result may be unpredictable -> At this moment I don't have any feedback from someone that did successfully format the FAT on M series.
So shortly: I don't know ...

renosbarbu,
You have the 'new 330 Moov' ... upgrade only Base Upgrade (not Base and Region upgrade). For 'Base and Region upgrade you need to have 4 files 2 x winceimg + 2 x region. At this moment - the Region format and dimension are unknown.


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 09 Aug 2010 20:34:21
Message:

g_alin,

Thank you.
I will wait for further instructions from you before I proceed.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Aug 2010 18:21:46
Message:

Snafoo,
I see two options:
1. upgrade Base with Format (risky ... but easy)
2. change the ROM (firmware) to start at power on a file manager application (like FileManCE)

Option 1:
nothing to say (because you are the first one to try ...) beside the risk of brick the device.

Option 2:
I can (try to) change the firmware to start automatically the FileManCE ... but you have to know that will be hard to debug this problem ... don't forget that you don't have SDCard ... so your only connection with exterior world is USB (and for now doesn't work).
(I don't have experience with Moov type of file system from My Flash Disk ...) And I remember that is a file (.ini) that define the applications started at power-up. I assume you changed (or some how the file was corrupted) in a way that make the application to fail to start.
If some other user (with Moov format experience) want to help you debug (or you want to try it your self to debug it) let me know and I can try to make that custom image with fileManCE included in flash.
Another thing you can do is (with fileManCE) to delete (or move) the *.ini file from his original position ... maybe this way the application that start the USB communication will not fail anymore. (For debugging reasons it will be useful to move the file to some folder and later on if the USB will start working to copy that file with PC and upload that INI file on the forum ... maybe Osprey will be interested to take a look at it ... maybe we understand what went wrong first time ... why it got bricked).

Let me know your decision (Option 1 or 2).


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 11 Aug 2010 01:58:29
Message:

g_alin,

I choose option #2.
I have all the files needed for the usb connection. I copied them from the working M400 I have.

Just let me know what you need from me.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Aug 2010 03:07:10
Message:

Snafoo,
try: http://www.4shared.com/file/D0paUKAg/_2__winceimg.html
After upgrade you should see fileManCE at powerup (something like windows commander ...)
let me know if you see the fileManCE application after you powerup the GPS.


Reply author: t50
Replied on: 11 Aug 2010 03:55:51
Message:

Hi g_alin,

Do you have firmware for Mio Moov 300? I looked all the pages but can't find it.
Do you know how to restore all the orginal files/folder on the Mio Moov 300? I can't launch my MioMap as some files may be missing. I can only launch it through MioPocket.

Thanks in advance.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Aug 2010 05:18:25
Message:

t50,
unfortunately we don't have ...
Restore Navigation software from original DVD.


Reply author: t50
Replied on: 11 Aug 2010 05:29:18
Message:

Hi g_alin,

I have tried my original DVD.. it can only updated to the latest map. I will try again and let you know.
thanks for your prompt response.


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 11 Aug 2010 13:51:14
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by t50

Hi g_alin,

I have tried my original DVD.. it can only updated to the latest map. I will try again and let you know.
thanks for your prompt response.




On the latest Moovs software is not on DVD despite what they say on Mio site, did you not do a backup of your flash disk?


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 11 Aug 2010 15:36:48
Message:

I downloaded the MioMore Desktop software from the Mio site. It is 499mb in size and includes the restore files for Mio Moov 200 through Moov 510. This is only the restore of the OS I believe as it does not include any maps.

I used it to restore my Mio Moov 500 after I fixed my USB connection by flashing wince.bin.


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 11 Aug 2010 17:53:45
Message:

g_alin,

The flash went fine and all tests were OK.
On restart I only get to the firmware screen and it stops here.
No more orange Mio start screen.

I can still get into the blue screen though. :)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 02:51:00
Message:

Snafoo,
So when you flashed the original firmware you are stuck in Orange screen, and when you flash modified firmware you end up in Blue screen?
BTW: on M series: how to you enter in blue screen (for other series you need to insert a SDCard) -> and your GPS doesn't have a SDCard ....

t50,
Download MioMore Desktop and try it (I never use it ... because I have C series ... ) but everyone is using it for Moov series.


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 04:50:42
Message:

g_alin,

No, when I flashed the original firmware I am stuck in Orange screen, but when I flash modified firmware I end up in BLACK screen with firmware version at top of screen. Basicly the screen before the orange screen is where it stops now.
To get to blue screen on my M400 I use the "Pin9 to GRND" trick. Basicly the same as other Moov units. I will post the menu structure tomorrow. It is different then my Mio Moov 500. I will also post the screens I get while flashing the modified firmware. It might mean something to you.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 22:11:20
Message:

Snafoo,
try: http://www.4shared.com/file/JqWg17k4/winceimg.html


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 12 Aug 2010 23:03:48
Message:

g_alin,

I flashed the new firmware (Base CE Upgrade) and I am getting the Orange screen now but it stops there. Like the first firmware you posted.


This is the screen after the flash, made B/W to see better:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/IMG_0120.JPG

This is the screen after the 1st flash:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/Snafoo_IMG_0121.JPG

This is the screen after the 2nd flash:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/Snafoo_IMG_0122.JPG

This is the screen after the 3rd flash:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/Snafoo_IMG_0121.JPG



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 02:00:58
Message:

Snafoo,
I tried a different approach for this firmware: http://www.4shared.com/file/RrYVbaf7/winceimg.html


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 16:23:15
Message:

g_alin,

I flashed the new firmware #4 (Base CE Upgrade) and I am getting the Orange screen now but it stops there. Like the 1st & 3rd firmware you posted.

This is the screen after the 4th flash:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/Snafoo_IMG_0121.JPG


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 22:44:38
Message:

Snafoo,
I don't have any new ideas ... I am thinking maybe you have a hardware problem ...
Maybe someone with a good working device should try those modified firmwares ...


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 13 Aug 2010 22:59:24
Message:

g_alin,

I reflashed the #4 firmware you posted but this time I did Base CE Upgrade Format.

Now when unit starts up I get this screen:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/Snafoo_IMG_0122.JPG

Then this screen:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/Snafoo_IMG_0126.JPG

Then it quickly changes to this screen:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/Snafoo_IMG_0125.JPG

But the GPS is not showing up on my PC.


Reply author: t50
Replied on: 16 Aug 2010 02:43:06
Message:

@g_alin,
How can I delete/de-activate the Upgrade green screen at start up? When I hard reset my Mio Moov 300, if the SD card is still on the SD card slot, the the upgrade screen will popup (even when I use a new SD card). If there is no SD card, then it start up normally even after hard reset.


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 16 Aug 2010 18:37:30
Message:

t50,

how to setup the boot to blue screen.
Download this file:
http://www.4shared.com/file/191674275/ad12bab0/cobia_420_64.html
or
http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html

and put it in your sd card but change the cobia_400_64 folder name to the appropriate name from the list below

Moov 300 -
European: Cobia_400_64,
North American: Cobia_400_64_NA,
Australian: Cobia_400_64_AU

NOTE: If the above names do not work try changing the folder name to Default, that's what my Moov 500 used.

when you start up your mio this program will start by it self and will ask you if you want USERMODE or SUPERMODE....

USERMODE = Boot to blue upgrade screen

SUPERMODE = Boot up normally

Select an option and follow the prompts.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 16 Aug 2010 19:24:17
Message:

Some info i found:

After i got my hands on a new mio spirit 575 (smartst-ce) Rom file is same as MoovS505_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R16.00.0773.STF128M)
i did a investigation on the flash drive Before the First Start of the device.

This let see a flash drive with (12) Folders with a Skuid_number name (number can be found inside device.xml in root of flash drive)
inside these Folders are a region.bin (2933kB) and a region.cks (1kB) file.
Inside \Program files\Navman\Userdata there are also Folders with a Skuid_number name these contain only default_settings.xml (device settings)
Inside \Navman there are also Folders with a Skuid_number name these contain only mapshigh.xml(map,building,tmc... info)

After the First start of the device all of the folders above are Gone.
and folders same as Skuid are installed.

Maybe this has something to do with rom files in two parts?

Have a nice Day
Kener


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 16 Aug 2010 22:43:22
Message:

Snafoo,
First of all: I read your replay (that you delete after ...) I can help you with some software needed to change the firmware.
Question: Did you flashed your new M400 (or your old M400)?
It is understandable why is not shown on your PC ... because I didn't changed anything ... I delete one file from your ROM and I added FileMANCE in his place (with name changed to something ... like MICDbgMsg.exe).
Now we have to change the firmware in order to stop also the "connect to PC" window.
This way you'll have access to fileMANCE ... and after that ... You'll have to tell me how to debug this further (because I don't have experience with this NAVMAN format). My understanding is that you played with your ini file and you bricked ... this is true? ... if this is the case, you need to change back the ini file (to re-gain the USB connectivity). If you need a program (to change ini file -like notepad ... or some other program ... whatever program) I can try to add it to your ROM. At this moment your only way to 'transfer' some programs to your device is through firmware ... but the space is limited ...
As for firmware change you have to use ROMMasterCE5.
http://www.4shared.com/file/LtRv7WRj/RomMasterCE5.html
unzip and you need to have the path "C:\kit\RomMasterCE5" and inside the folders "ver.1.9.9" and "resource". Use for Input 'MoovM300_2'.
Now comes the tricky part ... the final file 'winceimg.bin' is not compatible with your GPS ... you need to make it compatible:
1. delete first 200h from wimceimg.bin
2. add those 1FFh bytes instead (http://www.4shared.com/file/8ocOCAWH/HEADER.html)
Try to familiarize with the program (ROMMasterCE5) ... is is written in VB6 - you have also the sources available ... let me know if you have questions about it ...
I will try to make a firmware that is not starting AppStartupPri.exe ... this way you'll have access to fileMANCE (image 2) -and you can try to start that file (AppStartupPri.exe) manually ...

LE:
try this: http://www.4shared.com/file/GoBiMFy0/winceimg_5.html
Did you start your car with GPS plug it into 12V socket? If that happed there is a chance that you damaged the Data line from the USB ... there where some cases .. search on GPSPASSION ...


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 00:43:41
Message:

g_alin,

I flashed the non-functioning M400. The same unit I flashed before I just chose Format this time and it worked.

The flash disk had become corrupt and I lost alot of the factory files.
I deleted Program Files folder from root before I knew better.

I will need these files added to the firmware as follows to get USB function to work: (I believe)

(root)
Program Files\paths.xml (2498 bytes)
Program Files\Navman\AppStartupSec.exe (143,360 bytes)
Program Files\Navman\appstartupsec.ini (201 bytes)

Can you add a folder in the firmware?
I can post the files for you if this is possible.

Do you understand what I did?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 01:11:52
Message:

Snafoo,
Yes I understand ... check with FileMANCE if you have any files into My Flash Disk (theoretically should be empty if you used Format ...).
I can't make a folder into ROM (in a easy way ... :( )
I prefer to add those files into \Windows ... if you don't mind ... give me the files.
Did you tried the #5 ? works like expected?


Reply author: t50
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 01:59:52
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Snafoo

t50,

how to setup the boot to blue screen.
...

SUPERMODE = Boot up normally

Select an option and follow the prompts.



Thanks a lot Snafoo. It works!


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 16:15:26
Message:

g_alin,

You can put the files anywhere. I can move them from inside filemanCE.
How will I change the names of the folders inside filemanCE?
Is there a keyboard already in winCE I can use?
If not can you add empty text files with the names of the folders I need?

Program Files
Navman

Here are the files I need, I added 2 more:
http://www.4shared.com/file/YDDpRSPf/M400_Files.html


I flashed #5 it stops at filemanCE but I can't copy, paste, move, rename or create Dir.

And the flash disk is empty.


t50,

Glad I was able to help you out.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 18:41:09
Message:

Snafoo,
I added also other applications ... (check the BMP file inside ...)
http://www.4shared.com/file/LOD1bhdR/winceimg_6.html


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 19:38:43
Message:

g_alin,

I can now copy and move and create dir.
The keyboard comes up but when I type nothing shows on the screen.
It looks really good so far!

I only need a file names Navman and the keyboard fixed.
I am talking about the JOT keyboard. Key.exe does not launch.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 19:58:05
Message:

Snafoo,
http://www.4shared.com/file/jrNKJ6UJ/winceimg_7.html


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 20:58:20
Message:

g_alin,

keyboard still does not work.
I think that is the last piece I need.

Also, how are you launching the filemanCE on bootup?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 21:38:50
Message:

Snafoo,
I added also: ToggleInputPanel.exe and ToggleInputPanel_coredl2.exe:
http://www.4shared.com/file/VguW6Xrz/winceimg_8.html
Let me know if those are working (as a keyboard).


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 22:18:34
Message:

g_alin,

ToggleInputPanel.exe and ToggleInputPanel_coredl2.exe WORKED!!
I am making the changes now.

How are you launching FilemanCE at startup?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 22:40:44
Message:

Snafoo,
from registry;
replaced:
"Depend80"=hex:14,00,1e,00,47,00
"Launch80"="AppStartupPri.exe"
with:
"Depend80"=hex:14,00,1e,00,47,00
"Launch80"="AppStartupPr_.exe"
and added the file AppStartupPr_.exe to ROM

BTW: If you want to have USB connectivity you need to start manually AppStartupPri.exe.


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 22:46:36
Message:

g_alin,

You are the man!
I am copying my good M400 backup to this one now!!!

I will update you on the out come!

What is OrionFlash?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 22:48:23
Message:

Snafoo,
:) please don't forget to write the procedure (now it's fresh in your mind ;) ) to recover the M Series


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 17 Aug 2010 23:55:47
Message:

Mio Moov M400 No USB Connectivity Fix.
(a work in process)

In order to get to the blue Upgrade screen you must open the unit.
You must perform the "Pin9 to Ground" trick WHILE THE USB CABLE IS CONNECTED.
You will open the case and the circuit board must be flipped over to get to the NAND chip.
Once the board is flipped over with the video cable still connected you must remove the metal cover to get to the chip.
<insert pictures here>

The dot identifies pin #1 so count down to pin #9.
<insert pictures here>

The metal that the cover clamps down on is grounded.
<insert pictures here>

I use a bread twist tie with the plastic removed to make the connection.
<insert pictures here>

You must hold the wire to ground at one end and to pin #9 on the other and turn the unit from RESET to ON. I count to 5 slowly after I have turned the unit on before removing the ground.
Not too hard to do. Just do it how you like best.
<insert pictures here>

Once you have the Blue Upgrade Screen turn the screen over but put something non-conductive between the screen back and the circuit board.
<insert pictures here>

Tap the screen 3 times to highlight Base CE Upgrade.
To select Base CE Upgrade carefully move the power switch to OFF then back to ON.
<insert pictures here>

Tap once to highlight Base by USB.
To select Base by USB carefully move the power switch to OFF then back to ON.
<insert pictures here>

You should see this message: USB Cable NOT CONNECTED
The you should see this message: USB Cable Connected
<insert pictures here>

Now go to your PC and find DNW.exe and launch it.
Go to USB Port->Transmit->Transmit

A file browser screen will open.
Browse to the winceimg.bin file and select it.
http://www.4shared.com/file/VguW6Xrz/winceimg_8.html
<insert pictures here>

The upload process will start.
Then the erase and flash will start on the GPS screen.
<insert pictures here>

When flash is finished it will tell you to restart the unit.
Turn the power switch to the RESET position.
<insert pictures here>

Unplug the USB cable from the unit and turn the unit ON.
It will boot to the filemanCE screen.
<insert pictures here>








Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Aug 2010 07:56:17
Message:

Snafoo, OrionFlash its something related to the GPS (firmware) ... http://www.atheros.com/pt/AR1511.htm (not useful for us ...)


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 18 Aug 2010 20:55:36
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

Snafoo,
First of all: I read your replay (that you delete after ...) I can help you with some software needed to change the firmware.....

As for firmware change you have to use ROMMasterCE5.
http://www.4shared.com/file/LtRv7WRj/RomMasterCE5.html
unzip and you need to have the path "C:\kit\RomMasterCE5" and inside the folders "ver.1.9.9" and "resource". Use for Input 'MoovM300_2'.


g_alin,

Where do I find 'MoovM300_2'?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 19 Aug 2010 18:12:45
Message:

Snafoo,
In the software (ROMMasterCE5) there is a combo_box to select 'Input' ... you have many possible selections, but you have to use 'MoovM300_2'.


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 19 Aug 2010 22:54:36
Message:

g_alin,

Ok, I got it now.
Thanks!


Reply author: csuri
Replied on: 22 Aug 2010 05:59:12
Message:

Hi!
Sorry my bad english.
I have a mio m400.
I should like upgrade.
The blue screen is OK, I see the message: USB Cable Connected
But the dnw.exe /USB Port->Transmit->Transmit/ say: 'can't open the USB device'.
Please help me!
Csuri


Reply author: rgdfg
Replied on: 22 Aug 2010 15:11:27
Message:

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startup your mio and you can see blue upgrade screen


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 22 Aug 2010 15:42:23
Message:

csuri,

You need to uninstall the Microsoft drive for USB and install the USB driver that came with DNW.exe.
Then you will have connection.

rgdfg,

Mov M400 does not have SD card slot.


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 23 Aug 2010 09:47:16
Message:

g-alin&snafoo
nice work you do..
very helpfull
i need m300 s winceimg


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 23 Aug 2010 14:37:05
Message:

daniel1605,

None of the ones g_alin posted for you worked?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Aug 2010 19:51:48
Message:

daniel1605 & Snafoo,
I can make the winceimg for M300 but I need the files needed for USB connection.
For M400 I added many files ... Snafoo please confirm (only) the files needed for recovery.
Can you write also the steps to recover the USB connection (what you have to copy ... and so on ...)? If I remember right daniel1605 was able to write the firmware but he was unable to recover the USB connection. Am I right daniel1605?


Reply author: daniel1605
Replied on: 24 Aug 2010 17:14:00
Message:

@snafoo & g_alin
i tried all of them,fist winceimg (g_alin created it)i used was succesfull, i got usb connection but miomore software couldnt see device to make soft. upgrade.
i tried to copy files from cd but device always stuck on boot screen.and all other files, same problem.seems like missing some files about usb connection.


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 24 Aug 2010 20:44:33
Message:

Hallo g_alin,
any news about a MIO C320 / C520 with application-error? After we can not flash and repair my C320, yesterday comes my friend with a same problem on his C520, also 3 years old. ( before he laughs about my problem) I can do what I want, all of your tools or images etc. can not read, only after hardreset and the orange screen : Application mainshell.exe has.... Same like before with my old system, no acess to SDcard. I read all post after my last one , but find no solution.

Edit: Just for information, the 320_WEU R37 update is running very well on my (new) C320b. (Mio say that will not work....)


Reply author: csuri
Replied on: 25 Aug 2010 06:10:23
Message:

Snafoo!
I thanks yourhel.
The connection is OK, but the m400 say: " the image don't fit the project".
I download the file:http://www.4shared.com/file/VguW6Xrz/winceimg_8.html
What can i do?
csuri


Reply author: Snafoo
Replied on: 25 Aug 2010 06:42:47
Message:

I'll finish my M400 USB Connection instructions tomorrow.
Life gets in my way sometimes.
I'm still working on pictures.
My camera is crap for close-ups.

daniel1605,

I haven't forgotten about you.


Reply author: hrista
Replied on: 25 Aug 2010 10:02:18
Message:

hi all,
hi g_alin, I'am a new at this forum, you've helped to many of members.
I've smilar problem, have MIO MOOV 200 with formated flash. I've tried load new
WinCE from image offered at this forum, but I was unsuccesfull.
MIO reads image 100 %, after reading it writes "Uknown image type"
and that is all.
I've similar MIO, I've made image of flash with name SMFlash_0_26214400.img
but I dont know how I can put it into my MIO.
Could you help me ?
Thanks


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 25 Aug 2010 21:55:05
Message:

thomas_2,
C320b is different from C320. Unfortunately I don't have any updates ...

hrista,
upload the SMFlash somewhere and I will take a look.
Can you access the Blue Screen on Moov200?


Reply author: thomas_2
Replied on: 26 Aug 2010 00:00:35
Message:

thats what I mean. Mio have no update for 320b. After my last one was broken (around page 50 ) I buy a new one and test with your 320_WEU R37 from the first page. It work stable. That was only a information for you. But my important question was if there is any new solution for Mio Cx20. like the 9pin. If you remember, last time I give up with a C320, now my friend bring me a C520 with same problem (only other exe file).


Reply author: hrista
Replied on: 26 Aug 2010 08:07:47
Message:

hi g_alin,

thank you for your reply, this is link to img
http://www.2shared.com/file/8b44AhV2/SMFlashimg.html

I have unlocked MIO, blue screen appear at every start with sdcard inside.
I try extract files from image, I was successfull, but I don know what now with them,
whitch of them belong to wince :-)

So try to make wince.bin from it please.

Thank you


Reply author: redyak
Replied on: 26 Aug 2010 08:36:01
Message:

Hi,

I have run bondisk on my mio C710 and extracted 2*.img Files.
I don't think these are the ROM files ?
How to i get them into a ROM file and do you want my Version
English/Europe (NL) R34F.3.112.928


Reply author: redyak
Replied on: 26 Aug 2010 08:53:16
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by redyak

Hi,

I have run bondisk on my mio C710 and extracted 2*.img Files.
I don't think these are the ROM files ?
How to i get them into a ROM file and do you want my Version
English/Europe (NL) R34F.3.112.928



My Mio is still working like a charm was just curious how to backup my ROM. I use Igo8 and Primo on this Device


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 26 Aug 2010 22:05:27
Message:

hrista,
Please tell me the Menus options (from Blue Screen) (for me to figure out the firmware format needed ...).

redyak,
make a zip file with those files and I will tell you if you have the firmware inside (I can extract also the firmware in a flash-able format ...).


Reply author: redyak
Replied on: 26 Aug 2010 22:51:56
Message:

http://www.2shared.com/file/4RlYsyTe/bkondisk_image_C710.html

Here is my image, thanks


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Aug 2010 04:16:32
Message:

redyak,
firmware is in bk_04_000a.img ... but is not all ... should be something like 60 Megs (not 14M) probably you didn't had enough space to save all the SMFlash ... try again after you free some space on that drive/partition (temporary move one map to SDCard ...)


Reply author: hrista
Replied on: 27 Aug 2010 08:04:29
Message:

Hi g_alin

This is my MIO menu :

Cobia300R2_32M_R04_0827 MLC 2G

0=Base & Region CE Upgrade
0=Base & Region by SD/MMC (Format)
1=Base & Region by SD/MMC
2=Base & Region by USB (Format)
3=Base & Region by USB
4=Exit
1=GPS Tools
0=Gps Test
1=Gps Updating
2=Exit
2=BT Tools
0=BT Test Mode
1=Write BT MAC
2=Exit
3=Base CE Upgrade
0=Base by SD/MMC (Format)
1=Base by SD/MMC
2=Base by USB (Format)
3=Base by USB
4=Exit
4=UBOOT Upgrade
0=UBOOT by USB
1=UBOOT by SD/MMC
2=Resume by USB
3=Resume by SD/MMC
4=Exit
5=Memory Tools
0=ROM CheckSum
1=Memory Test
2=Exit
6=Other Tools
0=CPLD Upgrade by SD/MMC
1=CPLD Upgrade by USB
2=Read CPLD user code
3=CPLD Upgrade by SD/MMC (Inerse)
4=CPLD Upgrade by USB (Inverse)
5=Read CPLD user code (Inverse)
6=Download & Run
7=Nand Tools
8=Format
9=Exit


Reply author: hrista
Replied on: 27 Aug 2010 08:08:15
Message:

g_alin

I send it ones more, rows with dots are submenu

Cobia300R2_32M_R04_0827 MLC 2G

0=Base & Region CE Upgrade
..0=Base & Region by SD/MMC (Format)
..1=Base & Region by SD/MMC
..2=Base & Region by USB (Format)
..3=Base & Region by USB
..4=Exit
1=GPS Tools
..0=Gps Test
..1=Gps Updating
..2=Exit
2=BT Tools
..0=BT Test Mode
..1=Write BT MAC
..2=Exit
3=Base CE Upgrade
..0=Base by SD/MMC (Format)
..1=Base by SD/MMC
..2=Base by USB (Format)
..3=Base by USB
..4=Exit
4=UBOOT Upgrade
..0=UBOOT by USB
..1=UBOOT by SD/MMC
..2=Resume by USB
..3=Resume by SD/MMC
..4=Exit
5=Memory Tools
..0=ROM CheckSum
..1=Memory Test
..2=Exit
6=Other Tools
..0=CPLD Upgrade by SD/MMC
..1=CPLD Upgrade by USB
..2=Read CPLD user code
..3=CPLD Upgrade by SD/MMC (Inerse)
..4=CPLD Upgrade by USB (Inverse)
..5=Read CPLD user code (Inverse)
..6=Download & Run
..7=Nand Tools
..8=Format
..9=Exit


Reply author: redyak
Replied on: 27 Aug 2010 10:37:39
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

redyak,
firmware is in bk_04_000a.img ... but is not all ... should be something like 60 Megs (not 14M) probably you didn't had enough space to save all the SMFlash ... try again after you free some space on that drive/partition (temporary move one map to SDCard ...)



Wil try again, is strange because my flash had 1,8GB free


Reply author: redyak
Replied on: 27 Aug 2010 12:02:53
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by redyak

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

redyak,
firmware is in bk_04_000a.img ... but is not all ... should be something like 60 Megs (not 14M) probably you didn't had enough space to save all the SMFlash ... try again after you free some space on that drive/partition (temporary move one map to SDCard ...)



Wil try again, is strange because my flash had 1,8GB free



I have tried but the mio says my trash can is full. I cannot find a way to emtpy it. I tried TRE and installing the reg from one of the posting here but TRE (Tascal) will not install or i tries to install in desktop.ini but i don't think that is good) If someone has a solution please ?

Oke i got it copied to my flashdisk instead of the root . It is now 3 files and one of them is 23,7 MEG (i read somewhere it should be between 10-32 so this looks better)

http://www.2shared.com/file/pzMKx95v/C710.html





Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Aug 2010 18:51:53
Message:

hrista,
try this one:
http://www.4shared.com/file/jcHm1PXx/Moov_200_Cobia_300_32_EEU_V100.html
Please let me know if is working ... it is very important ...
OTHER USERS WITH MOOV 200 ... for now don't try to upgrade this !!! format is different then old MOOV 200 (this is Cobia300R2 --- "R2" release)

redyak,
Try: http://www.4shared.com/file/xtsrf1Yl/C710_ENG_EU__NL__R34F3112928.html
let me know if it works ...


Reply author: redyak
Replied on: 27 Aug 2010 19:24:17
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

hrista,
try this one:
http://www.4shared.com/file/jcHm1PXx/Moov_200_Cobia_300_32_EEU_V100.html
Please let me know if is working ... it is very important ...
OTHER USERS WITH MOOV 200 ... for now don't try to upgrade this !!! format is different then old MOOV 200 (this is Cobia300R2 --- "R2" release)

redyak,
Try: http://www.4shared.com/file/xtsrf1Yl/C710_ENG_EU__NL__R34F3112928.html
let me know if it works ...




Thanks but maybe someelse can try with an broken C710 . Mine C710 is still working
I wanted to contibute a working rom because i knew the C710 had no availble roms anymore with Mio.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Aug 2010 01:13:35
Message:

redyak,
Very nice of you ... thank you.

for those interested ... we have also :
C230_NA MioMap3.3 (R10.2.9941.0822.64MB) http://www.4shared.com/file/9fhTgJjS/C230_NA_ROM_R1029941082264MB.html


Reply author: Hellrayser
Replied on: 29 Aug 2010 14:18:11
Message:


sorry for OFF TOPIC

@ Osprey

If you want to implement part of my work in your next release of MioPocket contact me at:
marinescupl@gmail.com


Reply author: hrista
Replied on: 30 Aug 2010 08:50:24
Message:

Hi g_alin

thank you fo wince image, but I could not upgrade it,
this is log from upgrade :

Waiting!!
BOOTSEC is in Sector 247!!
MountDisk SUCCESS!
Open CEimage ...
Checksum: 0x32152fcf
Writing CE image...
Unknown image type
Any key to continue


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Aug 2010 19:11:29
Message:

hrista,
did you used: 3=Base CE Upgrade ..1=Base by SD/MMC ?


Reply author: gihsf
Replied on: 31 Aug 2010 07:09:23
Message:

I am looking for mio c230 winceimg.bin file for na. I tried the eu version but it did not work.


Reply author: gihsf
Replied on: 31 Aug 2010 07:38:10
Message:

Just discovered the mio c230 na file and got my system to work! thanks


Reply author: hrista
Replied on: 31 Aug 2010 10:30:07
Message:

g_alin

yes, I have tried "0" and "1" choices
but with the same result
:-(


Reply author: hrista
Replied on: 31 Aug 2010 10:33:33
Message:

g_alin

"0" and "1" submenu of "3" menu of course :-)


Reply author: hrista
Replied on: 31 Aug 2010 12:39:26
Message:

g_alin

as I wrote before, I have "6" th choice of menu "Other Tools"

0=CPLD Upgrade by SD/MMC
1=CPLD Upgrade by USB
2=Read CPLD user code
3=CPLD Upgrade by SD/MMC (Inerse)
4=CPLD Upgrade by USB (Inverse)
5=Read CPLD user code (Inverse)
6=Download & Run
7=Nand Tools
8=Format
9=Exit

Is one of this oher way to update software to MIO ?
Do you know what mean CPLD ?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 01 Sep 2010 18:17:00
Message:

hrista,
For now I don't know the format (probably we'll have to test several options ...).
If you can find an upgrade (from Mio) for this device please let me know ... (I couldn't find one ...)
You don't need to change CPLDs settings ...
FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_programmable_logic_device
CPLD firmware is something related to platform ... usually is not upgradeable (not this case ... but anyway ...). We need to find an upgrade from Mio (otherwise we'll have to test many ... possible ... options)


Reply author: kasiad26
Replied on: 02 Sep 2010 21:39:20
Message:

Hello!
I need FW for MIO MOOV 310 PL searched the forum but never silent FW for this model.Now Mio is dead.Thanx for help.
Sorry for my English


Reply author: csuri
Replied on: 04 Sep 2010 13:06:55
Message:

Hi!
Mooov M400 should be on the winceimg.bin, but I can not find anywhere on the web.
Could someone help me?
Thank you in advance


Reply author: amitile
Replied on: 04 Sep 2010 19:14:18
Message:

what about MioMoov380? Who has firmware to this device?


Reply author: alex2000
Replied on: 06 Sep 2010 08:03:37
Message:

Hello
I have one big problem.I manage to enter blue screen on Navman F15, but i can't find the img file for this.On screen appear Cobia200_R02_0515 RAM 32 MLC 256M.If anyone can help me, i will apreciate.Thanks a lot


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 06 Sep 2010 11:27:11
Message:

Hi g_alin,
a while ago I got a RomMaster from you and I was trying to use it on Backer 7928
but for some reason your tool doesn't want to deal with this,
I have used the ablbd's tool and it created the required winceimg.bin and associated .cks
file which reads: binSize : 15005696 checksum: 0x5BEF9481
but according to ablbd, there is some problem.
I was wondering if you could have a look at the dump and give some explanations, if possible.
The file can be found here: http://www.przeklej.pl/plik/dump-becker7928-zip-0020290s37tb
just click on "dump becker7928 .zip" to download it.
I would appriciate your help


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 07 Sep 2010 23:06:55
Message:

jlagocki,
I can confirm you -> the ROM is corrupted.
The question is what did you done to make this? I need more informations ... start changing the ROM step by step and find out where did ROM got corrupted ... otherwise I don't know where to start with debugging ...

alex2000,
for now we don't know the upgrade format for Cobia200_R02
Do you have (know where we can find) an upgrade from Navman (for this product)? - maybe we figure out from there the upgrade format ...


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 08 Sep 2010 08:43:45
Message:

jlagocki, g_alin
Actually the dump is somehow corrupted. The xip chain is present in the dump but:
- rom header(s) do not have chain info
- the VA for xip chain (at the end of SIG-BINFS part) is 0x1000 less than the actual position of the xip chain.


Reply author: alex2000
Replied on: 08 Sep 2010 08:56:39
Message:

Hi
I don't have update cd from navman, anyway i can't do the the upgrade from cd because the gps is not seen as HDD.Only when i press wince update from bluscreen my computer recognise the device.My navman is N188 = F15.Thanks anyway


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 08 Sep 2010 21:31:23
Message:

ablbd,
Do you think the DiskRW read some 'shadow' memory ... and not the 'real' ROM? only by dumping through JTAG we can find out if this is the case ... what do you think?

alex2000,
can you find out an identical device to download the SMflash.img? we need that anyway ...


Reply author: alex2000
Replied on: 08 Sep 2010 21:35:45
Message:

This one was bought from Italy.I don't know if i will find another one because i am in Romania now, but i will try


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 09 Sep 2010 04:27:00
Message:

Thanks g_alin and ablbd,
I have asked the guy to dump again using NDump,
ha will also try to get the dump from another unit
with the same name.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 09 Sep 2010 07:55:12
Message:

jlagocki, g_alin
I manually adjusted the virtual addresses for xip chain info and 2'nd xip, this one technically should be a valid image http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0Q4AZHXT
Don't be absolutely sure that it will work on your Becker7928 but you may try.

For safety reasons, proceed with the dumps to figure out why in SIG-BINFS area's chain info and 2'nd xip had 0x1000 lower virtual addresses as their actual positions in the dump(file offset). In case that we will get same results, the work-around could be to manually replace in the above winceimg.bin VA's to the original ones and recalculate checksum... If so, most probably the bootloader has a hard-coded parameter to write/locate them in the partition (as protection against bootable image "fabrication" from dumps or, as last minute offer, to spare one RAM page???). BTW, NDump will not work if compactFW is not installed on Becker!

To resume, I see 2 possibilities:
1. The image has correct VA's and the bootloader is substracting 0x1000 from chain info and 2'ns xip's VA of SIG-BINFS area when writes the image to nand. In this case winceimg will work as it is.
2. The image has VA's as in dump and the bootloader is adding 0x1000 to file offset when writes chain info+2'nd xip in nand and reads them from nand accordingly. In this case winceimg has to be manually fixed as described.

There is still an open question: at what VA is loaded in RAM chain info and 2'nd xip? According to 2'nd xip's header, it loads at 0x88200000, exactly the value from SIG-BINFS area, so is expected that chain info will be loaded at 0x881FF000... It would be nice to have a RAM dump from VA=0x88000000, size >=0x2000000.

Edit:
Looking deeper into rom headers is obvious now that they used the file offset trick to make life difficult for authomated(using some tools) image generation from a SMFlash dump.
I'm almost sure that this image (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S6WCRUH5) will work fine.


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 10 Sep 2010 03:42:24
Message:

Thanks ablbd,
I'll pass it on to the guy.
Do you think the image from second unit might be also modified by the manufacturer.
Hi is hoping to get another image from his brother's unit.
The NDump is not seeing the msflash, on this Becker, it can only see SD and internal storage,
the guy has got compact dotnet frameworks 3.5 installed on his unit


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 10 Sep 2010 08:57:13
Message:

Make the dump and we'll see. NDump enumerates the stores; if SMFlash is not defined as a store, will not "see" it and I don't have a Mio type device to work on this issue.


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 10 Sep 2010 19:39:29
Message:

Hello
i have an Moov 360(M179) - European: Cobia_420_64 S3C2443XL-40+K9GAG08U0M-PCB0 my original problem was
(0=wince upgrade and put power button to off and then to on position
0=wince by sd/mmc (format) off then on
it was started well but doesnt finshed said not enough memory so i went to the other options and found a format option
now doesnt wanna turn on and the bluescreen doesnt came up also)

now i have made connection with LPT + H-JTAG http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4019/lptjtag.jpg anyone can someone link me the 4 files for this type to get the bluescreen with NoICE
Uboot.bin
Uboot.cks
ipl.bin
SPL.bin
i have tried this http://www.4shared.com/file/JAIsslVX/RecoverMioCX20.htm after i have ran ipl.bin and spl.bin
i just got little backlight.
or any help for this?
thank u


Reply author: czoran
Replied on: 11 Sep 2010 10:07:17
Message:

Hello everybody. I am back from long vacation and working again hard to recover my Mio Moov M300.
I bought JTAG and idea is to clone another identical device if possible. Reading whole 2GB of flash chip is not an option, but maybe only part(s) of it.
Also, as I already have posted DiskRW image from working device, is it possible to flash it back to dead device as whole, or I need to extract parts from it and flash separately.

Could anyone suggest what address range I can read from donor device and put into my dead one? I would happily put that images here for everybody else.

Thanks.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 11 Sep 2010 12:12:26
Message:

czoran
If you compromised the bootloaders by flashing on block0 and further, I have those blocks so no need to read from a good one. Give me an email address and I'll send content of block0 and content of block2->...(uboot) from Moov300.


Reply author: czoran
Replied on: 11 Sep 2010 14:38:59
Message:

Hello,

Thank you very much for helping me.
You can send files to "czoran at fastmail dot ca" address, or put it somewhere on share.

Please include some hints about starting physical addresses, etc. for flashing via jtag.

Regards,
Zoran


Reply author: mighty34
Replied on: 12 Sep 2010 04:08:14
Message:

Two days ago my Mio C520 got failured

After I disconnect it from PC in the morning, I notice it was freezed. I restarted it and I got:

Fatal Application Error:
Application Launcher.exe has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. If the problem persist, contact the program vendor.

Program: Launcher.exe
Exception: 0xC0000005
Address: 037FE210

I cannot get abything else. Orange Mio screen and this message

R02+3+9911+1018
I was using MioPacket 3.0 with Primo on it

I saw that someone else has the same problem

Any chance to solve this?


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 12 Sep 2010 05:52:02
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by ablbd

Make the dump and we'll see. NDump enumerates the stores; if SMFlash is not defined as a store, will not "see" it and I don't have a Mio type device to work on this issue.


Hi ablbd,
Here is a link to the second Backer DiskRW dump:
http://www.przeklej.pl/plik/mantas500b-dump_becker7928__zip-0020j859dbq4
I haven't look at it yet, just checked my email and am sharing it.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 12 Sep 2010 09:38:27
Message:

jlagocki, dump is identical with the 1'st one. I suggest to try reflash the Becker7928 with the 2'nd image from my previous post.


Reply author: abispac
Replied on: 12 Sep 2010 21:17:25
Message:

hello, dumb me i started to mess with mi mio moov 300 last night and managed to get a blue screen , but i accydetaly choe format in the options, then i guess i erased the flash, now my device wont start or nothing, totally dead, its there another way i can restore this or have i killed my gps device? thanks for any help...


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 13 Sep 2010 11:07:36
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by ablbd

jlagocki, dump is identical with the 1'st one. I suggest to try reflash the Becker7928 with the 2'nd image from my previous post.


Hi ablbd,
the guy cannot get to the blue screen, he is trying different
software and metodes, maybe you would now how, by any chance?


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 13 Sep 2010 16:55:07
Message:

quote:
the guy cannot get to the blue screen, he is trying different
software and metodes


I know(heard) about 3 methods:
1. Device may connect to DNW
2. Locate on net data sheet for that particular nand, connect CE-(chip enable) to ground and switch power on; take care, CE- pin is not necessarily pin9!!!
3. Dump, edit then rewrite a certain physical block with jtag; for Samsung processors I am using exclusively this method.


Reply author: alex2000
Replied on: 14 Sep 2010 10:50:40
Message:

Hi all,
can anybody find Cobia200_R02_0515 RAM 32 MLC 256M ? Thanks


Reply author: mighty34
Replied on: 14 Sep 2010 13:14:05
Message:

thomas_2, g_alin

did you solved this problem which I posted above

It was exactly the same issue which you were trying to solve?

thanks in advance


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Sep 2010 18:14:37
Message:

mighty34,
I see the problem is the same ... but I don't have a solution (software) how to activate the upgrade screen.
As ablbd mentioned, probably the only option is (#3) to change in flash (using JTAG) setting from LockedUT to Unlocked.
But ... first of all: the method is not universal (you need to find the JTAG connection and connect to your processor ...) and second: you need to have strong electronics knowledge and equipment to perform this task.


Reply author: mighty34
Replied on: 14 Sep 2010 21:50:51
Message:

g_alin, ablbd

Can you tell me what kind of equipment I should have and what should I exactly do?


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 14 Sep 2010 23:46:36
Message:

g_alin

Hello
i made H-JTAG connection on my Moov 360(M179) - European: Cobia_420_64 S3C2443XL-40+K9GAG08U0M-PCB0 with LPT cable. here's the picture fromhttp://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3937/n179hjtag.jpg
can u help from here how to get to the bluescreen or fix this device?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Sep 2010 05:14:20
Message:

ablbd,
Do you know where the SMFlash partition starts in the flash memory?
The settings is at 101000H in the SMFlash ... but we need to know the offset where SMFlash is located in flash memory.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 15 Sep 2010 14:10:49
Message:

g_alin
Usually is block16, unless there are some bad blocks before this. LOCKEDUT is at offset 0x1000 in this block. I didn't had any N179 on jtag so I cannot be sure but I suggest to look after around block16. Supposing that nand has page size=0x800 and 128 pages/block, block16 should be at 0x400000 from the beggining of nand.
Anyway, I prefere to work with modified sjf's in order to have control over the block dump and to rewrite it in the same place. If H-Jtag is capable to do the same tasks then fine.


Reply author: miotoo
Replied on: 15 Sep 2010 14:39:39
Message:

@ g_alin & ablbd,

I have recovered my C520T to a working state using the file in the first post (R37.3.9931.0816), for which I thank you very much for your advanced knowledge in this topic.

I did find however now in the windows folder of the device, that the version.txt file says the device is a C620. This doesnt make sense because the update for C520 was available in Nov. 2007 and the C620 was launched in Dec. 2007

Could it be that the posted firmware is not an original clean C520 version?

To try and confirm, I was looking everywhere for the original mio-posted update from end 2007. The original name was IBootformatans405_WEU.exe , any chance anyone of you still has it?

Also, @g_alin, do you still have the file originally posted by you here: http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/C520T_WEU_ROM_R37.3.9931.0816.zip ? or is it the same file uploaded in the first post and is the extract from krisvw smflash and not a different source?

Thanks for your help, sorry if its a long story of an older device - but then isn't reviving old devices part of this hobby? ;-)


Reply author: mighty34
Replied on: 15 Sep 2010 16:13:48
Message:

g_alin, ablbd

Can you tell me what kind of equipment I should have and what should I exactly do?

any help for me?

thanks in advance


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Sep 2010 18:58:23
Message:

miotoo,
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/IBootformatans405_WEU.exe
this file:
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/C520T_WEU_ROM_R37.3.9931.0816.zip
is the same with the one from the first page.

ablbd,
I have this Moov360 firmware (MOOV360_EU_ROM_V1.00.0021):
http://www.4shared.com/file/L1ggAVcX/SMFlash_0_26214400.html
There are several "settings areas" .. but the one that we need to change is at: 0x101000.
Can you help (write some simple - to follow - instructions by) mighty34 about how to download one specific block from flash? this way he can download and check inside with any hex editor for "LOCKED" - Case sensitive to see where is it in the flash ... I don't know how to help him with that ...


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 15 Sep 2010 20:06:36
Message:

hi g-alin

a friend in a greek forum had a problem with his mio moov 330
and he tryed to upgrade the firmware.
and now he has chinece letters

i have found this firmware in a chinise forum .
http://www.4shared.com/file/_kD6HU_I/mio_moov_300.html

if you see this firmware ,is the same with moov 330

can you tell me if it help?
what can we do to have again english lang?

this is a page from this forum with photo of his mio moov after upgrade
http://www.thegreekz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508920&page=2


Reply author: miotoo
Replied on: 16 Sep 2010 00:20:14
Message:

Thanks g_alin, I knew I could count on you!

Another question, maybe to ablbd:
I see in the original uboot.bin file, LOCKEDUT appears 2 times. If I edit both to UNLOCKED am I safe to flash the uboot and it means I will get the uboot blue menu if cold starting with any sd card in?

Thx


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 16 Sep 2010 09:16:01
Message:

@mighty34
Although the poor speed, is better to use a wiggler on parallel port(LPT). This involves a desktop/older laptop with native LPT port. USB-to-LPT adapters cannot be used!!!
As I wrote in previous post, I am modifying the apropriate sjf to handle one particular nand. I add a block dump option and change the "program" option if necessary. In case that a particular nand is not supported, I have to consult the data sheet and add code for it.
Please let me know the nand type and cpu type in your moov360 in order to "adapt" a sjf for your needs.

@g_alin
Phisical layout, as dumped on jtag, has nothing to do with the logical layout except several blocks at the beggining of nand. When formats smflash, uboot is creating somewhere(if I recall well, imediately after uboot code, on page alignment) a table which makes the physical-logical equivalence. I studied that table but until now I didn't figured out how it works... I guess this would take several hours/day for several weeks.

@miotoo
I am aware of that but never tryed to change in uboot at least for 2 reasons: a) is almost sure that one of them represents the string pattern used to write the marker in smflash partition; b) I avoid to rewrite uboot if is functional.
For unlocking purposes is enough to rewrite physical block 16(or around), which is not a "sensitive" area as it doesn't contain any code...
Shortly, the answer is NO, you are not safe.


Reply author: andrew64
Replied on: 16 Sep 2010 09:45:07
Message:

greetings to all
someone has the firmware of the Mio Moov 200 ita
cobia 300.v1.00.001.9


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 16 Sep 2010 13:42:53
Message:

@ablbd

Hi can u send the files needed to my Moov 360(M179) with S3C2443XL-40, cpu + K9GAG08U0M-PCB0 nand.
I'm using LPT connection + H-JTAG witch recognize to ARM920T 0x10920F0F i posted the picture before, but when i tryd SJF connection that doesnt recognize the cpu. on the H-JTAG site they said ads 1.2 possible to compile this kind of nand driver for hjtag-Hflasher but i dont know how to please help if u can
Thank u


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 16 Sep 2010 14:36:18
Message:

Hi ablbd,
I have lost contact with this Becker owner,
last time he said he could connect to the device
using Nyditot and his NAND is Mantas500B,
if I get more news I'll let you know.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 16 Sep 2010 19:27:39
Message:

marciport
I need little time to adapt sjf2443 for your nand. When ready, I'll post a link to it.

In order to spare time, download this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5V6WRTT9
Install giveio (from any sjf package) then run it with a dummy(but existing!) file in cmd line. It should give you a cpu id, please note it, then for Function to test input the number corresponding to "Programm K9G8G08". This is NOT your nand but it will give you the nand id, please note this too. According to data sheet, K9GAG08U0M nand should have ID 0x14D5 but it's better to be sure... Don't do any further operations with sjf, close it or "Exit".


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 16 Sep 2010 20:41:37
Message:

@abldb

ok this sjf was working the CPU ID=0x10920f0f, NAND ID=0xecd5
thank u for helping


Reply author: ice007
Replied on: 16 Sep 2010 22:00:54
Message:

Hello!
I have a Mio Moov M400. Two days agoo I have try to test various navigator software and unfortunatly I have modified path.xml file. The unit was unable to comunicate via usb to PC. I have read this topic and with all the information I opened the device, make it in blue screen (with pin9 to ground) and load image http://www.4shared.com/file/VguW6Xrz/winceimg_8.htm

On the device at boot I read version: R03.00.0775.STF64M

I'm looking for the original ROM (Mio MOOV M400), I remember was R07.xx

The unit is usable but I have found problems at GPU. With a special software for aircraft navigation, the buttons are invisible. Before I put the device in "usb dead mode" :-), with the original R07.xx ROM the graphic was OK.

So, I have look everywhere but I have not found it...
Please help me to found the original R07.xx ROM Image of Mio MOOV M400 or alternative one.

Many Thanks
Ice.
ITALY


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 17 Sep 2010 00:16:57
Message:

srelioskoz,
You have to load the ENG firmware to have English language support. The firmware its from a Moov_330_Cobia_410R2_CHN_V1.00.0013.

ablbd,
I was afraid of that ... now the only way is to 'manually' search that setting into the flash ...


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 17 Sep 2010 08:43:51
Message:

g_alin, the situation is not that bad. Until now all devices I dumped on jtag had the setting in physical block 16. This may change only if there is a bad block before block16, then most ptobably the block containing the setting is shifted 1 block upwards.

@marciport
I checked the source code of sjf I gave to you. Please run it again, enter "Program K9G808" menu. It will recognise your nand ID and will bring up the nand menu. Select "K9g8g08_DumpBlocks"; in this option I experimented with the 3'rd nand id which indicates the characteristics(page size, block size), you will find all those printed. Please note the values to compare with data sheet, then exit sjf. Further dump makes no sense because your nand has double page size as k9g0g08 but you can try: starting block=16, blocks to dump=1. If is not crashing then you will have in Block_16_16.bin 1'st half of each page and in OOB_16_16.bin 1'st half of the spare area content for each page. Upload them.
BTW, in order to repair your unit you should find a good one and dump first 5 blocks from it with the sjf I will prepare.


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 17 Sep 2010 13:27:52
Message:

@abldb

[SMC(K9G4G08, K9G8G08 or K9LAG08) NAND Flash block read]
Block Size: 0x20000, Page Size: 0x800
ID=ecd5(0xecxx)
i did the dump but only F's in the lines i uploaded
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=89RXQGKN


Reply author: miclmr
Replied on: 18 Sep 2010 14:23:58
Message:

Hi g_alin!
Thank you very much for this topic.
I would like to ask you one question.
I have MIO C-320 GPS and I would like to get it's factory made ROM, and install Compact FrameWork 2.0 on it and to add couple of Utilities. Then I would like to make "Cooked ROM" with these additions. So I should not have to install these additions every time I perform hard reset or even soft one.
It would be great to have a program like DiskRW that can read image not only from ROM, but from RAM in which Windows CE is installed. But unfortunately it is not possible.
Another way is to use ROMMasterCE, but it is very difficult to add files there, even delete files is not simple process, that obligates to update mem addresses manually.

Please suggest me a way how to solve this problem.
Thank you.


Reply author: jlagocki
Replied on: 19 Sep 2010 16:56:34
Message:

Hi ablbd,
our Becker 7928 friend has managed to brick his unit,
he couldn't load the rom in any way, so he used
DiskRW instead and loaded image into MSFlash.
H did try very hard to access the blue Menu screen
without any success, now hi has disconnected the battery
and is waiting for miracle to happen, have you got any
advice, besides the J-tag metod, for him, maybe how to find the means
of accessing this damned Becker


Reply author: mighty34
Replied on: 19 Sep 2010 22:21:35
Message:

hi ablbd,

I have Mio C520; CPU Samsung 2443--400Mhz

How should I know nand type?
I dissasemble my Mio C520 but I don't know what to read there.

LPT cable is not a problem. Port either. How should I connect lpt to mio c520

thanks in advance



Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 09:16:01
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

@mighty34
Although the poor speed, is better to use a wiggler on parallel port(LPT). This involves a desktop/older laptop with native LPT port. USB-to-LPT adapters cannot be used!!!
As I wrote in previous post, I am modifying the apropriate sjf to handle one particular nand. I add a block dump option and change the "program" option if necessary. In case that a particular nand is not supported, I have to consult the data sheet and add code for it.
Please let me know the nand type and cpu type in your moov360 in order to "adapt" a sjf for your needs.


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 19 Sep 2010 23:37:39
Message:

@mighty34

U have to open up your device to know the nand type i think.

For the lpt connection u can try this,: u have to use multimeter to find out which pin is which cable inside the lpt, here's a picture how look like the port where have to make soldering and which pins are needed to make connect with JTAG
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3036/s3c2443jtag.jpg
first picture from mio_Cx device the other is my moov_360 board
its working on this two boards have to work on your, so if u have the same port on your board just have to follow the picture to make a connection
but if you don't have strong electronics knowledge recommend to don't try it.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 13:41:44
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by marciport

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3036/s3c2443jtag.jpg



I would't use this simple connection having ONLY limitting rezistors as it may damage the board... Better use a buffered wiggler!

Edit: meantime I finished sjf2443 to support also K9GAG08 nand: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SU0YB3G2

Use "dump" option to copy from good device ca 4 blocks starting at block0 then use "program 128 pages" to write in the bricked one. I just hope that ECC will be ok by using 4bit ECC/512 bytes data as this sjf will also fill the spare area. Please upload both dumped files from the good one: I'd like to have them and to see how it looks the spare area (OOB file).
The naming convention is Block_ or OOB_(out-of-band=spare area), starting block, ending block in the dump (in case of 4 blocks, numbers will be 0_3), extension "bin".


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 14:46:29
Message:

@ablbd

thank u for the file but which option shoud i choose i don't see K9GAG08 at list, and the only way to fix to find a working one?, this smflash img can't help somehow?

.....................................................................
ablbd,
I have this Moov360 firmware (MOOV360_EU_ROM_V1.00.0021):
http://www.4shared.com/file/L1ggAVcX/SMFlash_0_26214400.html
There are several "settings areas" .. but the one that we need to change is at: 0x101000.
Can you help (write some simple - to follow - instructions by) mighty34 about how to download one specific block from flash? this way he can download and check inside with any hex editor for "LOCKED" - Case sensitive to see where is it in the flash ... I don't know how to help him with that ...


Reply author: bxtc
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 15:20:31
Message:

Hi G alin Please help my Navman MY50T got the firmware stuff up now it stay in the blue screen and can not do nothing no usb either
I do a base by SD/MMC (format ) waiting !! BootSEC is in sector 135!!
Mountdisk succsess!
Open CEimage ...
can not find WINCEIMG.CKS any key to continues
Any solution ??? if take the micro sd card out then it turn out to be black when do hard reset . Put back the card then it go to blue screen but can not do any thing How can I go back to USB mode or any other way to boot it up
My file download is cobia_420_64.zip
http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html
and change the file name to SEEKER_T510
Run Memory tool / ROM checkSum Calculate
Uboot Region CheckSum=0x01c3b762
Region Checksum =0x5fa00000
Image region Checksum=0x8e700000

Memory Test Image checksum error any key continues

Please be gentle my first post and read alot
Thank you everyone's


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 15:26:28
Message:

@marciport
Sorry, was compiled with "debug" option and you get the version without k9gag08 support.
This time should work http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YPQE1NO6

I understod that you overwrited the bootloaders, so issue is different from mighty34's. For unlocking he has to dump (hopefully) block #16, edit it and reflash it in same place. If hes device has different processor and/or nand, he needs a different sjf. For lack of time I cannot follow backwards who which type of device has.


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 18:13:59
Message:

@ablbd

thank u this working i think mighty34 dont have 360 just an C520 device this he's origan post: (Two days ago my Mio C520 got failured After I disconnect it from PC in the morning, I notice it was freezed. I restarted it and I got: Fatal Application Error:
Application Launcher.exe has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. If the problem persist, contact the program vendor.
Program: Launcher.exe
Exception: 0xC0000005
Address: 037FE210
I cannot get abything else. Orange Mio screen and this message
R02+3+9911+1018
I was using MioPacket 3.0 with Primo on it I saw that someone else has the same problem Any chance to solve this?)
so someone flipped up the posts at the beggining looks like :)

Mine is this Cobia_420_64 cpu:S3C2443XL-40+ nanad:K9GAG08U0M-PCB0
http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html and this img from g_alin
so can i fix this another way somehow? because its gonna pretty hard to find another good one except someone post it here a working dump:)
a little problem when it try to print block getting this error
Unhandled exception at 0xffffffff in SJF2443.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0xffffffff.
The dump part is working


Reply author: ice007
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 20:28:27
Message:

@g_alin

I'm in trouble with my Mio MOOV M400. My friend give me his SMFlash.img file from his M400 device. If I send it you, can you please extract for me the winceimg.bin file? So I can repair my one. Thank you very much.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 21:00:15
Message:

@marciport
Print option should work, most probably your input was wrong. This option is printing 1 page at a time, so you have to input a valid block number (between 0 and 4095) and a valid page number (between 0 and 127)

There is no other way for you unless somebody has a copy (dumped via jtag) of the first 4 blocks, which I hardly believe because is not so easy to make it. Except my modified sjf's, there are not many ways to copy blocks from nand. Most probably some expensive applications would have support for this nand type and would dump it but the prices are not for hobbysts. It can be done also by a complicated script using OpenOCD.
Another way is to unsolder the nand and read it using an universal programmer, which again is quite expensive.


Reply author: marciport
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 21:38:00
Message:

@abldb

thank u for your helping than i try to get working device or, if somebody have same device maybe he can postit

So if someone can post Cobia_420_64 cpu:S3C2443XL-40+ nanad:K9GAG08U0M-PCB0 block dump of first 4 block please post it thanks

for infrom i tried some differnt input combinations at the print option still crash but truly
that option dont necessary to fix the device
so thank u again for this modified sjf if i found a working device i will post the dump.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 22:05:25
Message:

You're right, I forgot to adjust the read buffer. Now should work the list option too: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I3ANLVVR


Reply author: bxtc
Replied on: 20 Sep 2010 23:42:53
Message:

OK now try to explain again what I need is a boot up from sd card with the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin . Accident I lost all and now my Navman MY50T with blue screen after
My file download is cobia_420_64.zip
http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html
and change the file name to SEEKER_T510

I now there is wrong region but I only hope that someone's can give me a tips how to fix it

Thank you very much and I still keep looking for HELP

I can not find the firmware anywhere so I do the big mistake here

I need is a boot up from sd card with the files winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin PLEASE


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Sep 2010 00:15:02
Message:

miclmr,
ROMMasterCE (if it works ... and I think it works with your GPS ...) its a pice of cake compared to a 'suite of tools written in C or Perl' that you need to run in command line ...
Now to get back to the subject: There are some advices on this forum ... If you need help on how to make the setup for 'cocking ROM' using the ROMMasterCE5 let me know ... I can help you with that ... but you have to understant the unlock that you want o apply -> in order to change the ROM step by step (as the unlock does with your RAM).

bxtc,
If you want to change (upgrade/downgrade) your firmware ... you need to have the firmware that you want to write. Or you can download the SMFlash from other identical device and I can try to extract the firmware from there.
I don't know anyone (on this forum ...) that knows how to boot from SDCard ...
That software (http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html) its only to give you the option to upgrade (its not the firmware ...).

ice007,
I tried to extract it some time a go and didn't work ... I don't know why ... upload it and I will do my best.


Reply author: bxtc
Replied on: 21 Sep 2010 08:31:59
Message:

so that mean I have to wait and pray if anyone come up with this navman my50T please support it very new device about 3 month old and now become door stopper
I just want it connect back to USB if possible even better can I put the windows CE 5.0 in there so can use IGO8 forget about the SmartST_CE

Please help


Reply author: bxtc
Replied on: 21 Sep 2010 09:21:16
Message:

quote:
bxtc,
If you want to change (upgrade/downgrade) your firmware ... you need to have the firmware that you want to write. Or you can download the SMFlash from other identical device and I can try to extract the firmware from there.
I don't know anyone (on this forum ...) that knows how to boot from SDCard ...
That software (http://www.4shared.com/file/194360726/ff50dd57/cobia_420_64.html) its only to give you the option to upgrade (its not the firmware ...).



That mean it too late for me to do anything with this now It only stuck in the blue screen not boot to any where and only that sd card can boot it to blue screen the rest is when I boot up it come with all black and nothing happen


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 21 Sep 2010 12:06:17
Message:

g_alin
I want to modify my nand dumper in order to "see" also SMFlash. The reason why is not seing smflash is that this device is not mounted during regular operation and I am checking only the mounted ones. SMFlash doesn't appear in the HKLM\Drivers\Active list.
Could you upload some registry backups from Mio device(s) you have at home?


Reply author: bxtc
Replied on: 21 Sep 2010 14:00:47
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by ablbd

g_alin
I want to modify my nand dumper in order to "see" also SMFlash. The reason why is not seing smflash is that this device is not mounted during regular operation and I am checking only the mounted ones. SMFlash doesn't appear in the HKLM\Drivers\Active list.
Could you upload some registry backups from Mio device(s) you have at home?


Maybe this idea can help my navman survice (live again )


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Sep 2010 19:17:53
Message:

ablbd,
http://www.4shared.com/file/jSDj8EFP/reg_temp.html
You have here all generations: Cx10, Cx20, Moov, MoovS, and Moov'R2'. The M series (with two OSs) lets try to figure out later on sometimes - for now there are many 'unknown' things about this series ...

bxtc,
You can wait for someone to upload the SMFlash or you can try to find one and download it your self.


Reply author: ice007
Replied on: 21 Sep 2010 22:12:35
Message:

@g_alin
Thank You!
You can find the SMFlash img file of original MIO MOOV M400 (not yet modified) at: http://www.4shared.com/file/QU27LcSJ/R09STF64.html
Bye
Ice


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 22 Sep 2010 03:33:29
Message:

ice007,
Let me know if it works:
http://www.4shared.com/file/pIMu0bsx/Moov_M400_NA_R09000896STF64M.html


Reply author: bxtc
Replied on: 22 Sep 2010 09:24:14
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

ablbd,
http://www.4shared.com/file/jSDj8EFP/reg_temp.html
You have here all generations: Cx10, Cx20, Moov, MoovS, and Moov'R2'. The M series (with two OSs) lets try to figure out later on sometimes - for now there are many 'unknown' things about this series ...

bxtc,
You can wait for someone to upload the SMFlash or you can try to find one and download it your self.


thanks Bro I'd rather wait can not do much anyway it blue dead now


Reply author: bxtc
Replied on: 22 Sep 2010 10:59:22
Message:

Can I make it boot as windows CE or Android stand alone forget about the blue screen .
Say this is the new device with the android . How is that sound ?
First thing first Help me to get out the blue screen and I try to connect to USB that importance
Any help here ?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 22 Sep 2010 18:05:27
Message:

bxtc,
:) if you manage to do that ... tell us how. I don't think someone can tell you how to do that ...


Reply author: miclmr
Replied on: 22 Sep 2010 19:45:06
Message:

Hi g_alin,
If it is possible, please help me to assemble 'cocking ROM' using the ROMMasterCE5.

Now I have another problem. I've prepared ROM image of my MIO C320 with the diskrw.exe and i've extracted it not to the ROM, but to inner flash memory (1GB). I intended to copy all the OS files to my PC. But now my GPS hangs on first screen (red screen MIO Digi Walker) and even doesn't starts the menu.
I tried to restore from the windowsce.bin file made by ROMMasterCE5, but I can't enter Super Mode. Because it hangs before running something.
Now I will try to end the battery, but I don't believe that it can affect the Flash memory.
Please tell me, whether is it possible to correct this problem.

Thank you!


Reply author: ice007
Replied on: 22 Sep 2010 20:01:27
Message:

@g_alin -> THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH!! g_alin !!!
It works perfectly !!!
Now I'm at R09.00.0896.STF64M

The device is now ready for usb connection with pc, the graphic is ok...
Thank you a lot!!

I share this winceimg.bin Firmware R09.00.0896.STF64M for Mio MOOV M400
http://www.4shared.com/file/pIMu0bsx/Moov_M400_NA_R09000896STF64M.html
by
Ice007


Reply author: bxtc
Replied on: 22 Sep 2010 23:40:22
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

bxtc,
:) if you manage to do that ... tell us how. I don't think someone can tell you how to do that ...


Send back for the service and pay for the ichy hand


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 02:05:31
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

ice007,
Let me know if it works:



This again was a triky dump, I can't understand what is the reason to duplicate one xip section; anyhow, the 1'st occurence had to be eliminated and the last 2 preserved, isn't it?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 03:45:56
Message:

miclmr,
Press the power button for 10 sec. (to perform hardware reset).

ablbd,
Yes (you can figure out from HEADER.bin - first part of the firmware upgrade that can be found into the SMFlash somewhere).
The question is: how you can activate the second OS? hardware? software? and why is needed?


Reply author: miclmr
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 10:43:26
Message:

Hi g_alin!
I tried to do hardware reset and even disconnected the battery, but nothing helps.
I see version number and afterwards Red Screen. Nothing more.
I think that I've damaged inner HDD (1GB) partitions, when I wrote ROM image to it.
So I suppose that it doesn't have place in RAM where Windows CE may be deployed.
May be you know how it is possible to boot from SD Card, so I will be able to perform format and mount HDD parts myself.

Thank you.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 11:16:01
Message:

g_alin
You'll be surprised: I separated that so-called 1'st image and is NOT a rom image... I would say this is kinda extension of uboot, somethig like a reduced NK, which is used by uboot to load some esential drivers and to make some registry settings. In all MS wince documentation is stated that bootloader either can use stuff from kernel or is partly combined with it. I think that in this case they didn't "combined" uboot with the kernel but added some parts from xipkernel and/or NK which uboot is accessing, loading in ram at NK's VA and use for system initialisation BEFORE "loading" the 2 xip images. After "loading" the 2 good images, NK will overwrite in RAM this initialisation part. I guess the ideea was a) to simplify uboot code(otherwise it would eat-up too much reserved nand space) and b)to speed-up the loading time as nand and some other drivers are allready in RAM when the images are actually read from nand and "loaded" (in fact the BINFileSystem is created) in ram.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 14:58:11
Message:

If a New Mio will be started for the first time.

There will be a small winceimg.bin that is inside a map with the
SKuid number as name be loaded into the device.
maybe this have something to do with the 2 parts off the rom.

If needed i have one of these winceimg.bin file's.

Have a nice day
Kener


Reply author: uhi711
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 18:29:01
Message:

Hi everyone,

After searching all forums on this site without any result, I decided to post my question in this topic which seems to be still active. I have a Mio Moov 300, I think the european version.
I tried to install iGO8 instead of MioMap without reading anything about Mio Moov 300 devices. Now I can't access it because I lost the usb connection and iGO8 doesn't work because it was not set-up in the right way.
What I have done is, copying iGO8 to root of the flash memory and changing the paths.xml file to point to the iGO8.exe applications.
What happens when I start the device is that I see the mio orange screen and after that I get a message box error saying "Program application database cannot be found" that has an "OK" button. Pressing the ok button doesn't do anything.
What I found is that after playing with the sd card (in/out) I manage to get a different message box asking me if I want to reset the program to factory defaults and lose all my pois etc. The message box has two buttons "yes" and "no". After pressing the "yes" button I get the same message error like in the first case (program app database ....). This means that the device tries to start igo8.exe but something goes wrong.
I would like to use the flash mode interface/menu (grounding of pin 9) but I do not have the original firmware. I tried all soft methods I found in these forums, but nothing works, that is my mio does not boot from sd card.
Can anybody help me, please? I badly need the mio moov 300EU firmware.

Thank you in advance,
Daniel


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 19:03:41
Message:

Daniel, several month ago I had to start such a device and I had no suitable rom, so I used Moov330EU and worked fine. Read backwards this topic, I remember that not too long time ago it was uploaded a moov300 rom made from a smflash dump.


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 19:14:02
Message:

@uhi711

The not foud database have to do with
wrong path inside sys.txt from igo
you need to edit this.

To boot from sd card search for the needed solution
inside the read-me file from miopocket.
Or use the one from the start page in this topic but only as last resort.

See also my post on page 58

Have a nice day

Kener


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 21:08:31
Message:

miclmr,
One question: You have an old type C320 (launched three, four years a go)?
When you started (before you brick it) the device you have seen four icons (same like in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0eNA8_JajM)

ablbd,
Interesting ... that make me remember: Why to make things simple, when you make them complicated!

kener,
You are talking about Moov_M400? It will be interesting ... to take a look anyway.


Reply author: miclmr
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 21:22:36
Message:

g_alin,
I think that I have an old type of the device.
I've bought it in 2007.
Yes, I have seen 4 icons.
I also have SD Card Slot.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 23 Sep 2010 22:37:44
Message:

miclmr,
Can you check if mioautorun.exe will be executed from SDCard (when you insert the SDCard)?


Reply author: miclmr
Replied on: 24 Sep 2010 00:12:35
Message:

g_alin,
I tried mioautorun.exe from Root Directory of SD Card and even 2577\Autorun.exe, but there is no reaction. SD Memory is OK. So I can read/write to it in my PC Card Reader.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 24 Sep 2010 03:56:09
Message:

miclmr,
It is very strange that you where able to brick the device. Old models don't use the My Flash disk until you press the MioMap icon ... the Main window is in ROM and (theoretically) thant can't be changed by accident (when you copy something ...)
Do you have the knowledge and tools to connect GPS to PC (through JTAG)?
some information you can find: http://www.4shared.com/file/jb3lLCDg/MIO_x20_Jtag.html
ans also: http://www.4shared.com/file/JAIsslVX/RecoverMioCX20.html


Reply author: kener
Replied on: 24 Sep 2010 19:47:03
Message:

g_lin

No sorry it a MoovS505_EU (ROM_SEEKER.R16.00.0773.STF128M)
and the file is a region.bin ,so think not usefull.

here is it anyway.

http://www.mediafire.abc/?8vy69hhwdth6l4j

Change abc to com

Have a nice day
Kener


Reply author: miclmr
Replied on: 26 Sep 2010 10:45:51
Message:

Hi g_alin,
Thank you for your advice with JTAG tools.
It works fine.
It reads and writes information.
But now I can not see the blue screen with menu.
The screen is always black.
I'am not even sure that the screen is alive.
Did you encountered such a strange bahaviour?

Thank you very much!


Reply author: miclmr
Replied on: 26 Sep 2010 20:30:03
Message:

Hi g_alin,
Now it WORKS!!!!!
Thank you!!!


Reply author: b.breum
Replied on: 27 Sep 2010 14:32:18
Message:

wauu a lot of reading
Im trying to figure out how to get TMC to working with anything else than miomap2008
I may have done something not quite right since I now have to doubletab the smartST icon each time to start the miomap
also I have the miopocket and rightclich and some other icons always there on startup
I also have the entire filestructure of miopocket in the start menu.
So it seems to be unlocked in some way. Im the 2nd owner of it.
How do I reset this device to original state (or if the new firmware does anything for it) How do I upgrade the firmware.
I have all that came with the gps from the start, ie, cords, dvd and so on.
Should I use this from mio?
https://register.navman.com/installer/?BRANDNAME=mio&HARDWARENAME=SEEKER_FT525&SKUID=9248&DISPLAYNAME=Moov%20370
So the questions are.
1. How to restore my mio moov 370 back to original state (I dont have a copy of my flash disk since it may have been unlocked from the start)
2. Is there anything gained in updating firmware.
3. Has anyone gotten TMC to work on this (aimed for kener)
4. Can I install miomap2008 on it when i have the original dvd and will BT and TMC work as it does now?

I have these files
Moov370_EU(N179) (ROM_V1.00.0019_Cobia_T420_64_V_5.50.0212) http://www.4shared.com/file/YHquQBF3/Moov370_EU_ROM_V1000019.html
and this
1)how to upgrade mio moov firmware
http://www.4shared.com/file/191674275/ad12bab0/cobia_420_64.html

and I have read all 71 pages (easier on the printerfriendly view) and man it was a lot to read but hopefully You guys can help me.
I would just love to be able to use IGO or Navigon instead of miomap -(using navigon demo with BT working but no TMC) - but without TMC I'll stick with buying new maps for miomap.


Reply author: hallx
Replied on: 27 Sep 2010 17:18:24
Message:

Hy g_alin, I've replaced the appstart.exe from a mio moov500 with 100010 firmware and so I tried the 9 pin method...all good ,it worked. I've downloaded a earlier rom for it because i couldn't find another so i tried to install v1000004. After i've selected the install from sd with format is read the img and went to 100% and then nothing... it blanked....dead..... and it wont open. Any ideas what I could do? Or is it dead for good?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Sep 2010 20:20:56
Message:

miclmr,

congratulation ... can you write a short story: How to recover C series with JTAG (there are some users with GWES error ... maybe they can recover in the same way ...)?
If you need help with ROMMasterCE5 let me know.

b.breum,

1. How to restore my mio moov 370 back to original state (I dont have a copy of my flash disk since it may have been unlocked from the start)
If you don't know how was unlock ... you may bricked very easy.
My advice will be FISRT of ALL: activate the UPGRADE SCREEN: this way you can always upgrade firmware (and delete the My FLash Disk if was malformed in a wrong way)
2. Is there anything gained in updating firmware.
Depends on the model ... somethime Yes (maybe more windows components ... sometime more stable)
(other questions: I don't know the answer)

hallx,

If you managed to get into the BLUE SCREEN once (with pin 9) you should be able to get there also second time ...
Regarding the firmware you need to find out if you have a Moov500 or a Moov500R2 device. Try to find (somewhere localy ...) an identical device and download the SMFlash.img. You can find out if its R2 or not from BLUE SCREEN (if you have Upgrade Base and Region probably you have Moov500R2 and you need to have 4 files 2xwinceimg + 2xregion (if you want to change also the region ... probably not ...) - the Moov500 has the region inside the winceimg.bin file so when you upgrade you will change also the region ... this is the reason why I recommend to find localy a GPS).
LE:
VERY IMPORTANT:
The firmware MOOV500_EU (ROM_V1.00.0004) its for R2 version and the right name should be: MOOV500R2_EU (ROM_T510R2.V1.00.0004) ... sorry for confusion. I will update also first page.


Reply author: miclmr
Replied on: 27 Sep 2010 22:05:32
Message:

Hi g_alin,
I will translate the manual from russian to english, and I will send you it.
In the worst case you will need to translate it from my english to american one. :)

Please help me with ROMMasterCE5.

I would like to ask you to send me link to uboot.bin and uboot.cks files, because the files that were given in manual, starts UT Menu, when SD Card is

inside, after each reset, even if there are no files on SD Card. So I would like to restore my first uboot.

In my case the recovering process was unusually difficult. After that I've opened windowsce.img that was made by DiskRW to FD with DiskRW software, all sectors were filled with zeros. uboot and win ce image were both damaged. So I had to use long-time recovery method (with SJF2443_Mio.exe) in order to recover all the information. And afterwards short-time with NoICE in order to run the recovered information.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Sep 2010 00:44:49
Message:

miclmr,

Thank you for your support ... that will be appreciated ....
original uboot is: http://www.4shared.com/file/OzamhomC/original_uboot.html
I updated also the RecoverMioCX20.zip package with the original uboot (for an easy recover process).

1.make a folder: "C:\kit\RomMasterCE5"
2.download "http://www.4shared.com/file/gZHGayL8/ROMMasterCE_ver199.html"
3.unzip the content into folder "C:\kit\RomMasterCE5" (you'll have the folder 'ver.1.9.9' into the folder 'C:\kit\RomMasterCE5')
4.make a folder 'resource' in the same folder 'C:\kit\RomMasterCE5'
5.place there the SMFlash.img file.
6.open software and choose settings Mio_C320NA
7.press Extract ROMs to OUT => now the rom will be split into many files in a structure of folder (check the 'xxx_OUT' folders)
8.now comes the fun part ... with changing the pieces (or adding new ones). For now you should modify only files from XIP.bin .. press Change across the XIP label
9.press Add File
10. Press Move pTOC to END (this procedure with move pTOC will be done only once) -> to have space later on to add new files.
11. if you want to add one file (or not too many files) use: Add File tab (before you have to write manually after '...files\' the name of the file) and press Add file button.
11_.If you want to add may file (for example all the files from folder 'C:\Kit\RomMasterCE5\files\') use Batch Add Files tab and press button Add all files ... and all the files from folder 'C:\Kit\RomMasterCE5\files\' will be automatically added to ROM.
12. close that form (add files)
13. close also Change ROM
14. OPTIONAL: you can check RAM_MAP (and ROM_MAP) press Check RAM MAP and check the file 'C:\kit\RomMasterCE5\resource\RAMMAP.txt'
15. Press Pack ROM from OUT (the inverse of Extract)
16. and make the winceimg.bin files ...

that should be all ...

Now the hard part will be to change the registry ... that is for advanced users ... let me know if you want to do something like that
As a work around you can use MortScript check the registry and if are not changed to be changed (so first time after reset when are not changed will be updated by MortScrip and after that when you restart ... they will be already changed so the MortScript will check if are changed and is not going to upload again the registry settings ...) or .. something like that ...


Reply author: hallx
Replied on: 28 Sep 2010 07:11:05
Message:

g_alin
The problem is that it won't enter boot mode, actualy even the on led won't start unless i put the usb cable in and that is all it does do: light the led. The battery is fully charged and I don't know what else to do. So when i put the cable the led is green (shouldn't it be orange?) , but no action on the screen.


Reply author: b.breum
Replied on: 28 Sep 2010 09:50:33
Message:

Thank you for your speedy reply g_alin.
My mio has this number on the boot screen 1000019 same as this it seems http://www.4shared.com/file/YHquQBF3/Moov370_EU_ROM_V1000019.html

When I have activated the upgrade screen and installed the beforementioned eu_rom how to I go about installing the software miomap2008
i have checked and it isnt on the dvd they send.I have now got a copy thanks to john doe of the folders on my flash disk. Should I just recopy them to the GPS and then copy over the maps and it will work?
sorry if my questions are foolish but I really like this gps and enjoy the TMC


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Sep 2010 19:17:28
Message:

hallx,

"shouldn't it be orange?"
only when is charging is orange, when its fully charged will be green.
I don't know what to recommend you ... do you think you damaged your device? Do you have the electrical knowledge to connect your GPS to JTAG?

b.breum,

you should use the manufacturer recovery method:
https://register.navman.com/installer/?BRANDNAME=mio&HARDWARENAME=SEEKER_FT525&SKUID=9248&DISPLAYNAME=Moov%20370


Reply author: miclmr
Replied on: 02 Oct 2010 13:26:18
Message:

Hi g_alin,
As I promised, I've translated the guide how to Recover Mio CX20.
You can download the translated version from here within one week: https://rcpt.yousendit.com/959732583/ca8fbccb2373e3395f3d87e89dc8e299
If you suspect that something is wrong in my translation, please let me know and I will take a look the source file again.

I would like to ask you another thing. I wrote the program Serial Port Viewer (runs on CF 2.0)
Please download it here: http://www.yousendit.com/download/WTNLNWNqVEhwTVZFQlE9PQ
I have MIO C320 and I can not identify the GPS Protocol. It is not NMEA and not Sirf Binary Protocol.
When I connect to the port 2, I receive for example the following data:

080, 178, 148, 120, 056, 142, 229, 089, 223, 188, 109, 017, 160, 052, 104, 089, 180, 052, 209, 167, 182, 178, 216, 026, 020, 226, 180, 212, 155, 190, 078, 027, 150, 182, 252, 022, 044, 182, 062, 120, 082, 100, 090, 011, 022, 079, 091, 115, 208, 075, 129, 225, 216, 054, 067, 223, 255, 022, 109, 030, 120, 216, 148, 104, 108, 150, 112, 158, 003, 158, 079, 056, 208, 082, 255, 210, 236, 182, 094, 188, 079, 188, 045, 114, 182, 090, 112, 158, 156, 075, 011, 009, 124, 180, 041, 082, 236, 182, 105, 190, 180, 109, 176, 188, 120, 061, 052, 080, 203, 188, 121, 242, 124, 158, 045, 045, 057, 166, 188, 120, 180, 121, 184, 182, 182, 125, 240, 156, 181, 183, 120, 242, 207, 148, 091, 151, 182, 182, 178, 030, 180, 188, 120, 095, 252, 056, 180, 056, 182, 182, 091, 105, 190, 180, 109, 176, 240, 180, 206, 254, 022, 109, 030, 216, 182, 060, 240, 104, 108, 108, 182, 108, 190, 190, 188, 002, 240, 025, 052, 112, 082, 109, 094, 062, 182, 060, 218, 075, 206, 156, 182, 156, 158, 028, 075, 156, 056, 208, 082, 255, 022, 109, 094, 182, 182, 060, 190, 075, 206, 028, 182, 156, 222, 120, 075, 028, 056, 208, 082, 104, 150, 108, 060, 067, 223, 255, 022, 108, ...

I know that Sirf Binary Protocol message has the form A0A2...
I know that Serial Port Viewer works properly so I can identify protocols on other GPS devices.
I also think that gps receiver is ok because iGO8 works fine.
Please, if you have MIO C320, try Serial Port Viewer, may be I have incompatible firmware.

Thank you.


Reply author: SSJZoRaN
Replied on: 02 Oct 2010 17:24:04
Message:

can somebody help me to recover my mio moov 500?
its stuck at laoding screen.
after i reset press on it's stuck at boot screen (MIO EXPLORE logo ) but no loading.
firmware r2 v1.0000004.
The problem is that there is no usb connection,i can't revert the settings.
how could i fix the usb or reset the the software?

@g_alin pls give me your yahoo mess..(is roman,al meu e zoro_best1)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 04 Oct 2010 22:15:22
Message:

miclmr,
thank you for translation ...
regarding serial protocol is NMEA 'ex: objGPS.setSerialPort("COM2", 57600)'
one friend ask me once to write a software to acquire the places where is going ... take a look http://www.4shared.com/file/F-1iDxNX/TRK_ver120.html its working on C320 (tested)

SSJZoRaN,
you can use the 'pin 9' trick ... on the first page you have the right firmware and all the necessary information. If you have problems let us know.


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 06 Oct 2010 14:41:23
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by b.breum

Thank you for your speedy reply g_alin.
My mio has this number on the boot screen 1000019 same as this it seems http://www.4shared.com/file/YHquQBF3/Moov370_EU_ROM_V1000019.html

When I have activated the upgrade screen and installed the beforementioned eu_rom how to I go about installing the software miomap2008
i have checked and it isnt on the dvd they send.I have now got a copy thanks to john doe of the folders on my flash disk. Should I just recopy them to the GPS and then copy over the maps and it will work?
sorry if my questions are foolish but I really like this gps and enjoy the TMC



Hi, Yes just copy the files over as the manufacturers way does not work.
If you need the file structure let me know.


Reply author: Angel5
Replied on: 06 Oct 2010 23:45:27
Message:

Hello,
I have an Mio Moov 300 (Cobia_400_64_NA) and I want to rewrite windows but I receive an error when I want to do this.

"Download File too large!!
Any key to continue"

Any ideas on that?

Thanks!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 07 Oct 2010 01:21:50
Message:

Angel5,
can you list us the menu items that you see in BLUE SCREEN? and also the firmware version that you tried to upload ...


Reply author: Angel5
Replied on: 07 Oct 2010 09:02:52
Message:

First:
0=WINCE Upgrade
1=GPS Tools
2=BT Tools
3=UBOOT Upgrade
4=Memory Tools
5=Other Tools

I choose 0 then On/Off

Second:
0=WINCE by SD/MMC (Format)
1=WINCE by SD/MMC
2=WINCE BY USB (Format)
3=WINCE by USB
4=Exit

I choose 0 then On/Off


Then: Waiting!! BOOTSEC is in Sector 253!! MountDisk SUCCESS! Open CEimage...
Download File too large!! Any key to continue


Reply author: Angel5
Replied on: 07 Oct 2010 16:02:19
Message:

Anyway, I used an image from Mio Moov 330 (Cobia_410_64). Everything is fine until now, copied iGO Primo on flash disk, created a custom paths.xml. iGO starts fine. I didn't have much time to test it more.

One question though, iGO is on Flash Disk and maps are on SDCard. How can I tell iGO to "look" on the SDCard for maps. All other contents are on Flash Disk.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 07 Oct 2010 19:08:06
Message:

Angel5,
you have a moov300 and you loaded the firmware from moov330? if you find an identical device and download the SMFlash.img I can extract the right firmware for your device.


Reply author: Angel5
Replied on: 08 Oct 2010 10:02:09
Message:

Yes, I have a moov300 and loaded a moov330 firmware. Works fine, no problems with that. For now I paused testing because I managed to broke the power button, that small piece of plastic that connects the button with the housing slide :(.

I can't find another device, this belongs to a friend of mine. I don't have too many GPS friends :P.


Reply author: piroska2
Replied on: 09 Oct 2010 13:43:43
Message:

Hi Everybody!

I'd like to upgrade my ROM and I search a fresh ROM (winceimg.cks and winceimg.bin files)
My device's Moov 310

Can You help me?


Reply author: Hellrayser
Replied on: 09 Oct 2010 20:44:06
Message:

@ Angel5
Try this
1.Download windows version for your device
2.in boot mode choose:
5.other tool
3.choose Format , 3 times (remember OFF & ON )
4.choose Exit
5.WINCE upgrade
6.WINCE By SD/MMC (Format)


Reply author: widi
Replied on: 10 Oct 2010 13:20:58
Message:

Hi g_alin!

Create SMFlash.img file from Mio C720B (R01_EEU) with DiskRW program.
Can you please convert the to *.bin ROM file.
http://data.hu/get/3059938/C720B.zip

Thanks!


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 10 Oct 2010 22:49:23
Message:

@widi
I guess we are using more or less the same "technology", so here are your files for C720B: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6XYTLF9F


Reply author: widi
Replied on: 11 Oct 2010 06:49:25
Message:

@ablbd
Works perfectly! Thank you!


Reply author: juanvicente
Replied on: 11 Oct 2010 22:17:56
Message:

Hello g_alin:

I have a 268 + DigiWalker MioMap MioMap. When updating the BIOS-ROM hadr-reset 'to the version r16 (WinCEIMG.BIN), the process ends at 100%. To accept and start the GPS, the screen is white with blue lines and does not start. Neither USB PC detects the MIO 268. I downloaded the R4 factory version. But to put it in the SD and attempt a Hard-reset, the screen remains blank and I can not put the option to upgrade 1 = WINCE by SD / MMC ol
the 0 = WINCE by ... DiskRW I installed the program on your PC and gives error indicating that the application can not run on the PC. Need some way to install the R4 version that I have copied to the SD in the MIO 268 +.

Sincerely,


Juan Vicente


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 11 Oct 2010 22:25:10
Message:

juanvicente,
DiskRW must be used on the GPS (not on the PC) - this is a wince application (not winXP application). You need to upload those firmware versions if you want me to take a look ...


Reply author: Inc0gnit0
Replied on: 12 Oct 2010 22:52:38
Message:

g_alin hello, i have V735TV stucked on boot black screen with version MOOV735.R13.VT705.0520 and nothing more start! need rom upgrade files, can i ask ur help pls


Reply author: eagle1313
Replied on: 13 Oct 2010 13:07:35
Message:

Hi... I have managed to upgrade my mio c310... after reset it gives me the message "Carefully press and briefly hold stylus on the center of the target. Repeat as the target moves around the screen" - I d othis like 50 times, and nothing happened... can't find a way to get rid of this screen.

Is it some sort of bug or?

I used: C310_ENG_RUS_ROM_R36F.3.1100.0702


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 13 Oct 2010 13:28:52
Message:

Sometimes Mio gets stuck on this screen just do a soft reset and try again.


Reply author: eagle1313
Replied on: 13 Oct 2010 13:43:33
Message:

Will try


Reply author: eagle1313
Replied on: 13 Oct 2010 13:45:39
Message:

It worked... Thank you very much!!!


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 13 Oct 2010 17:56:30
Message:

g_alin hello I have a problem.
Switching on my c620 and the next message is receiving:

MioMap cannot be launched because certain files are missing.
Please try to recover MioMap from DVD or CD.
since I dont have recovery disk can I install something else like V3.3 or igo8

here is my SMflash maybe it helps:
http://www.easy-share.com/1912615844/SMFlash_0_23068672

thanks


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 13 Oct 2010 22:28:11
Message:

Inc0gnit0,
you need to download the SMFlash from an identical device ... we don't have the firmware for that model.

sonycam,
I tried twice to download (without success ...). I will try later on ...


Reply author: Inc0gnit0
Replied on: 14 Oct 2010 14:21:17
Message:

[quote]Originally posted by g_alin

Inc0gnit0,
you need to download the SMFlash from an identical device ... we don't have the firmware for that model.

If i can find identical device, can u explain me procedure? What is SMFlash?


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 14 Oct 2010 22:49:42
Message:

@ g_alin this is new location
http://www.mediafire.com/file/p5827cz80ivdmvl/SMFlash_0_23068672.img


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 14 Oct 2010 23:11:59
Message:

sonycam,

let me know if it works ...
http://www.4shared.com/file/GKf2MWRd/C620_WEU_ROM_R06399061106.html


Reply author: Ed1
Replied on: 15 Oct 2010 16:41:04
Message:

Hi,
I have a problem with Navman s70 3D (S75). The device comes to me with error after starting, after several tries I was be able to flash it with S55 ROM via SDcard. The device is semi-working now (could not recover keys etc)... Could somebody help me with S75 ROM? Originally was S75.V1.00.0001


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 15 Oct 2010 17:44:02
Message:

@ g_alin
well, I dont know if its working, I have the same screen when device starts up,since I dont have recovery disc from c620,can I recovery c620 device whit c520 disc?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Oct 2010 17:59:22
Message:

sonycam,
You can give it a try ... there is a good chance to work ... but did you performed the firmware upgrade? (using the BLUE SCREEN)?


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 15 Oct 2010 18:49:09
Message:

yes I did it, all as it explain in read me file,blue screen,upgrade firmware from your post,evrythig was good,
but after reset on the screen is allways:Miomap cannot be launched.....and recover Miomap from cd.
Wenn I try to install miomap v3.3 from c520 cd,on my PC it shows install line, but after reset device(c620) have the same screen


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Oct 2010 20:28:39
Message:

sonycam,
You should try to do an upgrade using the '(Format)' option -> this way is going to format the My Flash Disk partition.
WARNING: You will lose all you information (old software, settings, history ...)


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 15 Oct 2010 20:55:01
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

sonycam,
WARNING: You will lose all you information (old software, settings, history ...)




yes that s ok, but dont have miomap2008 softvare,how can install v3.3 on device


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Oct 2010 20:59:40
Message:

sonycam,
First you should copy on the My Flash Disk the Miomap3.3 and after that you have 2 options:
1. unlock your GPS and make a shortcut on your desktop
2. add a mortscript (with the name and in the path where your old software *.exe was ... check on the internet where it was .. I don't know) that will start automatically your new miomap.exe (at your new location \My Flash Disk\Miomap\Miomap\Miomap.exe)


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 15 Oct 2010 22:30:52
Message:

I think somethig is wrong,I try to run miopocket 4.0 and it s not working,all time have the same screen :((
dont know what to do


Reply author: juanvicente
Replied on: 17 Oct 2010 22:05:23
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

juanvicente,
DiskRW must be used on the GPS (not on the PC) - this is a wince application (not winXP application). You need to upload those firmware versions if you want me to take a look ...



Hi g_alin

Thanks for your quick response. I downloaded the program with dll DiskRW.exe AYGSHELL.DLL, Commctrl.dll and coredll.dll. Copy them to an SD card. Turn off 268 + miomap card and lit introduced by hard-reset. When you turn on the GPS this is the blank screen and not run the program and the GPS DiskRW.exe still can be activated and in standby.

Know whether for miomap 268 + diferntes there a way you can change BIOS?. Forgive me ask you both, but I've seen on the website that explains everything in detail and is quite a pity you do not have the moddelo you indicate.

Many thanks again,

Juan Vicente


Reply author: Iulian
Replied on: 17 Oct 2010 23:58:38
Message:

Hello everybody,

I have a problem with my Mio Moov 300. I unlocked it, and I "was able" to delete a lot of files from it. After that, no USB connection to PC and on the device, Windows CE is starting with a single menu... Start -> Setings.
I read, in the last two days, this topic, but, I am not a technical guy and I can't obtain the blue screen. So, if someone can assist me, i will be very indebted.
1. I downloaded the firmware for Moov 330 (I understand that is working);
2. I put the files winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks on a SD card (64 MB);
3. I have tried to do the short between Pin 9 - GND.
Nothing...

Any ideea?
Thank you very much.
Iulian.


Reply author: jvdp
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 00:43:44
Message:

I have the similar issue to Iulian,
I was given a Mio Moov 300 by a family member which had suddenly started booting to the orange splash screen and freezing there.
If left for a few minutes on battery it will turn black then back to the orange screen.
I have shorted pin 9 to ground and turned on again but it does the same.
I even tried pin 9 and 12 then pin 9 and ground still no change.
I have an SD card (1GB) with the firmware on it but cannot get to the upgrade screen.
Is there something different with the mio moov 300? (purchased in Australia)


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 08:03:40
Message:

iulian and jvdp.
try to put power button to on (with sd card inside),then make a short between pin 12 and 19 for 1,2 seconds. then put power to reset.
then make a short.. pin 9 and gnd and put power to on.


Reply author: Iulian
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 09:02:58
Message:

bonjour srelioskoz,
and thank you for the reply.

I did as follow:
0. I inserted the SD card (winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks on it)
1. Put power to ON (the device starts - now I'm in the windows CE);
2. short between 12 - 19 (nothing is happend);
3. Put power to reset;
4. short between 9-GND;
5. put power to ON (the device doesn't start - black screen);

I restart this procedure making the step 4 on different stages:
- when it appears COBIA400.V1.00.0028;
- when it appears the orange splash screen;
on both situations (on short 9-GND) the device stops and remains blocked with the current screen.... but no blue screen.

I have a different memory IC - the code is K9GAG08U0A. I don't know if this will help but....

Anyway, if you have any ideas that might help ... i am here.
Thank you again.
Iulian


Reply author: Iulian
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 10:53:02
Message:

sorry...the code is K9G4G08U0A. I have found the datasheet, and has the same pin configuration
9 - CE
12 - VCC
19 - WP


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 12:11:46
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Iulian

bonjour srelioskoz,
and thank you for the reply.

I did as follow:
0. I inserted the SD card (winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks on it)
1. Put power to ON (the device starts - now I'm in the windows CE);
2. short between 12 - 19 (nothing is happend);
3. Put power to reset;
4. short between 9-GND;
5. put power to ON (the device doesn't start - black screen);

I restart this procedure making the step 4 on different stages:
- when it appears COBIA400.V1.00.0028;
- when it appears the orange splash screen;
on both situations (on short 9-GND) the device stops and remains blocked with the current screen.... but no blue screen.

I have a different memory IC - the code is K9GAG08U0A. I don't know if this will help but....

Anyway, if you have any ideas that might help ... i am here.
Thank you again.
Iulian



@Iulin Have you tried to completely discharging the battery leave on for (24hrs) this usually brings usb back.


Reply author: srelioskoz
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 12:12:50
Message:

i have made this connection with pin 12 and 19 in a mio moov 330 and it works.
but i dont have this mio now for make a video with this connection.
have you put inside your mio the sd card?
try to make this connection first and then put power to on


Reply author: Iulian
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 12:55:18
Message:

@John
I have tried this as well. But, my mios display turns black when battery reach 0% (As I said, the only menu I have now is Windows Setings, and I can see battery status). And, after that, if I perform a reset, mio start again for 5 seconds and black again. I done that for 2-3 hours, there is always enough energy in the battery to start the device. However, if I connect it by USB to the PC when the display is black, a sound will appear on the PC (but no connection). If I unplug the usb, for 1-2 second the image with USB connection appears on my mio. And that is all...

@srelioskoz
I have read all yours related posts and I have tried all the settings...
1.
a. connection between 12-19;
b. power on ->(nothing happened ... the mio starts and enter in windows);

2.
a. Power on -> the mio starts and enter in windows
b. connection between 12-19 (nothing happened)

In both situations I have proceed with short 9-GND and nothing.

Yes i have the SD card (The SD card should contains something?)

Iulian


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 18:12:19
Message:

juanvicente,
You need to find a way to pass that screen .. and only after that you will be able to unlock your GPS and run DiskRW from explorer - manually. (is not going to start automatically ...)

Iulian,
"However, if I connect it by USB to the PC when the display is black, a sound will appear on the PC (but no connection)"
Can you check how is recognized by the PC? If you hear a sound for sure PC is seeing something ...


Reply author: Iulian
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 18:58:23
Message:

Hello again,

I'm happy for the moment. I have spended the entire day to make my mio moov 300 to be recognized by the PC...and i did it. I don't know how, but i did it. I let the device on untill the battery was depleted, and then, when the display was black, i did a short between pin 12 and GND (reset) and again pin 12 and pin 19 (i think ... :-)) and suddenly appears the picture with usb connection. Then i connected the device with cable, and my PC recognised it. I know that this doesn't sounds like a procedure, and I don't want to repeat it, but for the others "desperates" like me, might work. Now i have reinstalled the software with MioMore Desktop...

Now, I want to install iGO...keep in tuch with you guys!
Thanks a lot!


Reply author: John Dough
Replied on: 18 Oct 2010 20:30:20
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by Iulian

Hello again,

I'm happy for the moment. I have spended the entire day to make my mio moov 300 to be recognized by the PC...and i did it. I don't know how, but i did it. I let the device on untill the battery was depleted, and then, when the display was black, i did a short between pin 12 and GND (reset) and again pin 12 and pin 19 (i think ... :-)) and suddenly appears the picture with usb connection. Then i connected the device with cable, and my PC recognised it. I know that this doesn't sounds like a procedure, and I don't want to repeat it, but for the others "desperates" like me, might work. Now i have reinstalled the software with MioMore Desktop...

Now, I want to install iGO...keep in tuch with you guys!
Thanks a lot!



Glad to hear it worked for you as even a tiny voltage left in the battery can prevent usb connection.

Btw let us know if you can use TMC with Igo (any) as this is proving difficult nee impossible up to now.Some members are working on it but as yet no go.


Reply author: jvdp
Replied on: 20 Oct 2010 06:08:05
Message:

Wonderful, I am in!
Found an image I could flash onto my device on this link.
http://www.4shared.com/file/1epi0keO/300rom0013.html

Now it says no region data set.
What now? :)


Reply author: Viktoras
Replied on: 20 Oct 2010 13:16:52
Message:

I have a problem with my Mio Moov 330.
At first was problem with touch screen calibration,
but now touch screen don't work at all.
Inside Flash is Ok and PC recognized it.In the beginning I have found a virus on internal flash.
Now I have erased it also viruses wasn't present.
But after Reset > Power on > Mio starts normaly, but touch screen don't work :(
How me to solve this problem?
Help me, please.


Reply author: juanvicente
Replied on: 20 Oct 2010 20:44:14
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

juanvicente,
You need to find a way to pass that screen .. and only after that you will be able to unlock your GPS and run DiskRW from explorer - manually. (is not going to start automatically ...)

Iulian,
"However, if I connect it by USB to the PC when the display is black, a sound will appear on the PC (but no connection)"
Can you check how is recognized by the PC? If you hear a sound for sure PC is seeing something ...



Thanks g_alin:

As you say the problem is I have to go from blank screen to me GPS screen appears. I see that for other models you are indicating that you have to make a short circuit between pin x xx.

My model is a 268 + DigiWalker MioMap and I do not know if this short circuit in such pin.

As you told me about the program put DiskRW, but not turn on the GPS and stay in standby mode, I can not run the program.

If you know anything or any page where I can help, I'm very grateful.


Reply author: jvdp
Replied on: 21 Oct 2010 04:04:59
Message:

I'm getting another mio moov 300 AU identical to this one. can you link me to some instructions on how to extract the firmware and transfer it to the other device?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 21 Oct 2010 21:00:10
Message:

first page, first post,

"If you have a different firmware you need to back-up your wince. To do that, you need DiscRW utility.
If your device is unlocked and you can run applications on your PNA, try to use this DiskRW software:
http://www.4shared.com/file/134354901/9ef633/DiskRW.html
instructions:
1.Start DiskRW
2.Select from combo-box (close to 'Store:') -> SMFlash
3.Press '...' button and select 'Storage Card' (where to save your SMFlash.img); If '...' doesn't work you can write (using any keyboard you have) the name of the SDCard folder of your PNA (ex: \Storage Card\, \SDMMC\ ...)
4.Press 'Read' button. A Hourglass will appear and it will take approx. 30 sec.
If the above application doesn't work, you should contact me to (on this thread) to fins a solution. Because every device is different I can’t give you a DiskRW custom made for your model."


Reply author: jvdp
Replied on: 21 Oct 2010 23:00:15
Message:

Thanks,
I'e tested diskRW on this device I have here, (although its unlocked and flashed with a different firmware) it worked easily enough. I'll do as much as I can without altering the OS of the other one once I get it in a couple of weeks.

BTW I've been reading though all 75 Pages of this and my applause goes out to you g_alin, you really have a passion for this stuff.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 22 Oct 2010 01:45:47
Message:

thank you jvdp.


Reply author: miolover
Replied on: 23 Oct 2010 15:27:01
Message:

galin,tronik, anyone :

can you help me here? I look at registry and i find this entries:

instldircnt 00000001(1)
instl 00000001(1)

I am pretty sure that is the 30 day trial count. what should i do to eliminate that? PLEASE..... tell me.

Anyway since miopocket does not have the current date and time, i dont think 30 day count works. this is the 2nd day i used and it still say, 1 day. but i still want it removed. any tricks for that registry entry? make (1) a (0) perhaps?


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 23 Oct 2010 22:00:48
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by g_alin

sonycam,

let me know if it works ...
http://www.4shared.com/file/GKf2MWRd/C620_WEU_ROM_R06399061106.html




hello g_alin
think this is not working,I try to install MioPcket on it but its not working.If you have any other image or solution,please it is helpfull


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 25 Oct 2010 18:58:32
Message:

miolover,
Can you give me more details ... I don't understand your question.
If you want to change registry into wince 5.0 use TRE. If you want to do that periodically (or automatic ...) use MortScript (or MortScript + TRE)

sonycam,
After you upload the firmware you get an answer like "completed 100%, please restart" ?
If you get this answer the firmware upgrade is working ... only that you have problems installing other softwares. Try to use the upgrade with Format ...
If the firmware doesn't work you get answers like: "unknown image format" or it get stuck at some upgrade percentage ...


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 25 Oct 2010 19:59:22
Message:

yes i got completed 100%,and I try format flash,but allways whit USB(format) didnt try by SD/MMC(format).
problem is that I allways get the screen whit message that I need miomap rcovery.
All I want is to remove this screen and see desktop.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 25 Oct 2010 23:46:51
Message:

sonycam,
Sounds like you need a custom firmware:
1. removed this application (miomap recovery screen)
2. filmanCE to be started automatically, at power on (and you'll manually remove the registry that starts filmanCE; after installing MioPocket)
If you need help, to change the firmware, let me know.


Reply author: miolover
Replied on: 26 Oct 2010 04:38:05
Message:

g_alin:

I installed a trial version of isilo. I want help to get rid of that 30 day countdown by hacking the registry. When I check the registry I found this entry in:

HKLM/software/apps/isilo

instldircnt 00000001(1)
instl 00000001(1)

I am pretty sure that is the 30 day trial count. what should i do to eliminate that? PLEASE..... tell me.

That's exactly what I want help from I dunno how to write script or modify settings in tre.

i also googled. The usual registry line is read:

Instl"=dword:00000001

in normal installations I am thinking can i make a script that will input

Instl"=dword:00000001

registry entry of isilo as if it was installed normally? and how will i add it? a script or direct edit in registry? when i click edit in TRE i can only change the value of 1. is there a way where i can add that dword entry in TRE?


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 26 Oct 2010 16:45:44
Message:

g_alin yes I need help because dont know where is aplication that need to remove and registry files


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 26 Oct 2010 19:43:26
Message:

Hi to everyone
I got one week ago a Moov330-N179 with a fully erased nand. Obviously one clever guy either played pianno on the nand pins and managed to erase everything, including nboot & uboot, or entered in some uboot option which erases the entire nand.

My question to anybody who reads this topic: do you have such a device + jtag equippment(wiggler) + courrage and will to connect a working device on jtag? If so, I will provide a modified sjf for s3c2443 + K9LAG08 nand which is capable to dump the required physical nand blocks.

Thanks.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 26 Oct 2010 23:06:06
Message:

sonycam,

http://www.4shared.com/file/k_1208dh/modified_C620.html
this firmware has a mortscript that is running every time you restart (or reset) your device.
"
# WAIT 15 sec.
sleep ( 15000 )

if FileExists("\Storage Card\MioAutoRun.exe")
# RUN MioAutoRun.exe from SDCard
RunWait ("\Storage Card\MioAutoRun.exe")
endif

# delete registry
RegDelete ( "HKLM", "Init", "Launch99" )
# original was:
# "Launch99"="Launcher.exe"
# you can add it later ... on your unlock

Exit
"
I don't know if is working so .. it would be a good idea to test it first (I don't have the hardware to test it). After reflash turn on the device, wait 30 sec., plug the usb to pc and gps (and the GPS will restart automatically) ... while is restarting disconnect the GPS from PC.
Now you will know that the script is running. (you will see the desktop ... but no taskbar .. so is useless ...)
After that you have to make your our unlock (or use one ... on the shelf ...).
To use the unlock you have to restart (or reset) your device ...
After restart you have 15 to insert the card with unlock (after 15sec. the mortscript will start file \Storage Card\MioAutoRun.exe) ... this can be another mortscript ... or another unlock.
My unlock will delete "HKLM", "Init", "Launch99" always ... if you want to place the "Launcher.exe" use another LaunchXX ... for example "Launch98".
This program will launch other applications ... (some are important .. like USB connections) but will start also the annoying "MioMapMissing.bmp" ... in your script you can try to overwrite this file from \windows with an empty one ... maybe is not going to show you that image (it is possible also to crash the wince ... in that case you have to RESET to go back to your initial stat).
During those test I will recommend you to left the UPGRADE SCREEN always open ... in case you have to reflash ... or format your My flash disk.
Let me know if you need more details.

miolover,
"what should i do to eliminate that?" eliminate stands for Delete?
use mortscript:
RegDelete ( "HKLM", "software\apps\isilo", "instl" )
RegDelete ( "HKLM", "software\apps\isilo", "instldircnt" )

If you want to make a new entry:
RegWriteDWord( "HKLM", "software\apps\isilo", "instl",1 )
RegWriteDWord( "HKLM", "software\apps\isilo", "instldircnt",1 )
"is there a way where i can add that dword entry in TRE?"
in TRE try the menu 'New' to add entries
some information about TRE: http://www2r.biglobe.ne.jp/~tascal/download/pocketpc/tre_e.htm

sorry ablbd ... I don't have ...
BTW: do you know how we can write to NAND Flash from wince? I tried that some times a go .. and I stopped ... the main reason will be to modify the UT settings of a Magellan GPS (the UPGRADE software from Mio doesn't work ...).
Probably something like:
bool Read(ULONGLONG llOffset, DWORD dwLength, BYTE *buffer, DWORD &dwRead)
{
if (!_ok) return false;

// the buffer passed in the request must be allocated with vmbase. otherwise it will be incorrectly
// translated to be in filesys.exe's process space.
DWORD req[3];
req[0]= DWORD(llOffset);
req[1]= dwLength;
req[2]= (DWORD)globalptr(buffer);
DWORD nRet;
flashdrvdebug("flashdrv_device::Read(%I64x, %08lx, %08lx):rq=%08lx\n", llOffset, dwLength, buffer, req);
/*
BOOL iores= _dvr.DrvIOControl(_dwHandle, IOCTL_FMD_NAND_READ_WLAN_DATA, NULL, 0, (PBYTE)req, 12, &nRet);
*/
BOOL iores= DeviceIoControl(_dwHandle, IOCTL_FMD_NAND_READ_WLAN_DATA, NULL, 0, (PBYTE)req, 12, &nRet, NULL);
dwRead= dwLength;
flashdrvdebug("->%08lx, ret=%08lx\n", iores, nRet);
return true;
}
bool Write(ULONGLONG llOffset, DWORD dwLength, const BYTE *buffer, DWORD &dwWritten)
{
if (!_ok) return false;

DWORD req[3];
req[0]= DWORD(llOffset);
req[1]= dwLength;
req[2]= (DWORD)globalptr(buffer);
DWORD nRet;
/*
BOOL iores= _dvr.DrvIOControl(_dwHandle, IOCTL_FMD_NAND_WRITE_WLAN_DATA, (PBYTE)req, 12, NULL, 0, &nRet);
*/
BOOL iores= DeviceIoControl(_dwHandle, IOCTL_FMD_NAND_WRITE_WLAN_DATA, (PBYTE)req, 12, NULL, 0, &nRet, NULL);


dwWritten= dwLength;
return true;
}
Unfortunately I don't have experience with C ... if you can help me (and you have time ...) let me know and I will give you more details about that ...


Reply author: miolover
Replied on: 27 Oct 2010 00:10:02
Message:

g_alin,
"what should i do to eliminate that?" eliminate stands for Delete?
use mortscript:
RegDelete ( "HKLM", "software\apps\isilo", "instl" )
RegDelete ( "HKLM", "software\apps\isilo", "instldircnt" )

I know that registry line will delete those entry. The question is: is it safe? And I know the result will only be known until I try it.

If you want to make a new entry:
RegWriteDWord( "HKLM", "software\apps\isilo", "instl",1 )
RegWriteDWord( "HKLM", "software\apps\isilo", "instldircnt",1 )
"is there a way where i can add that dword entry in TRE?"
in TRE try the menu 'New' to add entries

I wonder if your script will result with a registry like this:

Instl=dword:00000001
instldircnt=dword:00000001


And essentially that's what I think is the hack I need. With the new command. Instead of making a script, can I just directly input the dword entry in the new command in TRE?

Also I dont think i need this:

RegWriteDWord( "HKLM", "software\apps\isilo", "instldircnt",1 )

since i think that line is for counting trials or installations?

I just want to know if those scripts u mentioned won't brick my gps. That if ever it messed up, A hard reset will fix it? Thanks.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Oct 2010 00:14:57
Message:

miolover,
If your GPS has RAM based registry ... it's OK. After reset all your registry changed with default ones (from FLASH).


Reply author: miolover
Replied on: 27 Oct 2010 02:18:59
Message:

how do i know if i have RAM based registry ? I have navigon 2100. Also miopocket installations are erased when i hard reset. So is that a RAM based registry?

Am I right with the output of your script?


Instl=dword:00000001

Oh and i think I will just directly delete that

instlcnt

line registry in tre. right? i suck at making scripts.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Oct 2010 03:03:43
Message:

miolover,
:) If the MioPocket is erased you have RAM based registry.
Yes you can delete that with TRE (for testing ... ). If you get the right results -> I will help you with the script (to integrate that into MioPocket unlock) ;) .


Reply author: chrisman
Replied on: 27 Oct 2010 03:54:21
Message:

Hi g_alin,

I have MOOV310_NA GPS. After running the upgrade exe, I am at the blue screen. Can you tell me which wince img will be perfect for this model.

I have extracted the firmware from my MOOV 310.

http://www.4shared.com/account/file/BVPmFt5X/SMFlash_0_26214400.html

Can you extract the winceimg.bin from the file?

Thanks in Advance.


Reply author: miszczu1983
Replied on: 27 Oct 2010 21:44:35
Message:

Hi,

I have bricked my NAVMAN f25S.
Spent a day to read thru this topic - you are really a specs !
The device looks alike MOOV 300 - it shows cobia 400 v1.00.0040 when starts.
I tried flashing it with:

http://www.filebox.ro/download.php?k=spwdyabkpu8x8orc

Found on net, result - wrong image size.

http://www.4shared.com/file/189985580/6b5048ed/MOOV330_EU_ROM_V1000019.html - found on this topic, result - memory size too low.

http://www.4shared.com/file/1epi0keO/300rom0013.html - found here, result - memory size too low.

Please help me - is it possible at all to flash NAVMAN f25s with MOOV 300 firmware?
NAVMAN firmwares I haven;t found.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 27 Oct 2010 22:18:09
Message:

g_alin
Usually I'm using coredll api's to read/write nand, regardless if source code is c++, vb or any other suported by VS... Native & unmanaged code can becompiled only with EVC++ 4.0 but also here I use the system's API's.

BTW, I succeeded to patch a HJTAG driver in order to read/write the Moov330 nand and I got through wiggler the incredible transfer speed of 100KB/sec: 6 blocks (256KB each) in 2min34secs !!!

@chrisman
Try with this one, from your dump: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6MPRA4XR

@miszczu1983
I flashed once a Moov300 with Moov330 rom from this topic and it worked. Make a trial.


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 27 Oct 2010 23:24:58
Message:

well dont know what is next but,I made it all like you said,and come Error:invalid condition Line:if file exist(storage card/mioautorun.exe).dont know what that means,and miomapmissing.bmp is still here
whit what app can I edit script?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 27 Oct 2010 23:55:35
Message:

ablbd,
Do you know the API used to read and write the FLASH?
Can I have also that information (internet link ... or other resource you have for that).. All I want is to change the LOCKEDUT to UNLOCKED ...
Can you show me some VB.net example to use those API (VB I can understand ... :) )

sonycam,
http://www.4shared.com/file/k_1208dh/modified_C620.html
Insert the SDCard with MioPocket after the GPS will start (faster than 15 sec.) ...


Reply author: costas
Replied on: 28 Oct 2010 08:35:19
Message:

Hi alig_g (Off : esti roman ?)
Many, many thaks for that topic.
Using this valuable information I managed to rewrite firmware on my Mio C 520 device.
Here how I done :
After I had written on the card UPGRADE_MIO_11Jun10 I start the device and insert the card .

1. unlock UPGRADE ? => Yes
2. UBootLockAPP => SuperMode
3. Do you want to permit UBoot tool ? => Yes (open succes!)



4. Hard Reset

5. Short tap on button 0/1 switch between options ; long tap on button 0/1 select option .

6. Select WinCE Upgrade
7. Select WinCE by USB

6. Conect device to PC (Cable not connected) => Found New Hardware



7. Instal on your PC driverse so you can see your vedea device (at the end of this action will get the message : USB Cable connected)



8. Run PC\DNW\DNW.exe
9. Select image and open





10. Hard Reset + remove card + disconect device from PC

11. Restart device and reinsert the card

12. unlock UPGRADE ? => Yes
13. UBootLockAPP => UserMode
14. Uboot Lock : Do you want to Forbid UBoot tool ? => Yes (lock success)



Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 28 Oct 2010 23:35:39
Message:

Hi costas, (DA)
Thank you for the pictures ... are very useful for beginners.


Reply author: costas
Replied on: 29 Oct 2010 11:19:16
Message:

NO, we thank you !!!


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 29 Oct 2010 18:15:09
Message:

allright
g_alin we are making progres :)
I menage to run miopocket but in some diferent way.
wenn I reflash new image and insert SD card nothing happens,it shows miopocket start screen
whit menu for install and somethig else.when I klik on run it show mimapmising.bmp and nothing else.
but when I conect whit PC over USB on PC shows nothing but device is starting miopocket and working fine.
well thats problem now I cant start miopocket whitout usb conection :(
if there is any log file or somethig,or any script to change....


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Oct 2010 01:53:07
Message:

sonycam,
Using TRE can you check the following registry:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init]
"Launch99"="Launcher.exe"
"Launch80"="ST.exe"
"Depend50"=hex:14,00,1e,00
"Launch50"="explorer.exe"
"Depend60"=hex:14,00
"Launch60"="services.exe"
"Depend30"=hex:14,00
"Launch30"="gwes.exe"
"Launch20"="device.exe"

"Launch99"="Launcher.exe" should not be there if you want to get rid of the miomapmising.bmp. The problem is that you are not going to have the USB connection also ... you have MainShell.exe, UsbConnect.exe: try to overwrite them with a blank file (name has to be identical- use notepad to make that file - take care at the extension). This way you can find out the EXE that shows the miomapmising.bmp. When you find out let me know and I can remove it from ROM. You can try to overwrite also miomapmising.bmp ... see whats happen ...
PS. You can always 'go back to original' with a hardware reset.


Reply author: piroska2
Replied on: 31 Oct 2010 16:15:00
Message:

You sent a rom to Chrisman (Moov310 NA /Cobia_T400_64_NA/)
This rom (firmware) is unusable with European maps (EEU, WEEU, FEU)
Have you got kind of European version too? (Moov310 /Cobia_T400_64/)

If you can upload, you're going to do lot of help me.



quote:
Originally posted by ablbd

g_alin
Usually I'm using coredll api's to read/write nand, regardless if source code is c++, vb or any other suported by VS... Native & unmanaged code can becompiled only with EVC++ 4.0 but also here I use the system's API's.

BTW, I succeeded to patch a HJTAG driver in order to read/write the Moov330 nand and I got through wiggler the incredible transfer speed of 100KB/sec: 6 blocks (256KB each) in 2min34secs !!!

@chrisman
Try with this one, from your dump: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6MPRA4XR

@miszczu1983
I flashed once a Moov300 with Moov330 rom from this topic and it worked. Make a trial.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 31 Oct 2010 21:43:08
Message:

piroska2,
I don't have other firmwares for Moov 310. You can download one SMFlash.img from another device ...


Reply author: GROMM
Replied on: 03 Nov 2010 09:50:09
Message:

@g alin
I have blue screen error on my Mio C710, even after several attempts to soft+hard reset, after which I get an erase flash, then format flash message.
I have tried to do WINCE UPGRADE with files found the web (wiceimgn.cks) but got a checksum error.
Can we get files to do with SD card :
1 UBOOT upgrade
2 WINCE upgrade

Do we need to erase memory beforehand ? Thanks


Reply author: juanvicente
Replied on: 04 Nov 2010 00:52:14
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by costas

NO, we thank you !!!



HI:

My model is a 268 + DigiWalker MioMap and I have to go from blank screen to me GPS screen appears.

As you told me about the program put DiskRW, but not turn on the GPS and stay in standby mode, I can not run the program.

If you know anything or any page where I can help, I'm very grateful.


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 04 Nov 2010 20:16:58
Message:

GROMM
can you show me the link where you downloaded the firmware?

juanvicente,
Probably only JTAG is your option. I don't have information about Cx10 recovery ...


Reply author: lily69ro
Replied on: 05 Nov 2010 22:28:28
Message:

Good evening! Where can I find FW for C720b EEU (R01 3 9977 0117) ptru as crashed and I no longer stay with the picture starts to myo started and so, thanks!


Reply author: mario100
Replied on: 06 Nov 2010 01:41:57
Message:

hi.I have mio moov 200 and wont to flasch and i need T300R2.32.V1.00.0007 becouse other do not pass.Thanks


Reply author: jvdp
Replied on: 06 Nov 2010 10:46:05
Message:

G_alin, I have extracted the flash disk from my MIO MOOV 300 AU (australian)
Can you please extract the firmware?
http://rapidshare.com/files/429180758/smflash_moov300_AU.rar


Reply author: GROMM
Replied on: 06 Nov 2010 13:34:49
Message:

@g alin
excuse my english.
good day.

the links are on the first page of this paper :

710_ENG_EUR (R33F.2.112.517) http://www.4shared.com/file/243375100/4d19a84a/C710_ENG_R33F2112517.html
backup - http://www.4shared.com/file/LUxw_lk-/C710_ENG_ROM_R33F2112517.html
C710_ENG (R30F.3.122.721) http://www.4shared.com/file/D2JenqM-/C710_R30F3122721.html

I tested first R30F
and after (this is my reference) R 33F....

the both with "checksum error"

thanks



Reply author: GROMM
Replied on: 07 Nov 2010 00:40:36
Message:

complements on my post:

my menu is :

UTool S2x0_F R30 2GB
First:
0=WINCE Upgrade
1=UBOOT Upgrade
2=BT Test
3=Other Tools

I choose 0

Second:
0=WINCE BY USB
1=WINCE by SD/MMC
2=WINCE by USB (Quickly)
3=Exit
I choose 1

and if y choose 3 on the firsr menu

0=Memory Test
1=ROM CheckSum
2=Format FLASH for BINFS
3=GPS Test
4=Gps Updating
5=Download FAT Raw
6=Upload FAT Raw
7=NAND_Tools
8=Exit

My questions are :

1 - It is necessary to before Uboot up grade ?

Can we get good files for MIO C710 or Mio C510 ?

2 - WINCE Upgrade get : Open CEImage .....Read Progress........size error or CheckSum error

Can we get good files ?

I have also tested Uboot with files extracted on this paper and the respons is "Image size too large"

I have also teted a file ENG EU NL R34F 311 2928 you had get to redyak 27/08/2010 on this paper with same result : "checkSum error".

Thanks


Reply author: gaby007
Replied on: 07 Nov 2010 05:29:19
Message:

if anywone could help me i'm new in this things, i've upgraded firmware and formatted my flash disk on my moov 200 (cobia 300 32) and now i need the files from the root of flash disk (paths.xml , ...)and the program files folder (Navman\SmartST_CE). I do not need the maps or enything else. thank you very much


Reply author: EnemyNr1
Replied on: 08 Nov 2010 10:49:31
Message:

Hello,
Thank you for your work.
I have not found anything at all Forums.
I hope you have Rom image for Navman S90i?

Thank you


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 08 Nov 2010 20:54:47
Message:

lily69ro,
Check the first page (was updated with C720b firmware).

jvdp,
On the first page ... this is a R2 (I hope was extracted correctly ... if you have problems with it let me know).

GROMM,
"1 - It is necessary to before Uboot up grade ? "
don't play with UBOOT ... you'll brick your device ...
If you have CRC error with so many firmwares I would say that you use a defective SDCard (or you GPS is not reading right the SDCard) ... Or you have an internet connection with many errors ...
"Can we get good files for MIO C710 or Mio C510 ?"
(My opinion is: ) All of those files are OK; You are the first user reporting CRC error to several firmwares. I don't think there is problem with the firmware (some of theme where downloaded more than 100 times...)
"I have also teted a file ENG EU NL R34F 311 2928 you had get to redyak 27/08/2010 on this paper with same result : "checkSum error"."
He used those file ... don;t you think is strange that only you have that problem? ... change the SDCard ....

EnemyNr1,
All I can do is: trying to extract the firmware, if you download the SMFlash.img from an identical device (that is working properly).


Reply author: jvdp
Replied on: 08 Nov 2010 21:50:52
Message:

Thanks g_alin,

I have successfully flashed the image, however I get the no region data set error, how can this be fixed?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Nov 2010 00:14:34
Message:

jvdp,
"I have successfully flashed the image, however I get the no region data set error"
You have to update also region.bin ....


Reply author: jvdp
Replied on: 09 Nov 2010 09:41:22
Message:

How would I extract region.bin from my other device?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 09 Nov 2010 18:10:32
Message:

jvdp,
You already extract it :) (in the SMFlash) ... the question is if I extracted right the region.bin from SMFlash!?
http://www.4shared.com/file/O3gnC3_W/region.html
Let me know if it works ...


Reply author: Daniele Grossi
Replied on: 09 Nov 2010 23:50:04
Message:

hey guys, can i delete miomaps and install permanently tom tom on m330?


Reply author: jvdp
Replied on: 10 Nov 2010 06:16:17
Message:

You are a champion, started up fine no error!


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 10 Nov 2010 18:26:10
Message:

jvdp,
Thank you for your feedback ... I update the link on the first page too ...


Reply author: zdarova
Replied on: 12 Nov 2010 03:46:21
Message:

Hi, I lost my self in firmwares, boot and hard reset.
My aim is to make work my Italian c250 plus with some updated maps.
I just recovered my Mio with the DVD so I would like to ask you guys that is best to do :D


1. someboby who has the 2008 maps, does it have the track option (long vehicle) compare as on 2006 does?
2. what are the newest maps for Mio c250? on the Mio webside I didn't found that info
3. Alin_g, please can you explain (or link me some guide) of the benefit of updating the rom?
4. I saw that somebody is using Garmin on Mio with Mio Pocket, ho is it works, what version of Garmin XT is better (supposing I will buy it)
5. What versione of Mio Pocket is better for c250 plus? I tried the last, trying all day long but after it restart, the main screen is freezed :| (made all the adviced from the guide and nothing)




thank you !!! :)

PS: I see alin is one of the "guru" for the Mio :D


Reply author: GROMM
Replied on: 15 Nov 2010 15:10:01
Message:

@ g alin

GROMM,
"1 - It is necessary to before Uboot up grade ? "
don't play with UBOOT ... you'll brick your device ...
If you have CRC error with so many firmwares I would say that you use a defective SDCard (or you GPS is not reading right the SDCard) ... Or you have an internet connection with many errors ...
"Can we get good files for MIO C710 or Mio C510 ?"
(My opinion is: ) All of those files are OK; You are the first user reporting CRC error to several firmwares. I don't think there is problem with the firmware (some of theme where downloaded more than 100 times...)
"I have also teted a file ENG EU NL R34F 311 2928 you had get to redyak 27/08/2010 on this paper with same result : "checkSum error"."
He used those file ... don;t you think is strange that only you have that problem? ... change the SDCard ....

Thanks for your response.

My SD card was in default
I formatted SD card and the first test was correct with ROM file.
and I installed IGO8 and Mio is OK.
THANKS
GROOM


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 15 Nov 2010 18:14:39
Message:

zdarova,
"3. Alin_g, please can you explain (or link me some guide) of the benefit of updating the rom? "
The only version we have are:
C250_Plus_EU (R11.3.0160.1107) http://www.4shared.com/file/134361154/73ee2da3/C250_EU_ROM_R11301601107.html
C250_Plus_EU (R17.4.0160.0917) http://www.4shared.com/file/143885453/7eb69489/C250_EU_ROM_R17401600917.html (better option than R11.3)
"better option" = Have more wince components (more unlocks will work - if you have more components).
If you want to have 'only a GPS' -> both are working very well with navigation software.

GROOM,
welcome.


Reply author: zdarova
Replied on: 15 Nov 2010 20:47:18
Message:

@ G_alin, multumesc (thanks)

where in US?


Reply author: EnemyNr1
Replied on: 15 Nov 2010 22:28:46
Message:

G_alin hallo,

I have Flash my Mio Moov 370 with a second (more complicated option) that will help you to recover is JTAG recovery.
i have a problem with GWES error.
I using SJF2443_Mio.exe with boot_patch.bin, but i can not see orage screen and uboot screen. I see nothing!

If i see NoICEARM, i see just ????????????? ADR 000, ?????????? ADR 0004 ,.....

i think, i need (With srelioskoz help we have a recovery method also for MOOV series.)!!!!!!!

I need your help.!


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 15 Nov 2010 23:44:43
Message:

EnemyNr1, I don't know what was wrong with your moov but now I'm pretty sure that you killed the bootloaders. That particular boot_patch is for certain C series devices and definitively not for moovs...
For the time being the only solution is to dump via jtag from a working one the first 6 blocks (ca 1,5MB) and flash that dump in yours; question is who will do this?


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 17 Nov 2010 18:11:17
Message:

hello g_alin
it is me again whit my c620
dont know how but I can only start miopocket when I put USB cable in and klick run mio pocket.
maybe when You remove luncher.exe from image will work fine.
when I delete luncher.exe and make softreset it works evrything


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 18 Nov 2010 21:41:14
Message:

sonycam,
When you insert the SDCard the GPS initiate a restart procedure ... that's perfectly normal ....
Launcher.exe does many hardware initialization ... strange behavior can be explained by that.


Reply author: sonycam
Replied on: 19 Nov 2010 20:26:38
Message:

well in that way I wont change a thing,but problem is when I am somewhere on trip and run off battery power and dont have USB conection.....but wont let that happen :))

thanks g_alin


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 29 Nov 2010 22:53:39
Message:

A Moov330/N179 is still laying on my desk as I couldn't find nboot/uboot for it. After some digging and testing I found a program (s3c2443_nr.exe, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S5B4KQLP ) which is able to copy physical nand blocks. Should be executed from SD card and because bootloaders are not longer than 1,5MB, it can be stopped at 1/5 of the total size by simply reseting the device. If everything is OK, before pressing the "save" button you'll see the full nand ID of K9LAG08(EC D5 55 25 68). On SD you'll find 2 .hex files: pages.hex and spare.hex; it would be great to have both but actually I need pages.hex.


Reply author: notmee
Replied on: 30 Nov 2010 14:06:20
Message:

hello to all

so I also bricked my Mio Moov M300 "Adriatic" (Balcan) by pointing paths.xml to iGO primo, and than the deveice woudn't show up as a flash drive on usb.

i already managed to ubrick it thanks to Osprey and his MioPocket project. I read in his instructions for installing MioPocket that in my case (edit of paths.xml file or AppStartupSec.exe file) the device sometimes shows up as as flash drive if you repeatedly turn it on and off while connected on the computer.

But since I already have the device open and connected to DNW (that took quite an effort), I could donate results of my efforts so far.

http://www.4shared.com/file/6MFCeqJ6/Mio_m300_pictures__flash.html

In the file you'll find some pictures of my device and a part of flash as per abdld's instructions on page 54 (0x30000000 to 0x38000000). I also plan to make a complete clone of the memory.

Bootup version of my device is R00.00.1029.64M and bluescreen version is TATA300_R02_1117 RAM64 MLC 2G. The sticker on the samsung chip has the following text: TATA 300A/E WWE R01 2G C567 and the chip itself has: SAMSUNG 943 K9GAG08U0M PCB0 YCJ118XS. (all of this can be seen on the pictures, i'm posting it here just so google can find it easier )

Also things I found out while searching for a solution:

  • Apparently there are two versions of Mio M300 (http://service.mio.com/M0100/MainFrame.aspx)
    I haven't managed to find out what the differences are and which version I have.
  • I had to edit the secusb2.inf file for windows to accepet it. When my device connected from the blue screen win found WINCE usb sync and absolutely refused to take the Secusb2 driver. So I checked in device manager under DEVICE PROPERTIES - DETAILS tab and found my device GUID. I edited the inf file and replaced all instances of "USB\VID_04E8&PID_1234" with my own device GUID. Than Win accepted the driver and DNW worked OK.
  • I belive that the flash part that I got from the device isn't full smflash image but just a part of uboot (iboot, nboot?) Maybe the he addresses are different because it isn't a regular Cobia device?


That's all I can remember now. I plan to install MioPocket on the device in the near future so I'll be able to get a real smflash image but for now I'm just happy that I got it to the original condition. Also I'll probably be busy for the next few day because I've been neglecting my studying.

Any questions or suggestions about memory range (abdld ) are welcome.

notmee

-------------------------------------------
EDIT:
This is the link to the memory range 0x00000000 / 0x40000000
http://www.4shared.com/file/tYYMoNfT/0x00-0x40.html


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 30 Nov 2010 18:49:00
Message:

@notmee
Thanks alot, it was quite interesting looking into a RAM dump. As you can easyly notice, memory 0x0 - 0x40000 is endlessly repeating, probably due to multiple memory mapping. Uboot is at 0x30000000 as it should be. Another interesting fact is that the Moov300 I dumped (on jtag) has a totaly different nboot/uboot than yours (it's Cobia_400_64). Another issue is that not all data from nand is copied into RAM, so if you like to play with your device, follow instructions from my previous post and run s3c2443_nr; this will make an exact nand copy, identical with the ones dumped on jtag.


Reply author: GelullaBarr
Replied on: 30 Nov 2010 20:16:20
Message:

any ROM for Mio S600?


Reply author: notmee
Replied on: 30 Nov 2010 21:42:14
Message:

@ablbd
yeah i already suspected that the M-series (or at least M300 adriatic) are different from the regular Cobia devices.
Didn't know that i got a RAM dump not a ROM or a flash dump (must have missted that info). So i guess it doesn't make any sense to make a dump of complete range 0x00000000 to 0xffffffff?

i also think it funny that the boot version (R00), description on the chip (R01) and bluescreen version (R02) are different. Or is that also the case with other devices?

Anyway as i said i don't have time to poke around right now but i'do plan to install Miopocket mini and than i'll be able to do both smflash image and nand copy.


notmee


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 30 Nov 2010 21:46:45
Message:

GelullaBarr,
You need to download the SMFlash.img (using DiskRW) from another (identical) device. We don't have this firmware. Do you have access to UPGRADE SCREEN (BLUE SCREEN)?


Reply author: GelullaBarr
Replied on: 01 Dec 2010 07:55:02
Message:

I don't know how to access the upgrade screen, I don't have another device, but there is no other way to solve this problem? sometimes the PC recognize this device as Mio digiwaler. There is no way to unlock from sdcard? Thank you for youre posts. And there is no other ROM, similar with this one? I could send you a picture of internal storage but I don't know how


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 01 Dec 2010 20:02:06
Message:

GelullaBarr,
If you have the original CD/DVD with maps and software ... you can try to delete all the files from My Flash Disk. When is recognized as Mio digiwalker do you have access to the internal memory? can you tell how is recognized by PC? (you can check that on PC: Control Panel / system / Devices Manager ...).


Reply author: GelullaBarr
Replied on: 01 Dec 2010 22:20:38
Message:

no, internal storage is not recognized by PC, it's just trying to install mio digiwalker and after 1 minute appear a message " mass storage device failed"...but i can not acces my flash disk, would be simple, i'm not a beginner in this, but i can't find rom for this device and I don't knoe how to acces upgrade screen(sunteti roman? mi-ar fi mai simplu de conversat in romana)


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 01 Dec 2010 22:51:14
Message:

GelullaBarr,
Unfortunately is not much you can do (without another device to download the firmware). Try to find one locally ... or wait for someone to upload one SMFlash. I don't have one available.
(Daca vrei poti sa intrebi in Ro si o sa-ti raspund ...)


Reply author: notmee
Replied on: 02 Dec 2010 00:22:05
Message:

installed Miopocket 4 (had Miopocket Mini but it didt'n behave nicely) so i got the smflash file...

http://www.4shared.com/file/3jxyeXGk/SMFlash_0_35651584.html

cheers, notmee


Reply author: GelullaBarr
Replied on: 02 Dec 2010 10:46:51
Message:

am desfacut dispozitivul, am facut si poze, pe el scrie in fata SEEKERII_V625_600 iar pe spate, pe memorie, scrie SEEKER 2600, stiu ca puteam sa deblochez aplicatia de pe card daca puneam un fisier "auto" intr-un folder cu denumirea corecta, "Default" sau "SEEKER...", am incercat mai multe variante dar nu mi-a reusit si nu am gasit pe nimeni caruia sa-i fireusit varianta aceea cu pin 9 si gnd...sa fie asta altfel construit?


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 02 Dec 2010 18:19:00
Message:

GelullaBarr,
(remove the sticker) and tell us the IC names (maybe the flash memory used is different). But (again) even if you enter into BLUE SCREEN you don't have the firmware ... (or the SMFlash ...). Seeker (most of them SMDK2450) is different from moov (SMDK2443); the question is: if the flash memory is the same?


Reply author: GelullaBarr
Replied on: 02 Dec 2010 20:13:20
Message:

k, i'll speak in english, what is the "IC names", where should look for that? "SEEKER 2600 WWE R07 2G 83AC" THis is the memory I think


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 02 Dec 2010 21:34:22
Message:

GelullaBarr,
under the sticker (remove the sticker) ... you have to read it under some angle ...


Reply author: GelullaBarr
Replied on: 03 Dec 2010 08:26:09
Message:

k, I understand, I removed the sticker and this is what I found : "SAMSUNG 007 K9GAG08U0M PCB0 YCA6628AC".(Sorry for my bad english). For me are 2 ways to recover this device, 1. it's to connect with PC, I think I can do that if I have a proper driver, when it's said usb mass storage failed to install, I can choose to install what driver I want with option "Have Disk", but I need right .inf file 2. it;s to enter boot menu and to flash a similar image rom, for 5" devices (I found that it's worked on other devices, to put other image ROM on a device). I hope you'll help me.

P.S. I tried many times 9 pin method but I've got only a black screen,(desi cele doua leduri portocalii s-au aprins...scuze dar nu mai stiam exact cum sa ma exprim).


Am mai facut cercetari si am gasit un .pdf de la samsung despre acest modul si intr-adevar ar trebui sa mearga cu pin 9, am gasit semnificatia fiecarui pin...sper sa reusesc...nu-mi pot da seama la ce gresesc.


I think I figured out wich the processor is..."Samsung S5P6443XH-40 1018 ARM N2A6BMQA"


Reply author: GelullaBarr
Replied on: 03 Dec 2010 10:50:26
Message:

Moments of glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!...I found it...on the sdcard you must rename anything you put..."iBoot.exe" and it's working...I hope this will help other guys


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 03 Dec 2010 22:36:27
Message:

GelullaBarr,
So you have to start the software the unlock the UPGRADE SCREEN (http://www.4shared.com/file/cvkc5b2z/UPGRADE_MIO_11Jun10.html) ... let me know if you see the BLUE SCREEN ... don't play with that menu (can brick your device ...)


Reply author: GelullaBarr
Replied on: 03 Dec 2010 22:59:16
Message:

g_alin...i renamed total comander with iboot and it's opened. I put the file missing processmgr.ini and it's all fine now, I repeat, if you rename igo8.exe as iboot, it will run in aplication, if you rename miopocket in iboot it will unlock it...I hope you will understand my bad english


Reply author: g_alin
Replied on: 04 Dec 2010 00:05:14
Message:

GelullaBarr,
I did :) now you can start DiscRW and download the SMFlash (in case you need it later ... :) ).


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 04 Dec 2010 08:44:11
Message:

Let me explain the iboot issue.

Mio developpers had included an emergency "back-door" in every Moov bootloader (I don't know if C devices have it!!) which, if present on SD, will be executed first. The original iboot.exe is a very powerfull tool which has a similar effect as the "blue screen" and is able to replace not only the OS but nboot and uboot too, so be very carefull what files you put on SD together with iboot.exe!! It has no menu at all and will rewrite without any questioning winceimg, nboot and/or uboot if present. Obviously, in order to work, uboot must be functional.
Consequently, in all cases when the device stops responding and hangs in the boot screen, OS can be replaced by adding aside winceimg's the original iboot.exe or, as GellulaBarr explained, the file name "iboot.exe" can be used to run TC and correct something (an xml or ini which made the system to hang).


Reply author: GelullaBarr
Replied on: 04 Dec 2010 10:10:02
Message:

DiscRW it's not working on wince6, maybe another program.
Hardware Type is SEEKER2_600_EEU for those who bought from east european...I think it's important to know. This is another way to unlock this device, puting mioautorun in this folder and rename it auto.exe, for example

ablbd, iboot was just a way to regain control over mio S600. it was the only way open software. I used CECMD.exe(renamed iBoot.exe), but it's working very well mio pocket 4 R62


Reply author: ventzel
Replied on: 04 Dec 2010 18:37:30
Message:

quote:
Originally posted by ablbd

A Moov330/N179 is still laying on my desk as I couldn't find nboot/uboot for it. After some digging and testing I found a program (s3c2443_nr.exe, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S5B4KQLP ) which is able to copy physical nand blocks. Should be executed from SD card and because bootloaders are not longer than 1,5MB, it can be stopped at 1/5 of the total size by simply reseting the device. If everything is OK, before pressing the "save" button you'll see the full nand ID of K9LAG08(EC D5 55 25 68). On SD you'll find 2 .hex files: pages.hex and spare.hex; it would be great to have both but actually I need pages.hex.





I have same problem with a Moov 500R2(S3C2450+K9GAG08). I fing another device with diferent nand(S3C2450+K9G4G08) and make 2 backups, first with H-jtag and second with S3C2443_NR.exe. Both are the same. I try to upload it into bricked device but it won't start.
I think bootloader have some parameters how to handle flash geometry in first block?
http://www.4shared.com/file/LIIuGCTb/T510r2_v1_00_0004.html

Can you tell me more about patching H-jtag driver to gain more speed?


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 04 Dec 2010 19:31:56
Message:

Well, can't tell you but can point out some issues:
a)The two nands are different in an essential way: K9G4G08 has 2K page size, K9GAG08 has 4K...
b) Have you loaded the image in one or you have separated nboot from uboot and loaded them separately?
c)How (using what tool??) did you loded the image into bricked device? Is this tool able to handle 4K page size, 128 pages/block?
d) have you choosen SLC mode for loading the image (h-jtag and s3c2443_nr are copying the pages as SLC) or you programmed it/them in two-plain mode?

Patching h-jtag driver was not made for speed but to adapt it for a certain nand(page size, pages/block). Anyway, "patching" is history now, I am recompiling the modified driver.


Reply author: ventzel
Replied on: 04 Dec 2010 20:10:19
Message:

I used H-jtag with modified nand descriptor and modified driver for reading/writing and i have write ~10% of image in flash. I found a post on a blog http://blog.csdn.net/Linux_lee/archive/2010/02/06/5293229.aspx how to addapt h-jtag for diferent flash devices.
Here is what i have used http://www.4shared.com/file/vnvvVKDf/mod.html(source and descriptors)



Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 04 Dec 2010 21:10:39
Message:

I looked into source code for k9gag08 because I knew that the so-called "prototype" drivers had some errors (and those who have modified them were careless enough to disregard them), such as:
-according Samsung specifications, bad block marking is placed in the LAST page's spare area; this means that if really exists a factory bad block, the driver will not "see" the mark because it doesn't look in the right place and will consider such a block as good.

-the driver has some hard-coded parameters in nand_mark_badblock and nand_is_badblock routines (2048!!):
*SysAddr32(NFADDR) = (2048>>0) & 0xFF;
*SysAddr32(NFADDR) = (2048>>8) & 0xFF;
instead of
*SysAddr32(NFADDR) = (NAND_PAGE_SIZE>>0) & 0xFF;
*SysAddr32(NFADDR) = (NAND_PAGE_SIZE>>8) & 0xFF;

Just think at consequences: k9gag08 has 4096 bytes page size, so spare area starts at 4096 and not at 2048 !!!

Those guys made a very beneffic modification in the driver by setting the valid read-write area to cover full nand, which I used since long time ago. The problem here is that this trick works only if the nand was locked by software bit...


Reply author: ventzel
Replied on: 04 Dec 2010 21:29:06
Message:

Thanks ablbd! I didn't notice that. I think i'll replace k9gag08 with K9K8G08 witch 2k/page and i'll try to flash it.


Reply author: ablbd
Replied on: 05 Dec 2010 08:35:01
Message:

@ventzel: don't do that, won't work!
I'll make the modification into source code and I will recompile the driver. Another (and much safer) solution would be a modified SJF, if you have a little patience I will include into sjf2450 the k9gag08 handling module.

Edit: here is the recompiled driver + source codes
http://www.4shared.com/file/ZzNqq-RD/DRIVER-1808_S3C2450K9GAG08.html

BTW, I'm not absolutely sure that the nand init bits are OK but try to write the nand, may work. First trial should be to erase some blocks (or entire nand) followed by check blank for the same selection. If selected area is blank indeed than you can write anything on it...


Reply author: ventzel
Replied on: 05 Dec 2010 19:16:23
Message:

@ablbd
I know how device is booting and it won't work only if i have same flash or something similar that have same page size and number of pages/block li