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 [TOPIC] ALK CoPilot GPS v8 USA for Windows Mobile
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rem

USA
197 Posts

Posted - 02 avr. 2010 :  07:17:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a few TTS voices that can be downloaded, they have the astrisk. I used a female Brittish voice. I do like the Live services, they don't cost much and it's interesting to see the accidents pop up along the way. I'm glad it doesn't re-route because most often the reported "accident/warning" usually doesn't turn out to be much of an event. I use a company car so I don't shop gas prices so I'm no help there.
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jeffcarp94

USA
117 Posts

Posted - 02 avr. 2010 :  13:56:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Larryc: Judging whether something is worth it is a personal decision, but there are some serious issues with the traffic service. The data is great. It comes from Inrix and I find it to be very accurate. ALK's implementation of that data, in my opinion, borders on worthless. While in a route, a traffic alert will be announced. Along the right side of the screen, a nice distance scale will open and individual icons representing traffic incidents will be shown along the distance scale based on how far the incident is away from you. So far so good.

Where it falls down is that as a driver, you have no idea what you are dealing with, unless you believe it is safe to push those little icons and then read the text associated with them while driving. That is the only way to determine the issue. Worse yet, the text from Inrix give you the traffic flow speed associated with the incident (i.e., congestion: 12 mph) but ALK doesn't do anything with that data. They do NOT adjust your ETA. Your ETA stays the same as it was before the incident ever occurred.

You can select individual incidents and manually detour, but you have no data to know whether that is the right thing to do or not. First, you don't know the delay amount you are dealing with. Second, you have no idea what the traffic conditions are on the route you would detour on to. When you select a detour, ALK shows you the distance change and time change (i.e., +3 miles / + 7 minutes) but that does NOT take traffic conditions into account. So your 3 mile detour could have a 20 minute freeway delay on it that their software IS reporting, but it doesn't tell you that until after you've accepted the detour and gone that way. Then - surprise! Another traffic incident shows up.

ALK also doesn't use the traffic data to calculate the route or to determine en route if a better route is available. Basically, traffic in this product is a reporting system. When you are already in the traffic physically, you already know about it. You don't need a reporting system, you need the system to tell you what to DO about it.

ALK has received a barrage of complaints about this on their Facebook website. To date, they've not said a word about it in response except a few private emails saying "please stop talking about traffic" and telling us how "hard" software development is and how things take time. Blah, blah, blah. This week, they appear to have filtered many of the complaint posts off their Facebook page and blocked new user posts.

The gas price feature works fine. Though it is missing some stations like a Flying J Truck stop and a few convenience stores that have been around for at least 15 years. And in California, while I've been there on business, I never go it to report any prices for any stations.

Nav experience: Garmin SP III, SP 2710, SP 2730, Garmin i5, Garmin c330, Garmin 760, Garmin 885T, Dash Navigation, TeleNav for Sprint, TomTom 740 Live, CoPilot Live v8, Navigon for Android, Navigon for iPad, Google Navigation, Waze, Garmin Nuvi 3490LMT, Garmin 3590LMT, TomTom for Android, Rand McNally 7725LM
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larryc

USA
224 Posts

Posted - 20 juil. 2010 :  22:11:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone play with the "speak turn warning" setting?
It appears to give options for 2 mi, 1 mi, 3/10 mi, and 'at turn'; however, the specific way it works is undocumented. I opened a ticket about this with ALK (since their online manual did not match what I saw in the program) and I was told the documentation is obsolete.

Specifically, I want to know if any of the alerts are dependent on your speed. For example, while on the highway I'd like to be alerted at 2 mi and 1 mi, but this doesn't make sense when driving on a local road at 25 mph. Sure, I could run a bunch of tests by changing the settings and then going out driving, but that is not so easy to do real-time if you are the driver and the tester! :) Hoping to learn if anyone else knows about this setting.

Mio Moov 500 / Google Nav Android / Copilot 8 Android
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jeffcarp94

USA
117 Posts

Posted - 21 juil. 2010 :  05:25:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just completed a 4071 mile road trip over the last 20 days which took me through 15 states. I used ALK's CoPilot Live the entire time. I've posted a rather lengthy summary of my experience on my blog here: http://tinyurl.com/2arsn9f

Nav experience: Garmin SP III, SP 2710, SP 2730, Garmin i5, Garmin c330, Garmin 760, Garmin 885T, Dash Navigation, TeleNav for Sprint, TomTom 740 Live, CoPilot Live v8, Navigon for Android, Navigon for iPad, Google Navigation, Waze, Garmin Nuvi 3490LMT, Garmin 3590LMT, TomTom for Android, Rand McNally 7725LM
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gpspassion

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Posted - 21 juil. 2010 :  09:56:38  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by larryc

Anyone play with the "speak turn warning" setting?
It appears to give options for 2 mi, 1 mi, 3/10 mi, and 'at turn'; however, the specific way it works is undocumented. I opened a ticket about this with ALK (since their online manual did not match what I saw in the program) and I was told the documentation is obsolete.

Specifically, I want to know if any of the alerts are dependent on your speed. For example, while on the highway I'd like to be alerted at 2 mi and 1 mi, but this doesn't make sense when driving on a local road at 25 mph. Sure, I could run a bunch of tests by changing the settings and then going out driving, but that is not so easy to do real-time if you are the driver and the tester! :) Hoping to learn if anyone else knows about this setting.
Don't think this can be made speed dependent but will check on my iPad version, keep us posted on their reply.

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larryc

USA
224 Posts

Posted - 21 juil. 2010 :  20:20:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ALK finally responded that the settings are what they are; in other words the settings are not speed dependent.

Honestly, their answer doesn't make sense, at least compared to all the other gps software I've ever used.

As I wrote earlier, I haven't had a chance to test this on my own (it's somewhat hard to test when you think about it - you have to change one setting, then drive a route, then stop, make a change, and drive the route again, etc).

Additionally, I am having problem related to this setting that I can't seem to solve right now. When I go into this specific "speak turn warning" screen, all the options are unchecked. If I check some or all of them and then save, when I go back to the setting screen, the options are all unchecked. In other words, there's no way for me to make the settings stick.
I opened a ticked about this as well; they first suggested deleting my user.cfg file; that didn't work. They now are telling me to uninstall & reinstall the software. Haven't gotten to that yet but will post my results.

[edit] Just went through an uninstall / reinstall and it didn't fix the problem.
FWIW, that process was a real PITA with many time consuming steps. Uninstall the app and the maps... Download and & reinstall the app... Re-enter the license key... Download the maps to the device... Now enter the upgrade license key to enable TTS... Now download the quarterly update....
The entire uninstall / reinstall process probably took 30-45 minutes. I wish Copilot central 2.0 could store your license keys, so if you have to reinstall, you can simply push them to the device.

Mio Moov 500 / Google Nav Android / Copilot 8 Android

Edited by - larryc on 21 juil. 2010 21:22:22
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