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 [TOPIC] Google Maps Navigation - Reviews - v6.11.1
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larryc

USA
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Posted - 16 déc. 2010 :  20:27:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just got the update on my Android 2.1 device.
I noticed something I REALLY don't like!
As you start zooming in, ALL roads (highways, secondary roads, local streets, etc) all become white. This means at these zoom levels, it's very difficult to distinguish between different road types.

Hope this is just a bug (that will be fixed soon) and not a new "works as designed".

Oh, and I can't get the tilt feature to work.

Mio Moov 500 / Google Nav Android / Copilot 8 Android

Edited by - larryc on 16 déc. 2010 21:16:54
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toronado455

70 Posts

Posted - 16 déc. 2010 :  22:23:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you guys talking about the Google Maps 5.0 update or something else? I don't have an Android device, and I'm always confused about the difference between the "Nav" app and the "Maps" app.

In this video, it shows what appears to be someone holding the device parallel to the earth and pointing it in different directions and it keeps the "north up" stationary (maps stays put while device is moved). Just wondering, if this were mounted vertically in a vehicle, would that feature still work?

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Edited by - toronado455 on 16 déc. 2010 22:24:21
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gman

USA
320 Posts

Posted - 16 déc. 2010 :  23:23:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Downloaded it on my Droid. I've got the 3D feature working for tilt, pan, and compass mode. But...I can't get that new Rotate gesture to work. Anybody else have that working?

Pretty awesome update. The compass mode while in 3D view is nice.

@ toronado455: We're talking about Maps 5.0 for Android. Maps is just that...maps; like going to maps.google.com on your desktop. Google Nav is a separate app for full blown voice-guided GPS navigation, but it is linked to Maps (as well as other apps) so that it can be launched seamlessly from within Maps (or from within other apps). The new features in Maps 5.0 do not carry over to Google Nav (no 3D buildings, pan/tilt, etc).

As far as that video goes, I think you're referring to 'Compass Mode', which rotates the map according to the physical direction you're facing in the real world. It's 'Track Up' actually, not North up. On my Droid, if I have the phone truly vertical, it doesn't work too well - start's spinning around. But if I tilt it forward 20 degs or so, it works.

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larryc

USA
224 Posts

Posted - 16 déc. 2010 :  23:33:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@gman, if you zoom way in, do you see the same problem I do with roads & freeways all showing as white?

Here's an example:
1. Screencap of the intersection of I78 & the Garden State Parkway
2. This is what it looks like when I zoom in one click:


Mio Moov 500 / Google Nav Android / Copilot 8 Android

Edited by - larryc on 17 déc. 2010 01:36:45
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dcnuvi

Canada
155 Posts

Posted - 17 déc. 2010 :  03:24:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My galaxy s phone and galaxy tab both display the updated maps properly and not having your issue.

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gman

USA
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Posted - 17 déc. 2010 :  21:08:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@ larryc: I do not have that problem. Everything displays properly on my Droid running Froyo (2.2.1). What phone do you have?

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larryc

USA
224 Posts

Posted - 17 déc. 2010 :  22:16:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a samsung intercept. I'm starting to find a few reports of other Intercept users having the same problem.

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larryc

USA
224 Posts

Posted - 18 déc. 2010 :  16:08:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by larryc

I'm refering to Google Navigation, not Google Maps. I concur Google Maps indeed uses raster tiles, but I am pretty sure that Navigation uses vectors. When using Navigation on my phone, I can zoom in & out dynamically, pan, and change perspective, and it's all smooth. Pretty sure this is done with vectors. ( might be wrong, but the perspective change is the one that makes me think it's vector based.



FWIW, I was right: even before the Google Maps 5 rollout, Google Navigation used vector maps. In this article, someone from google says: "Google Maps isn’t the first mobile app to use vector graphics—in fact, Google Earth and our Navigation (Beta) feature do already."

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gpspassion

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Posted - 18 déc. 2010 :  21:30:16  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it's been a mixture of both vector and raster all along, you obviously need vectors to calculate routes, but they are doing the "painting" of the terrain features using raster. I clearly saw small "squares" being downloaded on the v5 too after turning on my connection again.

Anyway v5 is running OK on my Witstech A81/MIDnite 7" tablet but I'm not seeing any new features like 3D, maybe because it's not multi-touch? Haven't seen any setting for the cache too, will try driving around and turn off WiFi to see what happens.

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paulkbiba

USA
5064 Posts

Posted - 18 déc. 2010 :  22:28:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
V5 works perfectly on my Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. The Cache settings are "Prefetch on mobile", to prefetch map tiles even if not on wifi, and leas map tile cache. Currrently it is showing that I have 8.1mb of tiles cached.

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gpspassion

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Posted - 19 déc. 2010 :  02:10:26  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Where is that setting visible ?

Went out for a drive and it is caching pretty well...up to a point of course, it will re-route if it's not too far off-route, say a couple of streets, something I tried on the way back, but on the way out, I took the better route (as suggested by Garmin and TomTom GPS systems) from Palo Alto to San Jose (101->85->280) instead of (101->San Thomas) and it went to 2D , zoomed out and told me to follow the route...at which point I turned on WiFi again (using it with a tethered iPad).

Not sure if there is 3D in San Jose, there should be, but I'm not seeing it with my tablet, it's got a resistive screen with no multi-touch so that could be the reason.

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paulkbiba

USA
5064 Posts

Posted - 19 déc. 2010 :  02:32:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In Maps is under settings/more/cache settings. It is not available in the navigation app

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gpspassion

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Posted - 19 déc. 2010 :  02:42:55  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, not seeing that on my MID, I do have "clear cache" button in the main menu of Maps and if I go to More/About I can see the data sent and received but not the cache info, oh well caching is working so that's the main thing ;-)

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dcnuvi

Canada
155 Posts

Posted - 19 déc. 2010 :  20:24:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As this tread is GMN-Reviews here is my 2 cents worth:
Gmaps and nav are pretty and useful. The searches on Google are awesome. My phone and tablet are like having a PC with me everywhere I drive.
However, GMN has left me wanting in the actual navigation app. It scores third place behind Garmin and TomTom in routing and ETAs, features, voice options, and customizing. Don't get me wrong,it works, but it's potential has not yet been realized. This does not bother me as I know it is in BETA testing stages and improvements keep coming. Eventually it may be #1 without a doubt, but not today.
Many features it has already exceeds anything else available, and it has been my favorite phone nav app, but the Nav app needs fine tuning to make it better than the current version.
Google will do this no doubt, but today I will travel with my trusty Nuvi and GMN will be a novelty. Google searches will be highly valued, and the Nuvi will be giving the directions. The maps have been of excellent quality and accuracy. I just see to many poor choices with GMN so far.
IMHO.

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Jon_GWG

901 Posts

Posted - 19 déc. 2010 :  20:42:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree - GMN is a nice tool to have on my Droid, but as a full-fledge navigator, it's still not quite there. I was running some comparisons between it and CoPilot yesterday and there was usually more features I wish I could pull from CoPilot and put on GMN than vice-versa.
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